Re: SUNY/CUNY and vaccines

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Posted by Christine2

This vax anti-vax back and forth is very much a first world problem. There is a clear disparity between the availability of the vaccine in "rich" countries (such as the US) and poorer ones (like India, African contries, etc). I'd bet there are many people living there who'd be rolling their eyes at this.

They are perfect candidates for the vaccine too. Their hospitals are not equipped to treat Covid patients. They have a higher chance of dying from Covid. I don’t understand why we’re not shipping vaccines there.

We are so focused on getting every single person vaccinated in the US and it just makes no sense.

Did anyone see the Yankees coach who tested positive despite getting the vaccine? And now they have to work on finding out all his close contacts? You can still get Covid with the vaccine you just won’t be hospitalized. The poorer countries who don’t have the medical facilities like us NEED the vaccine.

ETA, these ridiculous rules for vaccinated vs not vaccinated need to stop. Either go back to negative tests to enter places or just open up normally. The vaccinated have such a false sense of security. I wonder if the Yankees coach was vaccinated a while ago and it’s just not effective anymore and he was probably maskless around all his vaccinated friends. Notice how all these places requiring fully vaccinated do not care WHEN you were vaccinated.

95% efficacy in preventing severe COVID symptoms, hospitalization and death is NOT a false sense of security.

Getting as many people vaccinated in this country makes ALL the sense in the world. It's absolutely mind boggling that you cannot see the value in a vaccinated population. I for one enjoy not having to worry about measles, small pox, polio and more. I also look forward to not having to worry about having a severe case of COVID that can potentially kill me or leave me with long term health issues. I have friends who have had COVID, recovered and now continue to suffer with breathing issues, hearing loss, debilitating fatigue, loss of taste and smell, severe headaches and more. Stop underestimating just how problematic COVID can be even if you don't land in the hospital. The more severe symptoms of COVID and the subsequent long term health effects can be avoided by being vaccinated.

Vaccines are 100% the answer to this public health crisis both here and abroad. If you don't want to be vaccinated, that's fine, but it's ridiculous to constantly minimize the importance and effectivness of the COVID vaccine. And yes, every country should have access to the vaccine. The more people globally that are vaccinated, the better off we'll all be as a society.

Serious question, if you can still get
Covid even after vaccinated, how do we really know if a person won’t suffer any long term side effects being that the virus was in their system? Are we just assuming there won’t be any because the symptoms are less severe?

If the vaccine is 95% effective at minimizing the effects of COVID and preventing severe reactions and hospitalizations it would be safe to assume that very minor symptoms wouldn't cause long term issues. If most every COVID case is reduced to a very mild case with little to no symptoms than the impact of the virus on your health will most certainly be less. The more severe case of COVID, the more taxing on your immune system and body.

It's a personal choice and to each his own on whether or not they choose to get vaccinated but after having had a moderate case of COVID myself and seeing how that impacted me, I will take the 95% protection over zero.

Safe to assume, It’s an assumption, that’s all I needed to know. We are assuming.

Re your last paragraph:
Everyone keeps saying its everyones personal choice while at the same time belittling, criticizing and judging people for not rushing to get it and shoving it down everyone’s throat.

I truly don’t care what people decide and actually do support anyone who decides to get it the same way I support people who choose not too at this time.

I also had Covid and so far the vaccine symptoms and side effects sound 1000x worse than what I experienced. I probably won’t get it this year and just stick with my antibodies for now.

If being vaccinated means the symptoms of COVID are minimized then your body doesn't need to mount such an intense immune response to the virus in order for you to heal. Right now COVID symptoms run the gammit from mild to severe to death. If the vaccine can reduce COVID down to it being no worse then a common cold or virus then the threat of COVID goes away. How many people do you know that suffer long term from a cold, virus or even the flu? Most of us recover from those illnesses with no problem. If we can get to that point with COVID through the use of vaccines then the less we need to worry about long term health issues from having had it.

I'm sorry you had a terrible response to the vaccine, that sucks, but the good news for others is that intense reaction isn't common. So far the data shows most people have a mild, fleeting response in particular to the second shot. Unfortunately, there will always be some that respond worse to any given medication or vaccine, that's par for the course.

Lastly, I don't think most people are belittling or criticizing anyone and to be perfectly honest, those that don't want to be vaccinated are ramming their POV's down everyone's throat on these threads just as much, if not more, as those who believe in the vaccine. It goes both ways. I too don't particularly care what anyone else chooses to do, I'll make the decision that's best for me. I do of course think that we ALL benefit from a vaccinated population but I certainly am not going to spend my time stressing over what each individual decides to do with regards to this vaccine or any other for that matter.

Go online and tell people you don’t want to be vaccinated and see how they treat you. You are belittled, criticized, told you are selfish. Just because you haven’t encountered it, doesn’t mean it is not happening.

If that is happening to you and it is bothersome then maybe you should keep your choice and opinions on vaccination to yourself. Easy solution to the problem. If you keep putting those things out there and you keep getting a negative reaction from others than that is on you, not them at that point.

Or maybe the people who are doing that are the problem and @ssholes. This response is exactly what I am referring too. You basically just backed up my point.

Actually, no I didn't.

Many people are a$$holes but if you keep putting yourself into conversations or situations that aggravate you, that's on you. Walk away. I've walked away from many conversations, forums, people, situations, etc. in my life because it wasn't serving me in any positive way. This is the same thing. If you want to keep going at it with "a$$holes" online who frustrate and upset you than that's on you. They aren't going anywhere and certainly don't care about how you feel but you have the ability to remove yourself from the nonsense. Give yourself peace of mind, don't expect others to do that for you.

1. That is hilarious what you just said that YOU walk away. But I will move on....
2. It’s not just walking away as many places now you have to go sit elsewhere because you are not vaccinated. If you don’t think people will say things out and about then I have a bridge to sell you. This is becoming just like a left and right issue and I don’t think it will stop just online behind a computer screen.

I am out ALL the time. I've yet to be asked my vaccination status or be told I need to sit in a designated area. As usual, you like to create these falsehoods to support whatever point you're trying to make in the moment.

Secondly, I walk away all the time IF I feel like it. Some days I do, some days on LIF I really enjoy going back at you.

That aside, I stand by what I said. If you're tired of people not agreeing with you and giving you $hit over your vaccination status then walk away from those people.

You haven’t been to places obviously that are separating the vaccinated with the unvaccinated. Which you will be in the un so you will know then I guess :)

Message edited 5/11/2021 2:55:22 PM.

Re: SUNY/CUNY and vaccines

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Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by LittleDiva

Posted by Christine2

This vax anti-vax back and forth is very much a first world problem. There is a clear disparity between the availability of the vaccine in "rich" countries (such as the US) and poorer ones (like India, African contries, etc). I'd bet there are many people living there who'd be rolling their eyes at this.

They are perfect candidates for the vaccine too. Their hospitals are not equipped to treat Covid patients. They have a higher chance of dying from Covid. I don’t understand why we’re not shipping vaccines there.

We are so focused on getting every single person vaccinated in the US and it just makes no sense.

Did anyone see the Yankees coach who tested positive despite getting the vaccine? And now they have to work on finding out all his close contacts? You can still get Covid with the vaccine you just won’t be hospitalized. The poorer countries who don’t have the medical facilities like us NEED the vaccine.

ETA, these ridiculous rules for vaccinated vs not vaccinated need to stop. Either go back to negative tests to enter places or just open up normally. The vaccinated have such a false sense of security. I wonder if the Yankees coach was vaccinated a while ago and it’s just not effective anymore and he was probably maskless around all his vaccinated friends. Notice how all these places requiring fully vaccinated do not care WHEN you were vaccinated.

95% efficacy in preventing severe COVID symptoms, hospitalization and death is NOT a false sense of security.

Getting as many people vaccinated in this country makes ALL the sense in the world. It's absolutely mind boggling that you cannot see the value in a vaccinated population. I for one enjoy not having to worry about measles, small pox, polio and more. I also look forward to not having to worry about having a severe case of COVID that can potentially kill me or leave me with long term health issues. I have friends who have had COVID, recovered and now continue to suffer with breathing issues, hearing loss, debilitating fatigue, loss of taste and smell, severe headaches and more. Stop underestimating just how problematic COVID can be even if you don't land in the hospital. The more severe symptoms of COVID and the subsequent long term health effects can be avoided by being vaccinated.

Vaccines are 100% the answer to this public health crisis both here and abroad. If you don't want to be vaccinated, that's fine, but it's ridiculous to constantly minimize the importance and effectivness of the COVID vaccine. And yes, every country should have access to the vaccine. The more people globally that are vaccinated, the better off we'll all be as a society.

Serious question, if you can still get
Covid even after vaccinated, how do we really know if a person won’t suffer any long term side effects being that the virus was in their system? Are we just assuming there won’t be any because the symptoms are less severe?

If the vaccine is 95% effective at minimizing the effects of COVID and preventing severe reactions and hospitalizations it would be safe to assume that very minor symptoms wouldn't cause long term issues. If most every COVID case is reduced to a very mild case with little to no symptoms than the impact of the virus on your health will most certainly be less. The more severe case of COVID, the more taxing on your immune system and body.

It's a personal choice and to each his own on whether or not they choose to get vaccinated but after having had a moderate case of COVID myself and seeing how that impacted me, I will take the 95% protection over zero.

Safe to assume, It’s an assumption, that’s all I needed to know. We are assuming.

Re your last paragraph:
Everyone keeps saying its everyones personal choice while at the same time belittling, criticizing and judging people for not rushing to get it and shoving it down everyone’s throat.

I truly don’t care what people decide and actually do support anyone who decides to get it the same way I support people who choose not too at this time.

I also had Covid and so far the vaccine symptoms and side effects sound 1000x worse than what I experienced. I probably won’t get it this year and just stick with my antibodies for now.

If being vaccinated means the symptoms of COVID are minimized then your body doesn't need to mount such an intense immune response to the virus in order for you to heal. Right now COVID symptoms run the gammit from mild to severe to death. If the vaccine can reduce COVID down to it being no worse then a common cold or virus then the threat of COVID goes away. How many people do you know that suffer long term from a cold, virus or even the flu? Most of us recover from those illnesses with no problem. If we can get to that point with COVID through the use of vaccines then the less we need to worry about long term health issues from having had it.

I'm sorry you had a terrible response to the vaccine, that sucks, but the good news for others is that intense reaction isn't common. So far the data shows most people have a mild, fleeting response in particular to the second shot. Unfortunately, there will always be some that respond worse to any given medication or vaccine, that's par for the course.

Lastly, I don't think most people are belittling or criticizing anyone and to be perfectly honest, those that don't want to be vaccinated are ramming their POV's down everyone's throat on these threads just as much, if not more, as those who believe in the vaccine. It goes both ways. I too don't particularly care what anyone else chooses to do, I'll make the decision that's best for me. I do of course think that we ALL benefit from a vaccinated population but I certainly am not going to spend my time stressing over what each individual decides to do with regards to this vaccine or any other for that matter.

Go online and tell people you don’t want to be vaccinated and see how they treat you. You are belittled, criticized, told you are selfish. Just because you haven’t encountered it, doesn’t mean it is not happening.

If that is happening to you and it is bothersome then maybe you should keep your choice and opinions on vaccination to yourself. Easy solution to the problem. If you keep putting those things out there and you keep getting a negative reaction from others than that is on you, not them at that point.

Or maybe the people who are doing that are the problem and @ssholes. This response is exactly what I am referring too. You basically just backed up my point.

Actually, no I didn't.

Many people are a$$holes but if you keep putting yourself into conversations or situations that aggravate you, that's on you. Walk away. I've walked away from many conversations, forums, people, situations, etc. in my life because it wasn't serving me in any positive way. This is the same thing. If you want to keep going at it with "a$$holes" online who frustrate and upset you than that's on you. They aren't going anywhere and certainly don't care about how you feel but you have the ability to remove yourself from the nonsense. Give yourself peace of mind, don't expect others to do that for you.

1. That is hilarious what you just said that YOU walk away. But I will move on....
2. It’s not just walking away as many places now you have to go sit elsewhere because you are not vaccinated. If you don’t think people will say things out and about then I have a bridge to sell you. This is becoming just like a left and right issue and I don’t think it will stop just online behind a computer screen.

I am out ALL the time. I've yet to be asked my vaccination status or be told I need to sit in a designated area. As usual, you like to create these falsehoods to support whatever point you're trying to make in the moment.

Secondly, I walk away all the time IF I feel like it. Some days I do, some days on LIF I really enjoy going back at you.

That aside, I stand by what I said. If you're tired of people not agreeing with you and giving you $hit over your vaccination status then walk away from those people.

You haven’t been to places obviously that are separating the vaccinated with the unvaccinated. Which you will be in the un so you will know then I guess :)

Please do tell EXACTLY where all of these places are that are separating people based on their vaccine status. Which stores? Which restaurants? I would love to know as I have yet to see a single store, restaurant, or other public venue separate anyone or ask for proof of vaccination. I'll wait....................

ETA - No "un" status for me. I get my first dose of Pfizer tomorrow morning.

Message edited 5/11/2021 2:57:33 PM.

Re: SUNY/CUNY and vaccines

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Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Hofstra26

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Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by Sash

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by Sash

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by Sash

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by LittleDiva

Posted by Christine2

This vax anti-vax back and forth is very much a first world problem. There is a clear disparity between the availability of the vaccine in "rich" countries (such as the US) and poorer ones (like India, African contries, etc). I'd bet there are many people living there who'd be rolling their eyes at this.

They are perfect candidates for the vaccine too. Their hospitals are not equipped to treat Covid patients. They have a higher chance of dying from Covid. I don’t understand why we’re not shipping vaccines there.

We are so focused on getting every single person vaccinated in the US and it just makes no sense.

Did anyone see the Yankees coach who tested positive despite getting the vaccine? And now they have to work on finding out all his close contacts? You can still get Covid with the vaccine you just won’t be hospitalized. The poorer countries who don’t have the medical facilities like us NEED the vaccine.

ETA, these ridiculous rules for vaccinated vs not vaccinated need to stop. Either go back to negative tests to enter places or just open up normally. The vaccinated have such a false sense of security. I wonder if the Yankees coach was vaccinated a while ago and it’s just not effective anymore and he was probably maskless around all his vaccinated friends. Notice how all these places requiring fully vaccinated do not care WHEN you were vaccinated.

95% efficacy in preventing severe COVID symptoms, hospitalization and death is NOT a false sense of security.

Getting as many people vaccinated in this country makes ALL the sense in the world. It's absolutely mind boggling that you cannot see the value in a vaccinated population. I for one enjoy not having to worry about measles, small pox, polio and more. I also look forward to not having to worry about having a severe case of COVID that can potentially kill me or leave me with long term health issues. I have friends who have had COVID, recovered and now continue to suffer with breathing issues, hearing loss, debilitating fatigue, loss of taste and smell, severe headaches and more. Stop underestimating just how problematic COVID can be even if you don't land in the hospital. The more severe symptoms of COVID and the subsequent long term health effects can be avoided by being vaccinated.

Vaccines are 100% the answer to this public health crisis both here and abroad. If you don't want to be vaccinated, that's fine, but it's ridiculous to constantly minimize the importance and effectivness of the COVID vaccine. And yes, every country should have access to the vaccine. The more people globally that are vaccinated, the better off we'll all be as a society.

Serious question, if you can still get
Covid even after vaccinated, how do we really know if a person won’t suffer any long term side effects being that the virus was in their system? Are we just assuming there won’t be any because the symptoms are less severe?

If the vaccine is 95% effective at minimizing the effects of COVID and preventing severe reactions and hospitalizations it would be safe to assume that very minor symptoms wouldn't cause long term issues. If most every COVID case is reduced to a very mild case with little to no symptoms than the impact of the virus on your health will most certainly be less. The more severe case of COVID, the more taxing on your immune system and body.

It's a personal choice and to each his own on whether or not they choose to get vaccinated but after having had a moderate case of COVID myself and seeing how that impacted me, I will take the 95% protection over zero.

Safe to assume, It’s an assumption, that’s all I needed to know. We are assuming.

Re your last paragraph:
Everyone keeps saying its everyones personal choice while at the same time belittling, criticizing and judging people for not rushing to get it and shoving it down everyone’s throat.

I truly don’t care what people decide and actually do support anyone who decides to get it the same way I support people who choose not too at this time.

I also had Covid and so far the vaccine symptoms and side effects sound 1000x worse than what I experienced. I probably won’t get it this year and just stick with my antibodies for now.

If being vaccinated means the symptoms of COVID are minimized then your body doesn't need to mount such an intense immune response to the virus in order for you to heal. Right now COVID symptoms run the gammit from mild to severe to death. If the vaccine can reduce COVID down to it being no worse then a common cold or virus then the threat of COVID goes away. How many people do you know that suffer long term from a cold, virus or even the flu? Most of us recover from those illnesses with no problem. If we can get to that point with COVID through the use of vaccines then the less we need to worry about long term health issues from having had it.

I'm sorry you had a terrible response to the vaccine, that sucks, but the good news for others is that intense reaction isn't common. So far the data shows most people have a mild, fleeting response in particular to the second shot. Unfortunately, there will always be some that respond worse to any given medication or vaccine, that's par for the course.

Lastly, I don't think most people are belittling or criticizing anyone and to be perfectly honest, those that don't want to be vaccinated are ramming their POV's down everyone's throat on these threads just as much, if not more, as those who believe in the vaccine. It goes both ways. I too don't particularly care what anyone else chooses to do, I'll make the decision that's best for me. I do of course think that we ALL benefit from a vaccinated population but I certainly am not going to spend my time stressing over what each individual decides to do with regards to this vaccine or any other for that matter.

Go online and tell people you don’t want to be vaccinated and see how they treat you. You are belittled, criticized, told you are selfish. Just because you haven’t encountered it, doesn’t mean it is not happening.

If that is happening to you and it is bothersome then maybe you should keep your choice and opinions on vaccination to yourself. Easy solution to the problem. If you keep putting those things out there and you keep getting a negative reaction from others than that is on you, not them at that point.

Or maybe the people who are doing that are the problem and @ssholes. This response is exactly what I am referring too. You basically just backed up my point.

Actually, no I didn't.

Many people are a$$holes but if you keep putting yourself into conversations or situations that aggravate you, that's on you. Walk away. I've walked away from many conversations, forums, people, situations, etc. in my life because it wasn't serving me in any positive way. This is the same thing. If you want to keep going at it with "a$$holes" online who frustrate and upset you than that's on you. They aren't going anywhere and certainly don't care about how you feel but you have the ability to remove yourself from the nonsense. Give yourself peace of mind, don't expect others to do that for you.

1. That is hilarious what you just said that YOU walk away. But I will move on....
2. It’s not just walking away as many places now you have to go sit elsewhere because you are not vaccinated. If you don’t think people will say things out and about then I have a bridge to sell you. This is becoming just like a left and right issue and I don’t think it will stop just online behind a computer screen.

I am out ALL the time. I've yet to be asked my vaccination status or be told I need to sit in a designated area. As usual, you like to create these falsehoods to support whatever point you're trying to make in the moment.

Secondly, I walk away all the time IF I feel like it. Some days I do, some days on LIF I really enjoy going back at you.

That aside, I stand by what I said. If you're tired of people not agreeing with you and giving you $hit over your vaccination status then walk away from those people.

You haven’t been to places obviously that are separating the vaccinated with the unvaccinated. Which you will be in the un so you will know then I guess :)

Please do tell EXACTLY where all of these places are that are separating people based on their vaccine status. Which stores? Which restaurants? I would love to know as I have yet to see a single store, restaurant, or other public venue separate anyone or ask for proof of vaccination. I'll wait....................

ETA - No "un" status for me. I get my first dose of Pfizer tomorrow morning.

As of right now, sporting events. If you don’t plan to go to them soon then you won’t have an issue.

Message edited 5/11/2021 3:02:59 PM.

Re: SUNY/CUNY and vaccines

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by Sash

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by Sash

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by Sash

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by LittleDiva

Posted by Christine2

This vax anti-vax back and forth is very much a first world problem. There is a clear disparity between the availability of the vaccine in "rich" countries (such as the US) and poorer ones (like India, African contries, etc). I'd bet there are many people living there who'd be rolling their eyes at this.

They are perfect candidates for the vaccine too. Their hospitals are not equipped to treat Covid patients. They have a higher chance of dying from Covid. I don’t understand why we’re not shipping vaccines there.

We are so focused on getting every single person vaccinated in the US and it just makes no sense.

Did anyone see the Yankees coach who tested positive despite getting the vaccine? And now they have to work on finding out all his close contacts? You can still get Covid with the vaccine you just won’t be hospitalized. The poorer countries who don’t have the medical facilities like us NEED the vaccine.

ETA, these ridiculous rules for vaccinated vs not vaccinated need to stop. Either go back to negative tests to enter places or just open up normally. The vaccinated have such a false sense of security. I wonder if the Yankees coach was vaccinated a while ago and it’s just not effective anymore and he was probably maskless around all his vaccinated friends. Notice how all these places requiring fully vaccinated do not care WHEN you were vaccinated.

95% efficacy in preventing severe COVID symptoms, hospitalization and death is NOT a false sense of security.

Getting as many people vaccinated in this country makes ALL the sense in the world. It's absolutely mind boggling that you cannot see the value in a vaccinated population. I for one enjoy not having to worry about measles, small pox, polio and more. I also look forward to not having to worry about having a severe case of COVID that can potentially kill me or leave me with long term health issues. I have friends who have had COVID, recovered and now continue to suffer with breathing issues, hearing loss, debilitating fatigue, loss of taste and smell, severe headaches and more. Stop underestimating just how problematic COVID can be even if you don't land in the hospital. The more severe symptoms of COVID and the subsequent long term health effects can be avoided by being vaccinated.

Vaccines are 100% the answer to this public health crisis both here and abroad. If you don't want to be vaccinated, that's fine, but it's ridiculous to constantly minimize the importance and effectivness of the COVID vaccine. And yes, every country should have access to the vaccine. The more people globally that are vaccinated, the better off we'll all be as a society.

Serious question, if you can still get
Covid even after vaccinated, how do we really know if a person won’t suffer any long term side effects being that the virus was in their system? Are we just assuming there won’t be any because the symptoms are less severe?

If the vaccine is 95% effective at minimizing the effects of COVID and preventing severe reactions and hospitalizations it would be safe to assume that very minor symptoms wouldn't cause long term issues. If most every COVID case is reduced to a very mild case with little to no symptoms than the impact of the virus on your health will most certainly be less. The more severe case of COVID, the more taxing on your immune system and body.

It's a personal choice and to each his own on whether or not they choose to get vaccinated but after having had a moderate case of COVID myself and seeing how that impacted me, I will take the 95% protection over zero.

Safe to assume, It’s an assumption, that’s all I needed to know. We are assuming.

Re your last paragraph:
Everyone keeps saying its everyones personal choice while at the same time belittling, criticizing and judging people for not rushing to get it and shoving it down everyone’s throat.

I truly don’t care what people decide and actually do support anyone who decides to get it the same way I support people who choose not too at this time.

I also had Covid and so far the vaccine symptoms and side effects sound 1000x worse than what I experienced. I probably won’t get it this year and just stick with my antibodies for now.

If being vaccinated means the symptoms of COVID are minimized then your body doesn't need to mount such an intense immune response to the virus in order for you to heal. Right now COVID symptoms run the gammit from mild to severe to death. If the vaccine can reduce COVID down to it being no worse then a common cold or virus then the threat of COVID goes away. How many people do you know that suffer long term from a cold, virus or even the flu? Most of us recover from those illnesses with no problem. If we can get to that point with COVID through the use of vaccines then the less we need to worry about long term health issues from having had it.

I'm sorry you had a terrible response to the vaccine, that sucks, but the good news for others is that intense reaction isn't common. So far the data shows most people have a mild, fleeting response in particular to the second shot. Unfortunately, there will always be some that respond worse to any given medication or vaccine, that's par for the course.

Lastly, I don't think most people are belittling or criticizing anyone and to be perfectly honest, those that don't want to be vaccinated are ramming their POV's down everyone's throat on these threads just as much, if not more, as those who believe in the vaccine. It goes both ways. I too don't particularly care what anyone else chooses to do, I'll make the decision that's best for me. I do of course think that we ALL benefit from a vaccinated population but I certainly am not going to spend my time stressing over what each individual decides to do with regards to this vaccine or any other for that matter.

Go online and tell people you don’t want to be vaccinated and see how they treat you. You are belittled, criticized, told you are selfish. Just because you haven’t encountered it, doesn’t mean it is not happening.

If that is happening to you and it is bothersome then maybe you should keep your choice and opinions on vaccination to yourself. Easy solution to the problem. If you keep putting those things out there and you keep getting a negative reaction from others than that is on you, not them at that point.

Or maybe the people who are doing that are the problem and @ssholes. This response is exactly what I am referring too. You basically just backed up my point.

Actually, no I didn't.

Many people are a$$holes but if you keep putting yourself into conversations or situations that aggravate you, that's on you. Walk away. I've walked away from many conversations, forums, people, situations, etc. in my life because it wasn't serving me in any positive way. This is the same thing. If you want to keep going at it with "a$$holes" online who frustrate and upset you than that's on you. They aren't going anywhere and certainly don't care about how you feel but you have the ability to remove yourself from the nonsense. Give yourself peace of mind, don't expect others to do that for you.

1. That is hilarious what you just said that YOU walk away. But I will move on....
2. It’s not just walking away as many places now you have to go sit elsewhere because you are not vaccinated. If you don’t think people will say things out and about then I have a bridge to sell you. This is becoming just like a left and right issue and I don’t think it will stop just online behind a computer screen.

I am out ALL the time. I've yet to be asked my vaccination status or be told I need to sit in a designated area. As usual, you like to create these falsehoods to support whatever point you're trying to make in the moment.

Secondly, I walk away all the time IF I feel like it. Some days I do, some days on LIF I really enjoy going back at you.

That aside, I stand by what I said. If you're tired of people not agreeing with you and giving you $hit over your vaccination status then walk away from those people.

You haven’t been to places obviously that are separating the vaccinated with the unvaccinated. Which you will be in the un so you will know then I guess :)

Please do tell EXACTLY where all of these places are that are separating people based on their vaccine status. Which stores? Which restaurants? I would love to know as I have yet to see a single store, restaurant, or other public venue separate anyone or ask for proof of vaccination. I'll wait....................

ETA - No "un" status for me. I get my first dose of Pfizer tomorrow morning.

As of right now, sporting events. If you don’t plan to go to them soon then you won’t have an issue.

Oh ok, so really nowhere are they separating people based on their vaccine status. That's what I thought.

As for sporting venues, thousands of people are coming together in close proximity to one another, I see nothing wrong with separating them. It's really no different than back in the day when we separated the smokers from the non smokers in restaurants or how we separate the sick kids at the pediatrician from the well kids. Really, what's the big deal? They aren't saying you can't be admitted to the venue.

ETA - You only have to wait 90 days if you had the infusion of antibodies when you were sick. I did not. My understanding is that initially they were telling ALL post-COVID people to wait due to lack of vaccine availability. Since you should have antibodies, there was no rush. But since the vaccine is now readily available, there is no reason to wait on getting it.

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This vax anti-vax back and forth is very much a first world problem. There is a clear disparity between the availability of the vaccine in "rich" countries (such as the US) and poorer ones (like India, African contries, etc). I'd bet there are many people living there who'd be rolling their eyes at this.

They are perfect candidates for the vaccine too. Their hospitals are not equipped to treat Covid patients. They have a higher chance of dying from Covid. I don’t understand why we’re not shipping vaccines there.

We are so focused on getting every single person vaccinated in the US and it just makes no sense.

Did anyone see the Yankees coach who tested positive despite getting the vaccine? And now they have to work on finding out all his close contacts? You can still get Covid with the vaccine you just won’t be hospitalized. The poorer countries who don’t have the medical facilities like us NEED the vaccine.

ETA, these ridiculous rules for vaccinated vs not vaccinated need to stop. Either go back to negative tests to enter places or just open up normally. The vaccinated have such a false sense of security. I wonder if the Yankees coach was vaccinated a while ago and it’s just not effective anymore and he was probably maskless around all his vaccinated friends. Notice how all these places requiring fully vaccinated do not care WHEN you were vaccinated.

95% efficacy in preventing severe COVID symptoms, hospitalization and death is NOT a false sense of security.

Getting as many people vaccinated in this country makes ALL the sense in the world. It's absolutely mind boggling that you cannot see the value in a vaccinated population. I for one enjoy not having to worry about measles, small pox, polio and more. I also look forward to not having to worry about having a severe case of COVID that can potentially kill me or leave me with long term health issues. I have friends who have had COVID, recovered and now continue to suffer with breathing issues, hearing loss, debilitating fatigue, loss of taste and smell, severe headaches and more. Stop underestimating just how problematic COVID can be even if you don't land in the hospital. The more severe symptoms of COVID and the subsequent long term health effects can be avoided by being vaccinated.

Vaccines are 100% the answer to this public health crisis both here and abroad. If you don't want to be vaccinated, that's fine, but it's ridiculous to constantly minimize the importance and effectivness of the COVID vaccine. And yes, every country should have access to the vaccine. The more people globally that are vaccinated, the better off we'll all be as a society.

Serious question, if you can still get
Covid even after vaccinated, how do we really know if a person won’t suffer any long term side effects being that the virus was in their system? Are we just assuming there won’t be any because the symptoms are less severe?

If the vaccine is 95% effective at minimizing the effects of COVID and preventing severe reactions and hospitalizations it would be safe to assume that very minor symptoms wouldn't cause long term issues. If most every COVID case is reduced to a very mild case with little to no symptoms than the impact of the virus on your health will most certainly be less. The more severe case of COVID, the more taxing on your immune system and body.

It's a personal choice and to each his own on whether or not they choose to get vaccinated but after having had a moderate case of COVID myself and seeing how that impacted me, I will take the 95% protection over zero.

Safe to assume, It’s an assumption, that’s all I needed to know. We are assuming.

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Everyone keeps saying its everyones personal choice while at the same time belittling, criticizing and judging people for not rushing to get it and shoving it down everyone’s throat.

I truly don’t care what people decide and actually do support anyone who decides to get it the same way I support people who choose not too at this time.

I also had Covid and so far the vaccine symptoms and side effects sound 1000x worse than what I experienced. I probably won’t get it this year and just stick with my antibodies for now.

If being vaccinated means the symptoms of COVID are minimized then your body doesn't need to mount such an intense immune response to the virus in order for you to heal. Right now COVID symptoms run the gammit from mild to severe to death. If the vaccine can reduce COVID down to it being no worse then a common cold or virus then the threat of COVID goes away. How many people do you know that suffer long term from a cold, virus or even the flu? Most of us recover from those illnesses with no problem. If we can get to that point with COVID through the use of vaccines then the less we need to worry about long term health issues from having had it.

I'm sorry you had a terrible response to the vaccine, that sucks, but the good news for others is that intense reaction isn't common. So far the data shows most people have a mild, fleeting response in particular to the second shot. Unfortunately, there will always be some that respond worse to any given medication or vaccine, that's par for the course.

Lastly, I don't think most people are belittling or criticizing anyone and to be perfectly honest, those that don't want to be vaccinated are ramming their POV's down everyone's throat on these threads just as much, if not more, as those who believe in the vaccine. It goes both ways. I too don't particularly care what anyone else chooses to do, I'll make the decision that's best for me. I do of course think that we ALL benefit from a vaccinated population but I certainly am not going to spend my time stressing over what each individual decides to do with regards to this vaccine or any other for that matter.

Go online and tell people you don’t want to be vaccinated and see how they treat you. You are belittled, criticized, told you are selfish. Just because you haven’t encountered it, doesn’t mean it is not happening.

If that is happening to you and it is bothersome then maybe you should keep your choice and opinions on vaccination to yourself. Easy solution to the problem. If you keep putting those things out there and you keep getting a negative reaction from others than that is on you, not them at that point.

Or maybe the people who are doing that are the problem and @ssholes. This response is exactly what I am referring too. You basically just backed up my point.

Actually, no I didn't.

Many people are a$$holes but if you keep putting yourself into conversations or situations that aggravate you, that's on you. Walk away. I've walked away from many conversations, forums, people, situations, etc. in my life because it wasn't serving me in any positive way. This is the same thing. If you want to keep going at it with "a$$holes" online who frustrate and upset you than that's on you. They aren't going anywhere and certainly don't care about how you feel but you have the ability to remove yourself from the nonsense. Give yourself peace of mind, don't expect others to do that for you.

1. That is hilarious what you just said that YOU walk away. But I will move on....
2. It’s not just walking away as many places now you have to go sit elsewhere because you are not vaccinated. If you don’t think people will say things out and about then I have a bridge to sell you. This is becoming just like a left and right issue and I don’t think it will stop just online behind a computer screen.

I am out ALL the time. I've yet to be asked my vaccination status or be told I need to sit in a designated area. As usual, you like to create these falsehoods to support whatever point you're trying to make in the moment.

Secondly, I walk away all the time IF I feel like it. Some days I do, some days on LIF I really enjoy going back at you.

That aside, I stand by what I said. If you're tired of people not agreeing with you and giving you $hit over your vaccination status then walk away from those people.

You haven’t been to places obviously that are separating the vaccinated with the unvaccinated. Which you will be in the un so you will know then I guess :)

Please do tell EXACTLY where all of these places are that are separating people based on their vaccine status. Which stores? Which restaurants? I would love to know as I have yet to see a single store, restaurant, or other public venue separate anyone or ask for proof of vaccination. I'll wait....................

ETA - No "un" status for me. I get my first dose of Pfizer tomorrow morning.

As of right now, sporting events. If you don’t plan to go to them soon then you won’t have an issue.

Oh ok, so really nowhere are they separating people based on their vaccine status. That's what I thought.

As for sporting venues, thousands of people are coming together in close proximity to one another, I see nothing wrong with separating them. It's really no different than back in the day when we separated the smokers from the non smokers in restaurants or how we separate the sick kids at the pediatrician from the well kids. Really, what's the big deal? They aren't saying you can't be admitted to the venue.

ETA - You only have to wait 90 days if you had the infusion of antibodies when you were sick. I did not. My understanding is that initially they were telling ALL post-COVID people to wait due to lack of vaccine availability. Since you should have antibodies, there was no rush. But since the vaccine is now readily available, there is no reason to wait on getting it.

Sooo you are not going to a sporting event soon, gotcha. That’s all you had to say :)

Oh ok I thought you said you had to wait 90 days, didn’t you?

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I want to know where all these people are that go to so many sporting events that this is a huge problem that is negatively affecting their life. I am fully vaccinated but if I go to a sports event with an unvaccinated person, I'll sit there instead. Who cares? I will sit wherever they freaking sit me.
DH & I ordered tickets for a Broadway show for October and there was no proof of vaccination required. People who aren't vaccinated aren't going to be excluded from as much as you all think.

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You will never make everyone happy. People want this perfect pre-covid world and that's just not going to happen right now. I am extremely grateful that my children have been in school, will get to go to camp this summer, that we have two vacations booked, and that my daughter will have an in person Pre-K graduation this month. Honestly, all of this normalcy is more than I could have hoped for at this time last year.
I still thank God every single day that I did not lose anyone extremely close to me. My DH is a small business owner and it hasn't been easy. We are grateful his restaurants will be at 100% next week.
Honestly, if your biggest concern is that you can't high five a fellow football fan, consider yourself lucky. People are still grieving loved ones. This pandemic has not been easy on anyone. We all want this to be over. And it will be, we are almost there. If, in the meantime, you need to stay socially distanced or whatever than so what...it's not forever.

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I want to know where all these people are that go to so many sporting events that this is a huge problem that is negatively affecting their life. I am fully vaccinated but if I go to a sports event with an unvaccinated person, I'll sit there instead. Who cares? I will sit wherever they freaking sit me.
DH & I ordered tickets for a Broadway show for October and there was no proof of vaccination required. People who aren't vaccinated aren't going to be excluded from as much as you all think.

I agree. although I dont the segregation is logical, I also dont think its a big deal.

Are they giving the better seats to the vaccinated? That is the only issue I can see people complain about. Or I guess die hard fans like certain seats, so I can see someone being annoyed if you cant sit where you normally sit. But what is normal nowadays?? Everyone has to deal.

So many other things that are so much worse to worry about. Im more concerned about the school mandates and forcing this on kids.

I'd actually prefer to sit in the unvaccinated section- it will be more spread out and comfy.

I hear ya. I prefer to drink, burp, scream and curse at my TV in the comfort of my own home.

So the Health Commissioner for NJ went on TV today and said Women should use their power of influence to convince the men to get the vaccine. It sounded sexists and degrading. I guess you can say and do anything to push this vaccine.

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I want to know where all these people are that go to so many sporting events that this is a huge problem that is negatively affecting their life. I am fully vaccinated but if I go to a sports event with an unvaccinated person, I'll sit there instead. Who cares? I will sit wherever they freaking sit me.
DH & I ordered tickets for a Broadway show for October and there was no proof of vaccination required. People who aren't vaccinated aren't going to be excluded from as much as you all think.

I agree. although I dont the segregation is logical, I also dont think its a big deal.

Are they giving the better seats to the vaccinated? That is the only issue I can see people complain about. Or I guess die hard fans like certain seats, so I can see someone being annoyed if you cant sit where you normally sit. But what is normal nowadays?? Everyone has to deal.

So many other things that are so much worse to worry about. Im more concerned about the school mandates and forcing this on kids.

I'd actually prefer to sit in the unvaccinated section- it will be more spread out and comfy.

I hear ya. I prefer to drink, burp, scream and curse at my TV in the comfort of my own home.

So the Health Commissioner for NJ went on TV today and said Women should use their power of influence to convince the men to get the vaccine. It sounded sexists and degrading. I guess you can say and do anything to push this vaccine.

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I want to know where all these people are that go to so many sporting events that this is a huge problem that is negatively affecting their life. I am fully vaccinated but if I go to a sports event with an unvaccinated person, I'll sit there instead. Who cares? I will sit wherever they freaking sit me.
DH & I ordered tickets for a Broadway show for October and there was no proof of vaccination required. People who aren't vaccinated aren't going to be excluded from as much as you all think.

I agree. although I dont the segregation is logical, I also dont think its a big deal.

Are they giving the better seats to the vaccinated? That is the only issue I can see people complain about. Or I guess die hard fans like certain seats, so I can see someone being annoyed if you cant sit where you normally sit. But what is normal nowadays?? Everyone has to deal.

So many other things that are so much worse to worry about. Im more concerned about the school mandates and forcing this on kids.

I'd actually prefer to sit in the unvaccinated section- it will be more spread out and comfy.

I hear ya. I prefer to drink, burp, scream and curse at my TV in the comfort of my own home.

So the Health Commissioner for NJ went on TV today and said Women should use their power of influence to convince the men to get the vaccine. It sounded sexists and degrading. I guess you can say and do anything to push this vaccine.

Wtf??? I hope he gets a lot of heat for the major stupidity that came out of his mouth!

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I want to know where all these people are that go to so many sporting events that this is a huge problem that is negatively affecting their life. I am fully vaccinated but if I go to a sports event with an unvaccinated person, I'll sit there instead. Who cares? I will sit wherever they freaking sit me.
DH & I ordered tickets for a Broadway show for October and there was no proof of vaccination required. People who aren't vaccinated aren't going to be excluded from as much as you all think.

I agree. although I dont the segregation is logical, I also dont think its a big deal.

Are they giving the better seats to the vaccinated? That is the only issue I can see people complain about. Or I guess die hard fans like certain seats, so I can see someone being annoyed if you cant sit where you normally sit. But what is normal nowadays?? Everyone has to deal.

So many other things that are so much worse to worry about. Im more concerned about the school mandates and forcing this on kids.

I'd actually prefer to sit in the unvaccinated section- it will be more spread out and comfy.

I hear ya. I prefer to drink, burp, scream and curse at my TV in the comfort of my own home.

So the Health Commissioner for NJ went on TV today and said Women should use their power of influence to convince the men to get the vaccine. It sounded sexists and degrading. I guess you can say and do anything to push this vaccine.

Wtf??? I hope he gets a lot of heat for the major stupidity that came out of his mouth!

It’s actually a female which was even more surprising and they keep showing it on NJ 12 like that’s ok to say. I guess it would’ve been worse if it was a men but still. I was watching Stunned, thinking how is this ok to say??

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I want to know where all these people are that go to so many sporting events that this is a huge problem that is negatively affecting their life. I am fully vaccinated but if I go to a sports event with an unvaccinated person, I'll sit there instead. Who cares? I will sit wherever they freaking sit me.
DH & I ordered tickets for a Broadway show for October and there was no proof of vaccination required. People who aren't vaccinated aren't going to be excluded from as much as you all think.

I agree. although I dont the segregation is logical, I also dont think its a big deal.

Are they giving the better seats to the vaccinated? That is the only issue I can see people complain about. Or I guess die hard fans like certain seats, so I can see someone being annoyed if you cant sit where you normally sit. But what is normal nowadays?? Everyone has to deal.

So many other things that are so much worse to worry about. Im more concerned about the school mandates and forcing this on kids.

I'd actually prefer to sit in the unvaccinated section- it will be more spread out and comfy.

I hear ya. I prefer to drink, burp, scream and curse at my TV in the comfort of my own home.

So the Health Commissioner for NJ went on TV today and said Women should use their power of influence to convince the men to get the vaccine. It sounded sexists and degrading. I guess you can say and do anything to push this vaccine.

Wtf??? I hope he gets a lot of heat for the major stupidity that came out of his mouth!

It’s actually a female which was even more surprising and they keep showing it on NJ 12 like that’s ok to say. I guess it would’ve been worse if it was a men but still. I was watching Stunned, thinking how is this ok to say??

Perhaps we can over free hookers to any man who gets vaccinated next. The government can pay them their going rate since we seem to be throwing out money like it grows on trees anyway
This country has seriously lost it's fukin mind.

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I want to know where all these people are that go to so many sporting events that this is a huge problem that is negatively affecting their life. I am fully vaccinated but if I go to a sports event with an unvaccinated person, I'll sit there instead. Who cares? I will sit wherever they freaking sit me.
DH & I ordered tickets for a Broadway show for October and there was no proof of vaccination required. People who aren't vaccinated aren't going to be excluded from as much as you all think.

I agree. although I dont the segregation is logical, I also dont think its a big deal.

Are they giving the better seats to the vaccinated? That is the only issue I can see people complain about. Or I guess die hard fans like certain seats, so I can see someone being annoyed if you cant sit where you normally sit. But what is normal nowadays?? Everyone has to deal.

So many other things that are so much worse to worry about. Im more concerned about the school mandates and forcing this on kids.

I'd actually prefer to sit in the unvaccinated section- it will be more spread out and comfy.

I hear ya. I prefer to drink, burp, scream and curse at my TV in the comfort of my own home.

So the Health Commissioner for NJ went on TV today and said Women should use their power of influence to convince the men to get the vaccine. It sounded sexists and degrading. I guess you can say and do anything to push this vaccine.

Is he trying to say we should offer men bj's to get the vaccine?
What a disgusting and sexist thing to say.
Wow

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I want to know where all these people are that go to so many sporting events that this is a huge problem that is negatively affecting their life. I am fully vaccinated but if I go to a sports event with an unvaccinated person, I'll sit there instead. Who cares? I will sit wherever they freaking sit me.
DH & I ordered tickets for a Broadway show for October and there was no proof of vaccination required. People who aren't vaccinated aren't going to be excluded from as much as you all think.

I agree. although I dont the segregation is logical, I also dont think its a big deal.

Are they giving the better seats to the vaccinated? That is the only issue I can see people complain about. Or I guess die hard fans like certain seats, so I can see someone being annoyed if you cant sit where you normally sit. But what is normal nowadays?? Everyone has to deal.

So many other things that are so much worse to worry about. Im more concerned about the school mandates and forcing this on kids.

I'd actually prefer to sit in the unvaccinated section- it will be more spread out and comfy.

I hear ya. I prefer to drink, burp, scream and curse at my TV in the comfort of my own home.

So the Health Commissioner for NJ went on TV today and said Women should use their power of influence to convince the men to get the vaccine. It sounded sexists and degrading. I guess you can say and do anything to push this vaccine.

Wtf??? I hope he gets a lot of heat for the major stupidity that came out of his mouth!

It’s actually a female which was even more surprising and they keep showing it on NJ 12 like that’s ok to say. I guess it would’ve been worse if it was a men but still. I was watching Stunned, thinking how is this ok to say??

Perhaps we can over free hookers to any man who gets vaccinated next. The government can pay them their going rate since we seem to be throwing out money like it grows on trees anyway
This country has seriously lost it's fukin mind.

You haven’t heard of the new campaigns:

- Vixens for Vax
- BaV: BJs against Vids

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Everyone can breathe a sigh of relief. The vaccinated section of citi field is the nose bleed section. So you haven't been stuck Rosa Parks style at the back of the stadium.

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