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KateDevine
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Re: Naming a child Jr, 3rd, 4th, etc.
Posted by GoldenRod
I have yet to meet a "Jr" that actually got to use their real name. It's always "Larry" instead of "Lawrence", "Billy" instead of "William", etc. I figure if you're going to give them a unique name anyway, you might as well make it officially unique.
My DH goes by Chris, which, yes, is a nickname of Christopher, but most Christophers go by Chris. In fact, most people think it is weird that DS goes by his full name.
And I think the names you mentioned would be shortened no matter what, even they weren't Jrs, IIIs, whatver. My name is Kathryn and I go by Kate and I am not a Jr
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Re: Naming a child Jr, 3rd, 4th, etc.
I don't like it for my child and would never do it, and DH doesn't like that either so we're on the same page
But, if you and DH both like the name (it IS a beautiful name), then I say go for it.
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| Posted 5/8/08 8:26 PM |
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GoldenRod
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Re: Naming a child Jr, 3rd, 4th, etc.
Posted by KateDevine
Posted by GoldenRod
I have yet to meet a "Jr" that actually got to use their real name. It's always "Larry" instead of "Lawrence", "Billy" instead of "William", etc. I figure if you're going to give them a unique name anyway, you might as well make it officially unique.
My DH goes by Chris, which, yes, is a nickname of Christopher, but most Christophers go by Chris. In fact, most people think it is weird that DS goes by his full name.
And I think the names you mentioned would be shortened no matter what, even they weren't Jrs, IIIs, whatver. My name is Kathryn and I go by Kate and I am not a Jr
Actually, I should have said that the Sr. usually gets the nickname, but the Jr. doesn't get a choice. They are raised using their "full" name. In the cases that I mentioned, I picked them because I know them personally. The father is Larry, and the son is Lawrence, and in the other family, the father is Billy, and the son is William. The sons get "gyped" out of having a nickname.
There's a DC in DS's karate class who is a Jr. His name is Michael. I called him Mike one time, and he explained to me that "My dad is Mike, I'm Michael."
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Re: Naming a child Jr, 3rd, 4th, etc.
My husband is a jr. and when we found out we were having a  I really wanted to stick with my husbands first name it has been in the family for generations so we decided to do his first name (Theodore aka Teddy) and the middle name (Ernesto after his mom who passed away Ernestine). So to avoid financially credit issues like my hubby has had since he was 15. Good luck with what ever you decide to do. I am sure what ever you decide will be perfect for your little cutie pie
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Re: Naming a child Jr, 3rd, 4th, etc.
I am not a fan of it.
I like DS to have his own name, his own identity.
I feel Jr, II, III, etc... have to leave up to expectations and carry on a tradition they may not like.
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jprimrose
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Re: Naming a child Jr, 3rd, 4th, etc.
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by KateDevine
Posted by GoldenRod
I have yet to meet a "Jr" that actually got to use their real name. It's always "Larry" instead of "Lawrence", "Billy" instead of "William", etc. I figure if you're going to give them a unique name anyway, you might as well make it officially unique.
My DH goes by Chris, which, yes, is a nickname of Christopher, but most Christophers go by Chris. In fact, most people think it is weird that DS goes by his full name.
And I think the names you mentioned would be shortened no matter what, even they weren't Jrs, IIIs, whatver. My name is Kathryn and I go by Kate and I am not a Jr
Actually, I should have said that the Sr. usually gets the nickname, but the Jr. doesn't get a choice. They are raised using their "full" name. In the cases that I mentioned, I picked them because I know them personally. The father is Larry, and the son is Lawrence, and in the other family, the father is Billy, and the son is William. The sons get "gyped" out of having a nickname.
There's a DC in DS's karate class who is a Jr. His name is Michael. I called him Mike one time, and he explained to me that "My dad is Mike, I'm Michael."
Like I said before my DH goes by Alex and my DS by Alexander. I do not think he will ever be "gyped" out of having a nickname. Honestly I am not a fan of nicknames. Even if my son was not named after my DH I would still call him Alexander. Also, once all kids go to school they will get nicknames whether they are junior or not.
I know many people whom their parents call them by their full name, and their friends call them by nicknames and it has nothing to do with being Jr.
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Re: Naming a child Jr, 3rd, 4th, etc.
Posted by dottiemchugh
DH and FIL have the same first names, but not middle names, so he is not a Jr. BUT, FIL's info has shown up on DH's credit, and visa versa. Mail constantly gets screwed up, it's a mess. I am not a fan of it personally.
Same thing with my Father and brother.
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Re: Naming a child Jr, 3rd, 4th, etc.
My DH didn't want a Jr at first, and we came up with different boy names, but never really loved what we picked, so I told my DH that I think a Jr would be adorable and I'm so glad we agreed on it cause our son looks so much like a Todd, and I also love my DH's name. I have a lot of Jr's in my family.
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maybebaby
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Re: Naming a child Jr, 3rd, 4th, etc.
I'm sorry if this sounds harsh but I can't stand people saying that a child won't have his or her own identity if they are named after their father! How is that possible?? Of course they are their own person and their own unique being..a name is a name!!!
Is it the same thing if someone is the only Ava in their family but are one of 6 in their class?? Do they not have their own identity then?
Sorry I just think that mindset is ridiculous. I come from a family with many of the same names and not once did it ever cross my mind that someone loses their identity...especially when nicknames are used, we have never been confused!
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GoldenRod
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Re: Naming a child Jr, 3rd, 4th, etc.
Posted by maybebaby
I'm sorry if this sounds harsh but I can't stand people saying that a child won't have his or her own identity if they are named after their father! How is that possible?? Of course they are their own person and their own unique being..a name is a name!!!
Is it the same thing if someone is the only Ava in their family but are one of 6 in their class?? Do they not have their own identity then?
Sorry I just think that mindset is ridiculous. I come from a family with many of the same names and not once did it ever cross my mind that someone loses their identity...especially when nicknames are used, we have never been confused!
In our society, Jr's DO lose their identity in certain legal aspects. I've named numerous first-hand accounts of people who have had credit problems, mail problem, etc, etc. because they have the same name as someone else. I'm not saying that the child loses their identity, but from a paperwork point of view, they absolutely do. It's just the way our society is set up.
In class, I seriously doubt there will be another child in DC's class with the EXACT same name. Many kids go by "Jim H" vs "Jim M". Part of the name is the same, but they still have a different name.
Socially, they don't lose their identity, which is what you're referring to. A person's name is just a label, not the sum of who they are. You also mentioned that socially, they do have different names. Once someone goes by a nickname most of the time, it differentiates them from their father/son, so they essentially give themselves a different name to avoid confusion.
I'm not trying to start any drama, just explaining why many people don't like the Junioring idea. 
DS's middle name is my first name, so I'm definitely not against passing things down. 
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maybebaby
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Re: Naming a child Jr, 3rd, 4th, etc.
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by maybebaby
I'm sorry if this sounds harsh but I can't stand people saying that a child won't have his or her own identity if they are named after their father! How is that possible?? Of course they are their own person and their own unique being..a name is a name!!!
Is it the same thing if someone is the only Ava in their family but are one of 6 in their class?? Do they not have their own identity then?
Sorry I just think that mindset is ridiculous. I come from a family with many of the same names and not once did it ever cross my mind that someone loses their identity...especially when nicknames are used, we have never been confused!
In our society, Jr's DO lose their identity in certain legal aspects. I've named numerous first-hand accounts of people who have had credit problems, mail problem, etc, etc. because they have the same name as someone else. I'm not saying that the child loses their identity, but from a paperwork point of view, they absolutely do. It's just the way our society is set up.
In class, I seriously doubt there will be another child in DC's class with the EXACT same name. Many kids go by "Jim H" vs "Jim M". Part of the name is the same, but they still have a different name.
Socially, they don't lose their identity, which is what you're referring to. A person's name is just a label, not the sum of who they are. You also mentioned that socially, they do have different names. Once someone goes by a nickname most of the time, it differentiates them from their father/son, so they essentially give themselves a different name to avoid confusion.
I'm not trying to start any drama, just explaining why many people don't like the Junioring idea.
DS's middle name is my first name, so I'm definitely not against passing things down.
I do understand what you're saying...but there are people that definitely think their child will be "lost" and not feel like their own person if named after the dad. I find that mentality very odd...
Message edited 5/9/2008 8:53:07 AM.
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jprimrose
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Re: Naming a child Jr, 3rd, 4th, etc.
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by maybebaby
I'm sorry if this sounds harsh but I can't stand people saying that a child won't have his or her own identity if they are named after their father! How is that possible?? Of course they are their own person and their own unique being..a name is a name!!!
Is it the same thing if someone is the only Ava in their family but are one of 6 in their class?? Do they not have their own identity then?
Sorry I just think that mindset is ridiculous. I come from a family with many of the same names and not once did it ever cross my mind that someone loses their identity...especially when nicknames are used, we have never been confused!
In our society, Jr's DO lose their identity in certain legal aspects. I've named numerous first-hand accounts of people who have had credit problems, mail problem, etc, etc. because they have the same name as someone else. I'm not saying that the child loses their identity, but from a paperwork point of view, they absolutely do. It's just the way our society is set up.
In class, I seriously doubt there will be another child in DC's class with the EXACT same name. Many kids go by "Jim H" vs "Jim M". Part of the name is the same, but they still have a different name.
Socially, they don't lose their identity, which is what you're referring to. A person's name is just a label, not the sum of who they are. You also mentioned that socially, they do have different names. Once someone goes by a nickname most of the time, it differentiates them from their father/son, so they essentially give themselves a different name to avoid confusion.
I'm not trying to start any drama, just explaining why many people don't like the Junioring idea.
DS's middle name is my first name, so I'm definitely not against passing things down.
That is you experience and opinion, which is fine. Other people have different experiences and opinions. There are many adults in my family named after their fathers and none of them experienced the problems you are explaining, and none of them have "changed" their names to differentiate them from their fathers. I think it is great that we all have different opinions and experiences to share with original poster.
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Re: Naming a child Jr, 3rd, 4th, etc.
My DH is a Jr. and while he dosent mind it...a lot of things at banks etc. do get confused between him and his father...if we do end up having a son he nor i want a K** Charles the 3rd...will will keep his middle name as FIL and DH middle name...so all 3 would have Charles...so they are still connected in some way...but DS would have his own first name.
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Re: Naming a child Jr, 3rd, 4th, etc.
Posted by Disneygirl
Me personally I'm not a big fan of two people in the same house having the same name. Too much confusion not to mention I hate when the child gets stuck with the name Junior.
I agree
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Re: Naming a child Jr, 3rd, 4th, etc.
Posted by dottiemchugh
DH and FIL have the same first names, but not middle names, so he is not a Jr. BUT, FIL's info has shown up on DH's credit, and visa versa. Mail constantly gets screwed up, it's a mess. I am not a fan of it personally.
Same with our family. DH and FIL have same first names, and some of DH's info shows up on FIL's credit reports and vice versa.
When DS was born, DH wanted to name him after FIL, but that would have three of them with the same first & last names in the same town.
We compromised and named him a unique first name and the same middle name as FIL. THEN we find out DH's uncle (FIL's bro) uses that unique name as a nickname - so we aren't unique at all. 
This is really not that important, but I hate being the same "Mrs. John Lastname" as my MIL. When we go to weddings and look for our placecards, FIL takes one with Mr. and Mrs. John Lastname, and MIL takes the other one with Mr. and Mrs. John Lastname - leaving DH and I to think we're not seated. You'd think they'd talk to each other and say, "only one of us should take a card and leave the other one for the OTHER people here with our same name." No joke, this happens at every wedding/christening/first communion event we go to. DH and I have learned to race to the placecard table at all these functions so that we know where we're seated.
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Re: Naming a child Jr, 3rd, 4th, etc.
It's hard, because I am all about tradition.... However, my father and brother have the same first and middle names. It's been nothing but hassle. My brother is trying to get a mortgage for his new house, and his credit report is riddled with my dad's info and vice versa. Not that the credit is bad, it's just wrong and needs to be corrected, a huge hassle. Even with birthdates and SS#s its all messed up.
I wanted to name my son after DH, but with a different middle name.
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Re: Naming a child Jr, 3rd, 4th, etc.
My DS is a jr. named exactly after his father and his grandpa's first name (diff middle name). I didn't really have a choice 
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