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Re: They/Them
Posted by Diane
Posted by MrsWoods
Funny how the people on here saying their kids should be respectful of others are the ones who talk sh&t about others on here and elsewhere. Very interesting.
I was just about to say something. I know and then go on and call someone as idiot. Hypocrites.
I never realized there were 3 genders, he/she/they/them?
By saying they or them kid of sounds like you are putting them in another category. I dont understand?
It actually sounds worse to me too and no there are 70 something genders, you are a day late and a dollar short. 
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Re: They/Them
Posted by soontobemommyof2
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Posted by MrsWoods
Funny how the people on here saying their kids should be respectful of others are the ones who talk sh&t about others on here and elsewhere. Very interesting.
Yes I think ultimately our kids will imitate our behavior so it's great if you tell them to behave in a certain way, but if you yourself can't restrain yourself from referring to people as stupid or an idiot, you can't really expect your kids not to do the same.
Exactly!!
“Selective” respect. 
But exactly. Not everyone is deserving of your respect, your time, your attention or your kindness.
And since we ALL know we're referring to the "relationship" that I have on this forum with windy, I will say that there is something extremely wrong with this individual and the way she approaches almost everyone on here. She looks for a fight with most everyone, she goads people into arguments and continually repeats herself ad nauseum to get a rise.
Don't confuse how someone treats people in real life with how they interact with a troublemaker on a forum. 
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Re: They/Them
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by Hofstra26
What do names have to do with it? Everyone has a name, that's how everyone introduces themselves. Nothing has changed. But when someone is referring to a person, even when using their name, a pronoun needs to be included.
Example - "I was talking to Mark the other day, HE said he won't be at work on Friday".
Now, if Mark didn't identify with the pronoun "he" and asked that you say "they" it doesn't mean you don't refer to him by name. You just change the pronoun.
You don't seem to understand pronoun usage and I guess that's where your confusion lies. Maybe work on that because your comments on here have come across as very intolerant and ignorant.
Actually some non-binary people do prefer for their names to be used only, no pronouns. So they wouldn’t go by he/she/they.
And again, as I've said many times, refer to people however they ask. If you don't know, you can be faulted. If you're explicitly asked to refer to a person in a certain manner, whether that be by name or pronoun, then do it.
How often do you come across this situation in your life as honestly, I am out a lot more than you, and older, and don't know if I ever have before. You make it sound like it is an everyday occurance.
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Re: They/Them
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by jellybean78
Posted by lululu
Posted by MrsWoods
Funny how the people on here saying their kids should be respectful of others are the ones who talk sh&t about others on here and elsewhere. Very interesting.
Yes I think ultimately our kids will imitate our behavior so it's great if you tell them to behave in a certain way, but if you yourself can't restrain yourself from referring to people as stupid or an idiot, you can't really expect your kids not to do the same.
Exactly!!
“Selective” respect.
But exactly. Not everyone is deserving of your respect, your time, your attention or your kindness.
And since we ALL know we're referring to the "relationship" that I have on this forum with windy, I will say that there is something extremely wrong with this individual and the way she approaches almost everyone on here. She looks for a fight with most everyone, she goads people into arguments and continually repeats herself ad nauseum to get a rise.
Don't confuse how someone treats people in real life with how they interact with a troublemaker on a forum.
Do you STILL not see they hypocrisy in this AT.ALL??? You are picking me out and calling me names.
You have friends who have confirmed how you are in real life. Do you want to see your friend Anthony's posts once again? The one you de-friended as well as others on social media because they did not agree with you?
It is YOU, 100% so don't blame someone for YOUR bad attitude.
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Re: They/Them
Posted by Diane
Posted by MrsWoods
Funny how the people on here saying their kids should be respectful of others are the ones who talk sh&t about others on here and elsewhere. Very interesting.
I was just about to say something. I know and then go on and call someone as idiot. Hypocrites.
I never realized there were 3 genders, he/she/they/them?
By saying they or them kid of sounds like you are putting them in another category. I dont understand?
That’s what my cousin said. As a transgender female, she’s told me that non binary should want people to refer to them by their name not they/them. She says these pronouns are causing people to put them in a lower category then others. She believes they should be called by their chosen name and not belittle themselves into nothing.
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Re: They/Them
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by jellybean78
Posted by lululu
Posted by MrsWoods
Funny how the people on here saying their kids should be respectful of others are the ones who talk sh&t about others on here and elsewhere. Very interesting.
Yes I think ultimately our kids will imitate our behavior so it's great if you tell them to behave in a certain way, but if you yourself can't restrain yourself from referring to people as stupid or an idiot, you can't really expect your kids not to do the same.
Exactly!!
“Selective” respect.
But exactly. Not everyone is deserving of your respect, your time, your attention or your kindness.
And since we ALL know we're referring to the "relationship" that I have on this forum with windy, I will say that there is something extremely wrong with this individual and the way she approaches almost everyone on here. She looks for a fight with most everyone, she goads people into arguments and continually repeats herself ad nauseum to get a rise.
Don't confuse how someone treats people in real life with how they interact with a troublemaker on a forum.
Mhm. That’s not what I heard.
Sometimes people are who they are here and elsewhere. Respect is earned not deserved.
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Re: They/Them
Posted by MrsWoods
Posted by Diane
Posted by MrsWoods
Funny how the people on here saying their kids should be respectful of others are the ones who talk sh&t about others on here and elsewhere. Very interesting.
I was just about to say something. I know and then go on and call someone as idiot. Hypocrites.
I never realized there were 3 genders, he/she/they/them?
By saying they or them kid of sounds like you are putting them in another category. I dont understand?
That’s what my cousin said. As a transgender female, she’s told me that non binary should want people to refer to them by their name not they/them. She says these pronouns are causing people to put them in a lower category then others. She believes they should be called by their chosen name and not belittle themselves into nothing.
It's funny- I thought about that when I was reading this thread.
It's almost like calling a person "it" or "that"
I remember growing up there was a woman in our neighborhood who used to refer to her kids as "this" and "that". Everyone thought it was a terrible way to refer to your children- like they were objects. Granted this woman wasn't playing with a full deck... but that's another story.
But yeah the them or they think kind of didn't sit right with me- and I think that may be why
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Re: They/Them
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by MrsWoods
Posted by Diane
Posted by MrsWoods
Funny how the people on here saying their kids should be respectful of others are the ones who talk sh&t about others on here and elsewhere. Very interesting.
I was just about to say something. I know and then go on and call someone as idiot. Hypocrites.
I never realized there were 3 genders, he/she/they/them?
By saying they or them kid of sounds like you are putting them in another category. I dont understand?
That’s what my cousin said. As a transgender female, she’s told me that non binary should want people to refer to them by their name not they/them. She says these pronouns are causing people to put them in a lower category then others. She believes they should be called by their chosen name and not belittle themselves into nothing.
It's funny- I thought about that when I was reading this thread.
It's almost like calling a person "it" or "that"
I remember growing up there was a woman in our neighborhood who used to refer to her kids as "this" and "that". Everyone thought it was a terrible way to refer to your children- like they were objects. Granted this woman wasn't playing with a full deck... but that's another story.
But yeah the them or they think kind of didn't sit right with me- and I think that may be why
If there’s is one takeaway people should take from this, it’s not about how “We” feel about it. It’s about the individual person. It a person wants to be referred as “they/them/their” then we should respect it. It obviously empowers some people.
And maybe the second takeaway could be that my son probably just has bad grammar and wasn’t being woke at all. LOL.
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Re: They/Them
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by MrsWoods
Posted by Diane
Posted by MrsWoods
Funny how the people on here saying their kids should be respectful of others are the ones who talk sh&t about others on here and elsewhere. Very interesting.
I was just about to say something. I know and then go on and call someone as idiot. Hypocrites.
I never realized there were 3 genders, he/she/they/them?
By saying they or them kid of sounds like you are putting them in another category. I dont understand?
That’s what my cousin said. As a transgender female, she’s told me that non binary should want people to refer to them by their name not they/them. She says these pronouns are causing people to put them in a lower category then others. She believes they should be called by their chosen name and not belittle themselves into nothing.
It's funny- I thought about that when I was reading this thread.
It's almost like calling a person "it" or "that"
I remember growing up there was a woman in our neighborhood who used to refer to her kids as "this" and "that". Everyone thought it was a terrible way to refer to your children- like they were objects. Granted this woman wasn't playing with a full deck... but that's another story.
But yeah the them or they think kind of didn't sit right with me- and I think that may be why
Exactly. Not everyone in that community thinks it’s a good thing for it to be used but I think because celebrities have made this popular, they have adopted it as a positive thing.
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Re: They/Them
Posted by MrsWoods
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by jellybean78
Posted by lululu
Posted by MrsWoods
Funny how the people on here saying their kids should be respectful of others are the ones who talk sh&t about others on here and elsewhere. Very interesting.
Yes I think ultimately our kids will imitate our behavior so it's great if you tell them to behave in a certain way, but if you yourself can't restrain yourself from referring to people as stupid or an idiot, you can't really expect your kids not to do the same.
Exactly!!
“Selective” respect.
But exactly. Not everyone is deserving of your respect, your time, your attention or your kindness.
And since we ALL know we're referring to the "relationship" that I have on this forum with windy, I will say that there is something extremely wrong with this individual and the way she approaches almost everyone on here. She looks for a fight with most everyone, she goads people into arguments and continually repeats herself ad nauseum to get a rise.
Don't confuse how someone treats people in real life with how they interact with a troublemaker on a forum.
Mhm. That’s not what I heard.
Sometimes people are who they are here and elsewhere. Respect is earned not deserved.
You should know also as you are friends with someone who also is her friend or WAS.
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Re: They/Them
Posted by Sash
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by MrsWoods
Posted by Diane
Posted by MrsWoods
Funny how the people on here saying their kids should be respectful of others are the ones who talk sh&t about others on here and elsewhere. Very interesting.
I was just about to say something. I know and then go on and call someone as idiot. Hypocrites.
I never realized there were 3 genders, he/she/they/them?
By saying they or them kid of sounds like you are putting them in another category. I dont understand?
That’s what my cousin said. As a transgender female, she’s told me that non binary should want people to refer to them by their name not they/them. She says these pronouns are causing people to put them in a lower category then others. She believes they should be called by their chosen name and not belittle themselves into nothing.
It's funny- I thought about that when I was reading this thread.
It's almost like calling a person "it" or "that"
I remember growing up there was a woman in our neighborhood who used to refer to her kids as "this" and "that". Everyone thought it was a terrible way to refer to your children- like they were objects. Granted this woman wasn't playing with a full deck... but that's another story.
But yeah the them or they think kind of didn't sit right with me- and I think that may be why
If there’s is one takeaway people should take from this, it’s not about how “We” feel about it. It’s about the individual person. It a person wants to be referred as “they/them/their” then we should respect it. It obviously empowers some people.
And maybe the second takeaway could be that my son probably just has bad grammar and wasn’t being woke at all. LOL.
Yes and OMG
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Re: They/Them
Posted by mxoxom2004
Yes, gotta love some of the people on LIF.
Kindness costs nothing but I guess that is too high a price to pay for some people.
1.2 million LGBTQ people in the US identify as non-binary and use the pronouns they/them. Perhaps to some this seems like a "very, very" small number, an example of "Woke" culture or just the diabolical work of the Liberals but perhaps, just perhaps, maybe this number is small because of some of the attitudes expressed on this thread are indicative of how non-binary people are viewed and treated in this country.
Maybe if people were actually compassionate instead of claiming to be, more people would feel SAFE expressing their feeling on their gender identity.
Can I ask what has you so bothered? 1.2 million out of 330 million actually would be considered a pretty small number. I don't recall any comments on this thread or ever that indicated people should not be compassionate to anyone. Everyone has said that they will call anyone what they want to be called. Some are saying that they are not going to have their children go around proactively asking people their preferred pronouns or worrying if they get it wrong. I don't go around asking anyone so I am certainly not going to have my children.
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Re: They/Them
Posted by lululu
Posted by mxoxom2004
Yes, gotta love some of the people on LIF.
Kindness costs nothing but I guess that is too high a price to pay for some people.
1.2 million LGBTQ people in the US identify as non-binary and use the pronouns they/them. Perhaps to some this seems like a "very, very" small number, an example of "Woke" culture or just the diabolical work of the Liberals but perhaps, just perhaps, maybe this number is small because of some of the attitudes expressed on this thread are indicative of how non-binary people are viewed and treated in this country.
Maybe if people were actually compassionate instead of claiming to be, more people would feel SAFE expressing their feeling on their gender identity.
Can I ask what has you so bothered? 1.2 million out of 330 million actually would be considered a pretty small number. I don't recall any comments on this thread or ever that indicated people should not be compassionate to anyone. Everyone has said that they will call anyone what they want to be called. Some are saying that they are not going to have their children go around proactively asking people their preferred pronouns or worrying if they get it wrong. I don't go around asking anyone so I am certainly not going to have my children.
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Re: They/Them
I honestly don't think anyone on this thread has said they will purposely call someone a pronoun they asked not to be called. Or ignore a request by a person to be called a certain pronoun just to be a real asshole
Or teach their kid to do that.
But everything gets spun.
Everything
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Re: They/Them
Posted by NervousNell
I honestly don't think anyone on this thread has said they will purposely call someone a pronoun they asked not to be called. Or ignore a request by a person to be called a certain pronoun just to be a real asshole
Or teach their kid to do that.
But everything gets spun.
Everything
It is seriously unREAL.
It's as if people don't want to read or are just already so on attack mode they don't see what is actually being said.
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Re: They/Them
My kids and we use the pronouns our friends have professed we use for them. My kids, husband, and I all use he/she that match our biological gender. Some of my kids friends are they/them and we use that pronoun to address them. One of my friends kids is FTM transgender and we use their new name and pronouns too.
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Re: They/Them
Posted by NervousNell
I honestly don't think anyone on this thread has said they will purposely call someone a pronoun they asked not to be called. Or ignore a request by a person to be called a certain pronoun just to be a real asshole
Or teach their kid to do that.
But everything gets spun.
Everything
Well I saw this earlier in the thread:
. It sounds extremely weird and awkward. The whole concept is silly. Even if you don’t feel like a boy or a girl , you are biologically one or the other. Feel however you like internally, but don’t expect other people to cater to it with this silliness.
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Re: They/Them
Posted by lululu
Posted by NervousNell
I honestly don't think anyone on this thread has said they will purposely call someone a pronoun they asked not to be called. Or ignore a request by a person to be called a certain pronoun just to be a real asshole
Or teach their kid to do that.
But everything gets spun.
Everything
It is seriously unREAL.
It's as if people don't want to read or are just already so on attack mode they don't see what is actually being said.
Yes, it’s super common amongst teens these days. Major social contagion. I roll my eyes whenever I hear , “ they/ them, personally. So silly.
It sounds extremely weird and awkward. The whole concept is silly. Even if you don’t feel like a boy or a girl , you are biologically one or the other. Feel however you like internally, but don’t expect other people to cater to it with this silliness.
Who you like and what you do in your bedroom should mean NOTHING to anyone else but yourself. You do you but to push it on these kids that they need to come out as one of these 70 something genders and for businesses to have to put on their forms, male, female or other is just ridiculous.
“ Whatever someone identifies with isn’t what sexual organ they were born with.”
Amazing this has worked for a LONG time and everyone was fine with it.
They / them is silly because it’s asking people to use made up words that defy material reality. I don’t like having my speech policed and I don’t like being asked to use words that I feel reflect fantasy.
My kids are as compassionate as they come. You raise compassionate kids by showing them how to love, give and embrace however that doesn't mean as as a parent have to force them to worry about how the may offend a VERY VERY small population. Most people are not worried about being called they/them. That is crazy. As long as my kids are kids, they will identify people to how they see them, boy or girl, he/she, Miss, Mr. etc just like we always have all these years. I refuse to have them bend to this woke trend.
Silly. Ridiculous. Roll My Eyes. Woke Trend. Really inspires a feeling of inclusion and understanding for how other people feel.
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Re: They/Them
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by NervousNell
I honestly don't think anyone on this thread has said they will purposely call someone a pronoun they asked not to be called. Or ignore a request by a person to be called a certain pronoun just to be a real asshole
Or teach their kid to do that.
But everything gets spun.
Everything
Well I saw this earlier in the thread:
. It sounds extremely weird and awkward. The whole concept is silly. Even if you don’t feel like a boy or a girl , you are biologically one or the other. Feel however you like internally, but don’t expect other people to cater to it with this silliness.
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Re: They/Them
Posted by lululu
Posted by mxoxom2004
Yes, gotta love some of the people on LIF.
Kindness costs nothing but I guess that is too high a price to pay for some people.
1.2 million LGBTQ people in the US identify as non-binary and use the pronouns they/them. Perhaps to some this seems like a "very, very" small number, an example of "Woke" culture or just the diabolical work of the Liberals but perhaps, just perhaps, maybe this number is small because of some of the attitudes expressed on this thread are indicative of how non-binary people are viewed and treated in this country.
Maybe if people were actually compassionate instead of claiming to be, more people would feel SAFE expressing their feeling on their gender identity.
Can I ask what has you so bothered? 1.2 million out of 330 million actually would be considered a pretty small number. I don't recall any comments on this thread or ever that indicated people should not be compassionate to anyone. Everyone has said that they will call anyone what they want to be called. Some are saying that they are not going to have their children go around proactively asking people their preferred pronouns or worrying if they get it wrong. I don't go around asking anyone so I am certainly not going to have my children.
Did YOU read what I wrote.
Maybe if people were actually compassionate instead of claiming to be, more people would feel SAFE expressing their feeling on their gender identity.
I'm sure 1.2M is a fraction of the number of people who identify as non-binary but because of people's intolerant attitudes, they may not feel safe to express their true feelings on their gender.
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Re: They/Them
Posted by mxoxom2004
Posted by lululu
Posted by NervousNell
I honestly don't think anyone on this thread has said they will purposely call someone a pronoun they asked not to be called. Or ignore a request by a person to be called a certain pronoun just to be a real asshole
Or teach their kid to do that.
But everything gets spun.
Everything
It is seriously unREAL.
It's as if people don't want to read or are just already so on attack mode they don't see what is actually being said.
Yes, it’s super common amongst teens these days. Major social contagion. I roll my eyes whenever I hear , “ they/ them, personally. So silly.
It sounds extremely weird and awkward. The whole concept is silly. Even if you don’t feel like a boy or a girl , you are biologically one or the other. Feel however you like internally, but don’t expect other people to cater to it with this silliness.
Who you like and what you do in your bedroom should mean NOTHING to anyone else but yourself. You do you but to push it on these kids that they need to come out as one of these 70 something genders and for businesses to have to put on their forms, male, female or other is just ridiculous.
“ Whatever someone identifies with isn’t what sexual organ they were born with.”
Amazing this has worked for a LONG time and everyone was fine with it.
They / them is silly because it’s asking people to use made up words that defy material reality. I don’t like having my speech policed and I don’t like being asked to use words that I feel reflect fantasy.
My kids are as compassionate as they come. You raise compassionate kids by showing them how to love, give and embrace however that doesn't mean as as a parent have to force them to worry about how the may offend a VERY VERY small population. Most people are not worried about being called they/them. That is crazy. As long as my kids are kids, they will identify people to how they see them, boy or girl, he/she, Miss, Mr. etc just like we always have all these years. I refuse to have them bend to this woke trend.
Silly. Ridiculous. Roll My Eyes. Woke Trend. Really inspires a feeling of inclusion and understanding for how other people feel.
Facts don’t care about your feelings. For every piece of scientific literature that is pushed forth supporting gender dysmorphia there is another calling its legitimacy into doubt. And that’s OK because people should be allowed to form different opinions without getting attacked by the liberal “know-it-all” brigade.
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Re: They/Them
Posted by RomeyT
Posted by mxoxom2004
Posted by lululu
Posted by NervousNell
I honestly don't think anyone on this thread has said they will purposely call someone a pronoun they asked not to be called. Or ignore a request by a person to be called a certain pronoun just to be a real asshole
Or teach their kid to do that.
But everything gets spun.
Everything
It is seriously unREAL.
It's as if people don't want to read or are just already so on attack mode they don't see what is actually being said.
Yes, it’s super common amongst teens these days. Major social contagion. I roll my eyes whenever I hear , “ they/ them, personally. So silly.
It sounds extremely weird and awkward. The whole concept is silly. Even if you don’t feel like a boy or a girl , you are biologically one or the other. Feel however you like internally, but don’t expect other people to cater to it with this silliness.
Who you like and what you do in your bedroom should mean NOTHING to anyone else but yourself. You do you but to push it on these kids that they need to come out as one of these 70 something genders and for businesses to have to put on their forms, male, female or other is just ridiculous.
“ Whatever someone identifies with isn’t what sexual organ they were born with.”
Amazing this has worked for a LONG time and everyone was fine with it.
They / them is silly because it’s asking people to use made up words that defy material reality. I don’t like having my speech policed and I don’t like being asked to use words that I feel reflect fantasy.
My kids are as compassionate as they come. You raise compassionate kids by showing them how to love, give and embrace however that doesn't mean as as a parent have to force them to worry about how the may offend a VERY VERY small population. Most people are not worried about being called they/them. That is crazy. As long as my kids are kids, they will identify people to how they see them, boy or girl, he/she, Miss, Mr. etc just like we always have all these years. I refuse to have them bend to this woke trend.
Silly. Ridiculous. Roll My Eyes. Woke Trend. Really inspires a feeling of inclusion and understanding for how other people feel.
Facts don’t care about your feelings. For every piece of scientific literature that is pushed forth supporting gender dysmorphia there is another calling its legitimacy into doubt. And that’s OK because people should be allowed to form different opinions without getting attacked by the liberal “know-it-all” brigade.
This isn't about a "know-it-all" brigade or whatever you are spouting off about. Call people what they want to be called. It's called decency.
A name and pronouns are very important to people. It's a part of their identity. You don't get to dictate what someone calls themselves. I'm sure if you are manly looking and someone referred to you (collective) as a 'he,' you would feel embarrassed.
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Re: They/Them
Posted by RomeyT
Posted by mxoxom2004
Posted by lululu
Posted by NervousNell
I honestly don't think anyone on this thread has said they will purposely call someone a pronoun they asked not to be called. Or ignore a request by a person to be called a certain pronoun just to be a real asshole
Or teach their kid to do that.
But everything gets spun.
Everything
It is seriously unREAL.
It's as if people don't want to read or are just already so on attack mode they don't see what is actually being said.
Yes, it’s super common amongst teens these days. Major social contagion. I roll my eyes whenever I hear , “ they/ them, personally. So silly.
It sounds extremely weird and awkward. The whole concept is silly. Even if you don’t feel like a boy or a girl , you are biologically one or the other. Feel however you like internally, but don’t expect other people to cater to it with this silliness.
Who you like and what you do in your bedroom should mean NOTHING to anyone else but yourself. You do you but to push it on these kids that they need to come out as one of these 70 something genders and for businesses to have to put on their forms, male, female or other is just ridiculous.
“ Whatever someone identifies with isn’t what sexual organ they were born with.”
Amazing this has worked for a LONG time and everyone was fine with it.
They / them is silly because it’s asking people to use made up words that defy material reality. I don’t like having my speech policed and I don’t like being asked to use words that I feel reflect fantasy.
My kids are as compassionate as they come. You raise compassionate kids by showing them how to love, give and embrace however that doesn't mean as as a parent have to force them to worry about how the may offend a VERY VERY small population. Most people are not worried about being called they/them. That is crazy. As long as my kids are kids, they will identify people to how they see them, boy or girl, he/she, Miss, Mr. etc just like we always have all these years. I refuse to have them bend to this woke trend.
Silly. Ridiculous. Roll My Eyes. Woke Trend. Really inspires a feeling of inclusion and understanding for how other people feel.
Facts don’t care about your feelings. For every piece of scientific literature that is pushed forth supporting gender dysmorphia there is another calling its legitimacy into doubt. And that’s OK because people should be allowed to form different opinions without getting attacked by the liberal “know-it-all” brigade.
See, you just proved the intolerance that is rampant on this board with your liberal "know-it-all" brigade comment.
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| Posted 2/17/22 2:45 PM |
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MrsA1012
love my little girl !
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Re: They/Them
Posted by mxoxom2004
Posted by lululu
Posted by NervousNell
I honestly don't think anyone on this thread has said they will purposely call someone a pronoun they asked not to be called. Or ignore a request by a person to be called a certain pronoun just to be a real asshole
Or teach their kid to do that.
But everything gets spun.
Everything
It is seriously unREAL.
It's as if people don't want to read or are just already so on attack mode they don't see what is actually being said.
Yes, it’s super common amongst teens these days. Major social contagion. I roll my eyes whenever I hear , “ they/ them, personally. So silly.
It sounds extremely weird and awkward. The whole concept is silly. Even if you don’t feel like a boy or a girl , you are biologically one or the other. Feel however you like internally, but don’t expect other people to cater to it with this silliness.
Who you like and what you do in your bedroom should mean NOTHING to anyone else but yourself. You do you but to push it on these kids that they need to come out as one of these 70 something genders and for businesses to have to put on their forms, male, female or other is just ridiculous.
“ Whatever someone identifies with isn’t what sexual organ they were born with.”
Amazing this has worked for a LONG time and everyone was fine with it.
They / them is silly because it’s asking people to use made up words that defy material reality. I don’t like having my speech policed and I don’t like being asked to use words that I feel reflect fantasy.
My kids are as compassionate as they come. You raise compassionate kids by showing them how to love, give and embrace however that doesn't mean as as a parent have to force them to worry about how the may offend a VERY VERY small population. Most people are not worried about being called they/them. That is crazy. As long as my kids are kids, they will identify people to how they see them, boy or girl, he/she, Miss, Mr. etc just like we always have all these years. I refuse to have them bend to this woke trend.
Silly. Ridiculous. Roll My Eyes. Woke Trend. Really inspires a feeling of inclusion and understanding for how other people feel.
. I stand my comment 100 percent and I went into greater detail about why I think that, BUT I also made it quite clear that if someone asked me to use certain pronouns I would , despite my personal
thoughts. I also said that bullying or mistreating people due to gender identify is unacceptable.
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| Posted 2/17/22 5:13 PM |
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MrsWoods
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Re: They/Them
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by RomeyT
Posted by mxoxom2004
Posted by lululu
Posted by NervousNell
I honestly don't think anyone on this thread has said they will purposely call someone a pronoun they asked not to be called. Or ignore a request by a person to be called a certain pronoun just to be a real asshole
Or teach their kid to do that.
But everything gets spun.
Everything
It is seriously unREAL.
It's as if people don't want to read or are just already so on attack mode they don't see what is actually being said.
Yes, it’s super common amongst teens these days. Major social contagion. I roll my eyes whenever I hear , “ they/ them, personally. So silly.
It sounds extremely weird and awkward. The whole concept is silly. Even if you don’t feel like a boy or a girl , you are biologically one or the other. Feel however you like internally, but don’t expect other people to cater to it with this silliness.
Who you like and what you do in your bedroom should mean NOTHING to anyone else but yourself. You do you but to push it on these kids that they need to come out as one of these 70 something genders and for businesses to have to put on their forms, male, female or other is just ridiculous.
“ Whatever someone identifies with isn’t what sexual organ they were born with.”
Amazing this has worked for a LONG time and everyone was fine with it.
They / them is silly because it’s asking people to use made up words that defy material reality. I don’t like having my speech policed and I don’t like being asked to use words that I feel reflect fantasy.
My kids are as compassionate as they come. You raise compassionate kids by showing them how to love, give and embrace however that doesn't mean as as a parent have to force them to worry about how the may offend a VERY VERY small population. Most people are not worried about being called they/them. That is crazy. As long as my kids are kids, they will identify people to how they see them, boy or girl, he/she, Miss, Mr. etc just like we always have all these years. I refuse to have them bend to this woke trend.
Silly. Ridiculous. Roll My Eyes. Woke Trend. Really inspires a feeling of inclusion and understanding for how other people feel.
Facts don’t care about your feelings. For every piece of scientific literature that is pushed forth supporting gender dysmorphia there is another calling its legitimacy into doubt. And that’s OK because people should be allowed to form different opinions without getting attacked by the liberal “know-it-all” brigade.
This isn't about a "know-it-all" brigade or whatever you are spouting off about. Call people what they want to be called. It's called decency.
A name and pronouns are very important to people. It's a part of their identity. You don't get to dictate what someone calls themselves. I'm sure if you are manly looking and someone referred to you (collective) as a 'he,' you would feel embarrassed.
You also don't get to dictate whether or not someone has to call you anything. Works both ways
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