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LittleDiva
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Venues in NY can operate at 100% capacity..
If all attendees are vaccinated.
Remember when everyone thought this wouldn’t happen? Here we are.
It’s appalling that those of us who are not ready to get this experimental vaccine are being ‘punished’.
I’m reading through the VAERS info frequently. I won’t feel comfortable until I have a solid 2-3 years of data to look at. My children.....probably longer.
I’m happy that those who WANT the vaccine can easily get it now. But I’m disgusted that those who don’t want it are slowly being forced
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Re: Venues in NY can operate at 100% capacity..
But, but, but...
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| Posted 5/26/21 12:00 AM |
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RainyDay
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Venues in NY can operate at 100% capacity..
Why is this a bad thing?
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| Posted 5/26/21 1:53 AM |
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LittleDiva
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Re: Venues in NY can operate at 100% capacity..
Posted by RainyDay
Why is this a bad thing?
It’s a crappy situation to put a business in.
It’s not fair to those who aren’t ready to get the vaccine or can’t get the vaccine.
It makes zero sense.
No other state is doing this or having ‘surges’ from opening 100% with no restrictions.
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| Posted 5/26/21 2:23 AM |
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Re: Venues in NY can operate at 100% capacity..
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by RainyDay
Why is this a bad thing?
It’s a crappy situation to put a business in.
It’s not fair to those who aren’t ready to get the vaccine or can’t get the vaccine.
It makes zero sense.
No other state is doing this or having ‘surges’ from opening 100% with no restrictions.
Exactly. People don’t realize that many can not get the vaccine and it is just not a choice. Why do they have to lose out?
Correct other states are not doing this. Coumo is truly destroying this state for his own sick control. He’s a bully.
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| Posted 5/26/21 2:44 AM |
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3girls1dog
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Venues in NY can operate at 100% capacity..
I agree. I know for many people the vaccine is "safe" But there are issues out there with the vaccine. A 39 year old British model just died from a massive stroke 2 days after receiving the vaccine. Vaccines can do harm we just don't get that information from the news. Not all bodies are created equal and some react differently to drugs, food ect... so to say that the vaccine is safe is not entirely true. For those that choose to wait should not be punished for their choice.
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| Posted 5/26/21 11:51 AM |
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Posted by 3girls1dog
I agree. I know for many people the vaccine is "safe" But there are issues out there with the vaccine. A 39 year old British model just died from a massive stroke 2 days after receiving the vaccine. Vaccines can do harm we just don't get that information from the news. Not all bodies are created equal and some react differently to drugs, food ect... so to say that the vaccine is safe is not entirely true. For those that choose to wait should not be punished for their choice.
The 2nd person ever to get the Covid shot has died at 81 of a stroke. Now I don’t know if this is related but I have heard recently of younger people having strokes after the vaccine.
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| Posted 5/26/21 11:56 AM |
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klingklang77
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Re: Venues in NY can operate at 100% capacity..
Posted by RainyDay
Why is this a bad thing?
I agree. It’s the beginning stages of getting this under control. It’s a pandemic.
There is room for those that can’t or won’t get vaccinated. They need to figure out the herd immunity. Based on other data they are thinking 50-60%, but they are not completely sure. The US is at 50%, I believe.
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| Posted 5/26/21 12:15 PM |
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Diane
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Re: Venues in NY can operate at 100% capacity..
The Bordy Barn out east wont let anyone in unless you are vaccinated?
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| Posted 5/26/21 12:34 PM |
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klingklang77
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Re: Venues in NY can operate at 100% capacity..
Are people really that concerned with the Boardy Barn?? 
I think there may be other things to worry about.
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Re: Venues in NY can operate at 100% capacity..
Posted by klingklang77
Are people really that concerned with the Boardy Barn??
I think there may be other things to worry about.
It's just ironic that a place of that nature is requiring it.
I just read he offering a college tuition raffle incentive for those 12-17 getting the vaccine.
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Re: Venues in NY can operate at 100% capacity..
Posted by klingklang77
Are people really that concerned with the Boardy Barn??
I think there may be other things to worry about.
Right??? LOL A bunch of middle aged moms sure are stressing a great deal about not being able to hit up the Boardy Barn.
BTW...........correlation doesn't amount to causation. Just because a person stroked out around the time they had the vaccine doesn't mean the vaccine caused it, they could have stroked out regardless. Could have been nothing more than unfortunate timing. Unless the sample size of people who have had a stroke following a vaccine dose becomes statistically significant (which isn't the case after MILLIONS of administered doses) then it really isn't cause for concern.
Again, EVERY medicine carries risk, some fatal, but usually those cases are the extreme outliers and not the norm. We're coming up on almost a year of the first test groups to have had the vaccine and so far, so good. It's silly to harp on the negligible few cases of an extreme reaction while completely ignoring the MILLIONS of people who are doing just fine after having the vaccine.
Lastly, everyone in life has a choice but with that comes consequence. You have a right to not get the vaccine but the you can't continually complain about all of the things you can't do because of that choice. Sorry but you don't get to have your cake and eat it too. We're trying to end a pandemic that crippled the ENTIRE globe, if you have to be inconvenienced for a bit until this is behind us then so be it. Don't like it? Get vaccinated.
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| Posted 5/26/21 1:18 PM |
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klingklang77
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Re: Venues in NY can operate at 100% capacity..
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by klingklang77
Are people really that concerned with the Boardy Barn??
I think there may be other things to worry about.
Right??? LOL A bunch of middle aged moms sure are stressing a great deal about not being able to hit up the Boardy Barn.
I was always a CPI girl myself and never went to the Boardy Barn, so maybe it’s lost on me.
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| Posted 5/26/21 1:26 PM |
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LittleDiva
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Venues in NY can operate at 100% capacity..
It’s not just the boards barn. This option is available to any venue in NY.
How is it ok to do this when the vaccine doesn’t have full FDA approval?
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| Posted 5/26/21 2:40 PM |
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Hofstra26
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Re: Venues in NY can operate at 100% capacity..
Posted by LittleDiva
It’s not just the boards barn. This option is available to any venue in NY.
How is it ok to do this when the vaccine doesn’t have full FDA approval?
You know the FDA approval is a foregone conclusion, right? It's just paperwork at this point. In the meantime, everyone's singular goal is ending this pandemic and squashing COVID as best we can.
Honest question, does something change for you once it's approved because you mention the FDA approval a lot. Will you then get vaccinated? I'm just wondering if it's really about the FDA approval or if it's more that you're just upset that you're being shut out of things because you're not vaccinated.
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Re: Venues in NY can operate at 100% capacity..
Posted by Hofstra26
Lastly, everyone in life has a choice but with that comes consequence. You have a right to not get the vaccine but the you can't continually complain about all of the things you can't do because of that choice. Sorry but you don't get to have your cake and eat it too. We're trying to end a pandemic that crippled the ENTIRE globe, if you have to be inconvenienced for a bit until this is behind us then so be it. Don't like it? Get vaccinated.
Exactly!!!!!!
I'm so tired of the complaining and downplaying of the seriousness of this. Very selfish.
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| Posted 5/26/21 2:51 PM |
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klingklang77
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Re: Venues in NY can operate at 100% capacity..
Posted by LittleDiva
It’s not just the boards barn. This option is available to any venue in NY.
How is it ok to do this when the vaccine doesn’t have full FDA approval?
Businesses can do this.
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Posted by ali120206
Posted by klingklang77
Are people really that concerned with the Boardy Barn??
I think there may be other things to worry about.
It's just ironic that a place of that nature is requiring it.
I just read he offering a college tuition raffle incentive for those 12-17 getting the vaccine.
Yup it is disgusting how low they are stooping to have people take this vaccine. He truly wants full control of everyone.
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Diane
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Re: Venues in NY can operate at 100% capacity..
Posted by klingklang77
Are people really that concerned with the Boardy Barn??
I think there may be other things to worry about.
No, I am not concerned at all, just posted it. I have never been there. My DH has growing up, and the stories he told me. I would be afraid of catching something in there
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LittleDiva
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Re: Venues in NY can operate at 100% capacity..
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by LittleDiva
It’s not just the boards barn. This option is available to any venue in NY.
How is it ok to do this when the vaccine doesn’t have full FDA approval?
You know the FDA approval is a foregone conclusion, right? It's just paperwork at this point. In the meantime, everyone's singular goal is ending this pandemic and squashing COVID as best we can.
Honest question, does something change for you once it's approved because you mention the FDA approval a lot. Will you then get vaccinated? I'm just wondering if it's really about the FDA approval or if it's more that you're just upset that you're being shut out of things because you're not vaccinated.
I will not take something that has “experimental” in front of it.
Ultimately, I would like 2-3 years of data until I consider it. I would like more for my children.
And yes, I’m upset that there is potential that I will not be able to do things. This decision isn’t based off science. I mentioned in another post that cuomo is just making it up as he goes....suddenly everyone’s excelsior pass is valid for a year? We still don’t know if the vaccine is effective for a year. No one is being tested for their antibodies. Also, natural antibodies don’t count....which is ridiculous. All along we have been told to follow the science....but it’s only when it works in their favor. No other state is doing this.
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Posted by klingklang77
Are people really that concerned with the Boardy Barn??
I think there may be other things to worry about.
I think it is true overall idea of places, even though they have the right, not allowing everyone in as many enjoy to go there.
I have never been but I do go to other places and while they would have the right to deny, I would be sad I couldn’t spend my summer there.
We all are not dead and do enjoy still going to places to drink and dance :)
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Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by klingklang77
Are people really that concerned with the Boardy Barn??
I think there may be other things to worry about.
Right??? LOL A bunch of middle aged moms sure are stressing a great deal about not being able to hit up the Boardy Barn.
BTW...........correlation doesn't amount to causation. Just because a person stroked out around the time they had the vaccine doesn't mean the vaccine caused it, they could have stroked out regardless. Could have been nothing more than unfortunate timing. Unless the sample size of people who have had a stroke following a vaccine dose becomes statistically significant (which isn't the case after MILLIONS of administered doses) then it really isn't cause for concern.
Again, EVERY medicine carries risk, some fatal, but usually those cases are the extreme outliers and not the norm. We're coming up on almost a year of the first test groups to have had the vaccine and so far, so good. It's silly to harp on the negligible few cases of an extreme reaction while completely ignoring the MILLIONS of people who are doing just fine after having the vaccine.
Lastly, everyone in life has a choice but with that comes consequence. You have a right to not get the vaccine but the you can't continually complain about all of the things you can't do because of that choice. Sorry but you don't get to have your cake and eat it too. We're trying to end a pandemic that crippled the ENTIRE globe, if you have to be inconvenienced for a bit until this is behind us then so be it. Don't like it? Get vaccinated.
Ahh they do have over 40 days so yes some still enjoy to go. I have never been and the price they charged to get in was crazy. Guess they figured older people could afford the higher charge lol
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LittleDiva
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Re: Venues in NY can operate at 100% capacity..
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Posted by Hofstra26
Lastly, everyone in life has a choice but with that comes consequence. You have a right to not get the vaccine but the you can't continually complain about all of the things you can't do because of that choice. Sorry but you don't get to have your cake and eat it too. We're trying to end a pandemic that crippled the ENTIRE globe, if you have to be inconvenienced for a bit until this is behind us then so be it. Don't like it? Get vaccinated.
Exactly!!!!!!
I'm so tired of the complaining and downplaying of the seriousness of this. Very selfish.
Here we go getting called selfish again
I’m not going back and forth anymore. I’m officially leaving these boards.
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Re: Venues in NY can operate at 100% capacity..
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by beachbabe
Posted by Hofstra26
Lastly, everyone in life has a choice but with that comes consequence. You have a right to not get the vaccine but the you can't continually complain about all of the things you can't do because of that choice. Sorry but you don't get to have your cake and eat it too. We're trying to end a pandemic that crippled the ENTIRE globe, if you have to be inconvenienced for a bit until this is behind us then so be it. Don't like it? Get vaccinated.
Exactly!!!!!!
I'm so tired of the complaining and downplaying of the seriousness of this. Very selfish.
Here we go getting called selfish again
I’m not going back and forth anymore. I’m officially leaving these boards.
Don’t go because of people like this. They have nothing else to say so that is their backup for everything that they don’t agree on.
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Hofstra26
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Re: Venues in NY can operate at 100% capacity..
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by LittleDiva
It’s not just the boards barn. This option is available to any venue in NY.
How is it ok to do this when the vaccine doesn’t have full FDA approval?
You know the FDA approval is a foregone conclusion, right? It's just paperwork at this point. In the meantime, everyone's singular goal is ending this pandemic and squashing COVID as best we can.
Honest question, does something change for you once it's approved because you mention the FDA approval a lot. Will you then get vaccinated? I'm just wondering if it's really about the FDA approval or if it's more that you're just upset that you're being shut out of things because you're not vaccinated.
I will not take something that has “experimental” in front of it.
Ultimately, I would like 2-3 years of data until I consider it. I would like more for my children.
And yes, I’m upset that there is potential that I will not be able to do things. This decision isn’t based off science. I mentioned in another post that cuomo is just making it up as he goes....suddenly everyone’s excelsior pass is valid for a year? We still don’t know if the vaccine is effective for a year. No one is being tested for their antibodies. Also, natural antibodies don’t count....which is ridiculous. All along we have been told to follow the science....but it’s only when it works in their favor. No other state is doing this.
Offering incentives to encourage people to be vaccinated is really not a big deal. It doesn't take away YOUR choice but if a few extra people end up vaccinated then all the better for society as a WHOLE. All of this is about science and ending a global pandemic, it's bizarre to me that anyone would argue otherwise. Our government is charged with protecting the public interest, they haven't been perfect but the overriding goal has always been to get this under control and keep us safe.
The vaccine while technically labeled "experimental" is not made up of components we don't understand. Furthermore, scientists and doctors have been studying coronaviruses for years so it's not like the vaccine came completely out of left field. Again, the vaccine may have risks (maybe) but so does contracting COVID no matter how healthy you think you are. It's simply a matter of what risk you want to take.
Lastly, it's almost been a year since the test groups have been vaccinated and as of now, it seems as though they are still protected. I'm not sure why the length of time is so concerning for you, even if the vaccine lasts just a year and you need another shot like the flu shot, so what? That's still a year of protection from severe COVID symptoms should you get sick and that's way better than nothing.
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