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Holly
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Re: Tankleff murder charges dropped.
Posted by Beth1210
Posted by KellyFG
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Posted by Pumpkin
I hope Marty sues whomever he can and is able to lead a long happy, and healthy life.
Careful what you wish for if you live in Suffolk County, that comes out of your tax dollars.
the worst part is that our tax dollars already afforded that scum bag cop a great life.
and all the tax dollars wasted on the orginal trial to convict the wrong person
I can think of worse things for tax dollars to go to then an inocent man that lost his parents, childhood, and 17 years of his life!
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And our tax dollars kept the wrong person in jail--a child at age 17, who saw his parents murdered and then served half of his life in prison. Marty deserves the best in life and I hope he sues the pants off of everyone he can!
I hope they lockup the b@stard who killed his parents. The system S ucks! 
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Re: Tankleff murder charges dropped.
Posted by dita
Posted by Beth1210
Posted by dita
Posted by Pumpkin
I hope Marty sues whomever he can and is able to lead a long happy, and healthy life.
Careful what you wish for if you live in Suffolk County, that comes out of your tax dollars.
what an awful way to think
If I think he is innocent that that is awful but I really don't think he is.
Tom Spota cannot pursue the indictment because the evidence that was available is no longer available today. That was 17 years ago.
Tankleff testified and could not convince a jury he was innocent.
And by the way- the evil prosecutor on this case has been your bureau chief of homicide for 20 years. Prosecutors don't have motives to put innocent people in jail. Don't forget proof beyond reasonable doubt is a high burden not taken lightly by jurors.
Don't believe all the media hype.
I don't believe the media hype, I've read every article & watched every story relating to this case over the last 20 years. I saw Marty in person at his neighbors party about a month before the murder. He was a skinny little nemish that like to smoke weed, I do not believe for one second that he could have nearly decapitated his mother that probably outweighed him by 50 lbs.
I do however believe plenty of police officers no matter how high their rank do awful things that they should not do & I believe 100% that it will come to light that marty was intentionally set up.
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Beth
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Re: Tankleff murder charges dropped.
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Don't believe all the media hype.
I don't believe media hype- I believe in evidence
and there isn't any
people make mistakes- we are all human- the good people of this world own up to them
this was the town next to the one I grew up- we have been following this case for years
even my late Mother thought Marty was innocent- and she never believed anyone
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CAH127
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Re: Tankleff murder charges dropped.
Posted by dita
Posted by Beth1210
Posted by dita
Posted by Pumpkin
I hope Marty sues whomever he can and is able to lead a long happy, and healthy life.
Careful what you wish for if you live in Suffolk County, that comes out of your tax dollars.
what an awful way to think
If I think he is innocent that that is awful but I really don't think he is.
Tom Spota cannot pursue the indictment because the evidence that was available is no longer available today. That was 17 years ago.
Tankleff testified and could not convince a jury he was innocent.
And by the way- the evil prosecutor on this case has been your bureau chief of homicide for 20 years. Prosecutors don't have motives to put innocent people in jail. Don't forget proof beyond reasonable doubt is a high burden not taken lightly by jurors.
Don't believe all the media hype.
All the evidence they had is still there. What could possibly be gone? They will not move forward because given all the new statements, that is reasonable doubt for a jury. You also had the main detective testify during trial on the stand he never met the bagel guy, but several have signed statements that they had seen the two socializing before the murders. Now that is out, what is this detective going to testify to on the stand now?
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Re: Tankleff murder charges dropped.
Posted by dita
Posted by Beth1210
Posted by dita
Posted by Pumpkin
I hope Marty sues whomever he can and is able to lead a long happy, and healthy life.
Careful what you wish for if you live in Suffolk County, that comes out of your tax dollars.
what an awful way to think
If I think he is innocent that that is awful but I really don't think he is.
Tom Spota cannot pursue the indictment because the evidence that was available is no longer available today. That was 17 years ago.
Tankleff testified and could not convince a jury he was innocent.
And by the way- the evil prosecutor on this case has been your bureau chief of homicide for 20 years. Prosecutors don't have motives to put innocent people in jail. Don't forget proof beyond reasonable doubt is a high burden not taken lightly by jurors.
Don't believe all the media hype.
and BTW we can agree to disagree, I respect your opinion.
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CAH127
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Re: Tankleff murder charges dropped.
Posted by KellyFG
I do however believe plenty of police officers no matter how high their rank do awful things that they should not do & I believe 100% that it will come to light that marty was intentionally set up.
It is not "Plenty of police officers." Maybe a few and they ruin the name for the rest that are honest and work their butts off.
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lucyloo
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Re: Tankleff murder charges dropped.
Posted by KellyFG
I don't believe the media hype, I've read every article & watched every story relating to this case over the last 20 years. I saw Marty in person at his neighbors party about a month before the murder. He was a skinny little nemish that like to smoke weed, I do not believe for one second that he could have nearly decapitated his mother that probably outweighed him by 50 lbs.
I do however believe plenty of police officers no matter how high their rank do awful things that they should not do & I believe 100% that it will come to light that marty was intentionally set up.
You don't believe the media hype but all your information is from the media no?
Why would a hit man (what Marty claims) use a dumbell to smash in a woman's skull? (she was not decapitated) Hit men get the job done quickly and it would be much easier to use a gun.
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lucyloo
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Re: Tankleff murder charges dropped.
Posted by KellyFG
and BTW we can agree to disagree, I respect your opinion.
ditto
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CAH127
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Re: Tankleff murder charges dropped.
Posted by dita
Posted by KellyFG
I don't believe the media hype, I've read every article & watched every story relating to this case over the last 20 years. I saw Marty in person at his neighbors party about a month before the murder. He was a skinny little nemish that like to smoke weed, I do not believe for one second that he could have nearly decapitated his mother that probably outweighed him by 50 lbs.
I do however believe plenty of police officers no matter how high their rank do awful things that they should not do & I believe 100% that it will come to light that marty was intentionally set up.
You don't believe the media hype but all your information is from the media no?
Why would a hit man (what Marty claims) use a dumbell to smash in a woman's skull? (she was not decapitated) Hit men get the job done quickly and it would be much easier to use a gun.
There is no evidence of a dumbell being used. That is the story the cops came up with while writing his confession and he agreed to it.
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lucyloo
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Re: Tankleff murder charges dropped.
Posted by CAH127
All the evidence they had is still there. What could possibly be gone? ?UOTE]
As Spota said: "Witnesses die, memories fade and applicable law changes". It is almost impossible to retry a case 17 years later.
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lucyloo
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Re: Tankleff murder charges dropped.
Posted by CAH127
There is no evidence of a dumbell being used. That is the story the cops came up with while writing his confession and he agreed to it.
There was blunt force trauma to the back of her head and a bloody barbell was found at the scene.
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CAH127
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Re: Tankleff murder charges dropped.
Posted by dita
Posted by CAH127
There is no evidence of a dumbell being used. That is the story the cops came up with while writing his confession and he agreed to it.
There was blunt force trauma to the back of her head and a bloody barbell was found at the scene.
There was no blood found on the dumbell and knife that was part of the written confession. That is the story they got him to say and when they investigated, they found no blood.
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Beth
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Re: Tankleff murder charges dropped.
I just saw on the news that a p rivate investisgator has evidence that implicates 4 people included there "business partner" that owed Marty's parents $500K
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Re: Tankleff murder charges dropped.
Hey everyone!!!!!! I was out for the afternoon and when I came home I was actually on The Marty support website involved in a long discussion about his sister. I went right to that discussion and never saw the posts about the charges being dropped! I even had the TV on in the background and managed to miss the news until I started to read more on the site (martytankleff.org).
WOW. What a week.
I have never met anyone who has followed the case closely and has read the legal papers and transcripts and still believes he is guilty. Anyone I have met who believes he is guilty has not followed the case. I read a 243 page brief written by the prosecutor and they still could not convince me!!!!!!
There is still going to be an investigation but I am not sure if the DNA tests against Creedon, Kent and Steuerman are still going to be done.
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Re: Tankleff murder charges dropped.
Posted by dita
Posted by CAH127
There is no evidence of a dumbell being used. That is the story the cops came up with while writing his confession and he agreed to it.
There was blunt force trauma to the back of her head and a bloody barbell was found at the scene.
Not true! Marty had barbells in his bedroom. They were taken apart as part of the investigation. There were no traces of blood found on them. There was expert testimony that his father's head wound was consistent with a wound caused by a hammer, or similarly shaped item, which would make a wound of a different size and shape than a barbell.
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Re: Tankleff murder charges dropped.
The more I read about this, the more terrible I feel. I just can't imagine living a life in prison for a crime you did not commit. I sure hope the public and his family can help Marty have a great life from here on...by support, donations, etc. Wow. Just horrible. And if my tax dollars can help this man regain his life, I am fine with that. He deserves major reparations for what has happened to him and I support him sueing, no matter WHERE the money comes from. Please, to think of what our $$ goes to for people who don't deserve it IMO. So this one is far from a concern for me re my tax $.
And I do think young people (even some older people) can get talked into confessing something they did not see/do, esp if they are told to "say this" and you will be free....or you will have it easier...and so they just want out of the situation. They are distraught, overwhelmed, confused, sad, scared, etc...they lack judgement.
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mikeswife06
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Re: Tankleff murder charges dropped.
Posted by dita
Posted by Beth1210
Posted by dita
Posted by Pumpkin
I hope Marty sues whomever he can and is able to lead a long happy, and healthy life.
Careful what you wish for if you live in Suffolk County, that comes out of your tax dollars.
what an awful way to think
If I think he is innocent that that is awful but I really don't think he is.
Tom Spota cannot pursue the indictment because the evidence that was available is no longer available today. That was 17 years ago.
Tankleff testified and could not convince a jury he was innocent.
And by the way- the evil prosecutor on this case has been your bureau chief of homicide for 20 years. Prosecutors don't have motives to put innocent people in jail. Don't forget proof beyond reasonable doubt is a high burden not taken lightly by jurors.
Don't believe all the media hype.
I respect your opinion as well but, I don't agree with these statements at all. My husband went to school with Marty and says there is no way this kid did that.
As for your statements, some will say prosecutors don't have motives to put innocent people in jail, others will say all they want is a conviction. Just because the prosecutor has a successful career does not mean he is always right. Just because a jury was not convinced does not make the guy guilty. In the last 17 years more than 200 people have been exonerated in this country.
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CAH127
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Re: Tankleff murder charges dropped.
Posted by Goobster
The more I read about this, the more terrible I feel. I just can't imagine living a life in prison for a crime you did not commit. I sure hope the public and his family can help Marty have a great life from here on...by support, donations, etc. Wow. Just horrible. And if my tax dollars can help this man regain his life, I am fine with that. He deserves major reparations for what has happened to him and I support him sueing, no matter WHERE the money comes from. Please, to think of what our $$ goes to for people who don't deserve it IMO. So this one is far from a concern for me re my tax $.
And I do think young people (even some older people) can get talked into confessing something they did not see/do, esp if they are told to "say this" and you will be free....or you will have it easier...and so they just want out of the situation. They are distraught, overwhelmed, confused, sad, scared, etc...they lack judgement.
I feel the same exactly. If it is my tax dollars that helps him and that is where it comes from, I am fine with it.
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pharmcat2000
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Re: Tankleff murder charges dropped.
Posted by DaniRella
WOW! Does anyone know... What was the smoking gun? What was the piece of evidence that let him off the hook?? Who do they think did it instead?
I feel really bad for him - The justice system is so far from perfect and it is really sad when you hear stories of people that are victims of the system's flaws. 
According to the news, the way they finally got him out was that the defense built a case against the others (the dad's business partner I think). They also had a confession from the guy who drove the "getaway car' that night.
What I found to be kind of double talk from Spota was that he said that he won't be retried, because they woundn't be able to get a conviction at this point, which kind of led me to think that they didn't really believe he was innocent -- just that it's been too long to really put on a good trial again. But then later he said that he is asking a special prosecutor to investigate the scenario alleged by the defense. If he didn't believe the defense's story, why would he be asking for a special prosecutor? It sounded to me like he believes the alternate scenario and wants somebody independent to look into it.
Not only is it horrible that Marty lost 19 years of his life (this happened in 1988), but it was possibly the most important, the most pivotal years of his life. The time when he should have been going to college, being young and stupid with his friends, finding a wife, and starting a family. It is just so tragic what has happened. and I say, if he can sue, he should. He should also be given a judgement to recoup all of his parents' money that should have gone to him.
ETA: I don't always think that prosecutors have a motive to convict the wrong person, but when there is so much media hype about a case and there is pressure to convict somebody, they might do so with certain blinders on. And, if they have terrific careers and convict tens of thousands of guilty people, but 1 wrong person, then that 1 person is the biggest failure of their career, IMO.
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