Re: Roosevelt Field Mall and Santa

I find this type of thing really stupid but I'm not at all surprised. Walt Whitman has hidden Santa down a side corridor and their holiday decorations are very minimal and not "Christmasy" at all.

I actually find it offensive that we have to hide basically the largest holiday celebration in the US to be PC. What is not correct about acknowledging holidays, religious or not? I don't mind at all if holidays that I don't celebrate are decorated for. Just include them all and call it a day!

Message edited 11/7/2015 12:07:21 PM.

Re: Roosevelt Field Mall and Santa

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by Naturalmama

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by Sparrow

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by CallaLily

Posted by ElizaRags35

Posted by MichLiz213

Posted by gina409

I'll
Post exactly what I said on fb

It's about this country whiny entitled generation of everything offends me and everything needs to be Pc

I don't care what the "proof" is. These setupa have been this way for how many years.

So now they decide to do one with zero Christmas decorations/theme

Give me a break. So make fun of anyone that's upset or annoyed. That's your choice. The same as it for anyone who feels the opposite.

It would be one thing if people were upset about the change in decoration.

But people are up in arms about the "War on Christmas" because ONE person on Facebook said they spoke to management.

So before anyone verified whether this was the reason for the change, everyone jumps to conclusions.

You (collective you, not you personally) have a right to be upset if you want, that's your choice. But at least wait until the reason for the change is confirmed before raising your blood pressure over it.

Could not agree more. Santa is still there. The stores are decorated. Christmas is still shoved down everyone's throats.

Christmas is shoved down everyone's throats? Wow.

Maybe because I LOVE the holidays I never understand the disdain for the holidays and the sentiment of "Xmas being shoved down my throat".

The holidays are what YOU make of them. Sure the stores and manufacturers of the world may commercialize it to some degree but that's such a little part of what Xmas is all about. It doesn't DEFINE my holidays.

For me, Xmas is a time for family, for seeing the joy on my children's faces Xmas morning, for traditions, for self-reflection, for looking back and reminiscing, for spending time with those that I love the most, for being kind to my fellow neighbor, for thinking of others before myself, for brightening someone else's day, for relaxing at night with my DH with only the glow of the Xmas tree lighting the room, for listening to the relaxing sounds of Xmas music that bring me back to my childhood, AND for feeling generally happy and at peace and like the world is just a little bit smaller and a little more friendly this time of year.

The holidays should make you feel happy and festive............not so bitter and angry. I think so many people, people in my own family even, just focus on the wrong things at this time of year. They complain about having to spend hours cooking instead of looking forward to sharing a special meal with those they love. They focus on all the presents they have to wrap instead of thinking about the joy they are bringing to those they are gifting to.

Xmas is but one time of year...........slow down, look around, listen to the music, take it all in and just enjoy it. That's what I do and I LOVE every minute of it and ring in the new year feeling blessed, loved, refreshed, and ready to start a whole new year!!

ETA - And I know it feels like Xmas starts earlier every year but honestly, it doesn't bother me. So I see a Xmas tree in November, it doesn't diminish my Thanksgiving (which I do LOVE), it just makes the holidays feel like they last a little longer which is cool with me!!

I'm just curious, why do you only refer to the holiday as "Xmas"?

Because we've been talking about Xmas on this thread.

I think she means why don't you say Christmas

That's even a sillier question then. Because it's easier than typing out CHRISTMAS every single time.

ETA - I don't think that is what she meant though after rereading it.

Re: Roosevelt Field Mall and Santa

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by Naturalmama

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by Sparrow

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by CallaLily

Posted by ElizaRags35

Posted by MichLiz213

Posted by gina409

I'll
Post exactly what I said on fb

It's about this country whiny entitled generation of everything offends me and everything needs to be Pc

I don't care what the "proof" is. These setupa have been this way for how many years.

So now they decide to do one with zero Christmas decorations/theme

Give me a break. So make fun of anyone that's upset or annoyed. That's your choice. The same as it for anyone who feels the opposite.

It would be one thing if people were upset about the change in decoration.

But people are up in arms about the "War on Christmas" because ONE person on Facebook said they spoke to management.

So before anyone verified whether this was the reason for the change, everyone jumps to conclusions.

You (collective you, not you personally) have a right to be upset if you want, that's your choice. But at least wait until the reason for the change is confirmed before raising your blood pressure over it.

Could not agree more. Santa is still there. The stores are decorated. Christmas is still shoved down everyone's throats.

Christmas is shoved down everyone's throats? Wow.

Maybe because I LOVE the holidays I never understand the disdain for the holidays and the sentiment of "Xmas being shoved down my throat".

The holidays are what YOU make of them. Sure the stores and manufacturers of the world may commercialize it to some degree but that's such a little part of what Xmas is all about. It doesn't DEFINE my holidays.

For me, Xmas is a time for family, for seeing the joy on my children's faces Xmas morning, for traditions, for self-reflection, for looking back and reminiscing, for spending time with those that I love the most, for being kind to my fellow neighbor, for thinking of others before myself, for brightening someone else's day, for relaxing at night with my DH with only the glow of the Xmas tree lighting the room, for listening to the relaxing sounds of Xmas music that bring me back to my childhood, AND for feeling generally happy and at peace and like the world is just a little bit smaller and a little more friendly this time of year.

The holidays should make you feel happy and festive............not so bitter and angry. I think so many people, people in my own family even, just focus on the wrong things at this time of year. They complain about having to spend hours cooking instead of looking forward to sharing a special meal with those they love. They focus on all the presents they have to wrap instead of thinking about the joy they are bringing to those they are gifting to.

Xmas is but one time of year...........slow down, look around, listen to the music, take it all in and just enjoy it. That's what I do and I LOVE every minute of it and ring in the new year feeling blessed, loved, refreshed, and ready to start a whole new year!!

ETA - And I know it feels like Xmas starts earlier every year but honestly, it doesn't bother me. So I see a Xmas tree in November, it doesn't diminish my Thanksgiving (which I do LOVE), it just makes the holidays feel like they last a little longer which is cool with me!!

I'm just curious, why do you only refer to the holiday as "Xmas"?

Because we've been talking about Xmas on this thread.

I think she means why don't you say Christmas

That's even a sillier question then. Because it's easier than typing out CHRISTMAS every single time.

ETA - I don't think that is what she meant though after rereading it.

Re: Roosevelt Field Mall and Santa

Posted by Sparrow

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by Naturalmama

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by Sparrow

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by CallaLily

Posted by ElizaRags35

Posted by MichLiz213

Posted by gina409

I'll
Post exactly what I said on fb

It's about this country whiny entitled generation of everything offends me and everything needs to be Pc

I don't care what the "proof" is. These setupa have been this way for how many years.

So now they decide to do one with zero Christmas decorations/theme

Give me a break. So make fun of anyone that's upset or annoyed. That's your choice. The same as it for anyone who feels the opposite.

It would be one thing if people were upset about the change in decoration.

But people are up in arms about the "War on Christmas" because ONE person on Facebook said they spoke to management.

So before anyone verified whether this was the reason for the change, everyone jumps to conclusions.

You (collective you, not you personally) have a right to be upset if you want, that's your choice. But at least wait until the reason for the change is confirmed before raising your blood pressure over it.

Could not agree more. Santa is still there. The stores are decorated. Christmas is still shoved down everyone's throats.

Christmas is shoved down everyone's throats? Wow.

Maybe because I LOVE the holidays I never understand the disdain for the holidays and the sentiment of "Xmas being shoved down my throat".

The holidays are what YOU make of them. Sure the stores and manufacturers of the world may commercialize it to some degree but that's such a little part of what Xmas is all about. It doesn't DEFINE my holidays.

For me, Xmas is a time for family, for seeing the joy on my children's faces Xmas morning, for traditions, for self-reflection, for looking back and reminiscing, for spending time with those that I love the most, for being kind to my fellow neighbor, for thinking of others before myself, for brightening someone else's day, for relaxing at night with my DH with only the glow of the Xmas tree lighting the room, for listening to the relaxing sounds of Xmas music that bring me back to my childhood, AND for feeling generally happy and at peace and like the world is just a little bit smaller and a little more friendly this time of year.

The holidays should make you feel happy and festive............not so bitter and angry. I think so many people, people in my own family even, just focus on the wrong things at this time of year. They complain about having to spend hours cooking instead of looking forward to sharing a special meal with those they love. They focus on all the presents they have to wrap instead of thinking about the joy they are bringing to those they are gifting to.

Xmas is but one time of year...........slow down, look around, listen to the music, take it all in and just enjoy it. That's what I do and I LOVE every minute of it and ring in the new year feeling blessed, loved, refreshed, and ready to start a whole new year!!

ETA - And I know it feels like Xmas starts earlier every year but honestly, it doesn't bother me. So I see a Xmas tree in November, it doesn't diminish my Thanksgiving (which I do LOVE), it just makes the holidays feel like they last a little longer which is cool with me!!

I'm just curious, why do you only refer to the holiday as "Xmas"?

Because we've been talking about Xmas on this thread.

I think she means why don't you say Christmas

That's even a sillier question then. Because it's easier than typing out CHRISTMAS every single time.

ETA - I don't think that is what she meant though after rereading it.

I was wondering if you weren't saying Christmas for a particular reason or to make a point . . . But I'm obviously way off base and it's just a time saver. Never mind, carry on!

Re: Roosevelt Field Mall and Santa

Posted by Sash

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by Naturalmama

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by Sparrow

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by CallaLily

Posted by ElizaRags35

Posted by MichLiz213

Posted by gina409

I'll
Post exactly what I said on fb

It's about this country whiny entitled generation of everything offends me and everything needs to be Pc

I don't care what the "proof" is. These setupa have been this way for how many years.

So now they decide to do one with zero Christmas decorations/theme

Give me a break. So make fun of anyone that's upset or annoyed. That's your choice. The same as it for anyone who feels the opposite.

It would be one thing if people were upset about the change in decoration.

But people are up in arms about the "War on Christmas" because ONE person on Facebook said they spoke to management.

So before anyone verified whether this was the reason for the change, everyone jumps to conclusions.

You (collective you, not you personally) have a right to be upset if you want, that's your choice. But at least wait until the reason for the change is confirmed before raising your blood pressure over it.

Could not agree more. Santa is still there. The stores are decorated. Christmas is still shoved down everyone's throats.

Christmas is shoved down everyone's throats? Wow.

Maybe because I LOVE the holidays I never understand the disdain for the holidays and the sentiment of "Xmas being shoved down my throat".

The holidays are what YOU make of them. Sure the stores and manufacturers of the world may commercialize it to some degree but that's such a little part of what Xmas is all about. It doesn't DEFINE my holidays.

For me, Xmas is a time for family, for seeing the joy on my children's faces Xmas morning, for traditions, for self-reflection, for looking back and reminiscing, for spending time with those that I love the most, for being kind to my fellow neighbor, for thinking of others before myself, for brightening someone else's day, for relaxing at night with my DH with only the glow of the Xmas tree lighting the room, for listening to the relaxing sounds of Xmas music that bring me back to my childhood, AND for feeling generally happy and at peace and like the world is just a little bit smaller and a little more friendly this time of year.

The holidays should make you feel happy and festive............not so bitter and angry. I think so many people, people in my own family even, just focus on the wrong things at this time of year. They complain about having to spend hours cooking instead of looking forward to sharing a special meal with those they love. They focus on all the presents they have to wrap instead of thinking about the joy they are bringing to those they are gifting to.

Xmas is but one time of year...........slow down, look around, listen to the music, take it all in and just enjoy it. That's what I do and I LOVE every minute of it and ring in the new year feeling blessed, loved, refreshed, and ready to start a whole new year!!

ETA - And I know it feels like Xmas starts earlier every year but honestly, it doesn't bother me. So I see a Xmas tree in November, it doesn't diminish my Thanksgiving (which I do LOVE), it just makes the holidays feel like they last a little longer which is cool with me!!

I'm just curious, why do you only refer to the holiday as "Xmas"?

Because we've been talking about Xmas on this thread.

I think she means why don't you say Christmas

That's even a sillier question then. Because it's easier than typing out CHRISTMAS every single time.

ETA - I don't think that is what she meant though after rereading it.

Not saying you this is why you were doing it but I always thought it was a shorter version to write. But I found out some people write it that way to take "Christ" out of Christmas. So I stopped writing it like that, idk if that's why she was asking.

Message edited 11/7/2015 12:13:13 PM.

Re: Roosevelt Field Mall and Santa

I love new technology and it's my background but that's too ugly and futuristic looking for me. I wouldn't take my kid to something like that for pics, seems too sterile!

And I am not one to decorate early or rush the holidays, but to each their own. Idk why the way other people live their lives offend/piss people off so much lol

Re: Roosevelt Field Mall and Santa

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by Sash

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by Naturalmama

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by Sparrow

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by CallaLily

Posted by ElizaRags35

Posted by MichLiz213

Posted by gina409

I'll
Post exactly what I said on fb

It's about this country whiny entitled generation of everything offends me and everything needs to be Pc

I don't care what the "proof" is. These setupa have been this way for how many years.

So now they decide to do one with zero Christmas decorations/theme

Give me a break. So make fun of anyone that's upset or annoyed. That's your choice. The same as it for anyone who feels the opposite.

It would be one thing if people were upset about the change in decoration.

But people are up in arms about the "War on Christmas" because ONE person on Facebook said they spoke to management.

So before anyone verified whether this was the reason for the change, everyone jumps to conclusions.

You (collective you, not you personally) have a right to be upset if you want, that's your choice. But at least wait until the reason for the change is confirmed before raising your blood pressure over it.

Could not agree more. Santa is still there. The stores are decorated. Christmas is still shoved down everyone's throats.

Christmas is shoved down everyone's throats? Wow.

Maybe because I LOVE the holidays I never understand the disdain for the holidays and the sentiment of "Xmas being shoved down my throat".

The holidays are what YOU make of them. Sure the stores and manufacturers of the world may commercialize it to some degree but that's such a little part of what Xmas is all about. It doesn't DEFINE my holidays.

For me, Xmas is a time for family, for seeing the joy on my children's faces Xmas morning, for traditions, for self-reflection, for looking back and reminiscing, for spending time with those that I love the most, for being kind to my fellow neighbor, for thinking of others before myself, for brightening someone else's day, for relaxing at night with my DH with only the glow of the Xmas tree lighting the room, for listening to the relaxing sounds of Xmas music that bring me back to my childhood, AND for feeling generally happy and at peace and like the world is just a little bit smaller and a little more friendly this time of year.

The holidays should make you feel happy and festive............not so bitter and angry. I think so many people, people in my own family even, just focus on the wrong things at this time of year. They complain about having to spend hours cooking instead of looking forward to sharing a special meal with those they love. They focus on all the presents they have to wrap instead of thinking about the joy they are bringing to those they are gifting to.

Xmas is but one time of year...........slow down, look around, listen to the music, take it all in and just enjoy it. That's what I do and I LOVE every minute of it and ring in the new year feeling blessed, loved, refreshed, and ready to start a whole new year!!

ETA - And I know it feels like Xmas starts earlier every year but honestly, it doesn't bother me. So I see a Xmas tree in November, it doesn't diminish my Thanksgiving (which I do LOVE), it just makes the holidays feel like they last a little longer which is cool with me!!

I'm just curious, why do you only refer to the holiday as "Xmas"?

Because we've been talking about Xmas on this thread.

I think she means why don't you say Christmas

That's even a sillier question then. Because it's easier than typing out CHRISTMAS every single time.

ETA - I don't think that is what she meant though after rereading it.

Not saying you this is why you were doing it but I always thought it was a shorter version to write. But I found out some people write it that way to take "Christ" out of Christmas. So I stopped writing it like that, idk if that's why she was asking.

Ooooooo I had no idea anyone did it for a reason. It's just a long word and I get tired of writing it out every time.

Re: Roosevelt Field Mall and Santa

Re: Roosevelt Field Mall and Santa

IMO yes lol. I celebrate it. Just not in September when the stores start putting out their stuff. Or on November 1st. Poor thanksgiving gets the shaft!


You said shaft

Roosevelt Field Mall and Santa

It looks like a Kardashian Kristmas card set. No thanks!

Roosevelt Field Mall and Santa

There has been an update! Mall management supposedly said it will add a Christmas tree due to the outcry from the people.
( read this on news12 FB )

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Here you go....

tree will be added to the set up

Roosevelt Field Mall and Santa

I'm at the mall now. There are 3 trees around the glacier that are lit up. It does look stupid but it's not as bad as the pictures make it out to be. Most importantly I see 2 little boys hugging and smiling and having their pictures taken with the man they believe to be the real Santa. Unfortunately I can also see some women who are clearly complaining to not only employees who are trying to do their job but poor Santa.

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Roosevelt Field Mall and Santa

Look at it this way - people that are offended and won't go just means it's a shorter line for me when I'm waiting for my son's photo!

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I'm so confused by this.
They are offended by the decorations but NOT Santa?

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Message edited 11/7/2015 4:55:27 PM.

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Roosevelt Field Mall and Santa

I tried not to get involved on FB but I saw multiple people posted about this and a lot of people were quick to say this was done because of Jews and Muslims that "can't let the Christians have their fun." I saw a lot of "go back to your country if you can't handle it." This is all without Simon Malls ever saying they did this because people found this offensive. As a Jew, this scared the crap out of me. I've always loved Christmas decorations, Christmas time, etc. even though I never grew up celebrating and never had a tree. But I always enjoyed seeing it at the mall and celebrating with friends. I too think the glacier pod is hideous but blaming it on other religious affiliations that don't celebrate Christmas is just starting something that I prefer not to witness.

I'm not saying anyone on here did that, just people on FB.

Message edited 11/7/2015 7:45:22 PM.

Re: Roosevelt Field Mall and Santa

Posted by Hofstra26

I think she means why don't you say Christmas

That's even a sillier question then. Because it's easier than typing out CHRISTMAS every single time.

ETA - I don't think that is what she meant though after rereading it.

Not saying you this is why you were doing it but I always thought it was a shorter version to write. But I found out some people write it that way to take "Christ" out of Christmas. So I stopped writing it like that, idk if that's why she was asking.

Ooooooo I had no idea anyone did it for a reason. It's just a long word and I get tired of writing it out every time.

Message edited 11/7/2015 8:05:50 PM.

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Posted by PearlJamChick

Ah, I love the smell of uninformed internet rage and keyboard pitchforks first thing in the morning

Santa is still going to be there, folks. They changed the decor, big whoop. Go somewhere else if you don't like it.

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Just wanted to add, I obviously have Zero use for the whole set up either way bc I don't have children. AND I'm kind of a Scrooge in general bc Christmas (all holidays really) are a pain in the ass with my family - DRAMA DRAMA DRAMA plus the fact that malls during the holidays makes me want to rip my own fingernails off...
But
I actually enjoy the elaborate Christmas scenery with Santa every year at all the malls. Especially RF mall. It's kind of the only thing I truly enjoy about the Christmas season. The big tree, the wooden soldiers, etc etc etc. if they have these pods everywhere, I'll kinda miss it.

I see everyone's point. Some people are really outraged because they were expecting the same thing they look forward to every year - it's tradition. And others are ok with the new change. Maybe tradition isn't #1 on their list. Either way - it's fine to feel the way you feel. Going tit for tat on here and pretty much faulting people for their feelings about it isn't nice. How about if you don't agree with people's outrage, you ignore it. Same as the people who are upset are supposed to just not go.