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Re: Saw this picture on Pinterest and it made me cry
oh wow. my eyes welled up instantly.
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Posted 9/3/11 11:14 AM |
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lynnd126
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Re: Saw this picture on Pinterest and it made me cry
Posted by memi7206
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Posted by maybebaby
My husband deployed at the end of May for a 6 month training tour in afghanistan...believe me, nothing prepares you for the reaction of actually saying goodbye. You rehearse it, say how strong you'll be and not show the kids how upset you are, but when the cab pulled up outside our home to take him to the airport, my husband broke down sobbing...
We are NOT military and he will never have to do this again. I DO NOT KNOW how people do it all the time and for longer than 6 months. I have made friends with moms who have spent most of their marriages apart...its becomes their new "normal" but I don't think i could ever do it. Thank GOD there are people in this world who can and are strong enough to get through this kind of life...I pray everyday for God to watch over everyone in these godforsaken warzones.
I'm not trying to be a jerk but if he's not in the military why do you refer to his time abroad as "deployment"?
Sorry, but the terminology kind of gets me because only military are deployed...they do not get a choice or say in the matter. Maybe I'm sensitive because my sister is on her 2nd deployment and she is a member of the U.S. Navy. My BIL returned last year from his deployment from Iraq, he's done 2 tours there as part of the Army and there's talk he may have to return for a third. Just not sure it's right for you to use that term for someone who is there voluntarily.
Im glad someone said it, Ive thought this all along but kept my mouth shut. I thought the same thing when we have had a family member actually deployed into actual combat three times already.
I mean yes, technically by definition she can use the word deployed, I just dont think its appropriate given that it implies he is a soldier fighting on the front lines away from his family for years for his country. I will never know the pain of being a military wife but I have friends that are and its a totally different ballgame - it rubbed me the wrong way bc its misleading.
So the word deployed is only for soldiers fighting? What about the soldiers that aren't fighting? Like medical personnel or mechanics? Or is that not considered a "soldier"? I'm just asking b/c I'm curious. I never thought about "deployment" meaning something other than going to war- but at the same time I never heard of the specifics some of you mentioned like it being involuntary and/or being soldiers on the front line of battle, etc.
Also, what other occupations involve "training tours in Afghanistan"? Like maybe some kind of oil jobs or something? Or construction having to do with the oil?
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Posted 9/3/11 1:55 PM |
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Porrruss
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Re: Saw this picture on Pinterest and it made me cry
Posted by lynnd126
So the word deployed is only for soldiers fighting? What about the soldiers that aren't fighting? Like medical personnel or mechanics? Or is that not considered a "soldier"? I'm just asking b/c I'm curious. I never thought about "deployment" meaning something other than going to war- but at the same time I never heard of the specifics some of you mentioned like it being involuntary and/or being soldiers on the front line of battle, etc.
Also, what other occupations involve "training tours in Afghanistan"? Like maybe some kind of oil jobs or something? Or construction having to do with the oil?
The way I see it is if you are NOT military and you go voluntarily (meaning you have a CHOICE), and especially if you are making $$$$$$ for going, then no, it should NOT be referred to as a deployment.
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Posted 9/3/11 2:03 PM |
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lynnd126
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Re: Saw this picture on Pinterest and it made me cry
Posted by Porrruss
Posted by lynnd126
So the word deployed is only for soldiers fighting? What about the soldiers that aren't fighting? Like medical personnel or mechanics? Or is that not considered a "soldier"? I'm just asking b/c I'm curious. I never thought about "deployment" meaning something other than going to war- but at the same time I never heard of the specifics some of you mentioned like it being involuntary and/or being soldiers on the front line of battle, etc.
Also, what other occupations involve "training tours in Afghanistan"? Like maybe some kind of oil jobs or something? Or construction having to do with the oil?
The way I see it is if you are NOT military and you go voluntarily (meaning you have a CHOICE), and especially if you are making $$$$$$ for going, then no, it should NOT be referred to as a deployment.
Ok. So the poster's DH is basically just there on business but she is calling it deployment? I guess the training part confused me as to what he was doing there. Not that it's really any of my beeswax, lol, but my kid is at the park with DH and I'm bored on LIF procrastinating laundry.
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Posted 9/3/11 2:11 PM |
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Are we really going to argue definitions with a poster who won't see her dh until late November ? Really? I'm military wife. I've said goodbye and hoped for the best while he was fighting a war. Worst thing ever to say goodbye But I still feel for maybebaby and her kds. I don't care what she calls it. If memory serves me correct , her dh couldn't come home easily if he wanted too, if at all. Who cares what term it is. If I called my husbands deployment a business trip, would it have made it any easier on me? No.
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Posted 9/3/11 7:21 PM |
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Reese1106
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Re: Saw this picture on Pinterest and it made me cry
Posted by CaMacho
Wow yea instant tears.
Same here! You can just see the raw emotion on her face. So moving.
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Posted 9/3/11 7:27 PM |
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Mrs213
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Re: Saw this picture on Pinterest and it made me cry
It melted my heart but I didn't cry...
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Posted 9/3/11 7:30 PM |
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JEKS1219
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Re: Saw this picture on Pinterest and it made me cry
Pretty sure that other agencies have mandatory deployment to war zone regions. How about the Department of State and FBI. Just because they don't have fatigues on does not mean that they were not deployed.
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Posted 9/3/11 7:32 PM |
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Posted by tryin4no2
Pretty sure that other agencies have mandatory deployment to war zone regions. How about the Department of State and FBI. Just because they don't have fatigues on does not mean that they were not deployed.
Exactly. Also, it's not like military don't get paid for going overseas..in fact, they are usually paid MORE for going overseas, and sometimes before a deployment, they ask who wants to VOLUNTEER to go first, before filling the rest of the spots.
Does that diminish what they do? No. So, who cares if the poster's DH got a financial benefit from going?
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Posted 9/3/11 8:39 PM |
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headoverheels
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Re: Saw this picture on Pinterest and it made me cry
Posted by LadyBugN2Buggies
Posted by tryin4no2
Pretty sure that other agencies have mandatory deployment to war zone regions. How about the Department of State and FBI. Just because they don't have fatigues on does not mean that they were not deployed.
Exactly. Also, it's not like military don't get paid for going overseas..in fact, they are usually paid MORE for going overseas, and sometimes before a deployment, they ask who wants to VOLUNTEER to go first, before filling the rest of the spots.
Does that diminish what they do? No. So, who cares if the poster's DH got a financial benefit from going?
I think the only thing being questioned is her use of the word deployment, which is a military term (according to the internet dictionary) and implies that he had no choice, that's all.
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Posted 9/3/11 10:21 PM |
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Mrs213
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Re: Saw this picture on Pinterest and it made me cry
The definition of deployment is to position troops in readiness for combat
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Posted 9/3/11 11:57 PM |
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maybemommy10
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Re: Saw this picture on Pinterest and it made me cry
I see it as a reunion too and
I do not think anyone meant to "offend" anyone by using the wrong word. Not seeing your DH while he is a war zone especially with young kids at home must be excruciating
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Posted 9/4/11 10:51 AM |
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Re: Saw this picture on Pinterest and it made me cry
Posted by Mrs213
The definition of deployment is to position troops in readiness for combat . Not according to Miriam Webster. It can be used for other scenarios.
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Posted 9/4/11 11:14 AM |
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maybebaby
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Re: Saw this picture on Pinterest and it made me cry
Posted by lovemyfamily88
Posted by LightUpOurLife
Posted by maybebaby
My husband deployed at the end of May for a 6 month training tour in afghanistan...believe me, nothing prepares you for the reaction of actually saying goodbye. You rehearse it, say how strong you'll be and not show the kids how upset you are, but when the cab pulled up outside our home to take him to the airport, my husband broke down sobbing...
We are NOT military and he will never have to do this again. I DO NOT KNOW how people do it all the time and for longer than 6 months. I have made friends with moms who have spent most of their marriages apart...its becomes their new "normal" but I don't think i could ever do it. Thank GOD there are people in this world who can and are strong enough to get through this kind of life...I pray everyday for God to watch over everyone in these godforsaken warzones.
Oh, in the past I thought you were a military spouse when you said deployed. Deployed means combat, no?
I thought the same thing. Please don't use this term. It's disrespectful to the men and woman( my brother included) who risk thier lives fighting for our country.
I think you should check your facts about who is risking their lives. My DH as well has risked a lot to do what he is doing...he is certainly "Deployed" but his contribution is just a bit different that those who are actively fighting. Just like my marine brother who does air traffic control, or like the army battle captain who works from an office.
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Posted 9/4/11 11:22 AM |
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maybebaby
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Re: Saw this picture on Pinterest and it made me cry
Posted by headoverheels
Posted by LadyBugN2Buggies
Posted by tryin4no2
Pretty sure that other agencies have mandatory deployment to war zone regions. How about the Department of State and FBI. Just because they don't have fatigues on does not mean that they were not deployed.
Exactly. Also, it's not like military don't get paid for going overseas..in fact, they are usually paid MORE for going overseas, and sometimes before a deployment, they ask who wants to VOLUNTEER to go first, before filling the rest of the spots.
Does that diminish what they do? No. So, who cares if the poster's DH got a financial benefit from going?
I think the only thing being questioned is her use of the word deployment, which is a military term (according to the internet dictionary) and implies that he had no choice, that's all.
Well, if you go to my husbands job you would see a posting for deployment opportunities to train...it may be volunteer in the end (no one FORCED dh to go) but it was STRONGLY STRONGLY suggested he do this to get where he needs to be. It was an agonizing decision for us..one that made very carefully and all the paperwork, training and everything was certainly called "For Johns deployment to kandahar, afghanistan".
He had weapons training, combat training, mental health screenings, aircraft classes etc and it certainly FEELS like a deployment to us
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Posted 9/4/11 11:25 AM |
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headoverheels
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Re: Saw this picture on Pinterest and it made me cry
Posted by maybebaby
Posted by headoverheels
Posted by LadyBugN2Buggies
Posted by tryin4no2
Pretty sure that other agencies have mandatory deployment to war zone regions. How about the Department of State and FBI. Just because they don't have fatigues on does not mean that they were not deployed.
Exactly. Also, it's not like military don't get paid for going overseas..in fact, they are usually paid MORE for going overseas, and sometimes before a deployment, they ask who wants to VOLUNTEER to go first, before filling the rest of the spots.
Does that diminish what they do? No. So, who cares if the poster's DH got a financial benefit from going?
I think the only thing being questioned is her use of the word deployment, which is a military term (according to the internet dictionary) and implies that he had no choice, that's all.
Well, if you go to my husbands job you would see a posting for deployment opportunities to train...it may be volunteer in the end (no one FORCED dh to go) but it was STRONGLY STRONGLY suggested he do this to get where he needs to be. It was an agonizing decision for us..one that made very carefully and all the paperwork, training and everything was certainly called "For Johns deployment to kandahar, afghanistan".
He had weapons training, combat training, mental health screenings, aircraft classes etc and it certainly FEELS like a deployment to us
I'm not questioning your use of the term, I was only trying to clarify for anyone who might not have understood the argument or was bringing the money issue into it, that's all
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Posted 9/4/11 12:01 PM |
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sultana
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Re: Saw this picture on Pinterest and it made me cry
For years I worked for AMC bringing service men and woman to the middle east. The airline would ask for volunteers than assign. We would fly with our gas masks knowing we were in a warzone. When the plane would land and we would open the doors at times the some troops would have all thier ammunition pointed out (with my head in a direct path inches away) as I opened the doors. We only used "deployment" for troops. "those working/flying in Theature Zones" was used for myself, newscrews, and those in security companies even though we all faced a risk. I do NOT know when the term should be used. I only know HOW it was used where I worked. For some reason it was only used on military. So I do not agree ot disagree with the poster. I am only sharing my experience. Either way it is very difficult for her knowing where her husband is and I will continue to pray for his safety along with all Americans in the region. There are many facets of employment over there and the risk factor should not be downplayed no matter the occupation. There are support groups and maybe that may help during this time apart. I commend and thank all the military famalies and those Americans with spouses or families there. without them all these years we may not have a forum to chat so freely
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Posted 9/4/11 12:11 PM |
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cds58019
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Re: Saw this picture on Pinterest and it made me cry
Regardless of how you feel about the word deployment, the fact that some of you felt the need to tell her she was being disrespectful was downright harsh and cruel. Her husband may not be military but he's in the same dangerous areas that they are and will be there for months. As if this time period hasn't been hard enough on her you guys come along and kick her when she's down. Shame on all of you.
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Posted 9/4/11 12:19 PM |
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Re: Saw this picture on Pinterest and it made me cry
Posted by LadyBugN2Buggies
Are we really going to argue definitions with a poster who won't see her dh until late November ? Really? I'm military wife. I've said goodbye and hoped for the best while he was fighting a war. Worst thing ever to say goodbye But I still feel for maybebaby and her kds. I don't care what she calls it. If memory serves me correct , her dh couldn't come home easily if he wanted too, if at all. Who cares what term it is. If I called my husbands deployment a business trip, would it have made it any easier on me? No.
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Posted 9/4/11 12:27 PM |
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sultana
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Re: Saw this picture on Pinterest and it made me cry
back to the op it looks like a commercial airport where this photo was taken. So most likely this is a returning solider being reunited. Amazing photo- really heartwrenching
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Posted 9/4/11 12:39 PM |
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Re: Saw this picture on Pinterest and it made me cry
Posted by cds58019
Regardless of how you feel about the word deployment, the fact that some of you felt the need to tell her she was being disrespectful was downright harsh and cruel. Her husband may not be military but he's in the same dangerous areas that they are and will be there for months. As if this time period hasn't been hard enough on her you guys come along and kick her when she's down. Shame on all of you.
ITA!!!!!
Wow!!! Sorry to that poster for having to read all of these comments. I just dont get it. As women we should help each other out, build each other up, learn to be kind to one another.
It is a common trend for some individuals to act like this... It's ashame!
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Posted 9/4/11 12:42 PM |
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maybebaby
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Re: Saw this picture on Pinterest and it made me cry
Posted by bride07
Posted by cds58019
Regardless of how you feel about the word deployment, the fact that some of you felt the need to tell her she was being disrespectful was downright harsh and cruel. Her husband may not be military but he's in the same dangerous areas that they are and will be there for months. As if this time period hasn't been hard enough on her you guys come along and kick her when she's down. Shame on all of you.
ITA!!!!!
Wow!!! Sorry to that poster for having to read all of these comments. I just dont get it. As women we should help each other out, build each other up, learn to be kind to one another.
It is a common trend for some individuals to act like this... It's ashame!
Thanks to everyone who has kind words.
I think it just really hurt because i was always so excited to update here that we were getting through it, time was passing, etc...that the boys cannot wait to see their dad again...and then i read some comments and seriously it just HURT. I thought this site was for helping people and not criticizing something so trivial as a TERM for what my DH is doing. It's shameful to me. I would never ever ever make another person feel the way i was made to feel today.
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Posted 9/4/11 12:53 PM |
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maybebaby
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Re: Saw this picture on Pinterest and it made me cry
Posted by lynnd126
Posted by Porrruss
Posted by lynnd126
So the word deployed is only for soldiers fighting? What about the soldiers that aren't fighting? Like medical personnel or mechanics? Or is that not considered a "soldier"? I'm just asking b/c I'm curious. I never thought about "deployment" meaning something other than going to war- but at the same time I never heard of the specifics some of you mentioned like it being involuntary and/or being soldiers on the front line of battle, etc.
Also, what other occupations involve "training tours in Afghanistan"? Like maybe some kind of oil jobs or something? Or construction having to do with the oil?
The way I see it is if you are NOT military and you go voluntarily (meaning you have a CHOICE), and especially if you are making $$$$$$ for going, then no, it should NOT be referred to as a deployment.
Ok. So the poster's DH is basically just there on business but she is calling it deployment? I guess the training part confused me as to what he was doing there. Not that it's really any of my beeswax, lol, but my kid is at the park with DH and I'm bored on LIF procrastinating laundry.
If working in a warzone that is bombed, air sirens ringing all day, zoning in on threatened terrorist activity for 14 hours straight, walking across 1.5 miles of outdoor ground carrying a gun to work is called "just there on business" then yup, hes just there on business. I just like to call it deployment for fun, because its a walk in the park.
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Posted 9/4/11 12:57 PM |
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sultana
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It is just a term and some of us were sharing how it is used. you should not be made to feel upset and as we learned today the "term" has different facets. dont feel hurt, you need your strength right now and i am curious if there are any support groups maybe within your husbands job where you can interact with others like yourself during these times???? I know it may not seem like much but it can help and a support system is important.
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Posted 9/4/11 12:58 PM |
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maybebaby
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Re: Saw this picture on Pinterest and it made me cry
Posted by sultana
It is just a term and some of us were sharing how it is used. you should not be made to feel upset and as we learned today the "term" has different facets. dont feel hurt, you need your strength right now and i am curious if there are any support groups maybe within your husbands job where you can interact with others like yourself during these times???? I know it may not seem like much but it can help and a support system is important.
Its funny..i do belong to a group. It's one run through the agency and its for spouses of deployed families. Lol.
Thank you for the words. I appreciate it! I should't be this upset. I honestly and so so tired and drained from taking care of my kids and not having family right here to help. It has not been easy. No matter what people want to call it, unless they have been through it, they can never understand.
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