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nrthshgrl
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School related: Would this annoy you?

Your child is in trouble at school. They have to write a note of apology & are told to have BOTH parents sign it.

The teacher explained it was because there may be one parent that lets things slide & the other doesn't.

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Nothing slides in our house. The kids get punished the day we get a phone call or email but i think how a parent choses to punish their kid is their business (aside from abuse). What do you think?

I'm actually really annoyed by it as I feel like the assumption is it's the mom that doesn't punish. My mom once asked my kid what is worse, if someone says "I'm going to call your father?" or "I'm going to call your mother?" Both of my kids said they were equally as scary to them.

Posted 5/11/11 11:51 AM
 

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Re: School related: Would this annoy you?

No, I don't think that is appropriate. There are many households that there is only one parent present to discipline (or not), so what's the difference?

Posted 5/11/11 11:57 AM
 

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Re: School related: Would this annoy you?

Annoyed. They don't get to tell you how to communicate with your spouse.

Posted 5/11/11 12:31 PM
 

CathyB

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Re: School related: Would this annoy you?

That would annoy me too.

Posted 5/11/11 12:40 PM
 

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Re: School related: Would this annoy you?

That would definitely annoy me.

Posted 5/11/11 12:56 PM
 

GoldenRod
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Re: School related: Would this annoy you?

So, for single moms, you have to go out and find a husband just to sign off on this? What if SO is deployed overseas?

Even for the typical setup, it's not up to the school to decide how DC is punished at home.... Chat Icon

Posted 5/11/11 1:29 PM
 

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Re: School related: Would this annoy you?

I am going to go with no. But we aren't there yet, so nothing is set in stone.

I think teachers now have it harder then ever. If they feel this will help the situation and possibly reach a solution...then I am for it.

Posted 5/11/11 1:34 PM
 

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Re: School related: Would this annoy you?

I would not be annoyed. I don't think it's an assumption but yet a policy. I am sure that if there is a single parent situation that the school would understand.

Unfortunately there are households where parents do not communicate.

Posted 5/11/11 2:30 PM
 

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Re: School related: Would this annoy you?

Posted by Janice

I am going to go with no. But we aren't there yet, so nothing is set in stone.

I think teachers now have it harder then ever. If they feel this will help the situation and possibly reach a solution...then I am for it.



Ditto.

And in the case of a single parent family I'm sure the teacher would be aware of the sitauation and ammend the requirements as necessary.Chat Icon

Posted 5/11/11 2:31 PM
 

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Re: School related: Would this annoy you?

Posted by PatsBrat

Posted by Janice

I am going to go with no. But we aren't there yet, so nothing is set in stone.

I think teachers now have it harder then ever. If they feel this will help the situation and possibly reach a solution...then I am for it.



Ditto.

And in the case of a single parent family I'm sure the teacher would be aware of the sitauation and ammend the requirements as necessary.Chat Icon



I think the "rolleyes" is unnecessary as not all teachers would be sensitive all parental circumstances. What if a parent were away for business, what if they were sick in the hospital...etc etc. I find it insulting that a teacher is assuming one parent "let's things slide". So yeah, I'd be annoyed.

There are other ways of saying things without insulting people.

Posted 5/11/11 2:49 PM
 

PatsBrat
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Re: School related: Would this annoy you?

Posted by Little-J-Mommy

Posted by PatsBrat

Posted by Janice

I am going to go with no. But we aren't there yet, so nothing is set in stone.

I think teachers now have it harder then ever. If they feel this will help the situation and possibly reach a solution...then I am for it.



Ditto.

And in the case of a single parent family I'm sure the teacher would be aware of the sitauation and ammend the requirements as necessary.Chat Icon



I think the "rolleyes" is unnecessary as not all teachers would be sensitive all parental circumstances. What if a parent were away for business, what if they were sick in the hospital...etc etc. I find it insulting that a teacher is assuming one parent "let's things slide". So yeah, I'd be annoyed.

There are other ways of saying things without insulting people.



I respect your opinion but I stand by my eyeroll. It seems that most parents on this board are constantly annoyed by teachers and/or throw them under the bus. THAT annoys me. Most teachers ARE sensitive to parental situations (it's part of the job) and why can't a parent email the teacher explaining extenuating circumstances? Why does everything has to be an annoyance?

Posted 5/11/11 3:30 PM
 

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Re: School related: Would this annoy you?

Posted by PatsBrat

I respect your opinion but I stand by my eyeroll. It seems that most parents on this board are constantly annoyed by teachers and/or throw them under the bus. THAT annoys me. Most teachers ARE sensitive to parental situations (it's part of the job) and why can't a parent email the teacher explaining extenuating circumstances? Why does everything has to be an annoyance?



I understand what you are saying, and for the most part I agree with you that teachers are getting thrown under the bus left and right lately. I was just talking to a friend of mine who teaches in FL about this today.

In this specific case, I think that asking for both parents to sign an apology from a student is overkill, and therefore would annoy me.

Posted 5/11/11 4:07 PM
 

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Re: School related: Would this annoy you?

I must be jaded from teaching Middle School for a few years, but my initial reaction is 2 signatures are harder to forge than 1, so that's why they require it Chat Icon . Didn't think it was because one parent might let it slide.

But . . . I am also sure somewhere in that district something probably went down and 1 parent pulled the "I didn't know what was going on" card, and now the district wants as much as possible in writing. Just another level of CYA.

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Posted 5/11/11 4:44 PM
 

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Re: School related: Would this annoy you?

Posted by Karen

But . . . I am also sure somewhere in that district something probably went down and 1 parent pulled the "I didn't know what was going on" card, and now the district wants as much as possible in writing. Just another level of CYA.



This is the first thought that entered my mind when I read this-- CYA. I'm sure this is the direct result of some prior incident in the district. Annoying, but just one of those things. I'm sure that if your kid was in a single parent home (even if it was temporary like a deployment), you could just communicate that to the teacher and they'd understand.

Posted 5/11/11 5:03 PM
 

nrthshgrl
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Re: School related: Would this annoy you?

Posted by PatsBrat

I respect your opinion but I stand by my eyeroll. It seems that most parents on this board are constantly annoyed by teachers and/or throw them under the bus. THAT annoys me. Most teachers ARE sensitive to parental situations (it's part of the job) and why can't a parent email the teacher explaining extenuating circumstances? Why does everything has to be an annoyance?



I'm annoyed that the teacher would tell my kid that. As for throwing teachers under the bus, I consider myself pretty fair when it comes to teachers so I don't think your eyeroll was warranted.

For the record, it was elementary school & this was because several kids (mine included) were "cutting corners" instead of running around the cone in gym class. They needed to write a note of apology to the gym teacher & to the class for cheating.

There was no extenuating circumstances as we do have two parents in the household. What I find aggravating is the assumption that one parent cannot handle a school situation as they see fit without "checking with the other parent". There were other kids involved so this comment about a parent letting things slide may not have even been directed at my child. Either way I found it completely unnecessary.

The minute I got the email saying a note was coming home, I texted DH to tell him to look for a note & ground the kid for the offense -whatever it was (since the reason wasn't in the email).

We both dole out punishments but DH tends to think that I go over the top with extended grounding. The last time I had a dinner meeting at work, I came home to DH's punishment of this:
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Posted 5/11/11 7:23 PM
 

Kris
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Re: School related: Would this annoy you?

I would be annoyed at the commentary, not at the fact of having 2 parents' signatures. What is the big deal for both of you to sign it?

Posted 5/11/11 8:27 PM
 

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Re: School related: Would this annoy you?

I understand being annoyed at the reasoning BUT I have to say that I know a few households that would benefit from having this kind of policy in their child's school!

Many of the moms I know would hide this information from the dads, which is totally unfair and sends the wrong message IMO - so I see where the teacher is coming from!

Posted 5/12/11 6:29 AM
 

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Posted by Tilde

I understand being annoyed at the reasoning BUT I have to say that I know a few households that would benefit from having this kind of policy in their child's school!

Many of the moms I know would hide this information from the dads, which is totally unfair and sends the wrong message IMO - so I see where the teacher is coming from!



I have to agree. I really don't think it is a big deal. I don't see it is as them telling me how parent. They just want another signature. Not really any different to me than a form that requires 2 signatures.

I will also say that, I wish my brothers school had this policy because I know my mom doesn't tell my dad everything and he should know.

Posted 5/12/11 10:36 AM
 

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Re: School related: Would this annoy you?

I don't think it would annoy me.
For me it would prove as recognition to my child that both parents (mommy and daddy, or whomever are the guardians for the child) are made aware of what is going on or has happened and are both in agreement with him/her writing the apology letter and then signing it.

I know my husband and I sometimes have a different manner of disciplining our children when we are on our own. I am with them all day and tend to discipline more than my husband - so for them to see that we are on the same page when something goes wrong at school and acknowledge it by signing an apology letter that the teacher instructed we do is a good idea.

For the record i remember always being more scared of my dad than my mom if i did something wrong...lol.
Every household is different - but I think the teacher may have a good point.

Posted 5/12/11 7:57 PM
 

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Re: School related: Would this annoy you?

I read it more of bringing the family together to address the issue. I think lots of kids would say that one parent is stricter then the other. For me, I feared my mom. I believe my kids fear their dad more(even though I am strict)
It would not bother me because DH would show me the note as I would him, anyway.

Posted 5/12/11 11:09 PM
 

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Re: School related: Would this annoy you?

It would annoy me.

Even if I were the easiest going parent in the world - and my husband were teh 'big bad' - it doesn't give anyone the right to dictate that both need to know, sign off, etc..

Also - it's kind of pointless. I can sign my husband's name as easily as I can sign my own. Are they going to put it under a signature verification test to be sure both parents signed?

Regardless - I would have found it to be mildly annoying. I would likely have signed my name and then signed my name where my husband's 'should be' with a little 'in lieu of' - and let that sit with thm.

Posted 5/12/11 11:57 PM
 

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Re: School related: Would this annoy you?

The only reason it would annoy me is that my DH works a different shift then I do and I would have to get him to remember to sign it when he gets home at 1am when I am sleeping, which he would prob forget to do Chat Icon

Posted 5/13/11 9:13 AM
 

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Re: School related: Would this annoy you?

Posted by rojerono


Regardless - I would have found it to be mildly annoying. I would likely have signed my name and then signed my name where my husband's 'should be' with a little 'in lieu of' - and let that sit with thm.



I'm totally doing this next time. Because DH left without signing the note & the kid was distraught over it, missed recess because he didn't hand it in because DH did not sign it.

Posted 5/13/11 9:57 AM
 

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Annoyed. They don't get to tell you how to communicate with your spouse.



This.
And there are some weeks when DH and i hardly speak in person because of schedules.

I just think its a poor excuse for an equally poor rule.

Posted 5/13/11 4:42 PM
 

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Re: School related: Would this annoy you?

It wouldn't annoy me but I think it's highly inappropriate.

Posted 5/13/11 5:08 PM
 
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