Re: Spinoff- who will watch Jon & Kate's Special tonight?

Re: Spinoff- who will watch Jon & Kate's Special tonight?

Re: Spinoff- who will watch Jon & Kate's Special tonight?

Posted by avamamma

Posted by missingbunn

Jon just baffles me... it's obvious he's having a crisis, but I really feel like he missed the boat. It would be nearly impossible to live with a person like Kate, but he just fueled her behavior by passively living his life for years, hiding behind her, and acting out privately with other women. He abandoned her years ago when he let her just take over everything. Not to say that Kate is the epitome of kindness... she is just as much to blame and he is. But, I see why she had to control so much; when your husband is absent of opinion and strength (and you have 8 young kids), you have to grab the world with your own two hands.

And now for Jon to say that he's finally standing up for himself?? No he's not. He's running away. He needs to stay there, work on his marriage, and STEP UP as a husband. There is no doubt in my mind that he loves his children... but leaving because he can't stand up to Kate is no way to help his family. It might bring peace for a few moments but it will be so much destruction.

I wish he loved Kate enough to help her stay in control. I think Kate knows that she is out of control and what she needs is a man to stand beside her- not cower behind her.

Very well said. I agree 100000%!

Re: Spinoff- who will watch Jon & Kate's Special tonight?

It was a very sad episoded especially b/c I watched the show from the beginning and they have changed so much.

I think Jon is completely checked out. I dont think he wants to work on his relationship with Kate. Whether it's her controlling personality or the show I think he is just done with it all.

Kate I think is heartbroken over the situation but I also think she is playing the victim role to change how people view her since the media makes her out to be a ******.

Re: Spinoff- who will watch Jon & Kate's Special tonight?

I watched the show pretty often prior to all this and they seemed like any normal family with a chaotic home and its gets stressful running after kids, as so many at that. But they have changed so much I dont even identify with them anymore. Kate carries herself like a Victoria Beckham wannabe and Jon just seems like a single guy who is really detached from his wife, would rather be a bachelor and hang out, and just tolerates his wife for the kids sake. Its just sad because the whole show was about them raising their kids together and now its just about the two of them, the kids are not even the story anymore. Jon just seems like he is suddenly a teenager. I actually do feel bad for Kate..

Re: Spinoff- who will watch Jon & Kate's Special tonight?

Re: Spinoff- who will watch Jon & Kate's Special tonight?

While I don't think a marriage breaks down because of one person, I am so angry at Jon in this whole thing.

It seems Kate wants to work on things, and Jon has decided he doesn't want any part of it. The way he said he was excited and only 32 just made me sick! When he said he was passive and let Kate make all the decisions, I don't think he was just talking about the show. While I don't doubt he loves his kids, I do think he wants to live the single, non-dad life. He didn't seem all that upset that he wouldn't be part of their everyday lives. I think he likes the idea of being a part time dad- seeing the kids every other weekend, or whatever it will be, and living life as a bachelor the rest of the time. Kate seemed devastated that there would be times she would be able to be with the kids (when Jon would be having his visits).

Kate may be controlling and take charge, but I am sure she was always like that. It was probably brought out more by being a mother to 8, but I am sure Jon knew the type of person she was when he asked her to marry him - when he was 21 - or is he insinuating she forced him to do that too?

I feel so bad for all of them - this is a hard enough thing to have to go through, let alone on TV. The kids especially - that all of this will be documented to for them to watch when they get older.

Re: Spinoff- who will watch Jon & Kate's Special tonight?

I also was very sad watching the episode last night. As much as editing has a play in exactly what we see and how a person is portrayed, there is no mistaking the fact that Jon has completely checked out of that family. He can blame whatever external forces he wants but he was the one who wanted to do the show in the first place. There is also a way of getting help and fixing things that do not include going through a mid-life crisis at 32 years old! Please, the earrings? Come on, maybe the new girlfriend likes them?
I do not think Kate is completely innocent here but she truly seemed broken up by the decision while all Jon could focus on was that he was only 32 years old and he is too young for this! I almost lost it when Kate was saying that there isn't a holiday that she will not spend with the kids...

Re: Spinoff- who will watch Jon & Kate's Special tonight?

Posted by Michi

Posted by itsbabytime


I don't think so at all. I think she is reacting the way any mother would in the face of her entire world falling apart.

I didn't watch this show much but, I never really liked the whole idea of it. Do I think kate was whiny and bossy and condescending - absolutely - but, I think this is on Jon - he is obviously the one that checked out b/c as his words and actions have made clear at 32 he doesn't not seem to be ready to just be the family man father of 8 - a little too late for that I think. So sad.

ITA on all accounts. It is just heartbreaking. I dont think Kate is playing the martyr at all, she is doing now what needs to be done for her family. I think Jon checked out a long time ago and wants to be 18 instead of 32, to describe his emotion as excited kinda made me naseous. my heart breaks for them all and i love that family so much ud think it was my own family! heartbreaking.