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Re: I need to stop reading the pet board
Posted by HollaGirl
Posted by Shellyesq
Posted by PrincessP
I think its better for me to help that person then to judge them.
Well said. 
Yes, but the response to the person who needs help is the same all the time.
Call no kill shelters
Call your vet
Call this one, call that one
I just find it very disheartening to read WHY some people give up their pets.
Scratching a wood floor?
Give me a break. What an easy way out.
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Re: I need to stop reading the pet board
Posted by HollaGirl
I just find it very disheartening to read WHY some people give up their pets.
Scratching a wood floor?
Give me a break. What an easy way out.
I couldn't agree more. It is very disheartening to read it.
But I guess I focus more on what is best for the animal, and to me that is to find the pet a good, loving home. And I think posting on the pet board does. In fact, some people posted that they actually adopted animals from this board. So anything that gets an animal a good and loving home is good in my book.
Also- according to the poster the post about scratching the wood floor was not on this board. Although of course it is disheartening.
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| Posted 11/6/06 4:15 PM |
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Re: I need to stop reading the pet board
Posted by HollaGirl
Posted by Shellyesq
Posted by PrincessP
I think its better for me to help that person then to judge them.
Well said.
Yes, but the response to the person who needs help is the same all the time.
Call no kill shelters
Call your vet
Call this one, call that one
I just find it very disheartening to read WHY some people give up their pets.
Scratching a wood floor?
Give me a break. What an easy way out.
Exactly.
Many people have offered help to those looking to give up their pets - I hope people continue to do so. If I find myself in a situation where I can help, I would.
However it's the reasoning behind it that is being called to task. The discarding of these sentient beings b/c they acted on impulse instead of responsibility, is what is bothersome.
Message edited 11/6/2006 4:18:21 PM.
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| Posted 11/6/06 4:17 PM |
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Re: I need to stop reading the pet board
Posted by Lolita4Life
Puppylove, not for nothing, but your argument make no sense! you say that its the fault of ppl who buy pets that "makes" the shelters full.....
not if you KEEP your pet!
its people who get rid of their pets that fill up the shelters! regaurdless where the dog came from
(you can adopt a dog from a shelter and still get rid of it)
Posted by Lolita4Life
puppylove.....
imo you cant compare buying from a pet shop to getting from a breeder, but if anything ppl who buy form a pet shop are often the ppl who give away their pet b/c they buy on im[ulse not realizing what work it is.
Posted by Lolita4Life
you're obviously ignorant on the subject of breeders vs. pet shops, so im not going to sit here and argue with you about it.
google the word "puppymill"
You are missing my point! I am not saying that breeders and pet shops are evil, and heartless as puppy mills are. I am saying that if all you people who care so so much about the dogs and cats and other abandoned pets care so so much, then before buying a thousand dollar dog from a wonderful petshop/breeder you would go to a shelter and adopt one who might not be alive tomorrow.
Ignorant? I do not live under a rock. Can't you have a discussion without name calling?? Just because my views are differnt that yours does not make my opinion ignorant.
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| Posted 11/6/06 4:44 PM |
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Re: I need to stop reading the pet board
Posted by Libragal07
Posted by BNL2005
Posted by HollaGirl
It just does not seem like people exhaust all options before giving a pet away.
i have to agree. i think people in general don't take pet ownership as seriously as they need to. its a lot of work to own a dog or cat.
double ditto..
I just read the whole thread and I agree. Its hard to read the pet board!
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| Posted 11/6/06 4:45 PM |
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Re: I need to stop reading the pet board
Posted by Eva Luna
Posted by puppylove
Posted by Lolita4Life
puppylove.....
imo you cant compare buying from a pet shop to getting from a breeder, but if anything ppl who buy form a pet shop are often the ppl who give away their pet b/c they buy on im[ulse not realizing what work it is.
Buying form a breeder is just as bad as getting them from a pet shop! People are buying the animal are they not??? They are not adopting fro m the breeder. Breeders overroduce dogs and cats for $$$ gain, not for love. Empty the shelters into loveing homes, then produce more. If people need to give up a pet it is there decision, let them be. It's probably hard already without people judgdging them.
Dude, you described a puppy/kitty mill. NOT A BREEDER!
A breeder only does so to better the standard of the breed and only breeds 2-3 times a year. Strictly out of love for the breed!
Like Jess said, google it. You'll learn something.
Read my 1st post. My point was that there are to many dogs and cats in this world without a home. Instead of buying an expensive pet, go resuce one. Where in my post did I say that pet shop and breeders are evil? I just mean that even though breeders may love the breed, there is a $$ issue there also.
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| Posted 11/6/06 4:51 PM |
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Re: I need to stop reading the pet board
Posted by BNL2005
Posted by HollaGirl
It just does not seem like people exhaust all options before giving a pet away.
i have to agree. i think people in general don't take pet ownership as seriously as they need to. its a lot of work to own a dog or cat.
Totally agree. I once stated my opinion about how irresponsible it was to get rid of a pet without exploring alternatives and got "attacked" by someone who shall remain "colorless"!!!
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| Posted 11/6/06 5:01 PM |
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Re: I need to stop reading the pet board
I am feel very strongly about this and if I hurt anyone's feelings I don't care.
My dogs and my cat are my children. I would never 'get rid of my children' under no circumstances.
When my cat was peeing on my husband's stuff, he wanted to get rid of him, but I said no way. We took on this responsibility and that is just the way it is.
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| Posted 11/6/06 5:10 PM |
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Re: I need to stop reading the pet board
puppylove... pet shops get all their dogs from puppymills and they ARE evil. backyard breeders are the ones who breed for $. reputbale breeders breed to better the line and continue the breed.
i know what you're saying about rescuing, believe me i do. but your argument seemed to blame ppl who buy from pet shops and breeders to be the problem rather than the people who dump their dogs off at shelters
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| Posted 11/6/06 5:10 PM |
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Re: I need to stop reading the pet board
I also agree I feel very strongly about this. My mom used to have a poodle when My sister and I were little someone abused the dog and no one wanted her so My mom took her in and that was her baby. Also My Brother in law where he was working they found a puppy and they said they were going to kill her because no one wanted her because she was abused so He took her home and she was a really good dog she was like my dog she died 2 years ago she was a german shepard mix. So My point is if you dont want a pet Dont buy one.
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| Posted 11/6/06 5:46 PM |
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Re: I need to stop reading the pet board
Posted by puppylove
Posted by Eva Luna
Posted by puppylove
Posted by Lolita4Life
puppylove.....
imo you cant compare buying from a pet shop to getting from a breeder, but if anything ppl who buy form a pet shop are often the ppl who give away their pet b/c they buy on im[ulse not realizing what work it is.
Buying form a breeder is just as bad as getting them from a pet shop! People are buying the animal are they not??? They are not adopting fro m the breeder. Breeders overroduce dogs and cats for $$$ gain, not for love. Empty the shelters into loveing homes, then produce more. If people need to give up a pet it is there decision, let them be. It's probably hard already without people judgdging them.
Dude, you described a puppy/kitty mill. NOT A BREEDER!
A breeder only does so to better the standard of the breed and only breeds 2-3 times a year. Strictly out of love for the breed!
Like Jess said, google it. You'll learn something.
Read my 1st post. My point was that there are to many dogs and cats in this world without a home. Instead of buying an expensive pet, go resuce one. Where in my post did I say that pet shop and breeders are evil? I just mean that even though breeders may love the breed, there is a $$ issue there also.
Ok...well my parents are breeders and I can tell you that anyone that takes breeding seriously completely 100% loves their dogs. My parents spend their summers going to dog shows and getting "the boys" out there. If you ever met a real dog breeder would even probably think it's a little freaky how much they love their animals. If EVERYONE bought from breeders then there would be no issues with the animal and therefore noone would give them up for adoption.
For example, one of my dogs is not true to breed. He is very active when in fact the breed is supposed to be more relaxed. So my mom decided not to pursue studding him because it wasn't good for the breed. He is a beautiful dog, a champion in fact. My mother's not out to make a quick buck.
Breeders invest an incredible amount of money into these dogs as well. You don't make money from breeding animals unless it's a puppy mill. Real breeders just enjoy their dogs.
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| Posted 11/6/06 5:59 PM |
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Re: I need to stop reading the pet board
I feel the same way in a sense... I adopted my dog from a girl who said she couldn't keep her anymore since she moved in w/ her bf and her bf's dog was attacking Katie... She had her liver punctured, and her eye was scratched.
I honestly don't know how she could have given Katie up, but she felt that that was the best thing to do for her pet, and she found a home good home for her. We love the little girl, and she's flourished since she's moved in with us.
My dad has a Golden Retriever that he rescued. Cody was his previous familie's baby for 2 years... until they had a baby, then he was locked in the basement and let out once a day to go outside. After about a year or two they finally brought him to the rescue.
Was what they did to Cody right? Absolutely not, but it would have been so much worse to keep him locked in the basement for 23 hours a day.
In both of the situations you could "they should have" until you're blue in the face, but they did what they felt was best for them in their situation, and both dogs are in much better situations than they were in before.
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Re: I need to stop reading the pet board
I would never post on here if god forbid I had to give Murphy up for some crazy reason, too much controversy.
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| Posted 11/6/06 7:15 PM |
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Re: I need to stop reading the pet board
Posted by Lolita4Life
To ME....
allergies is one thing
aggressive behaviour is one thing
if you "dont have the time anymore"
or are "having a baby" or "dh doesnt like my pet" or anything of the sort, to me THAT is what i cant tolerate. and it seems so commen these days.... on these boards
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Re: I need to stop reading the pet board
Posted by Redhead
Posted by Lolita4Life
To ME....
allergies is one thing
aggressive behaviour is one thing
if you "dont have the time anymore"
or are "having a baby" or "dh doesnt like my pet" or anything of the sort, to me THAT is what i cant tolerate. and it seems so commen these days.... on these boards
WORD!
Oh man, it breaks my heart to hear stories where people "dont have the time" anymore... its an animal not an old pair of shoes that are out of style. 
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| Posted 11/6/06 7:28 PM |
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Re: I need to stop reading the pet board
Sorry, but I still say that people give up WAY too easily when it comes to a pet. My dogs are my BABIES. I have had them for 4, and 5 years. Even if one of them bit my child, I would have someone in my family either take the dog, or do whatever measures it took to make sure my dog did not sit in a shelter, or go to a strangers home.
I could NEVER EVER give Dino or Louie up, no matter what. Maybe I am nuts.
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| Posted 11/6/06 7:29 PM |
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Re: I need to stop reading the pet board
Posted by MrsDiamondgrlie
Posted by Redhead
Posted by Lolita4Life
To ME....
allergies is one thing
aggressive behaviour is one thing
if you "dont have the time anymore"
or are "having a baby" or "dh doesnt like my pet" or anything of the sort, to me THAT is what i cant tolerate. and it seems so commen these days.... on these boards
WORD!
Oh man, it breaks my heart to hear stories where people "dont have the time" anymore... its an animal not an old pair of shoes that are out of style.
doesn't break my heart
Makes me want go kick someone's arse though
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Re: I need to stop reading the pet board
Posted by Redhead
Posted by MrsDiamondgrlie
Posted by Redhead
Posted by Lolita4Life
To ME....
allergies is one thing
aggressive behaviour is one thing
if you "dont have the time anymore"
or are "having a baby" or "dh doesnt like my pet" or anything of the sort, to me THAT is what i cant tolerate. and it seems so commen these days.... on these boards
WORD!
Oh man, it breaks my heart to hear stories where people "dont have the time" anymore... its an animal not an old pair of shoes that are out of style.
doesn't break my heart
Makes me want go kick someone's arse though
I guess I first think of the little pet wondering what happened.  But as a 2nd thought, I do want to kick butt too.
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Re: I need to stop reading the pet board
Posted by MrsDiamondgrlie
I would never post on here if god forbid I had to give Murphy up for some crazy reason, too much controversy.
You could just give him to me! Controversy averted!
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| Posted 11/6/06 7:46 PM |
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Re: I need to stop reading the pet board
I have 2 dogs and I could not even imagine having to give them up. It would have to be truly extenuating circumstances, like life or death.
I do agree with many of the other posters, some people should not be pet owners.
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| Posted 11/6/06 7:48 PM |
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Re: I need to stop reading the pet board
OK enough! I am tired of being the one that everyone is jumping on for defending some random post. So far I have been told I am ignorant and that I need an education.
This is my point, plain and simple:
People who don't want to see any more animals killed because they have been abandoned should ADOPT them from a shelter before they are killed. SAVE the ones that need to be saved first THEN buy them. Why keep breeding dogs when there are already too many as it is?
I am not saying that dog breeders are evil, I am not saying all petshops are evil, some yes, but not all. I am not saying breeders do not love their animal. And yes puppymills are evil. And yes I am fully aware of the cruel conditions that go on in the mills.
I just think that sometimes various circumstances make it impossible for people to keep a pet, these people do not need to be treated as if they are wrong. At least they are trying to find a good home for the animals, rather than letting them out on the street. It it wonderful that all of you see your pets as children, and one of the family, etc. But for some people, the role of taking care of a pet comes with too much responsibilty, that they were not aware of. I'm sure that they feel very bad for having to do this to the pet.
I am truly sorry to anyone that I offended with any of my posts related to this topic.
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Re: I need to stop reading the pet board
Posted by puppylove
Yes it is too bad that some people feel there is no other option than to give away a pet. I am the proud owner of many pets and could never imagine giving any of them away. I have know a few people who had to give up pets for many reasons: allergies, behavoiral problems etc. It does not mean that they don't love the animal. An I don't think any less of them.
HOWEVER: I think that if you do have to give your pet away, isn't it better that these people come to this site and look for good advice on where they can take the pet (such as no-kill shelters) or even if one of us would be willing to adopt and or pass the word on about the up-for-adoption pet. I feel that this is much better than just letting them out on the side of the road as MANY people do.
For all you people who get so offended by people who have to give a pet up for adoption....how many of you bought your pets from a pet store or a breeder for hundreds or even thousands of dollars??? Just because it HAD to be a Purebreed or one of those silly "pure-breed mutts", like snoodles or what ever they are called????
If you are offended by people giving their pets up for adoption and you bought your dog or cat then who is worse? You could have adopted a dog or cat in need for free. Buying pets is what makes shelters full, becuase not enough people are willing to adopt.
I love my pets, but there are far more serious problems in the world than people who decide that they can no longer take care of their pets! And I do not think that these people should be chastised on this site, when they come looking for good advice on what to do.
We are here to help, if you feel bad for these pets then help the original poster find a good home for the pets. I'm sure that the poster had their reasons and the reasons are not for us to judge.
For those of you who did adopt a pet, this is not meant towards you.
THis is all JMO, I do not mean to offend anyone. I jst feel that sometimes people can be very unfair to people about these tyopes of issues.
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Re: I need to stop reading the pet board
Posted by McSullivan
I love my dog. I couldn't imagine my life if I had given him away - and I do not think I ever would.
That said, I've noticed that passing very harsh judgment on people has become the norm (or perhaps it is just fashionable because it is considered edgy and "honest").
You have no idea what it's like in someone else's shoes - you cannot know what it's like to live someone else's life.
Giving a pet away cannot be an easy decision. I do not think berating someone because he or she has made that decision is going to talk them out of it. Suggestions and recommendations should be the first course of action (re-action). Eye-rolling and head-banging takes the conversation/thread down a negative path and prevents open discourse. Also, it impedes any kind of aid to the person/animal in distress.
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Re: I need to stop reading the pet board
Posted by Porrruss
Posted by McSullivan
I love my dog. I couldn't imagine my life if I had given him away - and I do not think I ever would.
That said, I've noticed that passing very harsh judgment on people has become the norm (or perhaps it is just fashionable because it is considered edgy and "honest").
You have no idea what it's like in someone else's shoes - you cannot know what it's like to live someone else's life.
Giving a pet away cannot be an easy decision. I do not think berating someone because he or she has made that decision is going to talk them out of it. Suggestions and recommendations should be the first course of action (re-action). Eye-rolling and head-banging takes the conversation/thread down a negative path and prevents open discourse. Also, it impedes any kind of aid to the person/animal in distress.
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Thank you both so so much. This is exaclty the point that I am trying to make. We should all be here to help, not judge people unfairly. We DO NOT know what it is to live in another person shoes.
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Re: I need to stop reading the pet board
I am so against giving up a pet and I am glad that neither myself nor my husband had to do that. But as someone with a very severe cat allergy, I want to point out that for some people there is no "just getting used to it." I did the allergist thing for years and even made sure I spoke to more than one allergist. My cat allergy is so severe that avoidance is the only real solution for me. They tried treating me with injections, but that was only slowing down my treatment for some of my lesser allergies. The doctors felt it was more important for me to get the treatment that I needed for the things that I could not avoid, like pollen, things that are everywhere. I was warned that for some people, each exposure to the thing that causes the allergy makes it WORSE and is more and more dangerous to the allergy sufferer. Until you have felt your own throat closing up, felt like you wanted to rip your eyes out because they were swollen shut, etc, you cannot tell someone to just get used to an allergy. And an allergy does not end just because the cat is "not in the room."
That being said, I do think that people need to explore all options and not get rid of a pet lightly. When I was dating, I told men that I cannot live with cats and that there would be no hard feelings if they had to end the relationship over it. People love their cats like I love my dog. However, that does not mean that I will EVER live with a cat in my home.
My friend had to give her cat to her mother. Her husband is highly allergic but was willing to give the cat thing a try to see if he could get used to it. His heightened allergies lead to chronic bronchitis. I'm glad that her cat is with her mother, not some stranger, and I am also glad that her husband isn't suffering anymore.
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