| Posted By |
Message |
| Pages: 1 [2] 3 4 |
seaside
LIF Adult
Member since 6/08 3101 total posts
Name:
|
Re: No more Halloween?
Posted by EatingMyVeggies
mmmmmmmm i don't think it would bother me.
it makes it so everyone is included at least, which can't be a bad thing.
I knew a kid or two growing up who had no birthday celebrations or halloween celebrations. One time a girl had to read a different book (because the book we read had some witch-y stuff in it or something?). I always felt badly for them in a way.
I'm not a fan of everything having to be PC but...this is one of my pet peeves:
I can't stand the people who say "It's MERRY CHRISTMAS. NOT happy holidays!" (or anyone with that stupid bumper sticker). Umm...not everyone celebrates Christmas...I can see saying it on xmas eve and the actual day of Christmas, but if you're saying it on Dec 8, and you *INSIST* on saying that just to prove your point, you're just an asshole in my eyes. 
When I say "Happy Holidays" it's not me trying to be PC..it's me being inclusive to everyone and realizing that what I follow in my life isn't what others do..and my own beliefs/followings aren't more important than others.
|
Posted 10/22/15 10:10 PM  |
| |
|
Long Island Weddings
Long Island's Largest Bridal Resource |
LIRascal
drama. daily.
Member since 3/11 7287 total posts
Name:
Michelle
|
Re: No more Halloween?
Posted by gina409
Posted by evrythng4areason
I think the whole politically correct thing in our culture has gone WAY too far
I agree
Ok me too. Why are
A) some people so ready to sue at the drop of a hat
B) so many districts and people caving in, if the general consensus is "this is bull$hit" ? 
|
| Posted 10/22/15 10:24 PM |
| |
|
ElizaRags35
My 2 Girls
Member since 2/09 20494 total posts
Name:
Me
|
Re: No more Halloween?
Posted by EatingMyVeggies
mmmmmmmm i don't think it would bother me.
it makes it so everyone is included at least, which can't be a bad thing.
I knew a kid or two growing up who had no birthday celebrations or halloween celebrations. One time a girl had to read a different book (because the book we read had some witch-y stuff in it or something?). I always felt badly for them in a way.
I'm not a fan of everything having to be PC but...this is one of my pet peeves:
I can't stand the people who say "It's MERRY CHRISTMAS. NOT happy holidays!" (or anyone with that stupid bumper sticker). Umm...not everyone celebrates Christmas...I can see saying it on xmas eve and the actual day of Christmas, but if you're saying it on Dec 8, and you *INSIST* on saying that just to prove your point, you're just an asshole in my eyes.
When I say "Happy Holidays" it's not me trying to be PC..it's me being inclusive to everyone and realizing that what I follow in my life isn't what others do..and my own beliefs/followings aren't more important than others.
I agree with this.
I don't understand the big deal about saying Happy Holidays.
|
| Posted 10/22/15 10:31 PM |
| |
|
WhatNow
Say Cheese!
Member since 1/06 8033 total posts
Name:
A (formerly WhatNow?)
|
Re: No more Halloween?
WHO would get offended by Halloween???
|
| Posted 10/22/15 11:10 PM |
| |
|
|
|
Re: No more Halloween?
Posted by WhatNow
WHO would get offended by Halloween???
Definitely jehovah witnesses
|
| Posted 10/22/15 11:35 PM |
| |
|
nferrandi
too excited for words
Member since 10/05 18538 total posts
Name:
Nicole
|
Re: No more Halloween?
My DS is having a harvest party in class, but the school hosts a Halloween dance Friday night. Obviously no one is required to go and it's not during school hours.
|
| Posted 10/22/15 11:44 PM |
| |
|
ElizaRags35
My 2 Girls
Member since 2/09 20494 total posts
Name:
Me
|
Re: No more Halloween?
Posted by WhatNow
WHO would get offended by Halloween???
When I worked in daycare, I asked a parent what her kids were going to be for Halloween and I was told "black people don't celebrate Halloween" but her kids were dressing up so they wouldn't feel left out.
|
| Posted 10/22/15 11:46 PM |
| |
|
evrythng4areason
And then there were 4
Member since 1/10 5224 total posts
Name:
Kayla
|
Re: No more Halloween?
Posted by ElizaRags35
Posted by WhatNow
WHO would get offended by Halloween???
When I worked in daycare, I asked a parent what her kids were going to be for Halloween and I was told "black people don't celebrate Halloween" but her kids were dressing up so they wouldn't feel left out.
See, that's just ignorant on her part.
|
| Posted 10/23/15 6:11 AM |
| |
|
MrsH2009
Thank you St. Gerard!
Member since 8/09 6631 total posts
Name:
M
|
Re: No more Halloween?
Posted by KarenK122
It doesn't bother me having Fall parties (the kids are still allowed to wear costumes) or Holiday/Winter Parties. That was it is inclusive to everyone. What does bother me is that they want to erase every mention of every holiday in schools. I use to love parents coming in making potato latkes and us making gingerbread men for christmas. Now they are not allowed to do either. We even had a parent complain because they watched the movie Elf and it had Santa in it. I also had a parent complain because I put a clip art of an ornament on a PTA flyer for the Holiday Boutique at school. It was too Christmasy! Maybe people should be embracing other traditions instead of pretending they do not exist. Teach my kids about Kwanza or Chinese New Year. I would love it.
Ugh dreading DS entering public school next year if this is the way it is. I remember growing up, and my experience teaching, that parents were welcomed to come and speak about their traditions and teach us. That is how I learned about other cultures. So far our local public schools do a Halloween parade, but the dance is called a Harvest dance. They do have breakfast with Santa and breakfast with the Easter bunny. I hope this doesn't change.
|
| Posted 10/23/15 6:40 AM |
| |
|
MrsH2009
Thank you St. Gerard!
Member since 8/09 6631 total posts
Name:
M
|
Re: No more Halloween?
Posted by EatingMyVeggies
Posted by WhatNow
WHO would get offended by Halloween???
Definitely jehovah witnesses
I have some very Christian friends, not Jehovah more like Baptists. They celebrate Halloween, but don't do the whole scary aspect, as it leans close to a devil thing for them. The church often has children activities the night of Halloween so they don't have to trick or treat. That is fine, they can still celebrate at school though. I never once dressed up as anything scary, I hate scary and Halloween is still fun to me!
|
| Posted 10/23/15 6:42 AM |
| |
|
|
|
Re: No more Halloween?
IMO I think it has more to do with the mayhem being associated with Halloween, and not religion and being PC. I taught in the city for a long time and we were not allowed to celebrate, because Halloween was a big gang initiation day. We always had a rapid dismissal, with the police outside to help us get the kids on their way home as fast as possible. Those years definitely changed the way I view Halloween.
The principal of DD's school wants nothing to do with Halloween either. Last year the kids were not going to be allowed to wear costumes because she did not want to be bothered with the hassle, because despite the notices you always have kids wearing inappropriate costumes, bringing swords and the like. We do not know if the kids will be allowed costumes this year. Usually in my district it ends by 3rd-4th grade.
|
| Posted 10/23/15 7:31 AM |
| |
|
sameinitials
insert creative comment here
Member since 2/12 1998 total posts
Name:
|
Re: No more Halloween?
Posted by afternoondelight828
It hasn't been called a "Halloween or Christmas" party in the schools for I would say at least the last 12 years that my kids have been in school. Holiday parties they are called now and I agree, it is ridiculous.
Really? You think it's ridiculous for there to be a holiday party instead of just a Christmas party?
|
| Posted 10/23/15 7:50 AM |
| |
|
sameinitials
insert creative comment here
Member since 2/12 1998 total posts
Name:
|
Re: No more Halloween?
Posted by KarenK122
It doesn't bother me having Fall parties (the kids are still allowed to wear costumes) or Holiday/Winter Parties. That was it is inclusive to everyone. What does bother me is that they want to erase every mention of every holiday in schools. I use to love parents coming in making potato latkes and us making gingerbread men for christmas. Now they are not allowed to do either. We even had a parent complain because they watched the movie Elf and it had Santa in it. I also had a parent complain because I put a clip art of an ornament on a PTA flyer for the Holiday Boutique at school. It was too Christmasy! Maybe people should be embracing other traditions instead of pretending they do not exist. Teach my kids about Kwanza or Chinese New Year. I would love it.
This - why shouldn't kids learn about other traditions? Isn't that how they would become accepting of them, to know what they are about?
|
| Posted 10/23/15 7:55 AM |
| |
|
sameinitials
insert creative comment here
Member since 2/12 1998 total posts
Name:
|
Re: No more Halloween?
Posted by mrsboss
I work with several Jehovah's witnesses. They refuse to partake in a Christmas party/luncheon or any holiday themed event, yet don't seem to have a problem accepting our annual CHRISTMAS bonus. 
See, I would be annoyed if it was actually called a Christmas bonus and not a year-end bonus or whatever. In situations where there are multiple holidays/occasions all occurring at around the same time, it doesn't hurt to be more inclusive, but could be alienating to be less inclusive.
|
| Posted 10/23/15 7:57 AM |
| |
|
ElizaRags35
My 2 Girls
Member since 2/09 20494 total posts
Name:
Me
|
Re: No more Halloween?
Posted by sameinitials
Posted by mrsboss
I work with several Jehovah's witnesses. They refuse to partake in a Christmas party/luncheon or any holiday themed event, yet don't seem to have a problem accepting our annual CHRISTMAS bonus.
See, I would be annoyed if it was actually called a Christmas bonus and not a year-end bonus or whatever. In situations where there are multiple holidays/occasions all occurring at around the same time, it doesn't hurt to be more inclusive, but could be alienating to be less inclusive.
I completely agree.
|
| Posted 10/23/15 8:56 AM |
| |
|
|
|
Re: No more Halloween?
Posted by KarenK122
It doesn't bother me having Fall parties (the kids are still allowed to wear costumes) or Holiday/Winter Parties. That was it is inclusive to everyone. What does bother me is that they want to erase every mention of every holiday in schools. I use to love parents coming in making potato latkes and us making gingerbread men for christmas. Now they are not allowed to do either. We even had a parent complain because they watched the movie Elf and it had Santa in it. I also had a parent complain because I put a clip art of an ornament on a PTA flyer for the Holiday Boutique at school. It was too Christmasy! Maybe people should be embracing other traditions instead of pretending they do not exist. Teach my kids about Kwanza or Chinese New Year. I would love it.
The irony is that in an effort to be "all-inclusive", we are actually prohibiting our children from learning about other cultures/religions.
|
| Posted 10/23/15 9:27 AM |
| |
|
Hofstra26
Love to Bake!
Member since 7/06 27915 total posts
Name:
|
Re: No more Halloween?
Posted by sameinitials
Posted by mrsboss
I work with several Jehovah's witnesses. They refuse to partake in a Christmas party/luncheon or any holiday themed event, yet don't seem to have a problem accepting our annual CHRISTMAS bonus.
See, I would be annoyed if it was actually called a Christmas bonus and not a year-end bonus or whatever. In situations where there are multiple holidays/occasions all occurring at around the same time, it doesn't hurt to be more inclusive, but could be alienating to be less inclusive.
DH's company has always referred to it as the "Xmas bonus". Who cares what they call it, money is money.
Something like this is a perfect example of why I feel as a society we've become entirely too sensitive, politically correct, and honestly............kind of annoying. How hypersensitive to actually care what they call a bonus. I'm just amazed at what upsets, bothers, or offends people these days. Call it a "year end you, you did a great job, and everyone is equal and appreciated" bonus for all I care............I'm cashing the check no matter what it's called. And I bet you are too!
Nowadays, there is too much time is being spent worrying about how EVERY, SINGLE person on the planet is going to react to something that is said or done. Everyone is so caught up in not offending, saying the right thing, and worrying about everyone that I find so many people (in an attempt to be PC and sensitive to everyone) are just a bunch of self righteous a$$holes who think they are better than everyone else. How is that a better society??? How is that a more tolerant and kind society???
In general, people need to lighten up. Learn to roll with things, see the humor in life, and not take everything so seriously ALL the time. The last thing we need is a whole new host of catchy little phrases so we don't offend anyone, someone getting pi$$ed off because a person says Merry Christmas on December 8th...........at least they are taking the time to be kind and even talk to to you, and worrying about what we call every celebration...........does calling it a "fall" party somehow make it any different than calling it a "Halloween" party?? Changing the "word" doesn't change what it is. This kind of stuff is so insanely petty. WHO CARES??!!!
We have become an overly PC, ultra-sensitive society lately where even the most innocuous thing can set someone off. It's just craziness. What's happened to the world?? 
|
| Posted 10/23/15 9:34 AM |
| |
|
StaceyWill
It's a girl!!!
Member since 6/10 21539 total posts
Name:
Stacey
|
Re: No more Halloween?
Posted by DaniJude
Posted by evrythng4areason
I think the whole politically correct thing in our culture has gone WAY too far
|
| Posted 10/23/15 9:34 AM |
| |
|
Pomegranate5
LIF Adult
Member since 2/11 4798 total posts
Name:
Pomegranate5
|
Re: No more Halloween?
Posted by sameinitials
Posted by mrsboss
I work with several Jehovah's witnesses. They refuse to partake in a Christmas party/luncheon or any holiday themed event, yet don't seem to have a problem accepting our annual CHRISTMAS bonus.
See, I would be annoyed if it was actually called a Christmas bonus and not a year-end bonus or whatever. In situations where there are multiple holidays/occasions all occurring at around the same time, it doesn't hurt to be more inclusive, but could be alienating to be less inclusive.
I agree.
A bonus should not and is not tied to which religion an employee belongs to.
Message edited 10/23/2015 9:38:39 AM.
|
| Posted 10/23/15 9:36 AM |
| |
|
BriBri2u
L'amore vince sempre
Member since 5/05 9320 total posts
Name:
Mrs. B
|
Re: No more Halloween?
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by sameinitials
Posted by mrsboss
I work with several Jehovah's witnesses. They refuse to partake in a Christmas party/luncheon or any holiday themed event, yet don't seem to have a problem accepting our annual CHRISTMAS bonus.
See, I would be annoyed if it was actually called a Christmas bonus and not a year-end bonus or whatever. In situations where there are multiple holidays/occasions all occurring at around the same time, it doesn't hurt to be more inclusive, but could be alienating to be less inclusive.
DH's company has always referred to it as the "Xmas bonus". Who cares what they call it, money is money.
Something like this is a perfect example of why I feel as a society we've become entirely too sensitive, politically correct, and honestly............kind of annoying. How hypersensitive to actually care what they call a bonus. I'm just amazed at what upsets, bothers, or offends people these days. Call it a "year end you, you did a great job, and everyone is equal and appreciated" bonus for all I care............I'm cashing the check no matter what it's called. And I bet you are too!
Nowadays, there is too much time is being spent worrying about how EVERY, SINGLE person on the planet is going to react to something that is said or done. Everyone is so caught up in not offending, saying the right thing, and worrying about everyone that I find so many people (in an attempt to be PC and sensitive to everyone) are just a bunch of self righteous a$$holes who think they are better than everyone else. How is that a better society??? How is that a more tolerant and kind society???
In general, people need to lighten up. Learn to roll with things, see the humor in life, and not take everything so seriously ALL the time. The last thing we need is a whole new host of catchy little phrases so we don't offend anyone, someone getting pi$$ed off because a person says Merry Christmas on December 8th...........at least they are taking the time to be kind and even talk to to you, and worrying about what we call every celebration...........does calling it a "fall" party somehow make it any different than calling it a "Halloween" party?? Changing the "word" doesn't change what it is. This kind of stuff is so insanely petty. WHO CARES??!!!
We have become an overly PC, ultra-sensitive society lately where even the most innocuous thing can set someone off. It's just craziness. What's happened to the world??
So tired of people who have time to be offended by 1st world problems like this.
|
| Posted 10/23/15 9:44 AM |
| |
|
NervousNell
Just another chapter in life..
Member since 11/09 54921 total posts
Name:
..being a mommy and being a wife!
|
Re: No more Halloween?
If you call me a c u next Tuesday I would get offended.
If you told me my DD was an ugly child I would get offended
If you wished me a Happy Hanukkah and I celebrate Christmas, I would not get OFFENDED.
I am a Yankee fan. Am I offended by all the LETS GO METS stuff on FB and in the media, etc?
Should we ban talk of a sports team because others who are not fans of that team can't participate?
I think offended is just getting overused!
Everything "offends" people.
Come on.
Message edited 10/23/2015 9:52:21 AM.
|
| Posted 10/23/15 9:51 AM |
| |
|
klingklang77
kraftwerk!
Member since 7/06 11487 total posts
Name:
Völlig losgelöst
|
Re: No more Halloween?
I think it's a bit strange, but I somewhat understand. I think this is just one of those things.
They are really weird about Scientology here. I had to sign a few papers saying that I had never read or followed any Scientology teachings. I thought that was a bit strange.
Personally, I'm not a fan of any religion, but that's not really a part of this discussion.
|
| Posted 10/23/15 10:05 AM |
| |
|
skew
LIF Adult
Member since 5/05 6794 total posts
Name:
|
Re: No more Halloween?
Really??? The district I am in is a having a Halloween Parade and class "party" for Elementary and a Halloween Spookfest for Middle School next Friday.
Message edited 10/23/2015 4:36:20 PM.
|
| Posted 10/23/15 10:23 AM |
| |
|
MrsM84
LIF Adult
Member since 2/13 2352 total posts
Name:
|
Re: No more Halloween?
Just for some comic relief...... Image Attachment(s):
|
| Posted 10/23/15 11:01 AM |
| |
|
MarisaK
HELLO Manolo !!
Member since 5/06 14562 total posts
Name:
Marisa
|
Re: No more Halloween?
Oh give me a break - I'm Catholic - I was the only girl in the Soririty house that wasn't Jewish -
You know what? I leanred 500 things about Jewish religon, family traditions, interesting stories ........I celebrated the holidays with them, helped them cook, learned their grandma's slang etc. - Things I never would have known or learned or ENJOYED if I wasn't allowed to be exposed to them.
I didn't freaking convert for God's sake! I wasn't scarred for life - I learned about my friends, I respected their beliefs, their traditions, their families - and I had a good time !!
Their parents didn't freak out when I cooked sauce & meatballs for the house on Sundays, or put up a Christmas tree during finals, or made spiked egg nog for a mixer, or played Christmas music -
Everyone is SO overly hypersensitive about this stuff - and the kids are totally oblivious. it's the ADULTS that make everything a huge issue.
|
| Posted 10/23/15 11:23 AM |
| |
|
| Pages: 1 [2] 3 4 |
