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pinkandblue
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Re: Pet store in Sunrise Mall
IF SHE DONT BUY THEM SOMEONE ELSE WILL....GET REAL PLEEZE
yeah, cause that is a rational reason for supporting it
have a nice day, I am DONE
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aprw5
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Re: Pet store in Sunrise Mall
Posted by stephanief
IF SHE DONT BUY THEM SOMEONE ELSE WILL....GET REAL PLEEZE
yeah, cause that is a rational reason for supporting it
have a nice day, I am DONE
we've heard that before...and u came back!
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| Posted 1/17/08 10:24 AM |
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karacg
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Re: Pet store in Sunrise Mall
Posted by moms3
Posted by karacg
Posted by Kitkat
Hello. I am just slightly educating my friend on puppy mills...but there is only so much I know. She fell in love with a chuwawa at the Sunrise Mall, in "The Pet Company". I've never been there before. She said that they have signs that say some animals are from NSAL and that the store is really clean. Also she read that not all pet stores are puppy mill dogs. Do you know anything about this store? Thanks!
To answer the OP - who has only good intentions - I would encourage her to look into a breeder or a rescue org.
I know people have already answered that question but it may have gotten lost in all the (ahem) "hoopla".
Good for you for helping your friend!!
Yes she is an AWESOME friend who has told me how she feels, but also told me she will love me and my puppy no matter where it comes from!
Didn't realize you were the friend til I went back an read everything once again.
I am so sorry you have decided to put blinders on.
And the crusade continues....
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| Posted 1/17/08 10:34 AM |
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moms3
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Re: Pet store in Sunrise Mall
Posted by karacg
Posted by moms3
Posted by karacg
Posted by Kitkat
Hello. I am just slightly educating my friend on puppy mills...but there is only so much I know. She fell in love with a chuwawa at the Sunrise Mall, in "The Pet Company". I've never been there before. She said that they have signs that say some animals are from NSAL and that the store is really clean. Also she read that not all pet stores are puppy mill dogs. Do you know anything about this store? Thanks!
To answer the OP - who has only good intentions - I would encourage her to look into a breeder or a rescue org.
I know people have already answered that question but it may have gotten lost in all the (ahem) "hoopla".
Good for you for helping your friend!!
Yes she is an AWESOME friend who has told me how she feels, but also told me she will love me and my puppy no matter where it comes from!
Didn't realize you were the friend til I went back an read everything once again.
I am so sorry you have decided to put blinders on.
And the crusade continues....
Why don't you try reading everything again!...I clearly stated I have now been educated about puppy mills, I do not have blinders on! Maybe this puppy came from a puppy mill, maybe not. I have actually done some research outside of the internet, anyone else?! You just believe everything you read and see?! I also said, If I end up not getting this particular puppy that I LOVE (does anyone get that?!) I would go elsewhere next time not a puppy store!
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| Posted 1/17/08 11:05 AM |
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karacg
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Re: Pet store in Sunrise Mall
Please, I've had dogs all my life - I even have (gasp!!) BOOKS about dogs. I've worked with the SPCA and other rescue organizations.
I try to help other posters with questions they have about their pets, when I can. I try not to lecture, berate or insult.
Ignorance is simply that - ignorance. Not bliss.
And knowledge that is not put to use is simply sad IMO.
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| Posted 1/17/08 11:12 AM |
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SweetTooth
I'm a tired mommy!
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Re: Pet store in Sunrise Mall
Maybe if I put a different spin on it?
If you truly, truly loved your dog so much that you wanted to further the breed how would you do it?
Would you keep your dog outside in a small cage and let her have litter after litter after litter? And then since they were making you money buy more and pack them in some more cages? Would you take the puppies of your beloved pet and ship them across the country to be sold in a pet store? A pet store that might not treat their puppies right? And where it might eventually be sold to someone who won't properly care for the dog? Or not love the dog as you love it?
OR would you let your beloved dog live inside your home and treat her like royalty? Let her have one, maybe two litters a year? And wouldn't you want to know each and every family that comes to take her babies? Make sure they are going into loving, safe homes?
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| Posted 1/17/08 11:14 AM |
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aprw5
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Re: Pet store in Sunrise Mall
Posted by karacg
Please, I've had dogs all my life - I even have (gasp!!) BOOKS about dogs. I've worked with the SPCA and other rescue organizations.
I try to help other posters with questions they have about their pets, when I can. I try not to lecture, berate or insult.
Ignorance is simply that - ignorance. Not bliss.
And knowledge that is not put to use is simply sad IMO.
and i guess you u r an ignorance expert
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| Posted 1/17/08 11:21 AM |
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SweetTooth
I'm a tired mommy!
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Re: Pet store in Sunrise Mall
Posted by aprw5
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and i guess you u r an ignorance expert
why are you so hostile?
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| Posted 1/17/08 11:22 AM |
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Diane
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Re: Pet store in Sunrise Mall
Posted by aprw5
Posted by karacg
Please, I've had dogs all my life - I even have (gasp!!) BOOKS about dogs. I've worked with the SPCA and other rescue organizations.
I try to help other posters with questions they have about their pets, when I can. I try not to lecture, berate or insult.
Ignorance is simply that - ignorance. Not bliss.
And knowledge that is not put to use is simply sad IMO.
and i guess you u r an ignorance expert
that was pretty HARSH!!!!!
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| Posted 1/17/08 11:24 AM |
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HoneyBadger
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Re: Pet store in Sunrise Mall
Posted by SweetTooth
Posted by aprw5
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and i guess you u r an ignorance expert
why are you so hostile?
Because she HIDING behind a FAKE screen name.
Don't you know? It's EASY to be a COWARD.
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| Posted 1/17/08 11:24 AM |
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moms3
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Re: Pet store in Sunrise Mall
Posted by SweetTooth
Maybe if I put a different spin on it?
If you truly, truly loved your dog so much that you wanted to further the breed how would you do it?
Would you keep your dog outside in a small cage and let her have litter after litter after litter? And then since they were making you money buy more and pack them in some more cages? Would you take the puppies of your beloved pet and ship them across the country to be sold in a pet store? A pet store that might not treat their puppies right? And where it might eventually be sold to someone who won't properly care for the dog? Or not love the dog as you love it?
OR would you let your beloved dog live inside your home and treat her like royalty? Let her have one, maybe two litters a year? And wouldn't you want to know each and every family that comes to take her babies? Make sure they are going into loving, safe homes?
maybe they don't truely truely love all the dogs. Maybe its just the way they make money, but maybe they don't treat the dogs like crap! I'm not saying what their doing is neccesarily right, I'm just saying maybe the puppy that I want didn't come from abuse and neglect. Maybe I just have an open mind, but what I do know, is there is no way we are ever going to agree on this!
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| Posted 1/17/08 11:25 AM |
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SweetTooth
I'm a tired mommy!
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Re: Pet store in Sunrise Mall
Posted by Jennie0898
Posted by SweetTooth
Posted by aprw5
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and i guess you u r an ignorance expert
why are you so hostile?
Because she HIDING behind a FAKE screen name.
Don't you know? It's EASY to be a COWARD.
Yes, I see that.
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| Posted 1/17/08 11:26 AM |
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karacg
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Re: Pet store in Sunrise Mall
Posted by aprw5
Posted by karacg
Please, I've had dogs all my life - I even have (gasp!!) BOOKS about dogs. I've worked with the SPCA and other rescue organizations.
I try to help other posters with questions they have about their pets, when I can. I try not to lecture, berate or insult.
Ignorance is simply that - ignorance. Not bliss.
And knowledge that is not put to use is simply sad IMO.
and i guess you u r an ignorance expert
Um fortunately, no, I am not.
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| Posted 1/17/08 11:27 AM |
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aprw5
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ang
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Re: Pet store in Sunrise Mall
Posted by Jennie0898
Posted by SweetTooth
Posted by aprw5
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and i guess you u r an ignorance expert
why are you so hostile?
Because she HIDING behind a FAKE screen name.
Don't you know? It's EASY to be a COWARD.
whats fake about my screen name it a screen name just like u have i dont know u u dont know me...and i'm hostile...so she wasnt refferring to anybody having ignorance...but weh i answer to that im hostile!!!
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| Posted 1/17/08 11:27 AM |
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aprw5
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ang
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Re: Pet store in Sunrise Mall
Posted by karacg
Posted by aprw5
Posted by karacg
Please, I've had dogs all my life - I even have (gasp!!) BOOKS about dogs. I've worked with the SPCA and other rescue organizations.
I try to help other posters with questions they have about their pets, when I can. I try not to lecture, berate or insult.
Ignorance is simply that - ignorance. Not bliss.
And knowledge that is not put to use is simply sad IMO.
and i guess you u r an ignorance expert
Um fortunately, no, I am not.
So just an expert at pointing out other peoples ignorance...guess that is a gift PERFECT people have
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| Posted 1/17/08 11:28 AM |
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pinkandblue
Our family is complete, maybe
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Re: Pet store in Sunrise Mall
Because she HIDING behind a FAKE screen name.
Don't you know? It's EASY to be a COWARD.
 ding, ding, ding
so TRUE.....
Message edited 1/17/2008 11:30:04 AM.
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CookiePuss
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Re: Pet store in Sunrise Mall
Posted by aprw5
Posted by Jennie0898
Posted by moms3
Yup, your totally right, I will not buy from a pet store, and I will shut down all puppy mills...terrific! Forget about the 20 other people I see in that same pet store every time I go...And no thats not the end of discussion, what you guys say is not the say all and end all, no matter how much you think it is!
Ok, so if 20 people were jumping off the Brooklyn Bridge would you do it too b/c 20 others did?
I don't get this kind of rationale.
No one thinks what they say is the end all be all...
This board has presented facts, with pictures I might add, and yet you chose to ignore it.
And she researched the breeder and saw pictures where the dog came from its not a puppy mill
I don't agree with posting under a fake name...you have an opinion...stand behind it. Using a fake name nullifies a lot of what you say just because it's a fake name.
In regard to your statement "IF SHE DONT BUY THEM SOMEONE ELSE WILL....GET REAL PLEEZE " may be right in one sense but if you apply basic laws of economics...as demand goes down, supply lessens. Not buying a puppy by one person does affect the demand thus affecting the supply. Each puppy bought means 6 more will have to be born to replace that "inventory". So one person choosing not to buy one puppy means 6 puppies (a litter usually) will not be born.
Keep in mind that Ted Bundy was a nice looking man, who held a job and seemed to be an upstanding member of the community yet he was a sociopath. Pictures on the internet and what a pet store owner might say don't prove the puppy isn't from a puppymill or backyard breeder. A way to check, factually, is to request the papers for the the parents. The AKC keeps excellent records on linage of all registered dogs. Other organizations that produce papers are usually created by the puppymill owners themselves so that they don't have to prove linage or make sure that 1st and 2nd generation dogs are breeding with their siblings.
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| Posted 1/17/08 11:29 AM |
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karacg
Babygirl is 4!
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Re: Pet store in Sunrise Mall
Posted by karacg
Ignorance is simply that - ignorance. Not bliss.
And knowledge that is not put to use is simply sad IMO.
I didn't call anyone ignorant or say that they "have ignorance" - perhaps you should re-read the post.
This is just craziness at this point. Good luck to both of you and I will leave it at that.
I do not stoop.
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| Posted 1/17/08 11:31 AM |
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HoneyBadger
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Re: Pet store in Sunrise Mall
Posted by aprw5
whats fake about my screen name it a screen name just like u have i dont know u u dont know me...and i'm hostile...so she wasnt refferring to anybody having ignorance...but weh i answer to that im hostile!!!
Here's what YOU said about YOUR screen name...
Posted by aprw5
I am a regular poster on the boards so i wont get attacked...take it as u will
If you're going to lie, please try to keep track of them.
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| Posted 1/17/08 11:35 AM |
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moms3
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Re: Pet store in Sunrise Mall
Posted by shamrock124
Posted by aprw5
Posted by Jennie0898
Posted by moms3
Yup, your totally right, I will not buy from a pet store, and I will shut down all puppy mills...terrific! Forget about the 20 other people I see in that same pet store every time I go...And no thats not the end of discussion, what you guys say is not the say all and end all, no matter how much you think it is!
Ok, so if 20 people were jumping off the Brooklyn Bridge would you do it too b/c 20 others did?
I don't get this kind of rationale.
No one thinks what they say is the end all be all...
This board has presented facts, with pictures I might add, and yet you chose to ignore it.
And she researched the breeder and saw pictures where the dog came from its not a puppy mill
I don't agree with posting under a fake name...you have an opinion...stand behind it. Using a fake name nullifies a lot of what you say just because it's a fake name.
In regard to your statement "IF SHE DONT BUY THEM SOMEONE ELSE WILL....GET REAL PLEEZE " may be right in one sense but if you apply basic laws of economics...as demand goes down, supply lessens. Not buying a puppy by one person does affect the demand thus affecting the supply. Each puppy bought means 6 more will have to be born to replace that "inventory". So one person choosing not to buy one puppy means 6 puppies (a litter usually) will not be born.
Keep in mind that Ted Bundy was a nice looking man, who held a job and seemed to be an upstanding member of the community yet he was a sociopath. Pictures on the internet and what a pet store owner might say don't prove the puppy isn't from a puppymill or backyard breeder. A way to check, factually, is to request the papers for the the parents. The AKC keeps excellent records on linage of all registered dogs. Other organizations that produce papers are usually created by the puppymill owners themselves so that they don't have to prove linage or make sure that 1st and 2nd generation dogs are breeding with their siblings.
OK, seriously this is what I'm looking for, help in finding out about this specific puppy! So what should I do, ask the pet store if they have papers on the parents?
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| Posted 1/17/08 11:35 AM |
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aprw5
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Re: Pet store in Sunrise Mall
Posted by stephanief
Because she HIDING behind a FAKE screen name.
Don't you know? It's EASY to be a COWARD.
ding, ding, ding
so TRUE.....
whats so true how am i hiding...truth is that is my real screen name in every thing i do on the internet and i just posted on here for the first time yesterday...after reading all the posts back and forth...thought if i said what i said about a different screen name it would..i dont know what i who cares i am me...i just heaRD of a puppy mill yesterday...i got my dog from a breeder this time of year a year ago...it had giardia...i just wanted to support moms 3 because you people are a bunch of i think i know everything people...lets have lunch...how bout applebees in bellmore?
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| Posted 1/17/08 11:37 AM |
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CookiePuss
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Re: Pet store in Sunrise Mall
Posted by moms3
OK, seriously this is what I'm looking for, help in finding out about this specific puppy! So what should I do, ask the pet store if they have papers on the parents?
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Yes, they should be able to tell you where the parents are registered as well as their names and history. With that information, you will be able to research a bit better where this puppy is coming from. It should also help you to find out if there may be any genetic tendencies towards problems like aggression, latent medical problems that don't pop up until years later.
Good luck and let me know if I can be anymore help.
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HoneyBadger
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Re: Pet store in Sunrise Mall
Posted by aprw5
Posted by stephanief
Because she HIDING behind a FAKE screen name.
Don't you know? It's EASY to be a COWARD.
ding, ding, ding
so TRUE.....
whats so true how am i hiding...truth is that is my real screen name in every thing i do on the internet and i just posted on here for the first time yesterday...after reading all the posts back and forth...thought if i said what i said about a different screen name it would..i dont know what i who cares i am me...i just heaRD of a puppy mill yesterday...i got my dog from a breeder this time of year a year ago...it had giardia...i just wanted to support moms 3 because you people are a bunch of i think i know everything people...lets have lunch...how bout applebees in bellmore?
TROLL.
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CookiePuss
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Re: Pet store in Sunrise Mall
Posted by aprw5
Posted by stephanief
Because she HIDING behind a FAKE screen name.
Don't you know? It's EASY to be a COWARD.
ding, ding, ding
so TRUE.....
whats so true how am i hiding...truth is that is my real screen name in every thing i do on the internet and i just posted on here for the first time yesterday...after reading all the posts back and forth...thought if i said what i said about a different screen name it would..i dont know what i who cares i am me...i just heaRD of a puppy mill yesterday...i got my dog from a breeder this time of year a year ago...it had giardia...i just wanted to support moms 3 because you people are a bunch of i think i know everything people...lets have lunch...how bout applebees in bellmore?
You have previously claimed to be a regular poster earlier in the thread which leads me to believe that yesterday was not your first time here.
No doubt thats what makes lif awesome everyone has different opinons. I would hope that you aren't a regular poster hiding behind a fake name cause thats pretty lame Chat Icon I am a regular poster on the boards so i wont get attacked...take it as u willLink
I think it's great that people have differing opinions and will stand up for them. You should stand up for what you believe in and not hide behind "fake" names and inconsistencies. Your taking away from what moms came here to learn.
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moms3
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Re: Pet store in Sunrise Mall
Posted by shamrock124
Posted by moms3
OK, seriously this is what I'm looking for, help in finding out about this specific puppy! So what should I do, ask the pet store if they have papers on the parents?
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Yes, they should be able to tell you where the parents are registered as well as their names and history. With that information, you will be able to research a bit better where this puppy is coming from. It should also help you to find out if there may be any genetic tendencies towards problems like aggression, latent medical problems that don't pop up until years later.
Good luck and let me know if I can be anymore help.
Thank you soooo much for trying to help me! I will def. check it out! This is really all I wanted from the beginning, some help in MY situation...
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