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Re: Spinoff from Pot
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There's a lot of differences.
1. no hangover from pot
2. stoners are much cooler to hang out with than alcoholics (ok that is a matter of opinion lol)
3. pot can be a philosophical/spiritual experience while i don't believe using alcohol can be
4. while still very controversial, pot can have healing benefits for people who have diseases (can help with nausea, etc. in cancer/AIDS patients) while alcohol can't
5. alcohol is addictive - pot (jmho) is not (and i mean addictive by your body going through withdrawal)
6. nobody has ever died from ingesting too much pot...MANY many people have died from ingesting too much alcohol
ITA!
me too
I completely agree.
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Re: Spinoff from Pot
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5. alcohol is addictive - pot (jmho) is not (and i mean addictive by your body going through withdrawal)
That's not exactly true. Someone close to me went through a really hard time with pot withdrawl and it almost ruined his life. It can completely be addictive!
I'll take your word for it but I've known a lot of pot heads in my life and I've never known any of them to go through withdrawal (vomiting, shaking, delusions) when they stop.
I'm not sure if the withdrawl symptoms are the same....but that doesn't mean it's not addictive to the point where it begins to take over your life and you can't stop it.
I agree it can be addictive but how would it take over your life? Everyone I have ever known does it on their spare time, not affecting their work or family life.
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Re: Spinoff from Pot
Posted by johnsae
There's a lot of differences.
1. no hangover from pot
2. stoners are much cooler to hang out with than alcoholics (ok that is a matter of opinion lol)
3. pot can be a philosophical/spiritual experience while i don't believe using alcohol can be
4. while still very controversial, pot can have healing benefits for people who have diseases (can help with nausea, etc. in cancer/AIDS patients) while alcohol can't
5. alcohol is addictive - pot (jmho) is not (and i mean addictive by your body going through withdrawal)
6. nobody has ever died from ingesting too much pot...MANY many people have died from ingesting too much alcohol
alicia you're too cute
ITA with everything on here
again, i rather hang out with a pothead than an alcoholic
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Re: Spinoff from Pot
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5. alcohol is addictive - pot (jmho) is not (and i mean addictive by your body going through withdrawal)
That's not exactly true. Someone close to me went through a really hard time with pot withdrawl and it almost ruined his life. It can completely be addictive!
I'll take your word for it but I've known a lot of pot heads in my life and I've never known any of them to go through withdrawal (vomiting, shaking, delusions) when they stop.
I'm not sure if the withdrawl symptoms are the same....but that doesn't mean it's not addictive to the point where it begins to take over your life and you can't stop it.
I agree it can be addictive but how would it take over your life? Everyone I have ever known does it on their spare time, not affecting their work or family life.
come on...haven't you seen that commercial where the pot smoker melts into his couch and doesn't want to get off it to do anything productive? 
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Re: Spinoff from Pot
There are so many things in life that are addictive. Sex, food, alcohol, cigarettes, drugs, extreme sports.....all of these things can have a negative effect on someones life if they don't control it.
What makes pot so much worse than anything else??
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Re: Spinoff from Pot
Posted by babybug631
There are so many things in life that are addictive. Sex, food, alcohol, cigarettes, drugs, extreme sports.....all of these things can have a negative effect on someones life if they don't control it.
What makes pot so much worse than anything else??
ITA. Have you ever seen the show "Intervention" on A&E? They actually had an episode where a grown man was addicted to video games....it was crazy...he played for like 48 hours straight and even did one of the dance video games (where you dance on a pad) for 24 hours...
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Re: Spinoff from Pot
Posted by hazeleyes33
I agree it can be addictive but how would it take over your life? Everyone I have ever known does it on their spare time, not affecting their work or family life.
I actually know several people who have struggled with pot addiction and had it take over their lives. One person in particular had to go to rehab to overcome the addiction.
That's what has always scared me about it - the fact that it seems so harmless....but can actually be quite dangerous - much like alcohol!
I agree that most people use it recreationally and be fine with it. But that's not always the case.
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Re: Spinoff from Pot
Posted by babybug631
There are so many things in life that are addictive. Sex, food, alcohol, cigarettes, drugs, extreme sports.....all of these things can have a negative effect on someones life if they don't control it.
What makes pot so much worse than anything else??
im addicted and im not even joking to coffee
i need it at least 3-4 times a day
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Re: Spinoff from Pot
Spinoff question from the... well, spinoff... 
For the pro-pot smokers, will you completely accept or encourage your children to smoke pot as well?
If not, why? At what age does it become acceptable, and what age did you start smoking?
I'm just curious, really. I have my opinion which will stay my opinion, but I've always wondered about this. You could say I'm naive when it comes to drug knowledge. I grew up with the worst-case-scenario addict as my role model (of what NOT to do) so that is the only experience I can really draw from.
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Re: Spinoff from Pot
I also felt I was able to gauge my "enhancement" better with alcohol. For instance, I know with 2 glasses of wine, I am fine- somewhat relaxed, NOT drunk, barely buzzed. Anything more and I know I might get into trouble. With weed, I might be zonked with one hit, depending on the strength/type of weed.
That's the main reason I never liked weed- I never knew what might totally eff me up, make me *good*, or make me puke- and the paranoia always made me believe my own mother hated me......
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Re: Spinoff from Pot
Posted by greenfreak
Spinoff question from the... well, spinoff...
For the pro-pot smokers, will you completely accept or encourage your children to smoke pot as well?
If not, why? At what age does it become acceptable, and what age did you start smoking?
I'm just curious, really. I have my opinion which will stay my opinion, but I've always wondered about this. You could say I'm naive when it comes to drug knowledge. I grew up with the worst-case-scenario addict as my role model (of what NOT to do) so that is the only experience I can really draw from.
This is a tough question. I can't say that I will encourage my children to smoke pot, but it would be really hypocritical of me to say that I think it is a terrible thing. DH (who also is pro-pot) wants to lie to them but I don't think that is the right answer either.
I'm not going to smoke pot with my kids, but I also am not going to deny that I did it and enjoyed it.....to answer your ? I am undecided with how I'm going to handle it....
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Re: Spinoff from Pot
Posted by Porrruss
I also felt I was able to gauge my "enhancement" better with alcohol. For instance, I know with 2 glasses of wine, I am fine- somewhat relaxed, NOT drunk, barely buzzed. Anything more and I know I might get into trouble. With weed, I might be zonked with one hit, depending on the strength/type of weed.
That's the main reason I never liked weed- I never knew what might totally eff me up, make me *good*, or make me puke- and the paranoia always made me believe my own mother hated me......
very true....with alcohol you do have some sort of control over how much you ingest (at least those that don't have a problem with alcohol have control), with pot you just NEVER know how you're going to react...
the first time i got high i told my friends to take me to the hospital...it was a very scary experience!
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Re: Spinoff from Pot
Posted by greenfreak
Spinoff question from the... well, spinoff...
For the pro-pot smokers, will you completely accept or encourage your children to smoke pot as well?
If not, why? At what age does it become acceptable, and what age did you start smoking?
I'm just curious, really. I have my opinion which will stay my opinion, but I've always wondered about this. You could say I'm naive when it comes to drug knowledge. I grew up with the worst-case-scenario addict as my role model (of what NOT to do) so that is the only experience I can really draw from.
im pro pot
will i accept it- yes. I rather them smoke pot than drink, be promiscuous, smoke ciggaretesetc...Anthony and i have had a long talk about this and will have a long conversation with them about being respnsible about it, etc...
will i encourage it? no. i wouldnt encourage any vice. what parent whos a wine drinker encourages their kid to beome a drinker. if it happens, it happens but i wont encourage anything
at what age will it become acceptable? i dont know, late high school
when did i start? i actualy dont smoke pot. you dont have to be doing something to be for it.
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Re: Spinoff from Pot
Posted by greenfreak
Spinoff question from the... well, spinoff...
For the pro-pot smokers, will you completely accept or encourage your children to smoke pot as well?
If not, why? At what age does it become acceptable, and what age did you start smoking?
I'm just curious, really. I have my opinion which will stay my opinion, but I've always wondered about this. You could say I'm naive when it comes to drug knowledge. I grew up with the worst-case-scenario addict as my role model (of what NOT to do) so that is the only experience I can really draw from.
I wouldn't encourage my kids to smoke weed...just like I wouldn't encourage them to drink. But, when that day comes I want them to be responsible about it. Designated drivers and such. My parents in no way promoted drinking and smoking, but I always knew that if I needed a ride or needed help they would be there. I got it out of my system young. So now I can continue on with my life.
However, DH is very anti-weed (why I haven't smoked in 7 years). So I doubt it will be acceptable in our house.
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Re: Spinoff from Pot
Personaly I think its very similar to drinking, but without the aggression. I don't drink much (except expensive champagne...) I don't smoke much either...
But I wanted to say lets not fool ourselves by ignoring the psychological effects marijuana has on people who are chronic smokers, depression, schizophrenia etc...all those mental illnesses can be brought on by excessive smoking. Pot is indeed addictive, not in the same ways. But we can not deny the correlations between pot and mental illness.
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Re: Spinoff from Pot
Posted by racheeeee
Personaly I think its very similar to drinking, but without the aggression. I don't drink much (except expensive champagne...) I don't smoke much either...
But I wanted to say lets not fool ourselves by ignoring the psychological effects marijuana has on people who are chronic smokers, depression, schizophrenia etc...all those mental illnesses can be brought on by excessive smoking. Pot is indeed addictive, not in the same ways. But we can not deny the correlations between pot and mental illness.
Just playing devil's advocate here...what correlations between pot and mental illness are there?????? Just wondering who/what your source is?
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Re: Spinoff from Pot
Posted by greenfreak
Spinoff question from the... well, spinoff...
For the pro-pot smokers, will you completely accept or encourage your children to smoke pot as well?
If not, why? At what age does it become acceptable, and what age did you start smoking?
I'm just curious, really. I have my opinion which will stay my opinion, but I've always wondered about this. You could say I'm naive when it comes to drug knowledge. I grew up with the worst-case-scenario addict as my role model (of what NOT to do) so that is the only experience I can really draw from.
Wondering myself.
I smoked pot as a teenager, but would never think that its ok to do. I will defiantely be opposed to my child smoking, but I have some insight on the experience.
So smoking pot has no affect on your lungs? Yes I know of the affects of alcohol on your liver. Red wine is said to be good for the heart though.
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Re: Spinoff from Pot
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Posted by racheeeee
Personaly I think its very similar to drinking, but without the aggression. I don't drink much (except expensive champagne...) I don't smoke much either...
But I wanted to say lets not fool ourselves by ignoring the psychological effects marijuana has on people who are chronic smokers, depression, schizophrenia etc...all those mental illnesses can be brought on by excessive smoking. Pot is indeed addictive, not in the same ways. But we can not deny the correlations between pot and mental illness.
Just playing devil's advocate here...what correlations between pot and mental illness are there?????? Just wondering who/what your source is?
Well, a few things, personal experience first off (not me, but a very close friend and other friends) but if you google it you will find tons of medical research supporting the connection between the two.
Here is just one brief atricle about it
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Re: Spinoff from Pot
Posted by hazeleyes33
Even though I do not smoke (makes me very hungry-heh, I'm on ww-lol! and I don't want to with the kids always up in the middle of the night), I wanted to know what people-who never tried it think the difference is between drinking and smoking pot.
One makes listening to the Grateful Dead a lot more enjoyable!
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Re: Spinoff from Pot
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Posted by johnsae
There's a lot of differences.
1. no hangover from pot
2. stoners are much cooler to hang out with than alcoholics (ok that is a matter of opinion lol)
3. pot can be a philosophical/spiritual experience while i don't believe using alcohol can be
4. while still very controversial, pot can have healing benefits for people who have diseases (can help with nausea, etc. in cancer/AIDS patients) while alcohol can't
5. alcohol is addictive - pot (jmho) is not (and i mean addictive by your body going through withdrawal)
6. nobody has ever died from ingesting too much pot...MANY many people have died from ingesting too much alcohol
ITA!
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Re: Spinoff from Pot
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Posted by hazeleyes33
Even though I do not smoke (makes me very hungry-heh, I'm on ww-lol! and I don't want to with the kids always up in the middle of the night), I wanted to know what people-who never tried it think the difference is between drinking and smoking pot.
One makes listening to the Grateful Dead a lot more enjoyable!
lolol!!!
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Re: Spinoff from Pot
I have actually seen CAT scans of pot smokers. It is fact that brain tissue is decreased. I am sure i can be damaging to lungs as well. Im pretty sure we all know the physical ramifications of alcohol. We'd be stupid if we didnt.
However, I have never seen anyone get violent from smoking weed. I have never heard of a domestic violence dispute when a person was high on pot as opposed to drunk from alcohol. Perhaps it has happened, but it seems pretty uncommon. I could be wrong.
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Re: Spinoff from Pot
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Posted by racheeeee
Personaly I think its very similar to drinking, but without the aggression. I don't drink much (except expensive champagne...) I don't smoke much either...
But I wanted to say lets not fool ourselves by ignoring the psychological effects marijuana has on people who are chronic smokers, depression, schizophrenia etc...all those mental illnesses can be brought on by excessive smoking. Pot is indeed addictive, not in the same ways. But we can not deny the correlations between pot and mental illness.
Just playing devil's advocate here...what correlations between pot and mental illness are there?????? Just wondering who/what your source is?
alicia - like I said - you know where i stand, but I will tell you this - my best friend has mental illness. She has been medicated for YEARS and was doing wonderfully. About 6-7 years ago, she began smoking pot again - something she didnt do since college, and she completely went down the drain and had to be institutionalized. She obviously was already ill - the pot didnt do it to her, but I believe it was a huge mistake for her to smoke, and it really messed her up... 
According to drug rehab counselors, pot is emotionally addictive - but anything that ges you high will do that - if it dulls your pain and lifts you out of a funk, who wouldnt want to run to it when they are feeling emotional pain or sadness?
That being said - I will say that I never do it when I am upset, depressed, or anything else... only for a good time!
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Re: Spinoff from Pot
1) I have never smoked pot in my life
2) I am in favor of legalizing pot.
3) I would never encourage or allow my children to smoke ANYTHING, EVER, or drink underage.
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Re: Spinoff from Pot
I would do what the dad in the movie "Knocked Up" did...the kid turned out just fine!!
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