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Study: Want a smart baby? TV's not going to help

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Posted 3/4/09 2:00 PM
 
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Re: Study: Want a smart baby? TV's not going to help

I read this on CNN earlier. I agree with it. We don't let DD watch any tv. Sometimes we have the news on in the morning, but at night we play music and play with her and watch tv after she goes to bed.

Posted 3/4/09 2:44 PM
 

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Re: Study: Want a smart baby? TV's not going to help

In the Harvard study, two I.Q.-related tests were administered to the children: the Peabody Picture Vocabulary Test III, which indicates how many words the child understands and uses, and the Wide-Range Assessment of Visual Motor Ability test, which presents puzzles and peg boards to test cognitive abilities.

Babies who spent more time watching TV had lower language and visual motor skills at age 3. But when results were adjusted for household income and education levels, the association did not appear.


I'm a little confused on the last sentence though. Chat Icon

Posted 3/4/09 2:47 PM
 

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Re: Study: Want a smart baby? TV's not going to help

I think the main thing to come out of the study is that while it may not be harmful to watch tv, it is not going to be helpful in anyway.

"Contrary to parents' perceptions that TV viewing is beneficial to their children's brain development, we found no evidence of cognitive benefit from watching TV during the first two years of life," the authors wrote.

Although this quote says it can be harmful:

Based on the existing body of research, Schmidt, a developmental psychologist instructor at Harvard Medical School, said, "there's still more evidence of harm than benefit as far as TV viewing in infancy is concerned."

Posted 3/4/09 2:52 PM
 

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Re: Study: Want a smart baby? TV's not going to help

It's all a matter of balance and involvement.

We watch several TV shows with DS and talk about them together.

It definitely helps him learn things.

He sings songs after Sesame Street that help him count.

We learned sign language through Signing Time.

We talk about the silly things Curious George does.

Using TV as the sole educational tool for your child won't work, but it can be helpful.

Posted 3/4/09 3:27 PM
 

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Re: Study: Want a smart baby? TV's not going to help

I agree leighla. When the child is old enough to count and discuss the shows with you thats different. The article focuses mostly on babies 3 months - 2 years that wouldn't be able to discuss the shows though. My DD is only 9 months old.

Posted 3/4/09 3:29 PM
 

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Re: Study: Want a smart baby? TV's not going to help

Posted by leighla

It's all a matter of balance and involvement.

We watch several TV shows with DS and talk about them together.

It definitely helps him learn things.

He sings songs after Sesame Street that help him count.

We learned sign language through Signing Time.

We talk about the silly things Curious George does.

Using TV as the sole educational tool for your child won't work, but it can be helpful.



ITA!!!

Although I wish my DH would turn the TV off sometimes. He needs background noise and he refuses to try the radio instead Chat Icon

Posted 3/4/09 3:30 PM
 

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Re: Study: Want a smart baby? TV's not going to help

I believe that there is some truth to the study. However, DS has learned so much from the educational shows we let him watch at home. He knows many many words and is now starting to put sentences together. he can also recognize the names of pictures when asked as well as count to 10. I think some of the shows he watches has definitely taught him certain things. He also can sing the songs and knows the names of all the characters. So i am a bit confused about the study and DS is 19 months old. Chat Icon

Posted 3/4/09 3:32 PM
 

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Re: Study: Want a smart baby? TV's not going to help

Well, all I can say is that DD has watched TV since 3 months and watches it a lot and she has an extremely extensive vocabulary and has since an early age.

Where I think it *can* do harm in some ways, in DD's case I'm not finding it to have harmed her, but instead I find she's actually learned a lot from the programs she has watched.

Posted 3/4/09 3:33 PM
 

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Posted by vegalady

I believe that there is some truth to the study. However, DS has learned so much from the educational shows we let him watch at home. He knows many many words and is now starting to put sentences together. he can also recognize the names of pictures when asked as well as count to 10. I think some of the shows he watches has definitely taught him certain things. He also can sing the songs and knows the names of all the characters. So i am a bit confused about the study and DS is 19 months old. Chat Icon



You said it better than I did! Chat Icon But I totally agree with you.

Posted 3/4/09 3:34 PM
 

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Re: Study: Want a smart baby? TV's not going to help

I think this is baloney...

My child was shouting "ayudame, ayudame" from the other room at 18 months when she got stuck in the stroller...and when I looked puzzled she said help. Dora...she could also count to ten in English AND Spanish through no coaxing from myself.

I am fortunate to have a smart one on my hands that would blow this theory to bits.

I think it's all about moderation. If TV replaces interaction or physical activity, it's definitely not good, but in some cases I enjoy the skills I don't expect her to even have coming through...

And, I hate to even admit this because I hate the show and she doesn't really watch it, BUT Yo Gabba Gabba has helped us try new foods (The "Try It You Might Like It" mantra) AND patience for figuring something out (The "Keep Trying, Keep Trying...Never Give Up" sing-song)

I don't mind certain shows because it actually enforces what she is learning at school...I actually worry about that grey age when the shows are no longer teaching them anything and are pure mind-numbing entertainment...

Posted 3/4/09 3:36 PM
 

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Re: Study: Want a smart baby? TV's not going to help

Posted by mommy2bella



And, I hate to even admit this because I hate the show and she doesn't really watch it, BUT Yo Gabba Gabba has helped us try new foods (The "Try It You Might Like It" mantra) AND patience for figuring something out (The "Keep Trying, Keep Trying...Never Give Up" sing-song)

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same here, that show taught her ALOT

Posted 3/4/09 3:38 PM
 

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Posted by mommy2bella

I don't mind certain shows because it actually enforces what she is learning at school...I actually worry about that grey age when the shows are no longer teaching them anything and are pure mind-numbing entertainment...



This is actually my concern. I think Noggin is great and I do think kids learn a lot from it. Same with Sesame St - I was reading at 4 and my mom was convinced that I learned from watching SS. I know the studies say that they don't think that young children benefit from it, but I have seen several kids who I think have learned a lot from TV.

However, I do worry about starting the TV habit and it continuing into the age group where DS outgrows Noggin. The Noggin shows are pretty warm and fuzzy and don't use bad words or name calling. There aren't really commercials either, so they aren't being bombarded by ads for every toy and junk food item out there. I don't love some of the "older" shows like the ones on Nickelodean or the cartoon network and I am not sure I want DS watching many of them. So for now, we watch some, but try to control and monitor both what is on the TV (I watch very few of my shows when he is up) and how long it's on.

Posted 3/4/09 3:47 PM
 

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Re: Study: Want a smart baby? TV's not going to help

Posted by leighla

It's all a matter of balance and involvement.

We watch several TV shows with DS and talk about them together.

It definitely helps him learn things.

He sings songs after Sesame Street that help him count.

We learned sign language through Signing Time.

We talk about the silly things Curious George does.

Using TV as the sole educational tool for your child won't work, but it can be helpful.



I agree. If anything I think it expanded my son's vocabulary. You can't imagine the phrases that he came up with - and the only place he could have gotten them back then is TV.

Posted 3/4/09 4:03 PM
 

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Re: Study: Want a smart baby? TV's not going to help

disclaimer: this is a TV addicts response Chat Icon

I dunno... my gut instinct is that you can't paint all of tv with one brush. Yes, some tv shows are mind-numbing, yet others are rather intellectually stimulating.

As parents we're always so concerned with giving our children the absolute perfect intellectually stimulating environment... yet, how much do we intellectually stimulate ourselves?

at the tender age of 5 mo, Eryk is exposed to a ton of TV (becuase both mommy and oma are addicts Chat Icon )

However, mommy never watches shows that rot the brain.... KWIM? no dancing with the stars, no bachelor, no sports..... I watch some CNN/msnbc, a ton of PBS, euronews, history international, and some food shows (usually something with international flair like anthony bourdain on the travel channel).

The quoted studies only quantitated TV use without noting what shows were being played? sat AM cartoons (children's equivalent to adult's reality TV shows) are not the same as sesame street (aka kiddie PBS)..... sure the former might cause brain rot...but the latter likely will develop the mind and broaden a child's horizons...

I think the kids will take after the parents... if mom and dad watch mindless tv, the children will follow suit...

My main concern with too much tv is a lack of physical activity / propensity towards obesity.... very few shows encourage dancing around and physical play....

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Posted 3/4/09 4:29 PM
 

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Re: Study: Want a smart baby? TV's not going to help

Posted by mommy2bella

I think this is baloney...

My child was shouting "ayudame, ayudame" from the other room at 18 months when she got stuck in the stroller...and when I looked puzzled she said help. Dora...she could also count to ten in English AND Spanish through no coaxing from myself.

I am fortunate to have a smart one on my hands that would blow this theory to bits.

I think it's all about moderation. If TV replaces interaction or physical activity, it's definitely not good, but in some cases I enjoy the skills I don't expect her to even have coming through...

And, I hate to even admit this because I hate the show and she doesn't really watch it, BUT Yo Gabba Gabba has helped us try new foods (The "Try It You Might Like It" mantra) AND patience for figuring something out (The "Keep Trying, Keep Trying...Never Give Up" sing-song)

I don't mind certain shows because it actually enforces what she is learning at school...I actually worry about that grey age when the shows are no longer teaching them anything and are pure mind-numbing entertainment...




This is how i feel. My son will definitely blow this theory to bits. He is so smart for his age and I am not just saying that b/c i am his mommy. But if you can just hear all the words he can say and the sentences he puts together at 18 months I can only chalk it up to it being partly the TV, partly us talking to him in an adult manner and his learning experiences at daycare.

Posted 3/4/09 4:30 PM
 

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Re: Study: Want a smart baby? TV's not going to help

Ive seen too many studies done that were way too narrow to determine if it was done correclty. I mean how many people were in this study, where was this study done, dont remember if you stated the age of the children, environmental factors, genetic factors etc....
I also agree that balance is what every parent should provide for their child. I agree that Dora isnt going to make your child become a Harvard grad BUT I also think Dora can provide my dd with extra knowledge that I may not be able to provide. believe me when I tell you that I am not running around my house looking for my "zapatos" nor am I saying this to my dd. However, this may be something that she may pick up from Dora. Studies have shown that learning is highest between birth and 5 yrs. I truly believe if you provide your child with a world of knowledge that they will excel.

Posted 3/4/09 5:43 PM
 

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Re: Study: Want a smart baby? TV's not going to help

Posted by mommy2bella

I think this is baloney...

My child was shouting "ayudame, ayudame" from the other room at 18 months when she got stuck in the stroller...and when I looked puzzled she said help. Dora...she could also count to ten in English AND Spanish through no coaxing from myself.

I am fortunate to have a smart one on my hands that would blow this theory to bits.

I think it's all about moderation. If TV replaces interaction or physical activity, it's definitely not good, but in some cases I enjoy the skills I don't expect her to even have coming through...

And, I hate to even admit this because I hate the show and she doesn't really watch it, BUT Yo Gabba Gabba has helped us try new foods (The "Try It You Might Like It" mantra) AND patience for figuring something out (The "Keep Trying, Keep Trying...Never Give Up" sing-song)

I don't mind certain shows because it actually enforces what she is learning at school...I actually worry about that grey age when the shows are no longer teaching them anything and are pure mind-numbing entertainment...



ITA

And to add, one day I asked DS out of the blue where his nose was, he showed me, then his ears, eyes, mouth and guess what, we didn't teach him that--tv did. Make of that what you will, but learning from TV is possible.

Posted 3/4/09 5:52 PM
 

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Re: Study: Want a smart baby? TV's not going to help

Posted by chelle

Well, all I can say is that DD has watched TV since 3 months and watches it a lot and she has an extremely extensive vocabulary and has since an early age.

Where I think it *can* do harm in some ways, in DD's case I'm not finding it to have harmed her, but instead I find she's actually learned a lot from the programs she has watched.



ITA!!! My friend who is a speech pathologist is always amazed at my 18 month old DD's vocabulary. I guess TV can't be harming her too much.

Posted 3/4/09 6:59 PM
 

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Re: Study: Want a smart baby? TV's not going to help

Don't agree. If you want a smart child, tv in moderation is fine. But make sure to read to them daily, use good vocabulary when talking to them and expose them to all types of interesting experiences.
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Posted 3/4/09 7:04 PM
 

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I don't agree at all!!! I consider Andrew to be intelligent and he has learned so much from TV. I think it depends on what shows your child is watching.

Andrew also was extremely verbal at a very early age and was able to do things I couldn't even imagine him doing.

Posted 3/4/09 7:20 PM
 

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Re: Study: Want a smart baby? TV's not going to help

Posted by chelle

Well, all I can say is that DD has watched TV since 3 months and watches it a lot and she has an extremely extensive vocabulary and has since an early age.

Where I think it *can* do harm in some ways, in DD's case I'm not finding it to have harmed her, but instead I find she's actually learned a lot from the programs she has watched.

same here, I have been told DD is advanced and I have to say I let her watch tv and dvd's since birth and she has done everything early too at 2 she has an extensive vocabulary it will blow you away- everyone thinks she is 3. she just turned 2.

Posted 3/4/09 7:43 PM
 

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Re: Study: Want a smart baby? TV's not going to help

Posted by mommy2bella


And, I hate to even admit this because I hate the show and she doesn't really watch it, BUT Yo Gabba Gabba has helped us try new foods (The "Try It You Might Like It" mantra) AND patience for figuring something out (The "Keep Trying, Keep Trying...Never Give Up" sing-song)



Im glad to hear this because yo gabba is DD favorite show since she was 3 months old, shes 8 months now.

Posted 3/4/09 8:15 PM
 

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Re: Study: Want a smart baby? TV's not going to help

Posted by CkGm

Don't agree. If you want a smart child, tv in moderation is fine. But make sure to read to them daily, use good vocabulary when talking to them and expose them to all types of interesting experiences.
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ITA!

DD didn't watch TV until she was almost 1-- she'd catch an occasional few minutes of a kid's show here or there before that, but otherwise just before she turned 1 she started watching Sesame Street every day. Now, at 20 months she watches that and Max & Ruby every day...some days she'll see Blue's Clues, or another random show too.

Although she'd love to have the TV on all day long, we don't, and she's just as content reading books, cooking in her kitchen, coloring and talking my ear off.

We don't let her watch stuff that isn't appropriate for her age, and I'm happy with her extensive vocabulary and social skills!

Posted 3/4/09 8:19 PM
 

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Re: Study: Want a smart baby? TV's not going to help

Posted by CkGm

Don't agree. If you want a smart child, tv in moderation is fine. But make sure to read to them daily, use good vocabulary when talking to them and expose them to all types of interesting experiences.
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I agree...TV should ENHANCE the experiences that Bella is getting through school and reading her books, etc...NOT replace. I just also think that the shows she does watch teach sharing, problem solving, other languages...and amazing things I don't think my annoying mommy voice could ever put forth in a better way.

Again, moderation is the key...I think Bella is smart because she is smart...not because some TV show made her smart.

Posted 3/4/09 10:37 PM
 
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