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Beth
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Re: tragic story
I don't think Heroin come in pills
that would be metadone
we had a huge problem with heroin in my HS the year after I graduated (same thing at the HS my Dad taught at- and we are not talking about schools in bad neighborhoods either- I went to Ward Melville)
kids were injecting it
I wouldn't be surprised about anything
there is a huge drug problem on LI that rarely gets spoken about
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stephaniea
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Re: tragic story
My 24 year old cousin died from a heroin overdose. Found in the backyard like an animal. Very very tragic. I have a high school age child. It scares the hell out of me.
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PrincessP
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Re: tragic story
Thats really sad
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MarisaK
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Re: tragic story
That could have been anyone's kid at any point in time. - I graduated from Plainedge 11 years ago. Christ, that girl's whole bio is my own at 18 years old !! -
It could have easily been me or one of my friends who had passed out after a long night of drinking while someone's parents were away .........Some did drugs, some did not - EVERYONE drank obscene amounts of alcohol ..........
I think it's unfair to assume girl was a heroine addict !!!
I think it's also scary that no one ever thinks the 'good' kids (ie: Honors classes, athletes, student coucil types) aren't doing the exact same drugs and alcohol as the 'problem' students .....When I was in HS, we were 10x worse !!
ETA: I'm not saying the drug problem doesn't exist, but it does and it's BAD - Especially among the middle class - But I wouldn't automatically assume this girl was a herione addict. I went to many many parties and never took any drugs -
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charon54
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Re: tragic story
She was one of our SAT students, her teacher is really upset.
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| Posted 6/23/08 12:44 PM |
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Erica
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Re: tragic story
Posted by MarisaK
I think it's unfair to assume girl was a heroine addict !!!
I think that's b/c Tricia mentioned that her brother was friends with her and she mentioned that heroine problem
So sad...I just wonder how to raise children that don't get involved in these activities? Were the parents home? that could be a HUGE liability for them?
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IluvBo
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for that family!!!
so so sad!
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| Posted 6/23/08 2:06 PM |
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sfp0701
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Re: tragic story
Posted by hbugal
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My DH was talking to a detective in our area fairly recently and was told that the drug of choice for high schoolers was heroin!!! They get addicted to their parents pain pills and then find out that heroin is a simular high and easier to get apparently (or so the detective said)...Amazing!!!!
Is this injectible heroin? Or is it a pill form?
Honestly I dont know...
Apparently they snort it.
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| Posted 6/23/08 2:21 PM |
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DeniseMarie
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sfp0701
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Re: tragic story
Posted by Erica
Posted by MarisaK
I think it's unfair to assume girl was a heroine addict !!!
I think that's b/c Tricia mentioned that her brother was friends with her and she mentioned that heroine problem
So sad...I just wonder how to raise children that don't get involved in these activities? Were the parents home? that could be a HUGE liability for them?
I didn't say she was a heroin addict. I said that was what was being used at the party that night. That's a fact. Whether she was using it or someone was using it and strangled her is yet to come out. I do KNOW that this girl did other drugs though and hung out with a crowd that was VERY HEAVY into heroin. Like I said, My brother knew her, he is from Seaford, he is a recovering addict, she dated his best friend and I met her several times. We won't know all the facts for some time and until then no one will know for sure. But the "stories" from her close friends, that got back to my brother, are OD.
If you do a serach for her name and "seaford drug", you can find articles where her friends commented and it was clear that the thoughts are going to OD. Her friends are all saying "it's no one's bussiness what the cause of death is. She made some wrong choices". Why would they say that if she simply got drunk and passed out?
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Katie111806
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Re: tragic story
That's just heartbreaking.
My friend's cousin (around the same age) died recently in Rockville Centre in a similar situation. Totally tragic.
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Ang-Rich
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Re: tragic story
Posted by headoverheels
The Ciappas said they don't know how their daughter died. On Saturday morning, they called her friends to find out where she had been. When they obtained the address, they drove to the house.
Doreen Ciappa said a woman answered the door, and took them to the rec room, which had been converted from a garage attached to the house.
There they found their daughter, who was clothed and lying facedown on the couch.
I don't understand this part of the news article...unless I guess this wasn't a typical residential home. How come the person that answered the door hadn't called the police or paramedics?
I'm being naive, right? 
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headoverheels
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Re: tragic story
Posted by Ang-Rich
Posted by headoverheels
The Ciappas said they don't know how their daughter died. On Saturday morning, they called her friends to find out where she had been. When they obtained the address, they drove to the house.
Doreen Ciappa said a woman answered the door, and took them to the rec room, which had been converted from a garage attached to the house.
There they found their daughter, who was clothed and lying facedown on the couch.
I don't understand this part of the news article...unless I guess this wasn't a typical residential home. How come the person that answered the door hadn't called the police or paramedics?
I'm being naive, right?
they didn't know she was there... the garage was converted into a rec room, and that's where the party happened.
i am sure that the woman who answered the door was just as shocked as the girl's parents when they found her.
ETA: it's a typical residential home, it's just that i think the parents don't go into that part of the home (it's for the kid/kids).
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Goobster
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Re: tragic story
Posted by headoverheels
they didn't know she was there... the garage was converted into a rec room, and that's where the party happened.
i am sure that the woman who answered the door was just as shocked as the girl's parents when they found her.
ETA: it's a typical residential home, it's just that i think the parents don't go into that part of the home (it's for the kid/kids).
I agree, and I could understand how this could happen. If you have teen kids hanging out late at night, I don't imagine you would go checking the room after all the kids leave. Likely most parents would be asleep at the time that 18 year olds would go home.
I think it's very understandable.
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Ang-Rich
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Re: tragic story
Posted by headoverheels
Posted by Ang-Rich
Posted by headoverheels
The Ciappas said they don't know how their daughter died. On Saturday morning, they called her friends to find out where she had been. When they obtained the address, they drove to the house.
Doreen Ciappa said a woman answered the door, and took them to the rec room, which had been converted from a garage attached to the house.
There they found their daughter, who was clothed and lying facedown on the couch.
I don't understand this part of the news article...unless I guess this wasn't a typical residential home. How come the person that answered the door hadn't called the police or paramedics?
I'm being naive, right?
they didn't know she was there... the garage was converted into a rec room, and that's where the party happened.
i am sure that the woman who answered the door was just as shocked as the girl's parents when they found her.
ETA: it's a typical residential home, it's just that i think the parents don't go into that part of the home (it's for the kid/kids).
Oh - gotcha...thanks! I was so caught up on that one part...and I couldn't think through it. It does make sense...totally understandable. I needed to hear that the woman was probably shocked too..it was written too matter-of-factly for me.
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MsSissy
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Re: tragic story
Posted by Goobster
Posted by headoverheels
they didn't know she was there... the garage was converted into a rec room, and that's where the party happened.
i am sure that the woman who answered the door was just as shocked as the girl's parents when they found her.
ETA: it's a typical residential home, it's just that i think the parents don't go into that part of the home (it's for the kid/kids).
I agree, and I could understand how this could happen. If you have teen kids hanging out late at night, I don't imagine you would go checking the room after all the kids leave. Likely most parents would be asleep at the time that 18 year olds would go home.
I think it's very understandable.
Unfortunately, this is where the home owners will most likely become responsible.
Under age and drinking or doing drugs in your home can be very serious.
You need to know whats going on in your home.
Is the woman who answered the door the home owner? Were they home?
Such a tragedy
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Goobster
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Re: tragic story
http://www.newsday.com/news/local/ny-liseaf0623,0,7988293.story
Here is the story on Newsday. There is a video on there, which shows the garage. It wasn't attached to the house, so you can imagine if kids are hanging out in there, parents would have no idea what is going on. It appears very far from the house in the video.
So sad and tragic.
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headoverheels
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Re: tragic story
Posted by Goobster
http://www.newsday.com/news/local/ny-liseaf0623,0,7988293.story
Here is the story on Newsday. There is a video on there, which shows the garage. It wasn't attached to the house, so you can imagine if kids are hanging out in there, parents would have no idea what is going on. It appears very far from the house in the video.
So sad and tragic.
it does appear very far from the house, but i can tell you, it is not (my parents live on this block, i grew up in this area). if it was noisy or anything, the parents would/should have heard - but it seems as if this poor girl died without anyone realizing it.
that does NOT mean i think that the owners of this house should not be held partially laible. i am pretty sure (feel free to correct me if i am wrong) that there is a law in suffolk making parents liable for their kids hosting parties where there is alcohol, i do not know if there is a similar law in nassau county. i hope there is. i cannot imagine allowing my children free reign in a building separate from my home, especially at that age. it's just asking for trouble.
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MsSissy
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Re: tragic story
Posted by Goobster
http://www.newsday.com/news/local/ny-liseaf0623,0,7988293.story
Here is the story on Newsday. There is a video on there, which shows the garage. It wasn't attached to the house, so you can imagine if kids are hanging out in there, parents would have no idea what is going on. It appears very far from the house in the video.
So sad and tragic.
Yeah, I saw that earlier.
I am not saying the homeowners are responsible. But unfortunately as a parent you really need to be aware of who is hanging out on your property and what is going on. If that makes you the "uncool" parent, so be it.
I'm sure the homeowners are devasted today. And most likely saying to themselves "if only we did this, if only we did that".
Again, I'm not even sure if the parents were home or not....
Regardless, it's so sad
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mycrayon1
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Re: tragic story
I read this earlier and it sickened me. I'm curious how the parents of the freinds didn't try to wake her or figured they'd let her sleep, and what was the cause of death?
just seems really wierd
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Goobster
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Re: tragic story
Posted by headoverheels
Posted by Goobster
http://www.newsday.com/news/local/ny-liseaf0623,0,7988293.story
Here is the story on Newsday. There is a video on there, which shows the garage. It wasn't attached to the house, so you can imagine if kids are hanging out in there, parents would have no idea what is going on. It appears very far from the house in the video.
So sad and tragic.
it does appear very far from the house, but i can tell you, it is not (my parents live on this block, i grew up in this area). if it was noisy or anything, the parents would/should have heard - but it seems as if this poor girl died without anyone realizing it.
that does NOT mean i think that the owners of this house should not be held partially laible. i am pretty sure (feel free to correct me if i am wrong) that there is a law in suffolk making parents liable for their kids hosting parties where there is alcohol, i do not know if there is a similar law in nassau county. i hope there is. i cannot imagine allowing my children free reign in a building separate from my home, especially at that age. it's just asking for trouble.
Whoever left her there, whoever was the last one to leave, holds some responsiblity. So who was that? And that would be the person to question. Why was she left there? Did they think she was sleeping, just passed out but ok? Or was it foulplay?
A lot of kids hang out in their parents' garages. My neighbor's kids used to do it, but mostly while the parents were away. Even as kids, we used to hang out in my parents' basement. I think that's a part of growing up, hanging out somewhere for the "teens", not the adults. Unfortunately, sometimes bad things can happen...it's very tragic and sad.
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so sad.. and so scary. It's hard to imagine beautiful 18 yr old girls sitting around drinking their faces off, popping pills... I'm no idiot, I know it's happening everywhere, but I never did ANYTHING like that when I was a kid. I didn't drink a thing when I was in HS!
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MsSissy
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Re: tragic story
Posted by Goobster
Whoever left her there, whoever was the last one to leave, holds some responsiblity. So who was that? And that would be the person to question. Why was she left there? Did they think she was sleeping, just passed out but ok? Or was it foulplay?
If she looked like she was sleeping, I'm sure they assumed she was.
This happened to someone I know.
She mixed oxycontin and morphine. Vomited in her sleep, but it didn't come out, it when into her lungs. She was left like this for hours, because her "friends" thought she was sleeping.
They finally checked her pulse and realized something was wrong. Took her to the hospital and left her there Called her mother and told her where she was. She survived, but lost oxygen to the brain and suffered brain damage. She was 21 yrs old at the time with a 3 yr old son.
It's terrible what's going on with drugs these days.
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Goobster
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Posted by Shorty
so sad.. and so scary. It's hard to imagine beautiful 18 yr old girls sitting around drinking their faces off, popping pills... I'm no idiot, I know it's happening everywhere, but I never did ANYTHING like that when I was a kid. I didn't drink a thing when I was in HS!
We didn't do it either. We had good clean fun. But it does happen. 
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