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saraH
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Re: question about Lent
Posted by 5ofClubs
FYI - PG women do not have to follow lent
this is what i love about being PG now. bacon on fridays!
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Posted 3/30/07 2:41 PM |
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saraH
happy birthday sweet kate!
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Re: question about Lent
ok, now i don't think she is as crazy as i originally thought.
she is following the rules, but changing them as to meet her needs.
i still find the whole think funny.
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Posted 3/30/07 2:45 PM |
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babymakes3
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Re: question about Lent
I grew up in a fairly strict Catholic household. We didn't eat meat on all Fridays & Ash Wednesday.
We didn't give up sweets either. We gave up something that would better ourselves for giving it up. (ie: gossiping, tattling, procrastinating, etc). We had to think more about our actions and behaviors during Lent as opposed to just avoiding sweets.
ETA: We did it from Ash Wednesday to Easter Sunday.
Message edited 3/30/2007 3:05:35 PM.
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Posted 3/30/07 3:04 PM |
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LaurenExp
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Re: question about Lent
I don't eat meat on Fridays throughout lent, and not on Ash Wednesday, either.
When you give up something, you are supposedly able to do it on Sundays as long as you go to church that day. I gave up cursing so I dont think going to church on Sunday should absolve me of that
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Posted 3/30/07 3:26 PM |
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pinky
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Re: question about Lent
i dont eat meat on any friday during lent.
i also gave something up for all of lent, and dont do it on sundays either.
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Posted 3/30/07 3:45 PM |
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Kara
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Re: question about Lent
There is no religious mandate that you must give something up for Lent. Therefore, there are no religious rules governing the "correct" way to give something up for Lent. Many Catholics don't give something up for Lent, but make a sacrifice in another way, such as doing something good or volunteering or something like that.
You are not supposed to eat meat on ALL Fridays during Lent, though I believe Good Friday and Ash Wednesday are the only days you have to fast. She may have that confused.
There is an age exemption from both the fasting and the no-meat rule. If she's in her 60s, she's past the age she's obliged to obey by both.
Most people do NOTHING during Lent, so giving something up for 6 out of 7 days is at least something.
Religion is personal, and so what if she's wrong. I'm pretty sure God's not paying attention to who eats what when when there are so many more important things going on. I just wouldn't let it bother me or waste my energy trying to prove her wrong. At least she has a faith and is doing something - even if she is making up her own rules for Lent.
I'm the worst "Catholic" ever... I've eaten meat every Friday this Lent honestly without even thinking!
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Posted 3/30/07 3:52 PM |
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My2Boys
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Re: question about Lent
I don't eat meat on any Friday during Lent and I never "cheat" by eating the things I gave up (soda and chocolate - in *any* form ).
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Posted 3/30/07 4:02 PM |
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eroxgirl
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Re: question about Lent
I was raised that we don't eat meat only on Ash Wednesday and Good Fridays, but all other Fridays during lent it was acceptable...And my uncle was a Catholic priest so I assume I would have heard from him if this wasn't true.
My mother once told me it was an Italian thing and not a Catholic thing (we're Irish). I don't know if she still stands by that though..
But I'm the worst catholic ever so what do I know.
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Posted 3/30/07 4:02 PM |
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saraH
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Re: question about Lent
Posted by Kara
There is no religious mandate that you must give something up for Lent. Therefore, there are no religious rules governing the "correct" way to give something up for Lent. Many Catholics don't give something up for Lent, but make a sacrifice in another way, such as doing something good or volunteering or something like that.
You are not supposed to eat meat on ALL Fridays during Lent, though I believe Good Friday and Ash Wednesday are the only days you have to fast. She may have that confused.
There is an age exemption from both the fasting and the no-meat rule. If she's in her 60s, she's past the age she's obliged to obey by both.
Most people do NOTHING during Lent, so giving something up for 6 out of 7 days is at least something.
Religion is personal, and so what if she's wrong. I'm pretty sure God's not paying attention to who eats what when when there are so many more important things going on. I just wouldn't let it bother me or waste my energy trying to prove her wrong. At least she has a faith and is doing something - even if she is making up her own rules for Lent.
I'm the worst "Catholic" ever... I've eaten meat every Friday this Lent honestly without even thinking!
i get what you are saying and i agree. its just a joke in our office. what rules apply and when? kwim?
we don't take her seriously and let her live her life.
just good for a laugh on a friday.
and ps - none of us try to prove her wrong. soooo not worth the energy.
Message edited 3/30/2007 4:22:20 PM.
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Posted 3/30/07 4:21 PM |
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tray831
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Re: question about Lent
Posted by TreAnt427
I don't give anything up for Lent. But I don't eat meat on fridays during it.
Same here.
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Posted 3/30/07 4:30 PM |
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Kara
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Re: question about Lent
Posted by BNL2005
Posted by Kara
There is no religious mandate that you must give something up for Lent. Therefore, there are no religious rules governing the "correct" way to give something up for Lent. Many Catholics don't give something up for Lent, but make a sacrifice in another way, such as doing something good or volunteering or something like that.
You are not supposed to eat meat on ALL Fridays during Lent, though I believe Good Friday and Ash Wednesday are the only days you have to fast. She may have that confused.
There is an age exemption from both the fasting and the no-meat rule. If she's in her 60s, she's past the age she's obliged to obey by both.
Most people do NOTHING during Lent, so giving something up for 6 out of 7 days is at least something.
Religion is personal, and so what if she's wrong. I'm pretty sure God's not paying attention to who eats what when when there are so many more important things going on. I just wouldn't let it bother me or waste my energy trying to prove her wrong. At least she has a faith and is doing something - even if she is making up her own rules for Lent.
I'm the worst "Catholic" ever... I've eaten meat every Friday this Lent honestly without even thinking!
i get what you are saying and i agree. its just a joke in our office. what rules apply and when? kwim?
we don't take her seriously and let her live her life.
just good for a laugh on a friday.
and ps - none of us try to prove her wrong. soooo not worth the energy.
I gotcha! Sorry, I wasn't attacking you!
I have to say, my FH thinks I'm funny about things. Halfway through dinner last week, I said (ironically) "Damn! I did it again." There I was eating chicken... every week the same thing happens. Friday night, we order chinese and I get sesame chicken.
Hopefully God has a sense of humor. He has to if he made EVERYONE on the planet.
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Posted 3/30/07 4:36 PM |
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Posted 3/30/07 4:38 PM |
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saraH
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Re: question about Lent
Posted by Kara
Posted by BNL2005
Posted by Kara
There is no religious mandate that you must give something up for Lent. Therefore, there are no religious rules governing the "correct" way to give something up for Lent. Many Catholics don't give something up for Lent, but make a sacrifice in another way, such as doing something good or volunteering or something like that.
You are not supposed to eat meat on ALL Fridays during Lent, though I believe Good Friday and Ash Wednesday are the only days you have to fast. She may have that confused.
There is an age exemption from both the fasting and the no-meat rule. If she's in her 60s, she's past the age she's obliged to obey by both.
Most people do NOTHING during Lent, so giving something up for 6 out of 7 days is at least something.
Religion is personal, and so what if she's wrong. I'm pretty sure God's not paying attention to who eats what when when there are so many more important things going on. I just wouldn't let it bother me or waste my energy trying to prove her wrong. At least she has a faith and is doing something - even if she is making up her own rules for Lent.
I'm the worst "Catholic" ever... I've eaten meat every Friday this Lent honestly without even thinking!
i get what you are saying and i agree. its just a joke in our office. what rules apply and when? kwim?
we don't take her seriously and let her live her life.
just good for a laugh on a friday.
and ps - none of us try to prove her wrong. soooo not worth the energy.
I gotcha! Sorry, I wasn't attacking you!
I have to say, my FH thinks I'm funny about things. Halfway through dinner last week, I said (ironically) "Damn! I did it again." There I was eating chicken... every week the same thing happens. Friday night, we order chinese and I get sesame chicken.
Hopefully God has a sense of humor. He has to if he made EVERYONE on the planet.
no worries. i didn;t feel attacked.
i see now that although they are different, she jsut follows different rules. not right or wrong, just different.
and she never tries to convert us, just marches to her own drummer.
and if i didn't tel my husband no meat, he would forget.
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saraH
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Re: question about Lent
Posted by cpanyc
Just to define things a littler more clearly - this is from an article on the USCCB website.
The Church has two forms of official penitential practices.
Abstinence The law of abstinence requires a Catholic 14 years of age until death to abstain from eating meat on Fridays in honor of the Passion of Jesus on Good Friday. Meat is considered to be the flesh and organs of mammals and fowl. Salt and freshwater species of fish, amphibians, reptiles and shellfish are permitted, as are animal derived products such as margarine and gelatin which do not have any meat taste.
During Lent abstinence from meat on Fridays is obligatory in the United States as elsewhere, and it is sinful not to observe this discipline without a serious reason (physical labor, pregnancy, sickness etc.).
Fasting The law of fasting requires a Catholic from the 18th Birthday [Canon 97] to the 59th Birthday to reduce the amount of food eaten from normal. The Church defines this as one meal a day, and two smaller meals which if added together would not exceed the main meal in quantity. Such fasting is obligatory on Ash Wednesday and Good Friday. The fast is broken by eating between meals and by drinks which could be considered food (milk shakes, but not milk). Alcoholic beverages do not break the fast; however, they seem contrary to the spirit of doing penance.
Those who are excused from fast or abstinence: Besides those outside the age limits, those of unsound mind, the sick, the frail, pregnant or nursing women according to need for meat or nourishment, manual laborers according to need, guests at a meal who cannot excuse themselves without giving great offense or causing enmity and other situations of moral or physical impossibility to observe the penitential discipline.
Aside from these minimum penitential requirements Catholics are encouraged to impose some personal penance on themselves at other times. It could be modeled after abstinence and fasting. A person could, for example, multiply the number of days they abstain. Some people give up meat entirely for religious motives (as opposed to those who give it up for health or other motives). Similarly, one could multiply the number of days that one fasted. Such freely chosen fasting could also consist in giving up something one enjoys - candy, soft drinks, smoking, that cocktail before supper, and so on. This is left to the individual.
One final consideration. Before all else we are obliged to perform the duties of our state in life. When considering stricter practices than the norm, it is prudent to discuss the matter with one's confessor or director. Any deprivation that would seriously hinder us in carrying out our work, as students, employees or parents would be contrary to the will of God.
interesting, thanks. i think this person follows the "old" rules.
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Posted 3/30/07 4:44 PM |
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lvdolphins
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Re: question about Lent
I don't eat any meat on Friday's during Lent. I gave up swearing for Lent and hope to continue it forever. (or at least try).
Message edited 3/30/2007 4:48:16 PM.
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Posted 3/30/07 4:47 PM |
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JenniferEver
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Re: question about Lent
Posted by BNL2005
Posted by cpanyc
Just to define things a littler more clearly - this is from an article on the USCCB website.
The Church has two forms of official penitential practices.
Abstinence The law of abstinence requires a Catholic 14 years of age until death to abstain from eating meat on Fridays in honor of the Passion of Jesus on Good Friday. Meat is considered to be the flesh and organs of mammals and fowl. Salt and freshwater species of fish, amphibians, reptiles and shellfish are permitted, as are animal derived products such as margarine and gelatin which do not have any meat taste.
During Lent abstinence from meat on Fridays is obligatory in the United States as elsewhere, and it is sinful not to observe this discipline without a serious reason (physical labor, pregnancy, sickness etc.).
Fasting The law of fasting requires a Catholic from the 18th Birthday [Canon 97] to the 59th Birthday to reduce the amount of food eaten from normal. The Church defines this as one meal a day, and two smaller meals which if added together would not exceed the main meal in quantity. Such fasting is obligatory on Ash Wednesday and Good Friday. The fast is broken by eating between meals and by drinks which could be considered food (milk shakes, but not milk). Alcoholic beverages do not break the fast; however, they seem contrary to the spirit of doing penance.
Those who are excused from fast or abstinence: Besides those outside the age limits, those of unsound mind, the sick, the frail, pregnant or nursing women according to need for meat or nourishment, manual laborers according to need, guests at a meal who cannot excuse themselves without giving great offense or causing enmity and other situations of moral or physical impossibility to observe the penitential discipline.
Aside from these minimum penitential requirements Catholics are encouraged to impose some personal penance on themselves at other times. It could be modeled after abstinence and fasting. A person could, for example, multiply the number of days they abstain. Some people give up meat entirely for religious motives (as opposed to those who give it up for health or other motives). Similarly, one could multiply the number of days that one fasted. Such freely chosen fasting could also consist in giving up something one enjoys - candy, soft drinks, smoking, that cocktail before supper, and so on. This is left to the individual.
One final consideration. Before all else we are obliged to perform the duties of our state in life. When considering stricter practices than the norm, it is prudent to discuss the matter with one's confessor or director. Any deprivation that would seriously hinder us in carrying out our work, as students, employees or parents would be contrary to the will of God.
interesting, thanks. i think this person follows the "old" rules.
In what way?
Anyway it says any additional penitence is up to the individaul, so whether or not to have it on Sundays is up to the individual too. But I don't think the "no meat on fridays" rule has ever been questioned. It's pretty muuch set in stone
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Posted 3/30/07 4:53 PM |
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saraH
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Re: question about Lent
my point was, she seems to think the no meat rule is only for good friday. and since that changed, she stuck with the old rules.
its not as big an issue as some are making it out to be, just funny in my office.
i guess you have to work here.
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Posted 3/30/07 4:59 PM |
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Re: question about Lent
Posted by JenniferEver
But I don't think the "no meat on fridays" rule has ever been questioned. It's pretty muuch set in stone It has actually changed, and more than once from what I can recall...
It used to be "no meat on Fridays" every and then no meat at all during Lent with fasting on Ash Wednesday & Good Friday. (hence the gluttony on Mardi Gras)
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Posted 3/30/07 5:01 PM |
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JenniferEver
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Re: question about Lent
Posted by MsMBV
Posted by JenniferEver
But I don't think the "no meat on fridays" rule has ever been questioned. It's pretty muuch set in stone It has actually changed, and more than once from what I can recall...
It used to be "no meat on Fridays" every and then no meat at all during Lent with fasting on Ash Wednesday & Good Friday. (hence the gluttony on Mardi Gras)
Right, but that isn't what this paper says? Since Vat II, I think it's been no meat on Fridays during lent. I don't think I've ever really heard anyone say it's only Good Friday (unless they were full of it..haha)
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Posted 3/30/07 5:09 PM |
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islandersgirl74
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Re: question about Lent
I dont eat meat on any fridays during Lent.
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Posted 3/30/07 5:13 PM |
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leighdvm
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Re: question about Lent
Question -- is the "no meat for any Friday during Lent" only for Catholics? I ask because I am Lutheran and I've only done the no-meat thing on Good Friday....I hope I haven't been wrong my entire life......wouldn't be the first time, though!
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Posted 3/30/07 5:26 PM |
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saraH
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Re: question about Lent
Posted by JenniferEver
Posted by MsMBV
Posted by JenniferEver
But I don't think the "no meat on fridays" rule has ever been questioned. It's pretty muuch set in stone It has actually changed, and more than once from what I can recall...
It used to be "no meat on Fridays" every and then no meat at all during Lent with fasting on Ash Wednesday & Good Friday. (hence the gluttony on Mardi Gras)
Right, but that isn't what this paper says? Since Vat II, I think it's been no meat on Fridays during lent. I don't think I've ever really heard anyone say it's only Good Friday (unless they were full of it..haha)
i never actually asked her why she only follows lent on easter and ash wednesday and good friday.
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Posted 3/30/07 5:48 PM |
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jeanlaS
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Re: question about Lent
The "sunday" thing we followed when we were young children only.
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Posted 3/30/07 10:32 PM |
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klingklang77
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Re: question about Lent
I do not eat meat on Fridays during lent. I usually give something up, but this year I didnt (a family member passed away at the beginning of lent, and I forgot). I never followed the Sunday rule. Someone explained to me about how lent is 40 days minus the Sundays. I still do not do it.
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