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MarisaK
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I didn't say she was a heroin addict. I said that was what was being used at the party that night. That's a fact. Whether she was using it or someone was using it and strangled her is yet to come out. I do KNOW that this girl did other drugs though and hung out with a crowd that was VERY HEAVY into heroin. Like I said, My brother knew her, he is from Seaford, he is a recovering addict, she dated his best friend and I met her several times. We won't know all the facts for some time and until then no one will know for sure. But the "stories" from her close friends, that got back to my brother, are OD.
If you do a serach for her name and "seaford drug", you can find articles where her friends commented and it was clear that the thoughts are going to OD. Her friends are all saying "it's no one's bussiness what the cause of death is. She made some wrong choices". Why would they say that if she simply got drunk and passed out?
I'm not doubting that you know something about the girl........I am just saying I think it's wrong to assume that b/c she hung out w/ a group of people who are heavy into drugs that SHE was also into drugs and OD'd. -
I spent every weekend at house parties with my friends, a group who did everything and anything they could get their hands on. I never did any of it. But I could have just as easily killed myself by drinking too much .........I'm just saying it's not ONLY the drugs that do it - the alcohol can be just as dangerous
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Re: tragic story
Posted by MarisaK
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I didn't say she was a heroin addict. I said that was what was being used at the party that night. That's a fact. Whether she was using it or someone was using it and strangled her is yet to come out. I do KNOW that this girl did other drugs though and hung out with a crowd that was VERY HEAVY into heroin. Like I said, My brother knew her, he is from Seaford, he is a recovering addict, she dated his best friend and I met her several times. We won't know all the facts for some time and until then no one will know for sure. But the "stories" from her close friends, that got back to my brother, are OD.
If you do a serach for her name and "seaford drug", you can find articles where her friends commented and it was clear that the thoughts are going to OD. Her friends are all saying "it's no one's bussiness what the cause of death is. She made some wrong choices". Why would they say that if she simply got drunk and passed out?
I'm not doubting that you know something about the girl........I am just saying I think it's wrong to assume that b/c she hung out w/ a group of people who are heavy into drugs that SHE was also into drugs and OD'd. -
I spent every weekend at house parties with my friends, a group who did everything and anything they could get their hands on. I never did any of it. But I could have just as easily killed myself by drinking too much .........I'm just saying it's not ONLY the drugs that do it - the alcohol can be just as dangerous
You're right alcohol is dangerous too. She did do drugs in the past. Who knows what she did that night though. That's why they have tox reports. I didn't anywhere say that she did drugs that night. I don't know. BUT she HAS done them in the past. I don't know what specifically. I never saw her, but my brother did.
Regardless, she shouldn't have been in a house drinking to that excess and the others shouldn't have been doing drugs. The parents who own that house are responsible. You need to check in on your teenage children. If they are in your house and something goes wrong due to illegal activities you are responsible. Bottom line. Teenagers don't need that privacy. Not that I was an angel. But guess what, I had a friend die. And teenagers shouldn't die when a little supervision from parents could prevent it.
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| Posted 6/23/08 4:08 PM |
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Re: tragic story
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Whoever left her there, whoever was the last one to leave, holds some responsiblity. So who was that? And that would be the person to question. Why was she left there? Did they think she was sleeping, just passed out but ok? Or was it foulplay?
If she looked like she was sleeping, I'm sure they assumed she was.
This happened to someone I know.
She mixed oxycontin and morphine. Vomited in her sleep, but it didn't come out, it when into her lungs. She was left like this for hours, because her "friends" thought she was sleeping.
They finally checked her pulse and realized something was wrong. Took her to the hospital and left her there Called her mother and told her where she was. She survived, but lost oxygen to the brain and suffered brain damage. She was 21 yrs old at the time with a 3 yr old son.
It's terrible what's going on with drugs these days.
Yes, I have heard of this. When you are that drunk, you can choke on your own vomit. I have heard of this happening. 
What a sad story.
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Re: tragic story
UPDATE:
LONG ISLAND (WABC) -- A party host is charged with evidence tampering following the death of a Long Island high school senior.
Police are awaiting the results of an autopsy, but said Monday there appears to be no sign of foul play in the death of Natalie Ciappa. The 18-year-old would have graduated this week from Plainedge High School.
Ciappa's parents found her unconscious in a Seaford home at about 11 a.m. Saturday. They'd gone looking for her when she didn't return home.
Police say 19-year-old See Woo Sung was cleaning up liquor and beer bottles rather than helping the victim's parents. They also say he failed to call 911.
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| Posted 6/23/08 4:36 PM |
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MarisaK
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Re: tragic story
Posted by sfp0701
UPDATE:
LONG ISLAND (WABC) -- A party host is charged with evidence tampering following the death of a Long Island high school senior.
Police are awaiting the results of an autopsy, but said Monday there appears to be no sign of foul play in the death of Natalie Ciappa. The 18-year-old would have graduated this week from Plainedge High School.
Ciappa's parents found her unconscious in a Seaford home at about 11 a.m. Saturday. They'd gone looking for her when she didn't return home.
Police say 19-year-old See Woo Sung was cleaning up liquor and beer bottles rather than helping the victim's parents. They also say he failed to call 911.
Sooooooooo the kid was cleaning up around the lifeless body of an 18 year old girl WHILE her parents were there ???? -
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Re: tragic story
Posted by MarisaK
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UPDATE:
LONG ISLAND (WABC) -- A party host is charged with evidence tampering following the death of a Long Island high school senior.
Police are awaiting the results of an autopsy, but said Monday there appears to be no sign of foul play in the death of Natalie Ciappa. The 18-year-old would have graduated this week from Plainedge High School.
Ciappa's parents found her unconscious in a Seaford home at about 11 a.m. Saturday. They'd gone looking for her when she didn't return home.
Police say 19-year-old See Woo Sung was cleaning up liquor and beer bottles rather than helping the victim's parents. They also say he failed to call 911.
Sooooooooo the kid was cleaning up around the lifeless body of an 18 year old girl WHILE her parents were there ???? -
Sounds like it. I think he was charged though. There was teaser that it would be on the 5 pm news on channel 7 tonight.
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| Posted 6/23/08 4:49 PM |
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MarisaK
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Re: tragic story
I don't know - the whole story doesn't sound right to me -
This girl didn't leave with her friends, she was passed out on the couch .......NONE of her friends tried to wake her up? I can't tell you HOW many people we threw into cold showers, how many nights one of stayed awake to make sure one kept breathing ..........No matter HOW drunk or high or whatever everyone else was, you NEVER left your friend behind, passed out and alone.
That's the first thing I don't get.
The second, is even if that did happen (which I think is disgusting of her friends) WTH was the kid thinking the NEXT day ??? You're not sober enough by then to figure out there's a random girl passed out on your couch ?? You don't try to wake her up? You don't PANIC when she doesn't wake up ???
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| Posted 6/23/08 4:53 PM |
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This makes me ill and scared....my little brother goes to the JHS that school district.
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| Posted 6/23/08 7:11 PM |
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Wow.. This is horrible. She even has a myspace page:
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| Posted 6/23/08 7:37 PM |
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Posted by SIBride06
Wow.. This is horrible. She even has a myspace page:
Myspace
Wow..."interesting" page...
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| Posted 6/23/08 8:12 PM |
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csorisi
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Posted by Beth1210
I don't think Heroin come in pills
that would be metadone
we had a huge problem with heroin in my HS the year after I graduated (same thing at the HS my Dad taught at- and we are not talking about schools in bad neighborhoods either- I went to Ward Melville)
kids were injecting it
I wouldn't be surprised about anything
there is a huge drug problem on LI that rarely gets spoken about
Heroin does not come in pills but oxycodone is consider street heroin and kids are taking it like candy. My husband is a pharmacist and he has spoken to ex-addicts and police officers in the area (he is a pharmacist in Seaford) and drugs are a huge problem in this area more then you would ever thing. I went to Seaford HS and of course there were drugs then.
From what my DH tells me pharmacy narcotics are a huge problem and they aren't that hard for these kids to get. Also there have been so many reports on this problem nationwide.
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DaniJude
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Re: tragic story
omg this is unbelievable
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| Posted 6/23/08 8:28 PM |
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Jackie24
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Re: tragic story
wow soooo sad
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| Posted 6/23/08 8:44 PM |
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Re: tragic story
It doesn't matter or why, it is so very sad for anyone that young to die.
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| Posted 6/23/08 8:48 PM |
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I just heard from someone that knows her. They were all doing heroin. She passed out supposedly and everyone freaked out. They put her in the recreation room on the couch and cleaned up all the evidence and left her there. And supposedly the parents were home when this all happened. And told the parents that she was back there.
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| Posted 6/23/08 9:51 PM |
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Posted by lorich
Posted by SIBride06
Wow.. This is horrible. She even has a myspace page:
Myspace
Wow..."interesting" page...
Wow, I agree.. Interesting to say the least.... You hear about what a great, smart girl she was, yet I see a totally different picture of her just by looking at her page and her pictures 
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CaseyGirl
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Bottom line is, it's a terrible shame that this girl lost her life so young. And it's nothing new that drugs are rampant, and particularly on LI. Drugs are everywhere.
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Diana1215
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Posted by chmlengr
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Posted by SIBride06
Wow.. This is horrible. She even has a myspace page:
Myspace
Wow..."interesting" page...
Wow, I agree.. Interesting to say the least.... You hear about what a great, smart girl she was, yet I see a totally different picture of her just by looking at her page and her pictures
ITA! I was not expecting what I saw at all.
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| Posted 6/23/08 10:34 PM |
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Katie111806
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Posted by MarisaK
I don't know - the whole story doesn't sound right to me -
This girl didn't leave with her friends, she was passed out on the couch .......NONE of her friends tried to wake her up? I can't tell you HOW many people we threw into cold showers, how many nights one of stayed awake to make sure one kept breathing ..........No matter HOW drunk or high or whatever everyone else was, you NEVER left your friend behind, passed out and alone.
That's the first thing I don't get.
The second, is even if that did happen (which I think is disgusting of her friends) WTH was the kid thinking the NEXT day ??? You're not sober enough by then to figure out there's a random girl passed out on your couch ?? You don't try to wake her up? You don't PANIC when she doesn't wake up ???
Unfortunately, I can see how things like this happen. When my brother was around this girl's age he was out partying with friends and obviously drank too much. He is 6'3 and built so must have been drinking like an animal. He passed out on the neighbor's lawn next to where this party was. His "friends" could not revive him at all and they left him there. No call to my parents, no checking on him, etc.  The next MORNING these poor people found an incoherent, unable to be woken up stranger teenager on their front lawn. They called an ambulance and my brother was rushed to the hospital. To make matters worse, my brother had a fake ID on him and none of his own identification so they contacted the parents of the fake ID instead of my parents. It wasn't until almost 24 hours of him being in the hospital that my parents were contacted.
Crazy stuff like this happens. Could I ever possibly leave one of my friends in that type of situation? Heck no. But a lot of people, especially teenagers, worry more about getting in trouble or looking uncool than doing what's right. They think they are invincible. I worry when I have children this age.
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Posted by Diana1215
Posted by chmlengr
Posted by lorich
Posted by SIBride06
Wow.. This is horrible. She even has a myspace page:
Myspace
Wow..."interesting" page...
Wow, I agree.. Interesting to say the least.... You hear about what a great, smart girl she was, yet I see a totally different picture of her just by looking at her page and her pictures
ITA! I was not expecting what I saw at all.
same here
It sickens me that these kids are wasting their lives.
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Goobster
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Posted by stayandjohn
Posted by Diana1215
Posted by chmlengr
Posted by lorich
Posted by SIBride06
Wow.. This is horrible. She even has a myspace page:
Myspace
Wow..."interesting" page...
Wow, I agree.. Interesting to say the least.... You hear about what a great, smart girl she was, yet I see a totally different picture of her just by looking at her page and her pictures
ITA! I was not expecting what I saw at all.
same here
It sickens me that these kids are wasting their lives.
Way too much partying from the pics, it's a shame and very sad....and can I ask what is a chaser cap? That's how ignorant I am.
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I teach in Seaford but have been out on maternity leave since Jan 07.
Well, before seeing the story, I decided to pay a visit to the school (I'm returning to work in Sept) to see my chairperson. I ran into a co-worker who told me the story in the hall. Wow, how truly sad.
I am heartborken for the parents of this girl but I can't say I'm shocked. I've heard of so many very close calls in the 11 years I've taught in that district. It was always this time of the year "prom/graduation" that I would hold my breath and lose sleep praying one of my students or their friends would not be on the cover of Newsday the next day 
I "know" of the host of the party. Recently he had a falling out with another group of Seaford kids. Had it not been for the falling out, they could be involved as well... all of them partake in a partying life.
These parents (meant in general terms... ALL parents of teenagers) are so far into their denial and/or have their own addictions.
What a tradegy We are failing as a society if our young people are so reckless with their lives.
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These parents are so far into their denial and/or have their own addictions.
ITA!!!
I'm sorry, but it's not only "kids these days...."... it's also their parents! They care so much about image... they want their kids to be the "cool kids".... they try to live vicariously through them, and it's not only sad and pathetic, its detrimental as well.
Last year i was in abercrombie. I'm looking at clothes on a table, this LITTLE girl (*maybe* 14 or 15 yrs old) is talking back to her mother- i wanted to slap her across the face she was such a snotty little brat  anyway, the mom completely ignores the b!tchyness, continues talking to her own friend (who, at 45, looks like shes dressed to dance on Whitesnakes car) and then holds up a shirt to Snotty teenage daughter girl saying "OMG honey, this would look SO cute on you".
There was more material in my dental floss than in this shirt.
I don't exempt the kids from responsibility, but they aren't exaclty being raised by the best of the best, either. 
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| Posted 6/23/08 11:14 PM |
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Goobster
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Posted by neenie
Posted by Tah-wee-ZAH
These parents are so far into their denial and/or have their own addictions.
ITA!!!
I'm sorry, but it's not only "kids these days...."... it's also their parents! They care so much about image... they want their kids to be the "cool kids".... they try to live vicariously through them, and it's not only sad and pathetic, its detrimental as well.
Last year i was in abercrombie. I'm looking at clothes on a table, this LITTLE girl (*maybe* 14 or 15 yrs old) is talking back to her mother- i wanted to slap her across the face she was such a snotty little brat anyway, the mom completely ignores the b!tchyness, continues talking to her own friend (who, at 45, looks like shes dressed to dance on Whitesnakes car) and then holds up a shirt to Snotty teenage daughter girl saying "OMG honey, this would look SO cute on you".
There was more material in my dental floss than in this shirt.
I don't exempt the kids from responsibility, but they aren't exaclty being raised by the best of the best, either.
BINGo. I agree.
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