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ChilisWife
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Re: So apparently there is a "child free" movement brewing...
Posted by thisisme
As far as I see it, I don't really care. My child does not have to go EVERYWHERE. If places want to be child-free, so be it. There's a market for that just like there's a market for child-friendly places. There are couples only resorts that are child-free, aren't there? It doesn't bother me one bit.
Totally agree. The twice per year I actually get to leave my kids with a babysitter and go out to dinner with DH, the last thing I want to hear or see are children running around and talking in my ear. Whether they are well behaved or not. Not saying places should "ban" children totally but having certain times of day when certain places are adults only actually seems like a nice idea.
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Re: So apparently there is a "child free" movement brewing...
Posted by Janice
There is only one place that I fear kids being banned from-church.
Churches down here have room after room for child care centers.
My friends think I am nutty for having josh and jessie sit next to me in the pew.
Ushers are always telling me about the cry rooms and playrooms...as I walk into church, without even having sat down yet...kids completely quiet.
If my kids were to cry in church, I would leave. They don't. I feel like that is because they were trained to sit.
But-I can totally see my church having a child free mass in the future.
My sister lives in NC and I think she probably doesn't live too far away from you. When we're down there and I go to her church, I feel like people are so much nicer about kids being in church. They're all, "Bless her heart!" and here in NY when my four and a half month old makes a peep, the crochetty old people are always giving me dirty looks! Although, honestly I have to say DD knows how to behave in church because she's been going every week since she was about three weeks old.
It would not be very Catholic of them to have child free masses!
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| Posted 7/27/11 9:39 PM |
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hazeleyes33
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Re: So apparently there is a "child free" movement brewing...
Posted by aliwnec10
Posted by memi7206
i dont understand why everyone is always under the impression that "back in day" no one misbehaved, there were no undisciplined children.
People are so used to associating their "golden age" with Leave it to Beaver, and Donna Reed....I think people see the past through rosed colored glasses and need to get over themselves. I dont think its the children - I think its a lot of the selfishness and sense of entitlement with this new generation of adults - the me me me in society - "I" want a pleasnt dinner - I dont want to be disturbed by children.
i think its BS.
Really???
I worked in a restaurant for 10 years. 10 years of seeing kids run around, lay on the floor and the parents do nothing, nor even pay attention. Yes there are kids that misbehave, but i certainly don't blame anyone who doesn't want to be in the same restaurant as that!
I see nothing wrong with people wanting to enjoy their dinner. In my town there is a restaurant that has a sign saying "if you can't control your children, you will be asked to leave." There are rarely any kids that go to this restaurant (the owner makes good on his promise to ask people to leave) and the ones that do, are well behaved because the parents know not to bring them there unless they are.
Listen i have a 3 year old and one on the way. My son (luckily) is very well behaved in restaurants, but we've also taught him what was acceptable and what wasn't. If he wasn't behaving, we leave. End of story. He loves going out so 99% of the time, he behaves. We leave because i understand what it's like before kids and to want to enjoy a dinner in peace. I would never want to ruin someone else's dinner or evening. That's not fair because my kid is misbehaving, kwim?
ITA with you. Parents today are way too lax. They don't want to sweat the small stuff and that is why kids are out of control and not disciplined like they should be. I see it all the time. The parents do absolutely nothing.
I am not saying all parents are like that because I am not but again, I have seen such a change in the discipline of kids in 5 years time.
These are adults in their 30's and 40's too who were well behaved and disciplined as kids. When we were told no, it meant no. When we were told we were leaving, we were leaving. No ifs, and or buts.
I am not sure what has happened with this generation of parents but they are only harming the next generation by letting them get out of control and ignoring them.
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| Posted 7/27/11 10:12 PM |
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hotsauce345
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Re: So apparently there is a "child free" movement brewing...
Posted by aliwnec10
Posted by memi7206
i dont understand why everyone is always under the impression that "back in day" no one misbehaved, there were no undisciplined children.
People are so used to associating their "golden age" with Leave it to Beaver, and Donna Reed....I think people see the past through rosed colored glasses and need to get over themselves. I dont think its the children - I think its a lot of the selfishness and sense of entitlement with this new generation of adults - the me me me in society - "I" want a pleasnt dinner - I dont want to be disturbed by children.
i think its BS.
Really???
I worked in a restaurant for 10 years. 10 years of seeing kids run around, lay on the floor and the parents do nothing, nor even pay attention. Yes there are kids that misbehave, but i certainly don't blame anyone who doesn't want to be in the same restaurant as that!
I see nothing wrong with people wanting to enjoy their dinner. In my town there is a restaurant that has a sign saying "if you can't control your children, you will be asked to leave." There are rarely any kids that go to this restaurant (the owner makes good on his promise to ask people to leave) and the ones that do, are well behaved because the parents know not to bring them there unless they are.
Listen i have a 3 year old and one on the way. My son (luckily) is very well behaved in restaurants, but we've also taught him what was acceptable and what wasn't. If he wasn't behaving, we leave. End of story. He loves going out so 99% of the time, he behaves. We leave because i understand what it's like before kids and to want to enjoy a dinner in peace. I would never want to ruin someone else's dinner or evening. That's not fair because my kid is misbehaving, kwim?
but what about the people with well behaved & disciplined kids? we should all suffer and not be able to go places because theres people out there who don't care enough to teach them to behave in public? all establishments have the right to refuse service to anyone...so they could easily turn away a family with a misbehaved untamed child...banning children in general just shows complete intolerance.
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| Posted 7/27/11 10:54 PM |
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lbride
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Re: So apparently there is a "child free" movement brewing...
Posted by CathyB
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Even the most well behaved kids freak out. To start banning children from Harry Potter movies is taking it a bit far IMO.
That stood out to me in the article as just silly. Was anyone really taking a 6 year old to see the latest Harry Potter movie? I thought it was too violent for my kids right now.
wouldnt put it past some people - when DH and I went to see Batman a few yrs ago there was a child there not older than 5
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| Posted 7/27/11 11:25 PM |
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Re: So apparently there is a "child free" movement brewing...
I was at Starbucks on my lunch break today, and some annoying five year old gutless jumping all over my couch and making noise and trying to get me to notice how cute she was.
She wasn't.
I'm down with this child free stuff sometimes. Kids are annoying. Even my own little bundle of whiny joy.
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| Posted 7/27/11 11:32 PM |
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Re: So apparently there is a "child free" movement brewing...
*5 year old girl.
I dontnknow if she was gutless.... 
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| Posted 7/27/11 11:32 PM |
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WhatNow
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Re: So apparently there is a "child free" movement brewing...
Posted by Tilde
I think this directly follows the "lack of discipline" movement that parents seem to be so fond of! 
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| Posted 7/28/11 12:19 AM |
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browneyedgirl
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Re: So apparently there is a "child free" movement brewing...
I think it's a little of everything.
Many parents don't watch their kids or discipline them.
Many adults don't even want to see kids, let alone hear them.
People need to be respectful of others. If your kid isn't behaving and they won't stop, leave the restaurant. If your kid is under control, they should be allowed there. Kids are people too. But everyone deserves some quiet time, especially in a fancy restaurant
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| Posted 7/28/11 7:55 AM |
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summerBaby10
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Re: So apparently there is a "child free" movement brewing...
Posted by cheryl28
Posted by Tilde
I think this directly follows the "lack of discipline" movement that parents seem to be so fond of!
Awesome! Right teach your children to behave like we were taught and there wouldn't be this many "ill-behaved" children.
ITA.
I have to say though that some people dislike babies/kids just for being babies/kids whether they behave well or not. I took DS with me to the Derm when he was 6 or 7 months old. We were in the waiting room & he was sooo good that day, didn't make a sound, not 1 sound & a child free couple looked at me like I had the plague.
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| Posted 7/28/11 7:59 AM |
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NervousNell
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Re: So apparently there is a "child free" movement brewing...
Posted by lbride
Posted by CathyB
Posted by jerseypanda
Even the most well behaved kids freak out. To start banning children from Harry Potter movies is taking it a bit far IMO.
That stood out to me in the article as just silly. Was anyone really taking a 6 year old to see the latest Harry Potter movie? I thought it was too violent for my kids right now.
wouldnt put it past some people - when DH and I went to see Batman a few yrs ago there was a child there not older than 5
When we went to see Gangs of New York years ago, there were young children there- and it was a 10 pm show.
And anyone who saw that movie knows how bloody and violent it was.
And the kicker- the kids were totally bored and running around down in front of the screen- throwing things up at the screen!
At one point someone yelled out- SIT THAT KID DOWN!
And everyone applauded.
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| Posted 7/28/11 9:07 AM |
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Alli06
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Re: So apparently there is a "child free" movement brewing...
Grocery store is taking it a bit too far. My DS is very good while we food shop. If he was to start having a temper tantrum, I would take him out right away.
Now, I do agree on adult only places like up-scale restaurants. Sorry, I would never take my kid out to a place like that. If we are paying $150-200 for dinner, I don't want to hear your child crying or whining next to me. I remember going out for the first time after DS was born. It was about 8pm and at a nice restaurant. A couple came in with infant twins and a two year old. The death stairs they got from the older adults was bad. The staff was really nice to them, but guess what the twins started crying and the two year old was acting up within the first 20 min. They wound up leaving. All I was thinking to myself was "What where they thinking"!! Get take out.
As for kids not misbehaving in the past. Of course there was misbehaved kids, but guess what, my father and mother tell me all the time they never went out to dinner. Only the adults went out. My dad said he can only recall going out very few times and he was very behaved because it was such a treat.
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| Posted 7/28/11 9:36 AM |
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Re: So apparently there is a "child free" movement brewing...
Posted by lipglossjunky73
I was at Starbucks on my lunch break today, and some annoying five year old gutless jumping all over my couch and making noise and trying to get me to notice how cute she was.
She wasn't.
I'm down with this child free stuff sometimes. Kids are annoying. Even my own little bundle of whiny joy.
I'm with you on this one! Most kids are annoying. The worst is when parents expect you to think they are the cutest things in the world when they are jumping on the couch next to you.
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| Posted 7/28/11 9:40 AM |
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headoverheels
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Re: So apparently there is a "child free" movement brewing...
I really don't care what private businesses choose to do. If they tell me I can't bring my kids, I'll pick someplace else if I need to bring the kids, though I don't see boycotting them if I have a sitter for the night. And I really feel that this movement is not about normal children making normal noises It's about insensitive and too-lenient parents not understand what their children can and cannot handle, failing to reprimand or remove their children when they act up, and THEIR sense of entitlement that they can go wherever they want with their kids no matter what the situation.
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kahlua716
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Re: So apparently there is a "child free" movement brewing...
I think it's great!
-children under 6 do not belong at a Harry Potter movie anyway
-Children do not belong in first class
-children do not belong in upscale restaurants- especially after certain hours
If there are still plenty of ways to travel, eat, and see movies WITH children- there should be plenty of ways to do these things without.
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| Posted 7/28/11 10:24 AM |
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kahlua716
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Re: So apparently there is a "child free" movement brewing...
Posted by headoverheels
I really don't care what private businesses choose to do. If they tell me I can't bring my kids, I'll pick someplace else if I need to bring the kids, though I don't see boycotting them if I have a sitter for the night. And I really feel that this movement is not about normal children making normal noises It's about insensitive and too-lenient parents not understand what their children can and cannot handle, failing to reprimand or remove their children when they act up, and THEIR sense of entitlement that they can go wherever they want with their kids no matter what the situation.
Well said.
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| Posted 7/28/11 10:28 AM |
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Re: So apparently there is a "child free" movement brewing...
Posted by headoverheels
I really don't care what private businesses choose to do. If they tell me I can't bring my kids, I'll pick someplace else if I need to bring the kids, though I don't see boycotting them if I have a sitter for the night. And I really feel that this movement is not about normal children making normal noises It's about insensitive and too-lenient parents not understand what their children can and cannot handle, failing to reprimand or remove their children when they act up, and THEIR sense of entitlement that they can go wherever they want with their kids no matter what the situation.
ITA!
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| Posted 7/28/11 12:35 PM |
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Re: So apparently there is a "child free" movement brewing...
Posted by kahlua716
I think it's great!
-children under 6 do not belong at a Harry Potter movie anyway
-Children do not belong in first class
-children do not belong in upscale restaurants- especially after certain hours
If there are still plenty of ways to travel, eat, and see movies WITH children- there should be plenty of ways to do these things without.
I flew first class to South Africa with my 3 month old, the extra space was nice because it allowed us to make him comfortable enough to sleep nearly the entire flight over.
Flight was 80% co-workers of mine so it was only them we could have annoyed and not the general public.
Agree about HP. I amazed at parents who bring kids under 3 to the midnight showing of Transformers. Why?
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| Posted 7/28/11 12:40 PM |
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Re: So apparently there is a "child free" movement brewing...
Posted by janedoe
Posted by Tilde
I think this directly follows the "lack of discipline" movement that parents seem to be so fond of!
I could not agree more!!!
Yep!
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| Posted 7/28/11 12:46 PM |
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Re: So apparently there is a "child free" movement brewing...
Posted by jacquig
Posted by janedoe
Posted by Tilde
I think this directly follows the "lack of discipline" movement that parents seem to be so fond of!
I could not agree more!!!
Yep!
AMEN!
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| Posted 7/28/11 1:04 PM |
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Re: So apparently there is a "child free" movement brewing...
My daughter is excellently behaved in restaurants. Like a PP said- we get compliments on her bahavior all the time.
That said, I can completely understand the 'no children' thing. If a child is not old enough to stifle the impulse to scream and throw himself on the floor, they should not be in upperscale restaurants.
I went to dinner with DH for our anniversary after a particularly harrowing week with DD, and while it wasn't a $400 a night establishment, it also wasn't a Fridays.
Within 3 minutes of being seated, I heard a toddler whining and a baby screaming.
I had to resist the urge to run out the door. I went to dinner without DD to ESCAPE these sounds. Instead I had to cringe through half of my meal.
I also think that the 'no kids' thing makes sense in first class and movie theaters. People are paying extra money for the comfort of first class and they shouldn't have to listen to crying babies. Movie theaters are just no place for kids unless it's a movie specifically made for children. But- I've been to movies where people expect their young children to behave for 2 hours during a movie they don't understand. Then they get bored and act up. It's not fair for the other paying patrons who now can't focus on the movie because they have a tantruming toddler 4 rows down.
The supermarket thing I feel is ridiculous, because some people have no choice but to bring their child.
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| Posted 7/28/11 1:28 PM |
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Re: So apparently there is a "child free" movement brewing...
Posted by kahlua716
Posted by headoverheels
I really don't care what private businesses choose to do. If they tell me I can't bring my kids, I'll pick someplace else if I need to bring the kids, though I don't see boycotting them if I have a sitter for the night. And I really feel that this movement is not about normal children making normal noises It's about insensitive and too-lenient parents not understand what their children can and cannot handle, failing to reprimand or remove their children when they act up, and THEIR sense of entitlement that they can go wherever they want with their kids no matter what the situation.
Well said.
Yes. I agree as well.
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| Posted 7/28/11 1:30 PM |
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Re: So apparently there is a "child free" movement brewing...
Posted by lipglossjunky73
*5 year old girl.
I dontnknow if she was gutless....
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