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Re: Is LIVE kidding me?!?!? Aryan babies
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Am I the only one who doesn't see the big deal? Last year, there was tons of diversity in the finalists. This year there wasn't. Big deal. I think calling them Aryan babies is a bit much.
No, you're not the only one. I kind of take offense by being called "Aryan". All 3 of us, me, DH, and DD are blonde and blue eyed.
Us too, we're all fair-haired and light-eyes over here too. Not a fan of the term in this context really either.
Add me to the offended list as well.
They have a whole list of babies now (in the gallery) is anyone from here on there?
Yeah, honestly, what is the big deal?
I really think the OPs use of the word "aryan" is not right. That isn't a word that should be used lightly. It is one thing to say that you have a bunch of fair skinned babies, but I think aryan is not a good word.
I am glad I did not enter DS then. Apparently he is an Aryan too. Rather ironical term since DS happened to be blond and blue eye. Although interesting to call him that since his daddy is Jewish and his mommy is French.
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Posted 2/22/08 9:38 PM |
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Re: Is LIVE kidding me?!?!? Aryan babies
I do think they all look alike but I think they all knew ahead of time what type of child they were looking for.
But Aryan is just an awful word to use.
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Re: Is LIVE kidding me?!?!? Aryan babies
The whole idea of someone judging my childs beauty is offensive to me.
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Posted 2/22/08 10:10 PM |
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Re: Is LIVE kidding me?!?!? Aryan babies
Posted by prncss
Am I the only one who doesn't see the big deal? Last year, there was tons of diversity in the finalists. This year there wasn't. Big deal. I think calling them Aryan babies is a bit much.
I agree! Who cares!
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Posted 2/22/08 10:16 PM |
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juanvi
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Re: Is LIVE kidding me?!?!? Aryan babies
Posted by johnsae
Well, I was going to say that it's nice that they don't have to be politically correct...but then I opened the link...not only do the kids all look alike, but they are not even that cute!
ITA I feel kinda bad saying this but especially that second girl. Ella's a beauty!
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Posted 2/22/08 10:18 PM |
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PrincessP
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Re: Is LIVE kidding me?!?!? Aryan babies
I dont agree with the posters choice of words...However, I do think its a big deal...if they wanted a certain look, then come out and say it...dont waste everyones time with senseless contests.
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Posted 2/22/08 10:27 PM |
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Re: Is LIVE kidding me?!?!? Aryan babies
Posted by PrincessP
I dont agree with the posters choice of words...However, I do think its a big deal...if they wanted a certain look, then come out and say it...dont waste everyones time with senseless contests.
Again, the top ten were pretty diverse.
Then America voted on the top 5. So you can't really blame the show.
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Posted 2/22/08 10:29 PM |
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Re: Is LIVE kidding me?!?!? Aryan babies
Posted by BlessedMommy
The whole idea of someone judging my childs beauty is offensive to me.
I do too!!!
I also find the word Aryan VERY OFFENSIVE/
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Posted 2/22/08 10:41 PM |
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Re: Is LIVE kidding me?!?!? Aryan babies
I do not find the word Aryan to be offensive. To me it is just an easy one word description for a certain type of look. I don't believe that there is any insult intended to people who have that look. If I described someone as looking that way, I would not mean to be commenting about that person's views or attitude. I didn't realize how many people find it offensive.
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Posted 2/22/08 10:56 PM |
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Re: Is LIVE kidding me?!?!? Aryan babies
Posted by Kerie-is-so-very
I do not find the word Aryan to be offensive. To me it is just an easy one word description for a certain type of look. I don't believe that there is any insult intended to people who have that look. If I described someone as looking that way, I would not mean to be commenting about that person's views or attitude. I didn't realize how many people find it offensive.
I never really thought about it, but what do you associate the word aryan with? I associate it with Hitler. When I think of it like that, it certainly is not a word with a positive connotation.
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Posted 2/22/08 11:05 PM |
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Re: Is LIVE kidding me?!?!? Aryan babies
Posted by InShock
Posted by Kerie-is-so-very
I do not find the word Aryan to be offensive. To me it is just an easy one word description for a certain type of look. I don't believe that there is any insult intended to people who have that look. If I described someone as looking that way, I would not mean to be commenting about that person's views or attitude. I didn't realize how many people find it offensive.
I never really thought about it, but what do you associate the word aryan with? I associate it with Hitler. When I think of it like that, it certainly is not a word with a positive connotation.
Thats EXACTLY what most people will associate the word with.
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Posted 2/22/08 11:06 PM |
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Re: Is LIVE kidding me?!?!? Aryan babies
Posted by PrincessP
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I do not find the word Aryan to be offensive. To me it is just an easy one word description for a certain type of look. I don't believe that there is any insult intended to people who have that look. If I described someone as looking that way, I would not mean to be commenting about that person's views or attitude. I didn't realize how many people find it offensive.
I never really thought about it, but what do you associate the word aryan with? I associate it with Hitler. When I think of it like that, it certainly is not a word with a positive connotation.
Thats EXACTLY what most people will associate the word with.
I do not believe that the OP intended for her use of this word to conjure up terrible images.
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Posted 2/22/08 11:21 PM |
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Posted 2/22/08 11:24 PM |
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Re: Is LIVE kidding me?!?!? Aryan babies
Posted by sweetie
This has no relevance to this thread but did anyone notice that there are 13 Ava's in the gallery!! That's crazy!
Carry on.... Yeah BUT not the 3 BEAUTIFUL Ava's from LIF
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Posted 2/22/08 11:27 PM |
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Re: Is LIVE kidding me?!?!? Aryan babies
Well then my daughter, blonde and blue eyed must be Aryan also! It's not really a great thing to say...
I think all of these children are beautiful and so is the winner. Just because they resemble eachother in a similar way doesn't mean LIVE has any 'secret agenda'... it's a contest for children. All children are beautiful in my eyes. I am happy for them and their families!!
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Posted 2/22/08 11:37 PM |
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Re: Is LIVE kidding me?!?!? Aryan babies
Posted by BlessedMommy
The whole idea of someone judging my childs beauty is offensive to me.
Its sad to sad but once you enter these contests kids are judged harshly. When DD#1 modeled our Agent told us to grow tough skin. She lost out on a job and I was miffed cause they were all gushing how cute she was-well the agent called and told me she didnt get it because they were looking for a "not so attractive child"
To TOP I get what you mean-the term Aryan but I think alot of people are reading into it since the definition does have a negative connotation. Ella I think is adorable but sorry some of the finalists are blown away by other babies that entered.
Also just becuase America votes it does not mean that its the child(Children) that win. I have friends in the marketing industry and there's alot people dont know about contests like these.
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Re: Is LIVE kidding me?!?!? Aryan babies
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Posted by johnsae
Well, I was going to say that it's nice that they don't have to be politically correct...but then I opened the link...not only do the kids all look alike, but they are not even that cute!
ITA I feel kinda bad saying this but especially that second girl. Ella's a beauty!
OMG I was totally going to write that the 2nd little girl is not especially beautiful-at least to me.
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Posted 2/23/08 4:35 AM |
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Re: Is LIVE kidding me?!?!? Aryan babies
Posted by Kerie-is-so-very
I do not find the word Aryan to be offensive. To me it is just an easy one word description for a certain type of look. I don't believe that there is any insult intended to people who have that look. If I described someone as looking that way, I would not mean to be commenting about that person's views or attitude. I didn't realize how many people find it offensive.
Well IMO, there are A LOT of "easy words" to describe a "certain type of look" and I can tell you that if ANY of those "other" words were mentioned to describe someone else, there would be some SERIOUS repercussions for using those words. So yes, it's VERY offensive to me and my child and my husband, as blonde haired, blue eyed people to be called "aryan".
And for the record, to clarify what I just said - I DO NOT believe in "type casting" ANY person for what they look like by using a certain "word".
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Re: Is LIVE kidding me?!?!? Aryan babies
Yup, i said that a few days ago. But if you look at kellys kids in real life, they look nothing like that.
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Posted 2/23/08 7:30 AM |
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Re: Is LIVE kidding me?!?!? Aryan babies
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I do not find the word Aryan to be offensive. To me it is just an easy one word description for a certain type of look. I don't believe that there is any insult intended to people who have that look. If I described someone as looking that way, I would not mean to be commenting about that person's views or attitude. I didn't realize how many people find it offensive.
I never really thought about it, but what do you associate the word aryan with? I associate it with Hitler. When I think of it like that, it certainly is not a word with a positive connotation.
Thats EXACTLY what most people will associate the word with.
I do not believe that the OP intended for her use of this word to conjure up terrible images.
totally agree. maybe not the best choice of words, but i believe that the OP was using it to describe a certain look, and not to associate that look with anything bad. i really don't think flaming is in order here... jmo
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Re: Is LIVE kidding me?!?!? Aryan babies
Aryan is an English word derived from the Sanskrit "Arya" meaning "noble" or "honorable".[1][2] The Avestan cognate of the Sanskrit term is "Airya" and the Old Persian equivalent is "Ariya." It is widely held to have been used as an ethnic self-designation of the Proto-Indo-Iranians. Since, in the 19th century, the Indo-Iranians were the most ancient known speakers of Indo-European languages, the word Aryan was adopted to refer not only to the Indo-Iranian people, but also to Indo-European speakers as a whole.
Of the top 20 contemporary languages in terms of native speakers according to SIL Ethnologue, 12 are Indo-European: Spanish, English, Hindi, Portuguese, Bengali, Russian, German, Marathi, French, Italian, Punjabi and Urdu, accounting for over 1.6 billion native speakers.
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Re: Is LIVE kidding me?!?!? Aryan babies
Posted by pmpkn087
Aryan is an English word derived from the Sanskrit "Arya" meaning "noble" or "honorable".[1][2] The Avestan cognate of the Sanskrit term is "Airya" and the Old Persian equivalent is "Ariya." It is widely held to have been used as an ethnic self-designation of the Proto-Indo-Iranians. Since, in the 19th century, the Indo-Iranians were the most ancient known speakers of Indo-European languages, the word Aryan was adopted to refer not only to the Indo-Iranian people, but also to Indo-European speakers as a whole.
Of the top 20 contemporary languages in terms of native speakers according to SIL Ethnologue, 12 are Indo-European: Spanish, English, Hindi, Portuguese, Bengali, Russian, German, Marathi, French, Italian, Punjabi and Urdu, accounting for over 1.6 billion native speakers.
I saw this on Wikipedia as well- but lets be honest. No one will likely spout off the "true meaning" behind the word. I (and MOST others) attribute this word to negative feelings- Hitler love of an Aryan race, and the "Aryan Nation" (a white supremist group. It became something negative through consequence.
I was a towhead (another term for blond that could have been used) with blue eyes. My DD is also a fair skinned, blue-eyed blond. I think the term Aryan is a little offensive (as do a number of other posters). If it is offensive to people- then it is an offensive term- nuff said.
As for people claiming that some of those babies aren't cute.... SHAME ON YOU!!!!! ALL babies are beautiful, whether they are diverse or not.
The winners were voted on by America no? Sour grapes anyone?
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Re: Is LIVE kidding me?!?!? Aryan babies
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As for people claiming that some of those babies aren't cute.... SHAME ON YOU!!!!! ALL babies are beautiful, whether they are diverse or not.
ITA !
Everyone is discussing whether or not the term used was offensive but noone has mentioned the SPECIFIC comments on whether or not the babies are cute (and whether they are funny looking) so the SPECIFIC comments get no feedback, but the "maybe offensive" HAS to be offensive...
i hope I made sense
they are all adorable !
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