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Re: NYS orders new curfew on restaurants
They are following what they are doing over here. Next you will have an earlier curfew. Then they will close restaurants (they are closed for a month here, for now).
They also started with the 10 for private gatherings. Now it is 5, I believe, but only from two households. There is no way to check on this, but people follow the rules pretty much here. Hence, the reason why people stand at red man crossing lights. There are fines that nobody wants, so I guess that’s why. I saw someone get fined the other day at the main station for not wearing a mask (it was 200 Euro).
They have had a curfew on alcohol sales since the summer so people don’t buy alcohol and sit by the river or in certain Platzes (it’s a thing here).
They have also put whole counties on strict lockdown. It’s those on the border with Austria, France, the Netherlands, and Czech. That bugs me because I want them to close borders completely.
They call it lockdown light here.
But it is slowly working. We are in the middle of our second wave.
I suspect they will close your restaurants for the Christmas season. That’s just my guess. Just go with it. I’m annoyed, but I also have the option of Home Office. We are just waiting for the next stimulus and rent package and people are complaining about that now.
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Re: NYS orders new curfew on restaurants
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Did things change at some point? I thought further measurements were not gonna happen unless we reached to 5%, no?
5% was for school closing.
With that said, cases have increased exponentially in the last week. Our daily positivity was around 1-1.5%, we’ve been right below or above 3% for the last few days. Something needs to be done to help curb the spread.
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Re: NYS orders new curfew on restaurants
Posted by seaside
There will probably be another lockdown. I don't wat there to be one, and there doesn't have to be one.
But there will be one, and it will be because of people failing to quarantine and/or inform others when there has been exposure, symptoms, or a positive test. People will shrug it off and do what suits them. School, shopping, restaurants. People will carry on with no regard for others, and they will get us locked down.
That and anti-maskers who rationalize away their selfishness and get too close to others with no mask on. Even if you don't mind people without masks in public. Even if you don't get sick. These people will get you locked down.
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I couldn't agree with you more!
I am a masker who practices social distancing pretty seriously.
It is only because I want businesses and schools to remain open, and healthcare professionals to remain healthy, and to keep my family and myself Covid-free.
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Re: NYS orders new curfew on restaurants
Posted by klingklang77
They are following what they are doing over here. Next you will have an earlier curfew. Then they will close restaurants (they are closed for a month here, for now).
They also started with the 10 for private gatherings. Now it is 5, I believe, but only from two households. There is no way to check on this, but people follow the rules pretty much here. Hence, the reason why people stand at red man crossing lights. There are fines that nobody wants, so I guess that’s why. I saw someone get fined the other day at the main station for not wearing a mask (it was 200 Euro).
They have had a curfew on alcohol sales since the summer so people don’t buy alcohol and sit by the river or in certain Platzes (it’s a thing here).
They have also put whole counties on strict lockdown. It’s those on the border with Austria, France, the Netherlands, and Czech. That bugs me because I want them to close borders completely.
They call it lockdown light here.
But it is slowly working. We are in the middle of our second wave.
I suspect they will close your restaurants for the Christmas season. That’s just my guess. Just go with it. I’m annoyed, but I also have the option of Home Office. We are just waiting for the next stimulus and rent package and people are complaining about that now.
Just go with it????
Tell that to the restaurant owners and workers who will lose their businesses and jobs. They can barely make it now and they want to close them up at 10pm.
People have families to feed and we are not expected another stimulus anytime in the near future and unemployment is barely anything for some.
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Re: NYS orders new curfew on restaurants
Posted by Naturalmama
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DH & I decided today that Thanksgiving will be capped at eight people. The six people who live in my house and my in laws. My parents will go to my brothers house. Siblings all understood why Thanksgiving will be celebrated separate this year. We will do a zoom that night after dessert. Christmas is looking like it will be the same- ten people are less. We also decided we will stop going out to restaurants temporarily and having playdates with friends. My children will only see their grandparents and the children in their class, until further notice. I wish everyone would do something similar to prevent a full blown shutdown.
This is how I feel. We are going to my mom's for TG and there will be 10 people there.
We will not be dining out anymore & limit who we see & where we go.
My anxiety has been out of control today- just thinking of another shut down.
Clearly my anxiety is pretty bad too, as I just realized I have five children, which means seven people live in my house, not six. 
I am having anxiety today that reminds me of the anxiety I had in March. I am praying that we can avoid another full blown, spring shutdown, and if it does go that way, I pray it isn't three months this time.
We have to laugh at the small things LOL.
I told DH yesterday- I am scared of the virus, but I know we're doing our best to stay safe. I have anxiety over another shut down. It's just three of us here (Me, DH and DD (10)). DH works in an hospital and was working a lot during the early pandemic. I felt locked in my house working and trying to entertain/homeschool DD. I had a really rough time and yesterday broke down in an anxiety attack thinking it's going to happen again.
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Re: NYS orders new curfew on restaurants
Posted by FirstMate
I agree with a PP who said this is a "small flex" or a warning type of thing.
I 100% understand the curfew for bars. They don't want all these college kids coming home and hanging at the bars. Holiday party season is coming and they want a deterrent. I get it.
But I feel bad for restaurants. DH and I have been going out a lot lately but we aren't 100% comfortable with the inside dining yet so we have been taking 9-9:30 reservations. We like it because there less people and we aren't limited to how long we can sit at the table. I feel bad for these restaurants who have the late night crowd like us that will have to close earlier now. These restaurants are hurting so much to begin with.
We have to take what little steps we can to prevent a full blown shut down. Our kids need to stay in school.
As for private gatherings, they will never be able to enforce that unless you are pissing off your neighbor.
I wonder though what time the last reservation will be. Does closing at 10 mean the last diner out the door at 10? If so what is the latest reservation they will take?
Or does it mean nobody more allowed in at 10, but if you had a 9 pm res you can finish up?
So much grey area for them to figure out
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Re: NYS orders new curfew on restaurants
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by FirstMate
I agree with a PP who said this is a "small flex" or a warning type of thing.
I 100% understand the curfew for bars. They don't want all these college kids coming home and hanging at the bars. Holiday party season is coming and they want a deterrent. I get it.
But I feel bad for restaurants. DH and I have been going out a lot lately but we aren't 100% comfortable with the inside dining yet so we have been taking 9-9:30 reservations. We like it because there less people and we aren't limited to how long we can sit at the table. I feel bad for these restaurants who have the late night crowd like us that will have to close earlier now. These restaurants are hurting so much to begin with.
We have to take what little steps we can to prevent a full blown shut down. Our kids need to stay in school.
As for private gatherings, they will never be able to enforce that unless you are pissing off your neighbor.
I wonder though what time the last reservation will be. Does closing at 10 mean the last diner out the door at 10? If so what is the latest reservation they will take?
Or does it mean nobody more allowed in at 10, but if you had a 9 pm res you can finish up?
So much grey area for them to figure out
Don’t ask Coumo as he will have a briefing everyday to explain it in long detail. 
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Re: NYS orders new curfew on restaurants
Is there a connection to dining out and covid rising? I'm going to imagine with the contact tracing, it may be connected? Why else would you single out restaurants and bars - as if they aren't having a hard enough time as it is.
Could it be that those who are ok with eating inside restaurants are also ok with other riskier things and that could be it. not the dining out?
Also, I'd love to know how they plan on enforcing the 10 people rule in peoples homes.
We are keeping it small. 8 of us including 2 small children. Only the people in my "Covid Bubble" but I feel like those who want to live their lives, should. The people who are serious about covid can restrict themselves as always, like I do. I don't know - this guy is reaching here
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Re: NYS orders new curfew on restaurants
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Is there a connection to dining out and covid rising? I'm going to imagine with the contact tracing, it may be connected? Why else would you single out restaurants and bars - as if they aren't having a hard enough time as it is.
Could it be that those who are ok with eating inside restaurants are also ok with other riskier things and that could be it. not the dining out?
Also, I'd love to know how they plan on enforcing the 10 people rule in peoples homes.
We are keeping it small. 8 of us including 2 small children. Only the people in my "Covid Bubble" but I feel like those who want to live their lives, should. The people who are serious about covid can restrict themselves as always, like I do. I don't know - this guy is reaching here
The thing is- they aren't even targeting restaurants with a shut down. They are saying after 10 pm is the issue. The biggest crowds in a restaurant are between 6 and 9 though.
There is really no way to enforce the 10 person rule at your own private home.
I mean if you plan to have a raging party of 100 people in your yard, yeah I can see it.
But 12 people at your Thanksgiving dinner?
I am not sure cops can even enter your home without a warrant if you don't want them to.
I have to ask DH on that one.
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Re: NYS orders new curfew on restaurants
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Is there a connection to dining out and covid rising? I'm going to imagine with the contact tracing, it may be connected? Why else would you single out restaurants and bars - as if they aren't having a hard enough time as it is.
Could it be that those who are ok with eating inside restaurants are also ok with other riskier things and that could be it. not the dining out?
Also, I'd love to know how they plan on enforcing the 10 people rule in peoples homes.
We are keeping it small. 8 of us including 2 small children. Only the people in my "Covid Bubble" but I feel like those who want to live their lives, should. The people who are serious about covid can restrict themselves as always, like I do. I don't know - this guy is reaching here
The thing is- they aren't even targeting restaurants with a shut down. They are saying after 10 pm is the issue. The biggest crowds in a restaurant are between 6 and 9 though.
There is really no way to enforce the 10 person rule at your own private home.
I mean if you plan to have a raging party of 100 people in your yard, yeah I can see it.
But 12 people at your Thanksgiving dinner?
I am not sure cops can even enter your home without a warrant if you don't want them to.
I have to ask DH on that one.
Also aren’t restaurants already disenfecting tables once the customers leave? So why would they be of concern of high covid transmission?
Regarding the 10 ppl rule, what about households that have more than 10 ppl?
Btw as per this meme, it’s totally possible for cops to show up at ur house
*Forget it, I guess it’s impossible to post pics using photobucket anymore 
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Re: NYS orders new curfew on restaurants
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Is there a connection to dining out and covid rising? I'm going to imagine with the contact tracing, it may be connected? Why else would you single out restaurants and bars - as if they aren't having a hard enough time as it is.
Could it be that those who are ok with eating inside restaurants are also ok with other riskier things and that could be it. not the dining out?
Also, I'd love to know how they plan on enforcing the 10 people rule in peoples homes.
We are keeping it small. 8 of us including 2 small children. Only the people in my "Covid Bubble" but I feel like those who want to live their lives, should. The people who are serious about covid can restrict themselves as always, like I do. I don't know - this guy is reaching here
The thing is- they aren't even targeting restaurants with a shut down. They are saying after 10 pm is the issue. The biggest crowds in a restaurant are between 6 and 9 though.
There is really no way to enforce the 10 person rule at your own private home.
I mean if you plan to have a raging party of 100 people in your yard, yeah I can see it.
But 12 people at your Thanksgiving dinner?
I am not sure cops can even enter your home without a warrant if you don't want them to.
I have to ask DH on that one.
Also aren’t restaurants already disenfecting tables once the customers leave? So why would they be of concern of high covid transmission?
Regarding the 10 ppl rule, what about households that have more than 10 ppl?
He'll probably tell you to send half your family to an offsite location for the holidays.
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Re: NYS orders new curfew on restaurants
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Is there a connection to dining out and covid rising? I'm going to imagine with the contact tracing, it may be connected? Why else would you single out restaurants and bars - as if they aren't having a hard enough time as it is.
Could it be that those who are ok with eating inside restaurants are also ok with other riskier things and that could be it. not the dining out?
Also, I'd love to know how they plan on enforcing the 10 people rule in peoples homes.
We are keeping it small. 8 of us including 2 small children. Only the people in my "Covid Bubble" but I feel like those who want to live their lives, should. The people who are serious about covid can restrict themselves as always, like I do. I don't know - this guy is reaching here
The thing is- they aren't even targeting restaurants with a shut down. They are saying after 10 pm is the issue. The biggest crowds in a restaurant are between 6 and 9 though.
There is really no way to enforce the 10 person rule at your own private home.
I mean if you plan to have a raging party of 100 people in your yard, yeah I can see it.
But 12 people at your Thanksgiving dinner?
I am not sure cops can even enter your home without a warrant if you don't want them to.
I have to ask DH on that one.
Also aren’t restaurants already disenfecting tables once the customers leave? So why would they be of concern of high covid transmission?
Regarding the 10 ppl rule, what about households that have more than 10 ppl?
He'll probably tell you to send half your family to an offsite location for the holidays.
Will he be proving an stimulus check and a turkey too?
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Re: NYS orders new curfew on restaurants
Posted by PitterPatter11
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Did things change at some point? I thought further measurements were not gonna happen unless we reached to 5%, no?
5% was for school closing.
With that said, cases have increased exponentially in the last week. Our daily positivity was around 1-1.5%, we’ve been right below or above 3% for the last few days. Something needs to be done to help curb the spread.
5% was for schools to open - 9% is for them to close again.
ETA -It makes no sense though as Covid isn't spreading in schools but half the school is quarantined if someone tests positive. In our district they are 6 ft apart and masked except when eating (which is also 6 ft apart). DS 1's school has 20 teachers in quarantine so he's full remote until right before Thanksgiving... He'll maybe get to go back 2 days before they shut down until January.
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Re: NYS orders new curfew on restaurants
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Is there a connection to dining out and covid rising? I'm going to imagine with the contact tracing, it may be connected? Why else would you single out restaurants and bars - as if they aren't having a hard enough time as it is.
Could it be that those who are ok with eating inside restaurants are also ok with other riskier things and that could be it. not the dining out?
Also, I'd love to know how they plan on enforcing the 10 people rule in peoples homes.
We are keeping it small. 8 of us including 2 small children. Only the people in my "Covid Bubble" but I feel like those who want to live their lives, should. The people who are serious about covid can restrict themselves as always, like I do. I don't know - this guy is reaching here
The thing is- they aren't even targeting restaurants with a shut down. They are saying after 10 pm is the issue. The biggest crowds in a restaurant are between 6 and 9 though.
There is really no way to enforce the 10 person rule at your own private home.
I mean if you plan to have a raging party of 100 people in your yard, yeah I can see it.
But 12 people at your Thanksgiving dinner?
I am not sure cops can even enter your home without a warrant if you don't want them to.
I have to ask DH on that one.
Also aren’t restaurants already disenfecting tables once the customers leave? So why would they be of concern of high covid transmission?
Regarding the 10 ppl rule, what about households that have more than 10 ppl?
He'll probably tell you to send half your family to an offsite location for the holidays.
He said households of over 10 are exempt...
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Re: NYS orders new curfew on restaurants
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by klingklang77
They are following what they are doing over here. Next you will have an earlier curfew. Then they will close restaurants (they are closed for a month here, for now).
They also started with the 10 for private gatherings. Now it is 5, I believe, but only from two households. There is no way to check on this, but people follow the rules pretty much here. Hence, the reason why people stand at red man crossing lights. There are fines that nobody wants, so I guess that’s why. I saw someone get fined the other day at the main station for not wearing a mask (it was 200 Euro).
They have had a curfew on alcohol sales since the summer so people don’t buy alcohol and sit by the river or in certain Platzes (it’s a thing here).
They have also put whole counties on strict lockdown. It’s those on the border with Austria, France, the Netherlands, and Czech. That bugs me because I want them to close borders completely.
They call it lockdown light here.
But it is slowly working. We are in the middle of our second wave.
I suspect they will close your restaurants for the Christmas season. That’s just my guess. Just go with it. I’m annoyed, but I also have the option of Home Office. We are just waiting for the next stimulus and rent package and people are complaining about that now.
Just go with it????
Tell that to the restaurant owners and workers who will lose their businesses and jobs. They can barely make it now and they want to close them up at 10pm.
People have families to feed and we are not expected another stimulus anytime in the near future and unemployment is barely anything for some.
Because the German government takes care of its people. If our government gave a crap and behaved like every other first world country, we would take care of our people. Instead we bail out corporations who don't pay taxes and burden the middle class with tax cuts for the wealthy.
So those businesses that are affected by a lockdown, and anyone who is impacted, should just pull themselves up by their bootstraps. It's the American way right?
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klingklang77
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Re: NYS orders new curfew on restaurants
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by klingklang77
They are following what they are doing over here. Next you will have an earlier curfew. Then they will close restaurants (they are closed for a month here, for now).
They also started with the 10 for private gatherings. Now it is 5, I believe, but only from two households. There is no way to check on this, but people follow the rules pretty much here. Hence, the reason why people stand at red man crossing lights. There are fines that nobody wants, so I guess that’s why. I saw someone get fined the other day at the main station for not wearing a mask (it was 200 Euro).
They have had a curfew on alcohol sales since the summer so people don’t buy alcohol and sit by the river or in certain Platzes (it’s a thing here).
They have also put whole counties on strict lockdown. It’s those on the border with Austria, France, the Netherlands, and Czech. That bugs me because I want them to close borders completely.
They call it lockdown light here.
But it is slowly working. We are in the middle of our second wave.
I suspect they will close your restaurants for the Christmas season. That’s just my guess. Just go with it. I’m annoyed, but I also have the option of Home Office. We are just waiting for the next stimulus and rent package and people are complaining about that now.
Just go with it????
Tell that to the restaurant owners and workers who will lose their businesses and jobs. They can barely make it now and they want to close them up at 10pm.
People have families to feed and we are not expected another stimulus anytime in the near future and unemployment is barely anything for some.
Fine, then don’t go with it and expect a full lockdown. It is your choice. But a light lockdown is going to happen and there is nothing you can do. You can always order take out everyday to support the restaurants.
It’s not really my problem that unemployment sucks in your country. The whole system there needs to be restructured, but based on your other posts, it seems you aren’t willing to pay more in taxes for that. You also said that you have been doing well these past few years, so how about you help out more. Oh yeah, you won’t because it is only about you. Guess what? It isn’t.
The sooner they get the lockdowns done with the virus will not overwhelm hospitals, as we are experiencing here. Restaurant workers will gather hospital bills because healthcare is not easy to get in restaurants in the US (I worked in the industry in the US for over 10 years). Oh that’s right. You don’t want affordable healthcare.
Until you are willing to support a system for unemployment, which has many tiers here, then please sit down.
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Re: NYS orders new curfew on restaurants
Posted by ali120206
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Is there a connection to dining out and covid rising? I'm going to imagine with the contact tracing, it may be connected? Why else would you single out restaurants and bars - as if they aren't having a hard enough time as it is.
Could it be that those who are ok with eating inside restaurants are also ok with other riskier things and that could be it. not the dining out?
Also, I'd love to know how they plan on enforcing the 10 people rule in peoples homes.
We are keeping it small. 8 of us including 2 small children. Only the people in my "Covid Bubble" but I feel like those who want to live their lives, should. The people who are serious about covid can restrict themselves as always, like I do. I don't know - this guy is reaching here
The thing is- they aren't even targeting restaurants with a shut down. They are saying after 10 pm is the issue. The biggest crowds in a restaurant are between 6 and 9 though.
There is really no way to enforce the 10 person rule at your own private home.
I mean if you plan to have a raging party of 100 people in your yard, yeah I can see it.
But 12 people at your Thanksgiving dinner?
I am not sure cops can even enter your home without a warrant if you don't want them to.
I have to ask DH on that one.
Also aren’t restaurants already disenfecting tables once the customers leave? So why would they be of concern of high covid transmission?
Regarding the 10 ppl rule, what about households that have more than 10 ppl?
He'll probably tell you to send half your family to an offsite location for the holidays.
He said households of over 10 are exempt...
LOL. Well yeah, I'd hope so...
Otherwise its like Sophie's choice on who gets to stay and which kids you you have to give the boot to.
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Re: NYS orders new curfew on restaurants
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by klingklang77
They are following what they are doing over here. Next you will have an earlier curfew. Then they will close restaurants (they are closed for a month here, for now).
They also started with the 10 for private gatherings. Now it is 5, I believe, but only from two households. There is no way to check on this, but people follow the rules pretty much here. Hence, the reason why people stand at red man crossing lights. There are fines that nobody wants, so I guess that’s why. I saw someone get fined the other day at the main station for not wearing a mask (it was 200 Euro).
They have had a curfew on alcohol sales since the summer so people don’t buy alcohol and sit by the river or in certain Platzes (it’s a thing here).
They have also put whole counties on strict lockdown. It’s those on the border with Austria, France, the Netherlands, and Czech. That bugs me because I want them to close borders completely.
They call it lockdown light here.
But it is slowly working. We are in the middle of our second wave.
I suspect they will close your restaurants for the Christmas season. That’s just my guess. Just go with it. I’m annoyed, but I also have the option of Home Office. We are just waiting for the next stimulus and rent package and people are complaining about that now.
Just go with it????
Tell that to the restaurant owners and workers who will lose their businesses and jobs. They can barely make it now and they want to close them up at 10pm.
People have families to feed and we are not expected another stimulus anytime in the near future and unemployment is barely anything for some.
Because the German government takes care of its people. If our government gave a crap and behaved like every other first world country, we would take care of our people. Instead we bail out corporations who don't pay taxes and burden the middle class with tax cuts for the wealthy.
So those businesses that are affected by a lockdown, and anyone who is impacted, should just pull themselves up by their bootstraps. It's the American way right?
Thank you! 
Restaurant workers have a type of furlough, then there is unemployment 1, then unemployment 2. If the restaurant has to close, they are protected quite well. You don’t see that in the US. Even freelancers have been protected and our first stimulus was over $5000. From there they had a special situation for unemployment 2. The stimulus in the US was a joke. But whatever VB would never vote for a system like that.
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Re: NYS orders new curfew on restaurants
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by klingklang77
They are following what they are doing over here. Next you will have an earlier curfew. Then they will close restaurants (they are closed for a month here, for now).
They also started with the 10 for private gatherings. Now it is 5, I believe, but only from two households. There is no way to check on this, but people follow the rules pretty much here. Hence, the reason why people stand at red man crossing lights. There are fines that nobody wants, so I guess that’s why. I saw someone get fined the other day at the main station for not wearing a mask (it was 200 Euro).
They have had a curfew on alcohol sales since the summer so people don’t buy alcohol and sit by the river or in certain Platzes (it’s a thing here).
They have also put whole counties on strict lockdown. It’s those on the border with Austria, France, the Netherlands, and Czech. That bugs me because I want them to close borders completely.
They call it lockdown light here.
But it is slowly working. We are in the middle of our second wave.
I suspect they will close your restaurants for the Christmas season. That’s just my guess. Just go with it. I’m annoyed, but I also have the option of Home Office. We are just waiting for the next stimulus and rent package and people are complaining about that now.
Just go with it????
Tell that to the restaurant owners and workers who will lose their businesses and jobs. They can barely make it now and they want to close them up at 10pm.
People have families to feed and we are not expected another stimulus anytime in the near future and unemployment is barely anything for some.
Fine, then don’t go with it and expect a full lockdown. It is your choice. But a light lockdown is going to happen and there is nothing you can do. You can always order take out everyday to support the restaurants.
It’s not really my problem that unemployment sucks in your country. The whole system there needs to be restructured, but based on your other posts, it seems you aren’t willing to pay more in taxes for that. You also said that you have been doing well these past few years, so how about you help out more. Oh yeah, you won’t because it is only about you. Guess what? It isn’t.
The sooner they get the lockdowns done with the virus will not overwhelm hospitals, as we are experiencing here. Restaurant workers will gather hospital bills because healthcare is not easy to get in restaurants in the US (I worked in the industry in the US for over 10 years). Oh that’s right. You don’t want affordable healthcare.
Until you are willing to support a system for unemployment, which has many tiers here, then please sit down.
You do realize that I have people very close to me that will and are out of jobs because of all of this. In 5 days they claim we went from 1%, which we had been for months, can’t even tell you when we were at the 3.8% they say we were 3 days ago. There is no need for another lockdown.
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Re: NYS orders new curfew on restaurants
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by ali120206
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Is there a connection to dining out and covid rising? I'm going to imagine with the contact tracing, it may be connected? Why else would you single out restaurants and bars - as if they aren't having a hard enough time as it is.
Could it be that those who are ok with eating inside restaurants are also ok with other riskier things and that could be it. not the dining out?
Also, I'd love to know how they plan on enforcing the 10 people rule in peoples homes.
We are keeping it small. 8 of us including 2 small children. Only the people in my "Covid Bubble" but I feel like those who want to live their lives, should. The people who are serious about covid can restrict themselves as always, like I do. I don't know - this guy is reaching here
The thing is- they aren't even targeting restaurants with a shut down. They are saying after 10 pm is the issue. The biggest crowds in a restaurant are between 6 and 9 though.
There is really no way to enforce the 10 person rule at your own private home.
I mean if you plan to have a raging party of 100 people in your yard, yeah I can see it.
But 12 people at your Thanksgiving dinner?
I am not sure cops can even enter your home without a warrant if you don't want them to.
I have to ask DH on that one.
Also aren’t restaurants already disenfecting tables once the customers leave? So why would they be of concern of high covid transmission?
Regarding the 10 ppl rule, what about households that have more than 10 ppl?
He'll probably tell you to send half your family to an offsite location for the holidays.
He said households of over 10 are exempt...
LOL. Well yeah, I'd hope so...
Otherwise its like Sophie's choice on who gets to stay and which kids you you have to give the boot to.
I guess you could stick some out in the cold outdoors like CA is doing. Bringing their own plates and utensils. Then kick them out after 2 hours.
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| Posted 11/12/20 9:39 PM |
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klingklang77
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Re: NYS orders new curfew on restaurants
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by ali120206
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Is there a connection to dining out and covid rising? I'm going to imagine with the contact tracing, it may be connected? Why else would you single out restaurants and bars - as if they aren't having a hard enough time as it is.
Could it be that those who are ok with eating inside restaurants are also ok with other riskier things and that could be it. not the dining out?
Also, I'd love to know how they plan on enforcing the 10 people rule in peoples homes.
We are keeping it small. 8 of us including 2 small children. Only the people in my "Covid Bubble" but I feel like those who want to live their lives, should. The people who are serious about covid can restrict themselves as always, like I do. I don't know - this guy is reaching here
The thing is- they aren't even targeting restaurants with a shut down. They are saying after 10 pm is the issue. The biggest crowds in a restaurant are between 6 and 9 though.
There is really no way to enforce the 10 person rule at your own private home.
I mean if you plan to have a raging party of 100 people in your yard, yeah I can see it.
But 12 people at your Thanksgiving dinner?
I am not sure cops can even enter your home without a warrant if you don't want them to.
I have to ask DH on that one.
Also aren’t restaurants already disenfecting tables once the customers leave? So why would they be of concern of high covid transmission?
Regarding the 10 ppl rule, what about households that have more than 10 ppl?
He'll probably tell you to send half your family to an offsite location for the holidays.
He said households of over 10 are exempt...
LOL. Well yeah, I'd hope so...
Otherwise its like Sophie's choice on who gets to stay and which kids you you have to give the boot to.
That’s a ridiculous comparison. The rule isn’t for households of over 10 people. It is for having gatherings over 10 people from different households.
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| Posted 11/12/20 9:41 PM |
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klingklang77
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Re: NYS orders new curfew on restaurants
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by klingklang77
They are following what they are doing over here. Next you will have an earlier curfew. Then they will close restaurants (they are closed for a month here, for now).
They also started with the 10 for private gatherings. Now it is 5, I believe, but only from two households. There is no way to check on this, but people follow the rules pretty much here. Hence, the reason why people stand at red man crossing lights. There are fines that nobody wants, so I guess that’s why. I saw someone get fined the other day at the main station for not wearing a mask (it was 200 Euro).
They have had a curfew on alcohol sales since the summer so people don’t buy alcohol and sit by the river or in certain Platzes (it’s a thing here).
They have also put whole counties on strict lockdown. It’s those on the border with Austria, France, the Netherlands, and Czech. That bugs me because I want them to close borders completely.
They call it lockdown light here.
But it is slowly working. We are in the middle of our second wave.
I suspect they will close your restaurants for the Christmas season. That’s just my guess. Just go with it. I’m annoyed, but I also have the option of Home Office. We are just waiting for the next stimulus and rent package and people are complaining about that now.
Just go with it????
Tell that to the restaurant owners and workers who will lose their businesses and jobs. They can barely make it now and they want to close them up at 10pm.
People have families to feed and we are not expected another stimulus anytime in the near future and unemployment is barely anything for some.
Fine, then don’t go with it and expect a full lockdown. It is your choice. But a light lockdown is going to happen and there is nothing you can do. You can always order take out everyday to support the restaurants.
It’s not really my problem that unemployment sucks in your country. The whole system there needs to be restructured, but based on your other posts, it seems you aren’t willing to pay more in taxes for that. You also said that you have been doing well these past few years, so how about you help out more. Oh yeah, you won’t because it is only about you. Guess what? It isn’t.
The sooner they get the lockdowns done with the virus will not overwhelm hospitals, as we are experiencing here. Restaurant workers will gather hospital bills because healthcare is not easy to get in restaurants in the US (I worked in the industry in the US for over 10 years). Oh that’s right. You don’t want affordable healthcare.
Until you are willing to support a system for unemployment, which has many tiers here, then please sit down.
You do realize that I have people very close to me that will and are out of jobs because of all of this. In 5 days they claim we went from 1%, which we had been for months, can’t even tell you when we were at the 3.8% they say we were 3 days ago. There is no need for another lockdown.
I do not need to realize anything. It’s sad they will be out of jobs. However, you support a system that does not take care of these workers and you are part of the problem.
I don’t understand your percentages as we don’t do that here for Corona. It is done by number of people pro 100.000 residents.
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| Posted 11/12/20 9:46 PM |
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Re: NYS orders new curfew on restaurants
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Is there a connection to dining out and covid rising? I'm going to imagine with the contact tracing, it may be connected? Why else would you single out restaurants and bars - as if they aren't having a hard enough time as it is.
Could it be that those who are ok with eating inside restaurants are also ok with other riskier things and that could be it. not the dining out?
Also, I'd love to know how they plan on enforcing the 10 people rule in peoples homes.
We are keeping it small. 8 of us including 2 small children. Only the people in my "Covid Bubble" but I feel like those who want to live their lives, should. The people who are serious about covid can restrict themselves as always, like I do. I don't know - this guy is reaching here
The thing is- they aren't even targeting restaurants with a shut down. They are saying after 10 pm is the issue. The biggest crowds in a restaurant are between 6 and 9 though.
There is really no way to enforce the 10 person rule at your own private home.
I mean if you plan to have a raging party of 100 people in your yard, yeah I can see it.
But 12 people at your Thanksgiving dinner?
I am not sure cops can even enter your home without a warrant if you don't want them to.
I have to ask DH on that one.
I think the enforcement for the 10 person limit in a private home will be fines imposed after a positive case and contact tracing.
I was at a restaurant a month or so ago and ate outside. You had to go inside for the restroom and this particular restaurant was not adhering to any social distancing inside.
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| Posted 11/12/20 9:47 PM |
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NervousNell
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Re: NYS orders new curfew on restaurants
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by ali120206
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Is there a connection to dining out and covid rising? I'm going to imagine with the contact tracing, it may be connected? Why else would you single out restaurants and bars - as if they aren't having a hard enough time as it is.
Could it be that those who are ok with eating inside restaurants are also ok with other riskier things and that could be it. not the dining out?
Also, I'd love to know how they plan on enforcing the 10 people rule in peoples homes.
We are keeping it small. 8 of us including 2 small children. Only the people in my "Covid Bubble" but I feel like those who want to live their lives, should. The people who are serious about covid can restrict themselves as always, like I do. I don't know - this guy is reaching here
The thing is- they aren't even targeting restaurants with a shut down. They are saying after 10 pm is the issue. The biggest crowds in a restaurant are between 6 and 9 though.
There is really no way to enforce the 10 person rule at your own private home.
I mean if you plan to have a raging party of 100 people in your yard, yeah I can see it.
But 12 people at your Thanksgiving dinner?
I am not sure cops can even enter your home without a warrant if you don't want them to.
I have to ask DH on that one.
Also aren’t restaurants already disenfecting tables once the customers leave? So why would they be of concern of high covid transmission?
Regarding the 10 ppl rule, what about households that have more than 10 ppl?
He'll probably tell you to send half your family to an offsite location for the holidays.
He said households of over 10 are exempt...
LOL. Well yeah, I'd hope so...
Otherwise its like Sophie's choice on who gets to stay and which kids you you have to give the boot to.
That’s a ridiculous comparison. The rule isn’t for households of over 10 people. It is for having gatherings over 10 people from different households.
I know... it was a joke Relax.
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| Posted 11/12/20 9:53 PM |
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NervousNell
Just another chapter in life..
Member since 11/09 54921 total posts
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Re: NYS orders new curfew on restaurants
Posted by CookiePuss
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Is there a connection to dining out and covid rising? I'm going to imagine with the contact tracing, it may be connected? Why else would you single out restaurants and bars - as if they aren't having a hard enough time as it is.
Could it be that those who are ok with eating inside restaurants are also ok with other riskier things and that could be it. not the dining out?
Also, I'd love to know how they plan on enforcing the 10 people rule in peoples homes.
We are keeping it small. 8 of us including 2 small children. Only the people in my "Covid Bubble" but I feel like those who want to live their lives, should. The people who are serious about covid can restrict themselves as always, like I do. I don't know - this guy is reaching here
The thing is- they aren't even targeting restaurants with a shut down. They are saying after 10 pm is the issue. The biggest crowds in a restaurant are between 6 and 9 though.
There is really no way to enforce the 10 person rule at your own private home.
I mean if you plan to have a raging party of 100 people in your yard, yeah I can see it.
But 12 people at your Thanksgiving dinner?
I am not sure cops can even enter your home without a warrant if you don't want them to.
I have to ask DH on that one.
I think the enforcement for the 10 person limit in a private home will be fines imposed after a positive case and contact tracing.
I was at a restaurant a month or so ago and ate outside. You had to go inside for the restroom and this particular restaurant was not adhering to any social distancing inside.
True, but I think if you are breaking the rules, you would be hush hush on the contract tracing when asked.
"Oh, I wasn't at a gathering...." 
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