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Eva Luna
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Re: I need to stop reading the pet board
Posted by Lolita4Life
Puppylove, not for nothing, but your argument make no sense! you say that its the fault of ppl who buy pets that "makes" the shelters full.....
not if you KEEP your pet!
its people who get rid of their pets that fill up the shelters! regaurdless where the dog came from
(you can adopt a dog from a shelter and still get rid of it)
And yes, there's a difference between seeing a cute puppy or kitten on a pet shop window and buying just because than doing research on the breed, time you'll need to care for your pet and looking for a rescue or looking at breeders near you.
Bottom line, if the pet is kept in its forever home (as they all should) there won't be any overpopulation at shelter issues.
We should all be so lucky to live in a world where strays are the only shelter animals...although, where do the strays come from? They can't all be runaways.
What some people do is just beyond sad. 
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Eva Luna
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Re: I need to stop reading the pet board
Posted by puppylove
Posted by Lolita4Life
puppylove.....
imo you cant compare buying from a pet shop to getting from a breeder, but if anything ppl who buy form a pet shop are often the ppl who give away their pet b/c they buy on im[ulse not realizing what work it is.
Buying form a breeder is just as bad as getting them from a pet shop! People are buying the animal are they not??? They are not adopting fro m the breeder. Breeders overroduce dogs and cats for $$$ gain, not for love. Empty the shelters into loveing homes, then produce more. If people need to give up a pet it is there decision, let them be. It's probably hard already without people judgdging them.
Dude, you described a puppy/kitty mill. NOT A BREEDER!
A breeder only does so to better the standard of the breed and only breeds 2-3 times a year. Strictly out of love for the breed!
Like Jess said, google it. You'll learn something.
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Jesaroo
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Re: I need to stop reading the pet board
well said sasha
also, spaying and nuetering helps too!
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| Posted 11/6/06 2:14 PM |
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leighdvm
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Re: I need to stop reading the pet board
When I see those posts, I get sick to my stomach.....When you get a pet, it is a commitment of upwards of 20 years. When I was apartment hunting, I only looked at apartments that would take my cats (they are out there!). I would never, ever give them up because I had to move, or because I was pregnant. They are part of my family and I love them so much! My DH loves them too!
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| Posted 11/6/06 2:26 PM |
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Re: I need to stop reading the pet board
I created a spinoff thread to this one with a poll to ask how many adopt versus buy. Within 5 minutes, it was moved to the Pets board. But this thread continues on in NFR. 
If anyone wants to vote, the thread is in Pets. 
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| Posted 11/6/06 2:37 PM |
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~Colleen~
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Re: I need to stop reading the pet board
When you make the decision to adopt, rescue or purchase a pet you need to take on the responsibility that comes with it, to care for and nurture this animal.
They are not disposable - they are living beings and they deserve to be cared for as such.
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| Posted 11/6/06 2:51 PM |
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Jesaroo
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Re: I need to stop reading the pet board
Posted by Colleen9304
When you make the decision to adopt, rescue or purchase a pet you need to take on the responsibility that comes with it, to care for and nurture this animal.
They are not disposable - they are living beings and they deserve to be cared for as such.
well said colleen
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PrincessP
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Re: I need to stop reading the pet board
Posted by Lolita4Life
Posted by Colleen9304
When you make the decision to adopt, rescue or purchase a pet you need to take on the responsibility that comes with it, to care for and nurture this animal.
They are not disposable - they are living beings and they deserve to be cared for as such.
well said colleen
In all fairness...do you both feel that there is NEVER a circumstance where an animal would be better placed with a family that could give a better situation to an animal then its current situation? It just worries me that being hard on people and telling them to keep an animal that they've already decided they cant care for will be worse then having them find good homes. Some of those people that havent yet realized they cant care for their animals have been in the newspaper for neglect which is worse IMO.
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Re: I need to stop reading the pet board
Posted by PrincessP
It just worries me that being hard on people and telling them to keep an animal that they've already decided they cant care for will be worse then having them find good homes. Some of those people that havent yet realized they cant care for their animals have been in the newspaper for neglect which is worse IMO.
That is exactly what I am concerned about. I think its better for people to post w/o getting flamed and we work together to find these pets a home- rather than the alternative which may be abandonment, neglect or possibly death at a shelter.
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Re: I need to stop reading the pet board
Posted by PrincessP
Posted by Lolita4Life
Posted by Colleen9304
When you make the decision to adopt, rescue or purchase a pet you need to take on the responsibility that comes with it, to care for and nurture this animal.
They are not disposable - they are living beings and they deserve to be cared for as such.
well said colleen
In all fairness...do you both feel that there is NEVER a circumstance where an animal would be better placed with a family that could give a better situation to an animal then its current situation? It just worries me that being hard on people and telling them to keep an animal that they've already decided they cant care for will be worse then having them find good homes. Some of those people that havent yet realized they cant care for their animals have been in the newspaper for neglect which is worse IMO.
I think it isn't so much that a petowner may need to give up their pet or that it may be better for the pet in the long run. It's the sheer irresponsibility and disregard that these petowner have towards living, feeling, breathing beings. Giving up a pet because they may scratch your floor is a ridiculous reason. I definitely believe that those pets would be better off somewhere else because I don't think someone that thinks like that deserves a houseplant.
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| Posted 11/6/06 3:24 PM |
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Re: I need to stop reading the pet board
Posted by PrincessP
In all fairness...do you both feel that there is NEVER a circumstance where an animal would be better placed with a family that could give a better situation to an animal then its current situation? It just worries me that being hard on people and telling them to keep an animal that they've already decided they cant care for will be worse then having them find good homes. Some of those people that havent yet realized they cant care for their animals have been in the newspaper for neglect which is worse IMO.
The people in the newspapers for "neglect" and abuse are not the same people who wake up and decide they can't care for the animal they committed to care for. Those people are effed in the head.
I don't think anyone should commit to care for an animal half-heartedly. They need to sit down and think long and hard before making such a committment - much like they would when they think about having a child or purchasing a house. All are lifetime committments.
I think anyone who decides they can't care for a living being b/c the animal is "annoying" or "bothersome" or b/c their spouse no longer cares for them - should look long and hard at themself.
As I said before, an animal is a living, breathing being - it is not junk mail or worn clothing. It deserves to be cared for and loved like any other being we welcome into our life.
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| Posted 11/6/06 3:27 PM |
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Re: I need to stop reading the pet board
I love my dog. I couldn't imagine my life if I had given him away - and I do not think I ever would.
That said, I've noticed that passing very harsh judgment on people has become the norm (or perhaps it is just fashionable because it is considered edgy and "honest").
You have no idea what it's like in someone else's shoes - you cannot know what it's like to live someone else's life.
Giving a pet away cannot be an easy decision. I do not think berating someone because he or she has made that decision is going to talk them out of it. Suggestions and recommendations should be the first course of action (re-action). Eye-rolling and head-banging takes the conversation/thread down a negative path and prevents open discourse. Also, it impedes any kind of aid to the person/animal in distress.
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CookiePuss
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Re: I need to stop reading the pet board
Posted by Colleen9304
The people in the newspapers for "neglect" and abuse are not the same people who wake up and decide they can't care for the animal they committed to care for. Those people are effed in the head.
I don't think anyone should commit to care for an animal half-heartedly. They need to sit down and think long and hard before making such a committment - much like they would when they think about having a child or purchasing a house. All are lifetime committments.
I think anyone who decides they can't care for a living being b/c the animal is "annoying" or "bothersome" or b/c their spouse no longer cares for them - should look long and hard at themself.
As I said before, an animal is a living, breathing being - it is not junk mail or worn clothing. It deserves to be cared for and loved like any other being we welcome into our life.
You said it best...
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evenedan
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Re: I need to stop reading the pet board
Posted by Shellyesq
Posted by PrincessP
It just worries me that being hard on people and telling them to keep an animal that they've already decided they cant care for will be worse then having them find good homes. Some of those people that haven't yet realized they cant care for their animals have been in the newspaper for neglect which is worse IMO.
That is exactly what I am concerned about. I think its better for people to post w/o getting flamed and we work together to find these pets a home- rather than the alternative which may be abandonment, neglect or possibly death at a shelter.
Some of these people need to be flamed because it's because of people like this that there are so many displaced adult animals. They get the dog and down the line decide for various reasons they can't keep it or don't want it and it's especially bad when they decide they can't keep it because it wasn't trained properly—which is their own fault. It's cruel and very unfair to the animal, not to mention stressful. Of course there are legitimate reasons why some animals need new homes (MrsErod's situation is a perfect example of that), but there are too many people who view their animal as more of an accessory than a 15-year commitment. Animal shelters receive so many pets back because people decide after a few years that they don't really want a dog. And if some people on here speak out against that behavior, well then maybe some others will think a little harder about the commitment involved with having a pet before going out and getting one.
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Re: I need to stop reading the pet board
Posted by evenedan
Some of these people need to be flamed because it's because of people like this that there are so many displaced adult animals. They get the dog and down the line decide for various reasons they can't keep it or don't want it and it's especially bad when they decide they can't keep it because it wasn't trained properly—which is their own fault. It's cruel and very unfair to the animal, not to mention stressful. Of course there are legitimate reasons why some animals need new homes (MrsErod's situation is a perfect example of that), but there are too many people who view their animal as more of an accessory and than a 15-year commitment. Animal shelters receive so many pets back because people decide after a few years that they don't really want a dog. And if some people on here speak out against that behavior, well then maybe some others will think a little harder about the commitment involved with having a pet before going out and getting one.
Well said!
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HollaGirl
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Re: I need to stop reading the pet board
And the worst is usually right after Christmas
Mommy buys little Jimmy a dog. Spot pees on the floor. Mommy and Daddy decide they can't have something peeing in their house, and to the shelter we go!
Sickening.
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| Posted 11/6/06 3:42 PM |
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Shelly
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Re: I need to stop reading the pet board
Posted by evenedan
Some of these people need to be flamed because it's because of people like this that there are so many displaced adult animals. They get the dog and down the line decide for various reasons they can't keep it or don't want it and it's especially bad when they decide they can't keep it because it wasn't trained properly—which is their own fault. It's cruel and very unfair to the animal, not to mention stressful. Of course there are legitimate reasons why some animals need new homes (MrsErod's situation is a perfect example of that), but there are too many people who view their animal as more of an accessory and than a 15-year commitment. Animal shelters receive so many pets back because people decide after a few years that they don't really want a dog. And if some people on here speak out against that behavior, well then maybe some others will think a little harder about the commitment involved with having a pet before going out and getting one.
OK- so these people get flamed. But what happens to pets? That is my concern. I would rather see them in a safe loving home than in a home where they are neglected, or worse- abused or abandoned.
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| Posted 11/6/06 3:43 PM |
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Re: I need to stop reading the pet board
Posted by HollaGirl
And the worst is usually right after Christmas
Mommy buys little Jimmy a dog. Spot pees on the floor. Mommy and Daddy decide they can't have something peeing in their house, and to the shelter we go!
Sickening.
exactly.
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Jesaroo
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Re: I need to stop reading the pet board
yep, after christmas, valentines day and movies starring certain breeds (i.e. 101 Dalmations) that many dogs end up in shelters
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Jesaroo
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Re: I need to stop reading the pet board
Posted by Shellyesq
Posted by evenedan
Some of these people need to be flamed because it's because of people like this that there are so many displaced adult animals. They get the dog and down the line decide for various reasons they can't keep it or don't want it and it's especially bad when they decide they can't keep it because it wasn't trained properly—which is their own fault. It's cruel and very unfair to the animal, not to mention stressful. Of course there are legitimate reasons why some animals need new homes (MrsErod's situation is a perfect example of that), but there are too many people who view their animal as more of an accessory and than a 15-year commitment. Animal shelters receive so many pets back because people decide after a few years that they don't really want a dog. And if some people on here speak out against that behavior, well then maybe some others will think a little harder about the commitment involved with having a pet before going out and getting one.
OK- so these people get flamed. But what happens to pets? That is my concern. I would rather see them in a safe loving home than in a home where they are neglected, or worse- abused or abandoned.
evndan, i agree
shelley, i see what youre saying. of course we want what is in the pets best interest, but the ppl still need to get flamed so they can wake up and see the big picture.. and hopefully never get another animal again until they can make a true commitment to it.
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Re: I need to stop reading the pet board
Posted by Colleen9304
Posted by evenedan
Some of these people need to be flamed because it's because of people like this that there are so many displaced adult animals. They get the dog and down the line decide for various reasons they can't keep it or don't want it and it's especially bad when they decide they can't keep it because it wasn't trained properly—which is their own fault. It's cruel and very unfair to the animal, not to mention stressful. Of course there are legitimate reasons why some animals need new homes (MrsErod's situation is a perfect example of that), but there are too many people who view their animal as more of an accessory and than a 15-year commitment. Animal shelters receive so many pets back because people decide after a few years that they don't really want a dog. And if some people on here speak out against that behavior, well then maybe some others will think a little harder about the commitment involved with having a pet before going out and getting one.
Well said!
Honestly, while I agree that people really need to think long and hard before they get a pet, I don't think berating people on here will make anyone change thier ways. I don't think many of these people went into pet ownership thinking - "Oh well, if I don't like it, I'll just dump it." More then likely it wasn't all they expected it to be - OR, circumstances they never envisioned came up (yes, it is possible that they did think giving it up would be no big deal, but I think by and large, that was probably not the case.)
But now, instead of using a resource like this board to try and find a good home, for fear of being attacked, they may just give up and place it in a shelter. That is a shame.
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Re: I need to stop reading the pet board
and my point gets proven over and over and over again
amazing
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Re: I need to stop reading the pet board
Posted by oneday
Posted by Colleen9304
Posted by evenedan
Some of these people need to be flamed because it's because of people like this that there are so many displaced adult animals. They get the dog and down the line decide for various reasons they can't keep it or don't want it and it's especially bad when they decide they can't keep it because it wasn't trained properly—which is their own fault. It's cruel and very unfair to the animal, not to mention stressful. Of course there are legitimate reasons why some animals need new homes (MrsErod's situation is a perfect example of that), but there are too many people who view their animal as more of an accessory and than a 15-year commitment. Animal shelters receive so many pets back because people decide after a few years that they don't really want a dog. And if some people on here speak out against that behavior, well then maybe some others will think a little harder about the commitment involved with having a pet before going out and getting one.
Well said!
Honestly, while I agree that people really need to think long and hard before they get a pet, I don't think berating people on here will make anyone change thier ways. I don't think many of these people went into pet ownership thinking - "Oh well, if I don't like it, I'll just dump it." More then likely it wasn't all they expected it to be - OR, circumstances they never envisioned came up (yes, it is possible that they did think giving it up would be no big deal, but I think by and large, that was probably not the case.)
But now, instead of using a resource like this board to try and find a good home, for fear of being attacked, they may just give up and place it in a shelter. That is a shame.
You are stating exactly how I am feeling while reading this thread. Its great that everyone has their own opinions but in the end...these people want a good home for their pets. So if asking to find a good home is a bad thing...then I dont get it. But in the end like I said earlier...even though some people have opposing positions there are still people that are going to help them find a good home. In all honesty, if I knew of someone who would take a dog that I read a posting today from the pet board...I would contact that person. I would hate for that dog to be brought to a shelter. I think its better for me to help that person then to judge them.
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Shelly
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Re: I need to stop reading the pet board
Posted by PrincessP
I think its better for me to help that person then to judge them.
Well said.
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HollaGirl
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Re: I need to stop reading the pet board
Posted by Shellyesq
Posted by PrincessP
I think its better for me to help that person then to judge them.
Well said.
Yes, but the response to the person who needs help is the same all the time.
Call no kill shelters
Call your vet
Call this one, call that one
I just find it very disheartening to read WHY some people give up their pets.
Scratching a wood floor?
Give me a break. What an easy way out.
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