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hotsauce345
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Re: So apparently there is a "child free" movement brewing...
people like her should have been banned from being born. what an a hole! it's so easy for people to forget those screaming banshee children were once them! I'm all for controlling your children in public places and if my son has a fit in a store I walk right out to calm him and i'd do the same in a restaurant...but to BAN children...i'd never spend a dime in those places again!
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Re: So apparently there is a "child free" movement brewing...
Posted by HomeIsWithU
Certain very upscale restaurants I can understand this (I'm talking like steak house upscale where you're spending $200 for a meal), but movie theaters, regular restaurants, condominium outdoor areas?? That's just age discrimination IMO and there's no reason for it. Children are a part of life whether you have them or not. Get over it. Dont like it? Dont leave the house. The whole idea of this is just silly IMO.
ETA: I forgot abot grocery stores. How are parents supposed to go grocery shopping without their children. I'm a single mom and I dont have the luxury of going foodshopping while my husband watches my child. If I go food shopping, DS goes food shopping too. And even if my food store offered "child care" while I shop, I would not use it. I don't know these people...I'm not leaving my 2 year old with some random grocery store worker. This is absurd! People have been taking their children grocery shopping for decades. I wasnt aware that food stores were for adults only 
LOL some of it is just ridiculous.
People DO need to get over themselves.
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| Posted 7/27/11 1:02 PM |
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jerseypanda
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Re: So apparently there is a "child free" movement brewing...
I just feel like this is the tip of the iceberg and we are just teetering on the edge of insanity.
OK, so after banning children, how about we ban ugly people from restaurants because I don't want to look at them when I'm eating? Or let's ban all the d-bags from any public place because they make me angry and annoyed.
I know I'm taking it a bit far, but I just feel like there will always be a reason to get annoyed someplace by someone. If it weren't for people having children, the person writing the article wouldn't be here.... get a grip.
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| Posted 7/27/11 1:06 PM |
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hotsauce345
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Re: So apparently there is a "child free" movement brewing...
Posted by jerseypanda
I just feel like this is the tip of the iceberg and we are just teetering on the edge of insanity.
OK, so after banning children, how about we ban ugly people from restaurants because I don't want to look at them when I'm eating? Or let's ban all the d-bags from any public place because they make me angry and annoyed.
I know I'm taking it a bit far, but I just feel like there will always be a reason to get annoyed someplace by someone. If it weren't for people having children, the person writing the article wouldn't be here.... get a grip.
i agree! I find myself sometimes looking at a mom in a restaurant who is allowing her child to have a meltdown and wail about and thinking "god, control your child lady, this is a restaurant" or looking at people who take their kids to a restaurant at 11-12pm and think "why is your baby out at this hour??" but thats my judgement on THIER PARENTING not wether or not the child should be allowed there.
when did we become too jaded to deal with our very own existence??
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| Posted 7/27/11 1:13 PM |
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Re: So apparently there is a "child free" movement brewing...
Posted by MrsMeloyellow
Posted by jerseypanda
I just feel like this is the tip of the iceberg and we are just teetering on the edge of insanity.
OK, so after banning children, how about we ban ugly people from restaurants because I don't want to look at them when I'm eating? Or let's ban all the d-bags from any public place because they make me angry and annoyed.
I know I'm taking it a bit far, but I just feel like there will always be a reason to get annoyed someplace by someone. If it weren't for people having children, the person writing the article wouldn't be here.... get a grip.
i agree! I find myself sometimes looking at a mom in a restaurant who is allowing her child to have a meltdown and wail about and thinking "god, control your child lady, this is a restaurant" or looking at people who take their kids to a restaurant at 11-12pm and think "why is your baby out at this hour??" but thats my judgement on THIER PARENTING not wether or not the child should be allowed there.
when did we become too jaded to deal with our very own existence??
I am sorry I can't pay attention to you bc your avatar is SO FRICKEN ADORABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  seriously, how can anyone look at that and NOT want a baby around!!!!
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| Posted 7/27/11 1:19 PM |
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Re: So apparently there is a "child free" movement brewing...
Posted by Tilde
I think this directly follows the "lack of discipline" movement that parents seem to be so fond of! 
I just posted this article and a similar comment on FB. That article really irritated me, especially the term" brat ban." Why blame the children when in fact it's parents' fault for not instilling discipline?!
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| Posted 7/27/11 1:19 PM |
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So where does it end? Look i'm all for upscale eateries to say no kids, i'm all for Sandals for adults only, and i'm all for a grocery store that will offer childcare so I can shop in peace, but really?? Really? My question is how can we then expect a 6 or 7 year old to know "how to act" if they have never been in these situations. Flame if you want but just because some people choose to not discipline there kids does NOT mean I do the same. Don't you think I see the glares, snotty looks, eye rolling, rock paper scissors for who DOESN"T have to wait on us because we have a 19 month old. Well the joke has ALWAYS been on them because MY daughter KNOWS the expectation when we go out and at the VERY 1st sign of an issue we leave. I also take THE TIME to PLAN an outing. I come prepared with Cherrios, juice, and activities to keep her entertained. I also make sure it's at the right time as to not have a nap time melt down, or an i'm starving meltdown. MY daughter is friendly and does GREAT at a restaurant. Now is she perfect NOPE, am I perfect NOPE, but that DOES NOT mean that ANYBODY has the right to tell me MY CHILD is to much of a pain to be served, and that, IMHO is what this is saying. SHAME on these people taking it to extremes. I also want to add that the baby boomer generation is always criticizing this younger generation of parents, we’re not strict enough, we’re not this, we’re not that, and so on, but I have to say I have yet to meet a generation that seems to feel as entitled as they do in a lot of ways. This is the start of a soap box for me so I’ll move on, but it just makes me sick
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| Posted 7/27/11 1:27 PM |
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Re: So apparently there is a "child free" movement brewing...
Posted by Dollface
Personally, i don't bring my toddler to upscale restaurants. We did once and I had so much anxiety that she would misbehave that I could even enjoy my (very) expensive meal. (She was perfectly fine, by the way. She's a pretty good girl.  )
When I go out to a bar, I don't really want to see/hear/think about little kids.
I was getting a mani/pedi on Sunday and there were two moms who brought their little girls (about 5 years old) for manis/pedis too. It was crowded, the girls kept smudging their nails, bumping into other patrons, the moms were getting impatient, chastising their daughters. I needed to go for a massage after that.
So, while I think that the "movement" is kind of silly and mean-spirited, I do agree that there should be some places that remain kid-free, though there doesn't have to be a logo for it. It's more of a common sense thing to me.
exactly. i think it's up to the parents to be smart enough to know where and when to bring your kids. Kids at the movies does not make sense to me (unless it's a kids movie) but i've seen plenty of parents bring their newborn and expect to sit through the whole adult action flick. 
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| Posted 7/27/11 1:31 PM |
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Re: So apparently there is a "child free" movement brewing...
Posted by pnbplus1
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I think this directly follows the "lack of discipline" movement that parents seem to be so fond of!
I just posted this article and a similar comment on FB. That article really irritated me, especially the term" brat ban." Why blame the children when in fact it's parents' fault for not instilling discipline?!
I was just going to post this. "Brat ban" is awful. Referrng to children as brats really, REALLY irks me. (Even if they are having bratty moments..I just hate that term.)
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| Posted 7/27/11 1:34 PM |
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Re: So apparently there is a "child free" movement brewing...
Posted by Michelle1123
I dont know - I'm not bothered by this.
I spend a ton of money when I go out with our kids. If these places dont want my business, I'd rather give to someone who does.
I also do understand why people without kids would want to travel, go out to dinner, go to a movie, etc. without having children around.
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Posted by jerseypanda
I just feel like this is the tip of the iceberg and we are just teetering on the edge of insanity.
OK, so after banning children, how about we ban ugly people from restaurants because I don't want to look at them when I'm eating? Or let's ban all the d-bags from any public place because they make me angry and annoyed.
I know I'm taking it a bit far, but I just feel like there will always be a reason to get annoyed someplace by someone. If it weren't for people having children, the person writing the article wouldn't be here.... get a grip.
I don't see it as the tip of the iceberg at all. First, there will ALWAYS be a market for people who want to bring their kids out. If a restaurant or store doesn't want children, I'm sure they'll have to work that into their marketing/business plans because a significant number of people do take their children out.
As for the ugly comment, I'm not seeing it go that route either. There are more ugly people than people that have children.
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| Posted 7/27/11 1:35 PM |
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Re: So apparently there is a "child free" movement brewing...
Exactly I am not saying that I was never bad or we didn't have issues, but a lot of adults with children these days don't teach kids respect or how to behave. I am (was) a first grade teacher. I saw first hand which children were disciplined and those that were not. My dd is 14 months and already has meltdowns in public. And we do everything everything we can to avoid them in certain places. If she is getting fussy or cranky in a restaurant we take her outside. I would not let her sit there and scream and ruin people's dinners.
I also think there is a time and place for children. If I am out with my husband for dinner around 9:00 spending 100.00 or more on dinner, my kids are home and I don't want it ruined by other kids.
ITA with you. I have older kids and I have to say that the kids in my younger child's class are less disciplined than my older. There is a 5 year age difference between them and I can definately tell a difference.
Parents basically give up. They give in and use excuses like "boys will be boys".
I have talked to many parents older than myself who have kids who are older and they agree with me.
"Some" parents are way too lax and their idea of "don't sweat the small stuff" is NOT small stuff, IMO.
I look like the bad parent because I discipline my kids at home or in public.
This is my job and the most important one I will ever have. If they leave my house being spoiled brats who feel the world owes them something, then I did not do my job.
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| Posted 7/27/11 1:43 PM |
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Re: So apparently there is a "child free" movement brewing...
Personally, I feel like America is acting like a big old grumpy man. It's a sad sad day when children (the future of our country) are treated like outcasts & no longer welcome in society.
If you teach parents to fear disciplining their children, and as a result their mannors become corrupted from babyhood- how now can you choose to ban them for what you yourself have created? I think it's fairly obvious that society first creates these undisciplined children and then tries to punish them for which they know no better. If you reprimand parents for yelling or spanking their children, then why are we surpsied when these children are out of control & disrespectful??
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Re: So apparently there is a "child free" movement brewing...
As far as I see it, I don't really care. My child does not have to go EVERYWHERE. If places want to be child-free, so be it. There's a market for that just like there's a market for child-friendly places. There are couples only resorts that are child-free, aren't there? It doesn't bother me one bit.
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| Posted 7/27/11 1:47 PM |
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hotsauce345
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Re: So apparently there is a "child free" movement brewing...
awww thank you...although If i made my avatar MY puffy eyes after last night...they may think twice about another baby LOL. j/k as tired as I am these days...it's the best reason I've ever had in my life to be tired!
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Posted by Dollface
Personally, i don't bring my toddler to upscale restaurants. We did once and I had so much anxiety that she would misbehave that I could even enjoy my (very) expensive meal. (She was perfectly fine, by the way. She's a pretty good girl. )
When I go out to a bar, I don't really want to see/hear/think about little kids.
I was getting a mani/pedi on Sunday and there were two moms who brought their little girls (about 5 years old) for manis/pedis too. It was crowded, the girls kept smudging their nails, bumping into other patrons, the moms were getting impatient, chastising their daughters. I needed to go for a massage after that.
So, while I think that the "movement" is kind of silly and mean-spirited, I do agree that there should be some places that remain kid-free, though there doesn't have to be a logo for it. It's more of a common sense thing to me.
ITA. Unfortunately "common sense" is not that "common"
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| Posted 7/27/11 2:03 PM |
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Re: So apparently there is a "child free" movement brewing...
I think some of the issue stems from parents not disciplining their children correctly. However, I also think more parents take their children out places with them today, and some of these places are not traditional family friendly places.
I do agree, if I'm out for dinner in a fancy restaurant with my DH (and our DS is home with a babysitter), I'm not keen on hearing someone else's kids whine the whole time. If I go out with friends to see an adult movie that starts at 10 pm, I don't particularly want someone's toddler babbling through the movie (believe it or not, this has happened). However, if I'm in a diner, pizza place, grocery store, any kind of store for that matter, or a 2 pm showing of the latest kid's movie, I expect to hear kids around me making noise. Same for beaches, pools, parks, etc.
But if you want to talk about the good old days, I also don't think parents chose to take their DCs to fancy restaurants or late night adult films in the good old days or not as much. So yes, there is some entitlement going on, JMO.
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| Posted 7/27/11 2:19 PM |
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Re: So apparently there is a "child free" movement brewing...
I think as much as it has to do with discipline, it has a lot to do with people not having kids in general and having no empathy because people around them don't really have kids.
So kids become these aliens that are just interrupting their lives.
People are having fewer kids and waiting longer to have them, leaving room for a lot of ignorance.
Personally, I really try to avoid taking DS to places, if I can help it. I don't think it adds anything to his experience and why bother. He has more fun with grandma anyway.
There is one place we do love to take him, if the timing is right, he is a superstar there, and we feel like family, but this is an ethnic restaurant and from a culture where you get married at 16 and pop out as many kids as you can. They love babies there, they make so much special attention and care, and they will even goof off and play with the baby when there are customers waiting for service. You'd think the boss would be mad, the boss comes over joins in. And the customers seem to delight in the show.
This is why I will not leave Brooklyn, shoot at me, threaten my life, steel mar car, pee on my stoop, I don't care. I love the range of culture here and love the attitude towards babies is different, and I truly believe its more to do with cultural differences than anything.
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Re: So apparently there is a "child free" movement brewing...
Posted by Ever-After
Personally, I feel like America is acting like a big old grumpy man. It's a sad sad day when children (the future of our country) are treated like outcasts & no longer welcome in society.
If you teach parents to fear disciplining their children, and as a result their mannors become corrupted from babyhood- how now can you choose to ban them for what you yourself have created? I think it's fairly obvious that society first creates these undisciplined children and then tries to punish them for which they know no better. If you reprimand parents for yelling or spanking their children, then why are we surpsied when these children are out of control & disrespectful??
 Well said!
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Re: So apparently there is a "child free" movement brewing...
Posted by jerseypanda
OK, so after banning children, how about we ban ugly people from restaurants because I don't want to look at them when I'm eating? Or let's ban all the d-bags from any public place because they make me angry and annoyed.
I think banning children from restaurants is taking it a bit too far.
But banning ugly people and d-bags... I'm all for that. If I didn't have to deal with the fugs of the world, then maybe I'd have more patience to deal with children.
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Re: So apparently there is a "child free" movement brewing...
Posted by StayForever
Posted by jerseypanda
OK, so after banning children, how about we ban ugly people from restaurants because I don't want to look at them when I'm eating? Or let's ban all the d-bags from any public place because they make me angry and annoyed.
I think banning children from restaurants is taking it a bit too far.
But banning ugly people and d-bags... I'm all for that. If I didn't have to deal with the fugs of the world, then maybe I'd have more patience to deal with children.
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Re: So apparently there is a "child free" movement brewing...
There is only one place that I fear kids being banned from-church.
Churches down here have room after room for child care centers.
My friends think I am nutty for having josh and jessie sit next to me in the pew.
Ushers are always telling me about the cry rooms and playrooms...as I walk into church, without even having sat down yet...kids completely quiet.
If my kids were to cry in church, I would leave. They don't. I feel like that is because they were trained to sit.
But-I can totally see my church having a child free mass in the future.
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| Posted 7/27/11 3:27 PM |
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hotsauce345
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Re: So apparently there is a "child free" movement brewing...
Posted by Janice
There is only one place that I fear kids being banned from-church.
Churches down here have room after room for child care centers.
My friends think I am nutty for having josh and jessie sit next to me in the pew.
Ushers are always telling me about the cry rooms and playrooms...as I walk into church, without even having sat down yet...kids completely quiet.
If my kids were to cry in church, I would leave. They don't. I feel like that is because they were trained to sit.
But-I can totally see my church having a child free mass in the future.
thats really sad
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Re: So apparently there is a "child free" movement brewing...
Posted by janedoe
Posted by Tilde
I think this directly follows the "lack of discipline" movement that parents seem to be so fond of!
I could not agree more!!!
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As someone that struggled for MANY years to have a baby, I have no issue with child-free whatever. In fact, during my IF journey, I craved MORE child-free options (esp for travel). Sometimes it isn't just about the "bratty" behavior, but what you are missing out on. Having places to go where you weren't constantly reminded of what you were going through was nice, very nice...
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| Posted 7/27/11 8:37 PM |
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Re: So apparently there is a "child free" movement brewing...
Posted by memi7206
i dont understand why everyone is always under the impression that "back in day" no one misbehaved, there were no undisciplined children.
People are so used to associating their "golden age" with Leave it to Beaver, and Donna Reed....I think people see the past through rosed colored glasses and need to get over themselves. I dont think its the children - I think its a lot of the selfishness and sense of entitlement with this new generation of adults - the me me me in society - "I" want a pleasnt dinner - I dont want to be disturbed by children.
i think its BS.
Really???
I worked in a restaurant for 10 years. 10 years of seeing kids run around, lay on the floor and the parents do nothing, nor even pay attention. Yes there are kids that misbehave, but i certainly don't blame anyone who doesn't want to be in the same restaurant as that!
I see nothing wrong with people wanting to enjoy their dinner. In my town there is a restaurant that has a sign saying "if you can't control your children, you will be asked to leave." There are rarely any kids that go to this restaurant (the owner makes good on his promise to ask people to leave) and the ones that do, are well behaved because the parents know not to bring them there unless they are.
Listen i have a 3 year old and one on the way. My son (luckily) is very well behaved in restaurants, but we've also taught him what was acceptable and what wasn't. If he wasn't behaving, we leave. End of story. He loves going out so 99% of the time, he behaves. We leave because i understand what it's like before kids and to want to enjoy a dinner in peace. I would never want to ruin someone else's dinner or evening. That's not fair because my kid is misbehaving, kwim?
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