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Goldi0218
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Re: Oh ladies- I can't- I just CAN'T!!
OOPS - didnt mean to repost
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Re: Oh ladies- I can't- I just CAN'T!!
Posted by Goldi0218
A man needs to know that his wife is sexually satisfied by him.
Actually, I think the whole neighborhood may know this.
HAHA ain't THAT the truth!
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| Posted 8/17/07 11:59 AM |
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SweetestOfPeas
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Re: Oh ladies- I can't- I just CAN'T!!
Posted by cpanyc
The divorce rate is now what - 50%? higher than that? Many people do not have good examples of how to be "married". Also, in today's society it is all about me me me. So what is so wrong about a book on how to take care of your husband?
I don't know Dr. Laura or anything about her. If the book helps some people that is good, for others who don't need it you'll save $20.
is there a book for men on how to take care of your wife? I hate the double standards!
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| Posted 8/17/07 12:02 PM |
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GioiaMia
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Re: Oh ladies- I can't- I just CAN'T!!
Posted by MrsPJB2007
and the whole notion about whats the harm in reading a book to save a marriage---if you need a BOOK to help your marriage you have many more issues at hand that a book won't help
i dont think anyone is reading this to SAVE their marriage ( or engagement in my case ) i think ANY book that offers advice on how to improve an aspect of your life CAN be helpful. You don't have to agree with all of it. . . but if you take away a few things, apply them, and they make your life a little better - I definitely don't see the harm!
btw- I didn't know about all of those issues in her past. I wish I had read the book before I found out though - so I could have read it more objectively!
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| Posted 8/17/07 12:09 PM |
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QuoteTheRaven424
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Re: Oh ladies- I can't- I just CAN'T!!
i think a certain clip is being cued up....
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| Posted 8/17/07 12:11 PM |
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Emily
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Re: Oh ladies- I can't- I just CAN'T!!
Chapter 1: Teach your DH to cook
Chapter 10: Congrats on reforming him into the man you want him to be!!
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| Posted 8/17/07 12:11 PM |
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2PreciousBlessings
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Re: Oh ladies- I can't- I just CAN'T!!
Posted by SweetestOfPeas
Posted by cpanyc
The divorce rate is now what - 50%? higher than that? Many people do not have good examples of how to be "married". Also, in today's society it is all about me me me. So what is so wrong about a book on how to take care of your husband?
I don't know Dr. Laura or anything about her. If the book helps some people that is good, for others who don't need it you'll save $20.
is there a book for men on how to take care of your wife? I hate the double standards!
I think she wrote these books as well. 10 Stupid Things Men Do To Mess Up Their Lives and Woman Power.
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SweetestOfPeas
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Re: Oh ladies- I can't- I just CAN'T!!
Posted by BellaPaige
Posted by SweetestOfPeas
Posted by cpanyc
The divorce rate is now what - 50%? higher than that? Many people do not have good examples of how to be "married". Also, in today's society it is all about me me me. So what is so wrong about a book on how to take care of your husband?
I don't know Dr. Laura or anything about her. If the book helps some people that is good, for others who don't need it you'll save $20.
is there a book for men on how to take care of your wife? I hate the double standards!
I think she wrote these books as well. 10 Stupid Things Men Do To Mess Up Their Lives and Woman Power.
I wonder how many copies sold
eta: TO MEN!
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MrsS2005
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Re: Oh ladies- I can't- I just CAN'T!!
Posted by SweetestOfPeas
Posted by Tilde
Posted by MsMBV
Posted by Tilde
Thanks for proving my points girls! Feminism ISN'T about each woman making her own choices. It is about every woman making the SAME choices. I was right all along!
Am I the only one who sees this as degrading to the men as well? You guys can argue feminism all you want, but at the crux of the issue is that the author makes men out to be mindless idiots that only respond to sex & food.....sorry I have way too much respect for my DH to see him as something so shallow.
i understand what you are saying. . . and i know it doesnt apply to all men. . . but for SOME men, (including my FH) if i provided the sex and food . . . he would be pretty damn happy!
how about intelligent conversation and challenging him intellectually every now and then?
 Personally, I can't imagine being in a lifelong relationship without intellectually stimulating conversation.
This whole idea of serving the man and making sure his needs are met without any consideration of the woman's needs is not for me. If DH wanted someone to cook, clean, and pick up after him without lifting a finger, he could've lived with his mom. I'm not his maid, I'm his wife and his equal.
I have no problem with women who choose to be in traditional roles, but I don't agree with the idea that a woman is there to serve her husband and put his needs above all else. Where is the equality? Why do women need to put in all of the effort to maintain a happy relationship?
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| Posted 8/17/07 12:33 PM |
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GoldenRod
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Re: Oh ladies- I can't- I just CAN'T!!
Posted by SweetestOfPeas
Posted by cpanyc
The divorce rate is now what - 50%? higher than that? Many people do not have good examples of how to be "married". Also, in today's society it is all about me me me. So what is so wrong about a book on how to take care of your husband?
I don't know Dr. Laura or anything about her. If the book helps some people that is good, for others who don't need it you'll save $20.
is there a book for men on how to take care of your wife? I hate the double standards!
We don't need a book. Just being a DH is all we need to do to take care of our DWs....  
I've found a lot of this type of thought and practice to be insulting to both the woman and the man. I didn't marry a mindless servant, and I don't want to be treated like a mindless, fragile vase that has to be reassured every 5 minutes, and can't do anything by myself.
We happen to fall into primarily "traditional" roles, but that's just because we chose to do the things we are good at, and/or don't mind doing. It's definitely not a gender-based decision as to who does what.
DW was much better at being pregnant than me, so she took that role. 
I've always made more money than her, so it made sense for her to stay home and take care of the kids, as opposed to me. She learned to cook when she was very young, and she is good at it. I never really learned to cook, so again, it's just logical.
I vacuum, and DW takes the garbage out. It just worked out that way.
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GioiaMia
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Re: Oh ladies- I can't- I just CAN'T!!
Posted by MrsS2005
Personally, I can't imagine being in a lifelong relationship without intellectually stimulating conversation.
This whole idea of serving the man and making sure his needs are met without any consideration of the woman's needs is not for me. If DH wanted someone to cook, clean, and pick up after him without lifting a finger, he could've lived with his mom. I'm not his maid, I'm his wife and his equal.
I have no problem with women who choose to be in traditional roles, but I don't agree with the idea that a woman is there to serve her husband and put his needs above all else. Where is the equality? Why do women need to put in all of the effort to maintain a happy relationship?
I feel that is just YOUR interpretation of it. I DON'T feel that the man can just sit around. I am not saying anything about the man's role in all of this, actually!
I DO believe that a wife SHOULD put her husband's needs before her own but ONLY when the husband is doing the same!!
Yes, this book only applies to the woman's role. However, I don't think that men are supposed to be sitting around doing nothing. . . they just have seperate, equal and just as demanding obligations in the relationship.
AND I feel if a woman DOES follow some of the advice that Dr Laura gives . . . that the husband will be more willing to fulfill his roles.
And as for the intellectual conversation. . .please don't think that FH and I just stare at each other and drool all day. I just mean, that we are never all that serious. . .our relationship just isn't like that . . .
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| Posted 8/17/07 12:39 PM |
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vmac
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Re: Oh ladies- I can't- I just CAN'T!!
Posted by Meaghan729
here's anothe doozy:
"Chart my menstrual cycle and remind myself on PMS days that what I'm feeling isn't true and to keep my mouth shut and let it pass."
if DH can't live with my PMS, than thats his problem
this kills me too!!!
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Maathy317
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Re: Oh ladies- I can't- I just CAN'T!!
I just read what was posted on LIW. While I don't agree with all of it, I have lived by a good deal of it. If you read it objectively, some of it makes a great deal of sense. I don't read it as a matter of treating your husband as if he were "king of the castle" and constantly stroking his ego. I read it as letting him know that he is important and that what he does matters. Some of it was just plain stupid (tracking for PMS ). Other parts were right on the money. My children and others have always known that my husband came first and foremost. I, also, have said that without him we would not have the family that we do. That doesn't mean that I have not worked just as hard as he has over the years. It just means that my life would not be what it is. I would not have the children I do. I would not live in the home I do. I would not have all that I do. You could call me a "traditional wife" although I'm not quite sure what that means. If it means that most of what I read I have lived by, then I guess
that's what I am. After 31 years and still going strong, I figure how wrong could I have been. I believe that each
marriage/relationship is different and the people involved need to deal with that as they see fit. However, something just shouldn't be dismissed out of hand and the people interested in it ridiculed. To each his own. That's what makes the world go 'round.
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Goldi0218
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Re: Oh ladies- I can't- I just CAN'T!!
Again, I think it is insulting to women that someone thinks they need a reference book to have a happy marriage.
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GioiaMia
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Re: Oh ladies- I can't- I just CAN'T!!
Posted by Goldi0218
Again, I think it is insulting to women that someone thinks they need a reference book to have a happy marriage.
okay maybe you don't agree with THIS book. . .but you don't think that there are some people out there that could benefit from ANY type of book on marriage? male or female?
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| Posted 8/17/07 12:46 PM |
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Goldi0218
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Re: Oh ladies- I can't- I just CAN'T!!
Posted by Tilde
Posted by Goldi0218
Again, I think it is insulting to women that someone thinks they need a reference book to have a happy marriage.
okay maybe you don't agree with THIS book. . .but you don't think that there are some people out there that could benefit from ANY type of book on marriage? male or female?
I think that marriage is partnership and one person reading a book isn't going to solve all the problems. If there are problems, then BOTH people have to work interactively to solve them.
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GioiaMia
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Re: Oh ladies- I can't- I just CAN'T!!
Posted by Goldi0218
Posted by Tilde
Posted by Goldi0218
Again, I think it is insulting to women that someone thinks they need a reference book to have a happy marriage.
okay maybe you don't agree with THIS book. . .but you don't think that there are some people out there that could benefit from ANY type of book on marriage? male or female?
I think that marriage is partnership and one person reading a book isn't going to solve all the problems. If there are problems, then BOTH people have to work interactively to solve them.
ok good point
touche
lol
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Goldi0218
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Re: Oh ladies- I can't- I just CAN'T!!
AND...
ETA: I am not necessarily opposed to the content in the book, I am more offended that Dr. L thought that a woman couldn't figure some of this stuff out on her own.
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I couldnt keep my purty lil mouth shut - I had to post a response....
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saraH
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Re: Oh ladies- I can't- I just CAN'T!!
is Dr Laura married?
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| Posted 8/17/07 12:57 PM |
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reggie
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Re: Oh ladies- I can't- I just CAN'T!!
Posted by Chai77
"Dr" Laura is a hypocritical puritanical wench. Apparently a degree in physiology entitles you to judge everyone else's life, I didn't realize that.
Don't even aggrevate yourself by reading such posts, it's ridiculous nonsense!
She is an idiot. I believe she was divorced and then got remarried. Wonder what led to the first divorce?
Howard Stern used to always make fun of her idiotic ways.
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Re: Oh ladies- I can't- I just CAN'T!!
You know when I first started reading it I though it was a joke - I kept waiting for the punch line!
I think this approach can sometimes backfire. I would say her methods describe my parents relationship quite well and while I love my father very much he has quite the sense of entitlement. My father expects certain things of my mother because my mother got him used to bringing him his food etc. (my brother is now the same way).
Frankly, my dad treats my mother pretty badly. So just because you treat someone like that does not mean they will reciprocate. Just a word of warning...
but then again - traditionally there were lots of miserable women...
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Re: Oh ladies- I can't- I just CAN'T!!
Posted by stickydust
So just because you treat someone like that does not mean they will reciprocate. Just a word of warning...
but then again - traditionally there were lots of miserable women...
Isn't that the sad truth.
And to go off on a little tangent here, I truly believe that the reason the divorce rate is higher than years ago is that women are more able and inclined to live "alone and happy" rather than married & miserable. Just my own observation.
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Re: Oh ladies- I can't- I just CAN'T!!
Posted by MsMBV
Posted by Meaghan729
here's anothe doozy:
"Chart my menstrual cycle and remind myself on PMS days that what I'm feeling isn't true and to keep my mouth shut and let it pass."
if DH can't live with my PMS, than thats his problem
Yeah I cannot even touch that one. It is bad enough tracking a cycle for 7 years to become PG, now I have to track it too see if DH is too delicate to deal with PMS?
Seriously - if I have to deal with it - so does he!!!
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