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Re: NC restaurant bans screaming kids. Thoughts?
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Posted by DPerotti
I would like to think most people take their screaming child out of a restaurant.
I would venture to say that the sign wasn't just put up to be offputting but rather bc there are lots of people who don't take their screaming child out of a restaurant. Putting up the sign is their perogative much like declining service to flip-flop weareres, etc. I have no isues with it. It's not discriminatory, it's just a request/reminder.
We take Charlie (27 months & very active & very conversational) everywhere with us...family-friendly to upscale restaurants & she remains very well-behaved & always occupied with something from my bag: crayons, books, toys, and if it's really late for her, my iphone ;) I can't expect her to just be able to sit still & quiet on her own for 1-2h but I also don't expect her to act inappropriately for the situation.
but my point was in my opinion, I don't think the sign was necessary why do just kids get singled out. I just don't find it necessary is all. I don't care if she puts it up, but like sweettooth said, where is the line drawn.
Joey is well behaved in restaurants but lately he SCREECHES in excitement at eating table foods lol. . .do I get the boot then? KWIM?
Maybe the sign should just say. . .ALL noisy people need to leave this restaurant, this includes:
-children having a meltdown
-people on their cell phones
-obnoxious person to my right having the loudest conversation I've ever heard
-drunk guy yelling at everyone . .
etc.
again, I just think the sign is unnecessary.
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Re: NC restaurant bans screaming kids. Thoughts?
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i just will never understand how people have become so intolerant of one another.
That one persons dining experience is more important than someone else's with children is. Children make noise, they always have. I dont get it. I think people need to get over themselves.
I dont know, kids will be kids, and their noise level does not bother me. I am not that uptight, to care what noise is coming out of a small child.
I would also bet that MOST parents do not need to be told to take care of their screaming child or take them outside for a moment.
Why should people out to dinner be asked to tolerate out of control children?
What is wrong with people wanting to enjoy a relaxing meal?
I think some parents need to get over themselves.
while I understand your point of view... I think sometimes your wording is so harsh that it's really inflammatory and your intended message is lost
I'm sorry is it ok for one person to say "I think people need to get over themselves." and not another here?
Sorry, I didn't see that... I just don't feel it's necessary to be so harsh - KWIM?
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Re: NC restaurant bans screaming kids. Thoughts?
Posted by annoyedTTCer
Posted by eddiesmommy
i just will never understand how people have become so intolerant of one another.
That one persons dining experience is more important than someone else's with children is. Children make noise, they always have. I dont get it. I think people need to get over themselves.
I dont know, kids will be kids, and their noise level does not bother me. I am not that uptight, to care what noise is coming out of a small child.
I would also bet that MOST parents do not need to be told to take care of their screaming child or take them outside for a moment.
Why should people out to dinner be asked to tolerate out of control children?
What is wrong with people wanting to enjoy a relaxing meal?
I think some parents need to get over themselves.
I didnt say anything about out of control children, I hardly call a child yelling, out of control.
This is assuming, they child is just having a moment and not screaming through an entire meal.
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| Posted 9/9/10 12:41 PM |
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Re: NC restaurant bans screaming kids. Thoughts?
Now that we have kids, DH and realize there are some restaurants that we won't go to with them. If DH and I go to Outback or Fridays and hear screaming kids, no problem---I'd almost expect it. BUT if we are going to a nice restaurant (which we rarely have $ or time to do), we leave the kids hope and I'd hope that there weren't any screaming kids so we could enjoy our meal. It's unfortunate that the sign is necessary, but I'm assuming there were incidents that caused the owner to post the sign.
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Re: NC restaurant bans screaming kids. Thoughts?
Posted by maybeamommy
Posted by annoyedTTCer
Posted by maybeamommy
Posted by annoyedTTCer
Posted by eddiesmommy
i just will never understand how people have become so intolerant of one another.
That one persons dining experience is more important than someone else's with children is. Children make noise, they always have. I dont get it. I think people need to get over themselves.
I dont know, kids will be kids, and their noise level does not bother me. I am not that uptight, to care what noise is coming out of a small child.
I would also bet that MOST parents do not need to be told to take care of their screaming child or take them outside for a moment.
Why should people out to dinner be asked to tolerate out of control children?
What is wrong with people wanting to enjoy a relaxing meal?
I think some parents need to get over themselves.
while I understand your point of view... I think sometimes your wording is so harsh that it's really inflammatory and your intended message is lost
I'm sorry is it ok for one person to say "I think people need to get over themselves." and not another here?
Sorry, I didn't see that... I just don't feel it's necessary to be so harsh - KWIM?
I was talking about the general public at large, and everyones intolerance for everyone else, and how its a me me me society.
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Re: NC restaurant bans screaming kids. Thoughts?
Posted by annoyedTTCer
Posted by eddiesmommy
i just will never understand how people have become so intolerant of one another.
That one persons dining experience is more important than someone else's with children is. Children make noise, they always have. I dont get it. I think people need to get over themselves.
I dont know, kids will be kids, and their noise level does not bother me. I am not that uptight, to care what noise is coming out of a small child.
I would also bet that MOST parents do not need to be told to take care of their screaming child or take them outside for a moment.
Why should people out to dinner be asked to tolerate out of control children?
What is wrong with people wanting to enjoy a relaxing meal?
I think some parents need to get over themselves.
ITA. I think its so rude when other parents think that its ok to allow their child to have a tantrum in a restaurant and not take them outside. Why should I have listen to that? If my child behaves this way I take them ouside immediately when it begins because I would never want someone else's dinner to be disturbed because of my child.
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Re: NC restaurant bans screaming kids. Thoughts?
Posted by eddiesmommy
I was talking about the general public at large, and everyones intolerance for everyone else, and how its a me me me society.
I knew that's what you meant. . .
for the record 
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Re: NC restaurant bans screaming kids. Thoughts?
Posted by dina1999
Posted by annoyedTTCer
Posted by eddiesmommy
i just will never understand how people have become so intolerant of one another.
That one persons dining experience is more important than someone else's with children is. Children make noise, they always have. I dont get it. I think people need to get over themselves.
I dont know, kids will be kids, and their noise level does not bother me. I am not that uptight, to care what noise is coming out of a small child.
I would also bet that MOST parents do not need to be told to take care of their screaming child or take them outside for a moment.
Why should people out to dinner be asked to tolerate out of control children?
What is wrong with people wanting to enjoy a relaxing meal?
I think some parents need to get over themselves.
ITA. I think its so rude when other parents think that its ok to allow their child to have a tantrum in a restaurant and not take them outside. Why should I have listen to that? If my child behaves this way I take them ouside immediately when it begins because I would never want someone else's dinner to be disturbed because of my child.
AGAIN, I said NOTHING about children having tantrums, children running amuck, I said children making child noises at a child noise level. Sometimes children yell, and they arent misbehaving or having a tantrum.
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Re: NC restaurant bans screaming kids. Thoughts?
it doesn't bother me. As a parent, I try and think of others and tend to only bring DS to resturants I know are kid approriate.
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Re: NC restaurant bans screaming kids. Thoughts?
Posted by eddiesmommy
Posted by dina1999
Posted by annoyedTTCer
Posted by eddiesmommy
i just will never understand how people have become so intolerant of one another.
That one persons dining experience is more important than someone else's with children is. Children make noise, they always have. I dont get it. I think people need to get over themselves.
I dont know, kids will be kids, and their noise level does not bother me. I am not that uptight, to care what noise is coming out of a small child.
I would also bet that MOST parents do not need to be told to take care of their screaming child or take them outside for a moment.
Why should people out to dinner be asked to tolerate out of control children?
What is wrong with people wanting to enjoy a relaxing meal?
I think some parents need to get over themselves.
ITA. I think its so rude when other parents think that its ok to allow their child to have a tantrum in a restaurant and not take them outside. Why should I have listen to that? If my child behaves this way I take them ouside immediately when it begins because I would never want someone else's dinner to be disturbed because of my child.
AGAIN, I said NOTHING about children having tantrums, children running amuck, I said children making child noises at a child noise level. Sometimes children yell, and they arent misbehaving or having a tantrum.
Personally I don't think that's appropriate in a restaurant setting. Children yelling because they are having fun can be just as grating and annoying as children yelling because they are upset. This restaurant is addressing a noise and annoyance issue and I personally have no problem with it. I don't see it as being intolerant - I see it as trying to make the experience enjoyable for all their customers.
I am always telling DS to use his indoor voice, and if he cries, I will remove him. However, it's a fact that some parents do not care enough about others around them and need to be reminded that not everyone can block out the screams of a child like they can 
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Re: NC restaurant bans screaming kids. Thoughts?
Posted by headoverheels
Posted by eddiesmommy
Posted by dina1999
Posted by annoyedTTCer
Posted by eddiesmommy
i just will never understand how people have become so intolerant of one another.
That one persons dining experience is more important than someone else's with children is. Children make noise, they always have. I dont get it. I think people need to get over themselves.
I dont know, kids will be kids, and their noise level does not bother me. I am not that uptight, to care what noise is coming out of a small child.
I would also bet that MOST parents do not need to be told to take care of their screaming child or take them outside for a moment.
Why should people out to dinner be asked to tolerate out of control children?
What is wrong with people wanting to enjoy a relaxing meal?
I think some parents need to get over themselves.
ITA. I think its so rude when other parents think that its ok to allow their child to have a tantrum in a restaurant and not take them outside. Why should I have listen to that? If my child behaves this way I take them ouside immediately when it begins because I would never want someone else's dinner to be disturbed because of my child.
AGAIN, I said NOTHING about children having tantrums, children running amuck, I said children making child noises at a child noise level. Sometimes children yell, and they arent misbehaving or having a tantrum.
Personally I don't think that's appropriate in a restaurant setting. Children yelling because they are having fun can be just as grating and annoying as children yelling because they are upset. This restaurant is addressing a noise and annoyance issue and I personally have no problem with it. I don't see it as being intolerant - I see it as trying to make the experience enjoyable for all their customers.
I am always telling DS to use his indoor voice, and if he cries, I will remove him. However, it's a fact that some parents do not care enough about others around them and need to be reminded that not everyone can block out the screams of a child like they can
I dont disagree, but I also dont think they deserved to be kicked out of a restaurant for isolated incidents of yelling.
Again just to be clear, I am NOT talking about screaming though an entire meal, Im talking about short little bouts where their volume goes up.
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Re: NC restaurant bans screaming kids. Thoughts?
Posted by eddiesmommy
I dont disagree, but I also dont think they deserved to be kicked out of a restaurant for isolated incidents of yelling.
I thought they weren't being kicked out of the restaurant, just being asked to take the child out until they calm down/settle down/quiet down, what have you  ...or is that what you mean by kicked out?
I understand people are a little unsure and clearly there is a 'gray' area but I think the only way to found out is to call the restaurant and ask them for specifics...
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| Posted 9/9/10 1:56 PM |
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Re: NC restaurant bans screaming kids. Thoughts?
Posted by MrsA714
I think the only way to found out is to call the restaurant and ask them for specifics...
alright, who is going to call? 
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Re: NC restaurant bans screaming kids. Thoughts?
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I think the only way to found out is to call the restaurant and ask them for specifics...
alright, who is going to call?
Not sure if I can call long distance from work....
Does the restaurant allow phones...or is the ringer too loud for the patrons . Might have to email them.
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| Posted 9/9/10 2:03 PM |
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Re: NC restaurant bans screaming kids. Thoughts?
People (and I mean the ADULTS) are rude no matter if you have a screaming kid or not
DH and I went to a FAMILY diner in New Paltz during the afternoon and my 3 year old went to a woman sitting adjacent to us us and said "Hello"--when she didnt respond he said "hello" again
Then the dumb bbeeaattcchhh looks him in the face and says "You are RUDE!"
i dont need to explain what I did next................
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Re: NC restaurant bans screaming kids. Thoughts?
Posted by JenBenMen
People (and I mean the ADULTS) are rude no matter if you have a screaming kid or not
DH and I went to a FAMILY diner in New Paltz during the afternoon and my 3 year old went to a woman sitting adjacent to us us and said "Hello"--when she didnt respond he said "hello" again
Then the dumb bbeeaattcchhh looks him in the face and says "You are RUDE!"
i dont need to explain what I did next................
That is just CRAZY and I would have opened a can of whoop a$$ on her!!!  
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Re: NC restaurant bans screaming kids. Thoughts?
Im done talking about this......I think the sign is ridiculous and Im not going to keep going back and forth making the same points and or clarifying them. I think its stupid, but I dont really care all that much about it.
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Re: NC restaurant bans screaming kids. Thoughts?
Posted by JenBenMen
People (and I mean the ADULTS) are rude no matter if you have a screaming kid or not
DH and I went to a FAMILY diner in New Paltz during the afternoon and my 3 year old went to a woman sitting adjacent to us us and said "Hello"--when she didnt respond he said "hello" again
Then the dumb bbeeaattcchhh looks him in the face and says "You are RUDE!"
i dont need to explain what I did next................
you don't have to explain, but I would LOVE to hear it!! When did saying hello become rude?
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Re: NC restaurant bans screaming kids. Thoughts?
Posted by JenBenMen
People (and I mean the ADULTS) are rude no matter if you have a screaming kid or not
DH and I went to a FAMILY diner in New Paltz during the afternoon and my 3 year old went to a woman sitting adjacent to us us and said "Hello"--when she didnt respond he said "hello" again
Then the dumb bbeeaattcchhh looks him in the face and says "You are RUDE!"
i dont need to explain what I did next................
Not to fan any flames... but do you mean he walked up to her to say hello? Was she in the middle of a conversation? I am just trying to remember back to my child-free days (not that her response was appropriate, I am only curious).
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Re: NC restaurant bans screaming kids. Thoughts?
Posted by headoverheels
Posted by JenBenMen
People (and I mean the ADULTS) are rude no matter if you have a screaming kid or not
DH and I went to a FAMILY diner in New Paltz during the afternoon and my 3 year old went to a woman sitting adjacent to us us and said "Hello"--when she didnt respond he said "hello" again
Then the dumb bbeeaattcchhh looks him in the face and says "You are RUDE!"
i dont need to explain what I did next................
Not to fan any flames... but do you mean he walked up to her to say hello? Was she in the middle of a conversation? I am just trying to remember back to my child-free days (not that her response was appropriate, I am only curious).
He nicely said hello...she was by herself....i was actually the calm one....DH let her have it (in a calm voice of course)
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| Posted 9/9/10 2:44 PM |
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Re: NC restaurant bans screaming kids. Thoughts?
Having been to nice restaurants, movies, broadway shows, wedding ceremonies and other venues where, in theory I would have expected a parent to take a screaming child outside until they could cool off (but the parents did nothing and the child just wailed away disrupting everyone around them) I think it's a great idea.
It's not banning kids completely - quiet children are still welcome and I was under the impression that once a screaming kid calmed down they would be allowed back inside. I think this is how all restaurants should be, honestly, but for those who disagree it really just designates this venue as a "nicer" place where you're expected to be quiet and not disrupt other diners rather than a place like McDonalds where people assume "anything goes" and "you should expect screaming children if you eat there." It also lets parents who dont like these rules avoid this restaurant, and encourages those seeking a more peaceful dining experience to eat there. Plus, it's controversial and probably got them a lot of publicity (leading to more business)
Then again, I'm not a parent
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Re: NC restaurant bans screaming kids. Thoughts?
I'm not opposed to the sign and I think the mother who made it an issue about discrimination against autistic children was overreacting. I have a 5 month old and DH and I will take him out with us to restaurants all the time. If he starts to get fussy, one of us will take him outside until he settles down. We are very conscientious of the other diners and know that most people (ourselves included pre-baby) don't want to have to listen to a crying/yelling child while enjoying their meal. Unfortunately, not everyone else is as courteous. DH and I have been in restaurants where kids were running around the tables, yelling, etc. We've even had kids run underneath our table! The parents were busy chatting and didn't try to stop them. If the sign helps stop things like that from happening, then I'm all for it. Although I do think it should also include loud cell phone talkers and obnoxious drunk people also!
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| Posted 9/9/10 3:15 PM |
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Re: NC restaurant bans screaming kids. Thoughts?
There are a number of previous posts that I really agree with.
Personally, I would not go to this restaurant with or without my kids because I think it's a little obnoxious and offensive because it makes parents apprehensive about bringing their kids there. You do not always know how your child will react. If your child is acting up, you need to deal with it appropriately. Most parents get very embarrassed if their child acts up, and a place putting up a sign like that will only add to a parent's stress, which does absolutely no good. If a parent doesn't respond appropriately, sign or no sign, management has a right to suggest taking the child outside to calm down. The sign just makes you feel unwelcome, even with (typically) well-behaved children.
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Re: NC restaurant bans screaming kids. Thoughts?
Posted by JenBenMen
People (and I mean the ADULTS) are rude no matter if you have a screaming kid or not
DH and I went to a FAMILY diner in New Paltz during the afternoon and my 3 year old went to a woman sitting adjacent to us us and said "Hello"--when she didnt respond he said "hello" again
Then the dumb bbeeaattcchhh looks him in the face and says "You are RUDE!"
i dont need to explain what I did next................
You know, I get that not everyone likes kids or has to like them- but would it have killed her to say hello back? It would have been the end of the exchange and it would have taken two seconds.
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Re: NC restaurant bans screaming kids. Thoughts?
My DS got some teenagers mad the other day at a Diner because he was talking too loud for their liking
I am fine with the sign. It is restaurant, they can do as they please. And even now as a parent, there is little that bothers me more when I am out to eat and someone does not take their crying child outside to calm down.
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