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Daisy32
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Re: Verizon Strike
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Their actions on the picket line are making them look trashy, not the fact that they're on the picket line. And only the ones that are doing these things so if you're husband isn't the one doing them then why are you getting so offended?
There are 40,000 people out of work right now because of the Verizon strike.... and I am one of them. So nice of you to point out that out of 40,000 a few of them chose to act like "trash". I'm sure there are a few bad seeds in your occupation as well.....but *gasp* let me NOT make THAT assumption.
I am going without the paycheck that I need to survive. My family is covered under my health benefits which will be cancelled as of May 1st if we are still on strike. I am fighting to keep MY job here in MY country, to keep my pension that I need for retirement, to keep my health benefits for myself, my child and my husband. I wake up every morning with my heart racing for fear of the unknown. I can assure you that we are hard-working middle-class people just trying to survive. Thank you so much for your compassion with pointing out that some of the strikers act like "trash". The vast majority of us are out there every single day walking peacefully with our picket signs....and that's a fact.
To all of those that support us, we truly truly THANK YOU.
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Re: Verizon Strike
Posted by Daisy32
Posted by cds58019]
Their actions on the picket line are making them look trashy, not the fact that they're on the picket line. And only the ones that are doing these things so if you're husband isn't the one doing them then why are you getting so offended?
There are 40,000 people out of work right now because of the Verizon strike.... and I am one of them. So nice of you to point out that out of 40,000 a few of them chose to act like "trash". I'm sure there are a few bad seeds in your occupation as well.....but *gasp* let me NOT make THAT assumption.
I am going without the paycheck that I need to survive. My family is covered under my health benefits which will be cancelled as of May 1st if we are still on strike. I am fighting to keep MY job here in MY country, to keep my pension that I need for retirement, to keep my health benefits for myself, my child and my husband. I wake up every morning with my heart racing for fear of the unknown. I can assure you that we are hard-working middle-class people just trying to survive. Thank you so much for your compassion with pointing out that some of the strikers act like "trash". The vast majority of us are out there every single day walking peacefully with our picket signs....and that's a fact.
To all of those that support us, we truly truly THANK YOU.
Thank you! We are right there with you.
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Daisy32
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Re: Verizon Strike
Posted by Momof3boys
Posted by Daisy32
Posted by cds58019]
Their actions on the picket line are making them look trashy, not the fact that they're on the picket line. And only the ones that are doing these things so if you're husband isn't the one doing them then why are you getting so offended?
There are 40,000 people out of work right now because of the Verizon strike.... and I am one of them. So nice of you to point out that out of 40,000 a few of them chose to act like "trash". I'm sure there are a few bad seeds in your occupation as well.....but *gasp* let me NOT make THAT assumption.
I am going without the paycheck that I need to survive. My family is covered under my health benefits which will be cancelled as of May 1st if we are still on strike. I am fighting to keep MY job here in MY country, to keep my pension that I need for retirement, to keep my health benefits for myself, my child and my husband. I wake up every morning with my heart racing for fear of the unknown. I can assure you that we are hard-working middle-class people just trying to survive. Thank you so much for your compassion with pointing out that some of the strikers act like "trash". The vast majority of us are out there every single day walking peacefully with our picket signs....and that's a fact.
To all of those that support us, we truly truly THANK YOU.
Thank you! We are right there with you.
I greatly appreciate that....thank you xo
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Re: Verizon Strike
Posted by Daisy32
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Their actions on the picket line are making them look trashy, not the fact that they're on the picket line. And only the ones that are doing these things so if you're husband isn't the one doing them then why are you getting so offended?
There are 40,000 people out of work right now because of the Verizon strike.... and I am one of them. So nice of you to point out that out of 40,000 a few of them chose to act like "trash". I'm sure there are a few bad seeds in your occupation as well.....but *gasp* let me NOT make THAT assumption.
I am going without the paycheck that I need to survive. My family is covered under my health benefits which will be cancelled as of May 1st if we are still on strike. I am fighting to keep MY job here in MY country, to keep my pension that I need for retirement, to keep my health benefits for myself, my child and my husband. I wake up every morning with my heart racing for fear of the unknown. I can assure you that we are hard-working middle-class people just trying to survive. Thank you so much for your compassion with pointing out that some of the strikers act like "trash". The vast majority of us are out there every single day walking peacefully with our picket signs....and that's a fact.
To all of those that support us, we truly truly THANK YOU.
I wish you all the best. When you feel the rug being pulled from our under your feet by greed and ********, and your home, your kids, your health, everything is at stake - I would imagine you're pissed off and scared. If that means a sign with a curse word, so be it. I'm not in your shoes, but I feel for you immensely. And it could happen to many industries and companies. And when you're so close to the edge due to this nonsense and you know there are people who don't believe in social systems to help you get back on your feet or free health care or anything - things you would need should you lose the job that allows you to get by - I would imagine you're rightfully pissed off and fed up. I'm sorry. I hope things get better for you and all the workers.
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Daisy32
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Re: Verizon Strike
Posted by EatingMyVeggies
Posted by Daisy32
Posted by cds58019]
Their actions on the picket line are making them look trashy, not the fact that they're on the picket line. And only the ones that are doing these things so if you're husband isn't the one doing them then why are you getting so offended?
There are 40,000 people out of work right now because of the Verizon strike.... and I am one of them. So nice of you to point out that out of 40,000 a few of them chose to act like "trash". I'm sure there are a few bad seeds in your occupation as well.....but *gasp* let me NOT make THAT assumption.
I am going without the paycheck that I need to survive. My family is covered under my health benefits which will be cancelled as of May 1st if we are still on strike. I am fighting to keep MY job here in MY country, to keep my pension that I need for retirement, to keep my health benefits for myself, my child and my husband. I wake up every morning with my heart racing for fear of the unknown. I can assure you that we are hard-working middle-class people just trying to survive. Thank you so much for your compassion with pointing out that some of the strikers act like "trash". The vast majority of us are out there every single day walking peacefully with our picket signs....and that's a fact.
To all of those that support us, we truly truly THANK YOU.
I wish you all the best. When you feel the rug being pulled from our under your feet by greed and ********, and your home, your kids, your health, everything is at stake - I would imagine you're pissed off and scared. If that means a sign with a curse word, so be it. I'm not in your shoes, but I feel for you immensely. And it could happen to many industries and companies. And when you're so close to the edge due to this nonsense and you know there are people who don't believe in social systems to help you get back on your feet or free health care or anything - things you would need should you lose the job that allows you to get by - I would imagine you're rightfully pissed off and fed up. I'm sorry. I hope things get better for you and all the workers.
That's exactly how I feel...like the rug was pulled from under me....and it's a terrible, anxiety filled state to be in non-stop 
But thank you for your support. Means a lot xo
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JennP
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Re: Verizon Strike
Posted by Jugglemom
Posted by MrsProfessor
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Posted by mosh913
Of course not! Even though they make billions in profit every year, pay minimal taxes but yet they don't want to compensate their workers. Meanwhile this isn't even about wages. It's about job security, and being able to ship workers 100 miles from where they live. My husband works for Verizon, and we're pregnant with our 3rd baby. Being worried is an understatement. Not only are we going to be missing his income but my income with be substantially less because picking up my health insurance costs more. This is really a fight for the middle class and for anyone who thinks its not, is out of touch with reality. And to the poster who said these people are lacking class, have some empathy!! Put yourself in these workers shoes. I know for a fact my husband has a TON of class (wouldn't have married him if he didn't). I don't know what you or your SO does for a living but I truly hope that statement isn't you just masking your opinion of these jobs. Kinda sounds like you think you're better. To all the other families, we're in this together and I'm praying it can be settled quickly. Is it just me or does it seem like we have more public support than the strike in 2011?
I think (or hope) that people are slowly starting to see the reality of what these obscene CEO salaries and tax dodges are doing.
Found this about the Verizon CEO:
As Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at VERIZON COMMUNICATIONS INC, Lowell C. McAdam made $18,260,568 in total compensation. Of this total $1,661,538 was received as a salary, $4,000,000 was received as a bonus, $0 was received in stock options, $12,000,065 was awarded as stock and $598,965 came from other types of compensation. This information is according to proxy statements filed for the 2015 fiscal year.
I think these statements are so misleading. That majority of his compensation was likely is RSUs. Most upper management at large corporations receive their compensation in that form. Most of my DHs salary is the same. They are awarded a certain amount of shares and if the stock does well their shares value increases and the payout is big, however, if the stock tanks then so does their comp. it is very risky and upper management carries that risk. It is supposed to incentivize them to make the company profitable - "skin in the game" if you will. I don't understand why so much vitriol is aimed at CEOs and their salaries, when CEOs are actually shouldering the burdens of large companies with thousands of employees. Meanwhile, professional athletes are paid a ridiculous amount for playing a game and no one bats an eyelash.
The above came from Verizon's proxy statments so I don't see what is misleading about this. Even if much of it is stock, his salary and bonus alone were over $5 million. And this has nothing to do with professional athletes- while I agree that their salaries are over the top, the work they do is not anything like that of a CEO's. They're not running businesses and employing large numbers of people.
That is exactly my point. CEOs are responsible for companies employing thousands of people. Baseball players are responsible for? I think I the CEO salary is much harder earned especially considering what it takes to lead a multinational company. I think it is is fashionable for politicians to vilify CEO's but they don't vilify other high earners like athletes and actors meanwhile those professions don't contribute as much to the economy. I don't think $5 million is an unreasonable or outrageousness salary for a CEO. If you are responsible for the growth and profitability of a company you should get a portion of that. I think it is an irrelevant comparison to compare the highest earner of a company to the lowest. Obviously not all jobs and professions are created equally. The comparisons between the blue collar workers of a company and upper management are like comparing apples to oranges.
I don't see that the quoted poster - or anyone - saying that all compensation should be equal.
When people complain about corporate greed, it's about situations when executives take these types of bonuses WHILE cutting jobs and benefits for their workers.
That is the part that is morally wrong and arguably not best for the company, either, in the long term.
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JennP
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Re: Verizon Strike
Posted by EatingMyVeggies
Posted by Daisy32
Posted by cds58019]
Their actions on the picket line are making them look trashy, not the fact that they're on the picket line. And only the ones that are doing these things so if you're husband isn't the one doing them then why are you getting so offended?
There are 40,000 people out of work right now because of the Verizon strike.... and I am one of them. So nice of you to point out that out of 40,000 a few of them chose to act like "trash". I'm sure there are a few bad seeds in your occupation as well.....but *gasp* let me NOT make THAT assumption.
I am going without the paycheck that I need to survive. My family is covered under my health benefits which will be cancelled as of May 1st if we are still on strike. I am fighting to keep MY job here in MY country, to keep my pension that I need for retirement, to keep my health benefits for myself, my child and my husband. I wake up every morning with my heart racing for fear of the unknown. I can assure you that we are hard-working middle-class people just trying to survive. Thank you so much for your compassion with pointing out that some of the strikers act like "trash". The vast majority of us are out there every single day walking peacefully with our picket signs....and that's a fact.
To all of those that support us, we truly truly THANK YOU.
I wish you all the best. When you feel the rug being pulled from our under your feet by greed and ********, and your home, your kids, your health, everything is at stake - I would imagine you're pissed off and scared. If that means a sign with a curse word, so be it. I'm not in your shoes, but I feel for you immensely. And it could happen to many industries and companies. And when you're so close to the edge due to this nonsense and you know there are people who don't believe in social systems to help you get back on your feet or free health care or anything - things you would need should you lose the job that allows you to get by - I would imagine you're rightfully pissed off and fed up. I'm sorry. I hope things get better for you and all the workers.
ITA
There are certain behaviors I can't condone, but "FCUK [Company name]" is something that probably millions of people in this country have reason to say about their company.
We need more people speaking out!
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Re: Verizon Strike
We are in the same boat. Scared is an understatement. My husband is not and will never be one of those that speak out or bother people. It's just not in his nature. He has seen it first hand and says it will definitely get worse the longer the strike goes on and the more desperate people get. Personally, I will never care about crying for the CEO and his multimillion dollar paycheck. Poor him, he leads a large company with thousands of workers. Treat the workers that HELP your company be the billion dollar company it is and help you get that salary with some respect and compassion. And no, taking away jobs, taking people away from their families without choice, changing pensions, health benefits and so on is not the way to do it. In reference to the "scabs"....at least with my husbands garage, their boss is their friend. 95% of the managers hate this as much as the union workers. The workers know they are just doing their job and what they are told to do. Verizon hasn't hired in so long and these people have been together long time and they are like family. If workers are bothering them that is just wrong. The "scabs" from other states that have come here to work a job that they KNOW was taken away from someone else with a family, yes, screw them!! Let's all just pray that this ends quickly and peacefully and remember this will affect ALL working class families against big business.
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Millie3
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Re: Verizon Strike
interesting read
This is a good explanation as to why VZ doesn't want to budge. Basically times are changing and that side of the business is not very profitable. The workers are very costly for the company on a shrinking side of the biz.
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Daisy32
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Re: Verizon Strike
Posted by Millie3
interesting read
This is a good explanation as to why VZ doesn't want to budge. Basically times are changing and that side of the business is not very profitable. The workers are very costly for the company on a shrinking side of the biz.
POTS and landlines are a dying breed I agree....but Fios and Internet remain to be very profitable for Verizon.
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Millie3
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Re: Verizon Strike
Posted by Daisy32
Posted by Millie3
interesting read
This is a good explanation as to why VZ doesn't want to budge. Basically times are changing and that side of the business is not very profitable. The workers are very costly for the company on a shrinking side of the biz.
POTS and landlines are a dying breed I agree....but Fios and Internet remain to be very profitable for Verizon.
Right, but VZ's competitors have much cheaper labor. The article is basically saying VZ won't be able to offer the same rates to customers as competition is only growing stronger. They can no longer support all of the Benefits they offer, since their competition offers none of it.
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Re: Verizon Strike
Posted by limomof2
We are in the same boat. Scared is an understatement. My husband is not and will never be one of those that speak out or bother people. It's just not in his nature. He has seen it first hand and says it will definitely get worse the longer the strike goes on and the more desperate people get. Personally, I will never care about crying for the CEO and his multimillion dollar paycheck. Poor him, he leads a large company with thousands of workers. Treat the workers that HELP your company be the billion dollar company it is and help you get that salary with some respect and compassion. And no, taking away jobs, taking people away from their families without choice, changing pensions, health benefits and so on is not the way to do it. In reference to the "scabs"....at least with my husbands garage, their boss is their friend. 95% of the managers hate this as much as the union workers. The workers know they are just doing their job and what they are told to do. Verizon hasn't hired in so long and these people have been together long time and they are like family. If workers are bothering them that is just wrong. The "scabs" from other states that have come here to work a job that they KNOW was taken away from someone else with a family, yes, screw them!! Let's all just pray that this ends quickly and peacefully and remember this will affect ALL working class families against big business.
I really like the way you explained the "normal" working relationships; that has always been our experience as well. I think that's why we were so taken aback in 2011 when things got ugly... (which is why I am afraid now). I really hope that logical, reasonable thinking can prevail in talks (if there even are any happening?) and that the right solution surfaces very quickly. There are too many families in bad situations right now.
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Re: Verizon Strike
Posted by JennP
Posted by Jugglemom
Posted by MrsProfessor
Posted by Jugglemom
Posted by MrsProfessor
Posted by mosh913
Of course not! Even though they make billions in profit every year, pay minimal taxes but yet they don't want to compensate their workers. Meanwhile this isn't even about wages. It's about job security, and being able to ship workers 100 miles from where they live. My husband works for Verizon, and we're pregnant with our 3rd baby. Being worried is an understatement. Not only are we going to be missing his income but my income with be substantially less because picking up my health insurance costs more. This is really a fight for the middle class and for anyone who thinks its not, is out of touch with reality. And to the poster who said these people are lacking class, have some empathy!! Put yourself in these workers shoes. I know for a fact my husband has a TON of class (wouldn't have married him if he didn't). I don't know what you or your SO does for a living but I truly hope that statement isn't you just masking your opinion of these jobs. Kinda sounds like you think you're better. To all the other families, we're in this together and I'm praying it can be settled quickly. Is it just me or does it seem like we have more public support than the strike in 2011?
I think (or hope) that people are slowly starting to see the reality of what these obscene CEO salaries and tax dodges are doing.
Found this about the Verizon CEO:
As Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at VERIZON COMMUNICATIONS INC, Lowell C. McAdam made $18,260,568 in total compensation. Of this total $1,661,538 was received as a salary, $4,000,000 was received as a bonus, $0 was received in stock options, $12,000,065 was awarded as stock and $598,965 came from other types of compensation. This information is according to proxy statements filed for the 2015 fiscal year.
I think these statements are so misleading. That majority of his compensation was likely is RSUs. Most upper management at large corporations receive their compensation in that form. Most of my DHs salary is the same. They are awarded a certain amount of shares and if the stock does well their shares value increases and the payout is big, however, if the stock tanks then so does their comp. it is very risky and upper management carries that risk. It is supposed to incentivize them to make the company profitable - "skin in the game" if you will. I don't understand why so much vitriol is aimed at CEOs and their salaries, when CEOs are actually shouldering the burdens of large companies with thousands of employees. Meanwhile, professional athletes are paid a ridiculous amount for playing a game and no one bats an eyelash.
The above came from Verizon's proxy statments so I don't see what is misleading about this. Even if much of it is stock, his salary and bonus alone were over $5 million. And this has nothing to do with professional athletes- while I agree that their salaries are over the top, the work they do is not anything like that of a CEO's. They're not running businesses and employing large numbers of people.
That is exactly my point. CEOs are responsible for companies employing thousands of people. Baseball players are responsible for? I think I the CEO salary is much harder earned especially considering what it takes to lead a multinational company. I think it is is fashionable for politicians to vilify CEO's but they don't vilify other high earners like athletes and actors meanwhile those professions don't contribute as much to the economy. I don't think $5 million is an unreasonable or outrageousness salary for a CEO. If you are responsible for the growth and profitability of a company you should get a portion of that. I think it is an irrelevant comparison to compare the highest earner of a company to the lowest. Obviously not all jobs and professions are created equally. The comparisons between the blue collar workers of a company and upper management are like comparing apples to oranges.
I don't see that the quoted poster - or anyone - saying that all compensation should be equal.
When people complain about corporate greed, it's about situations when executives take these types of bonuses WHILE cutting jobs and benefits for their workers.
That is the part that is morally wrong and arguably not best for the company, either, in the long term.
Thank you- I am glad you got the point I was trying to make, and you got it into one sentence too.
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Millie3
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Re: Verizon Strike
Posted by EatingMyVeggies
Posted by Millie3
Posted by Daisy32
Posted by Millie3
interesting read
This is a good explanation as to why VZ doesn't want to budge. Basically times are changing and that side of the business is not very profitable. The workers are very costly for the company on a shrinking side of the biz.
POTS and landlines are a dying breed I agree....but Fios and Internet remain to be very profitable for Verizon.
Right, but VZ's competitors have much cheaper labor. The article is basically saying VZ won't be able to offer the same rates to customers as competition is only growing stronger. They can no longer support all of the Benefits they offer, since their competition offers none of it.
Then maybe the should cut back on the salary, benefits , bonuses, stock options, and all the other bells and whistles a handful of the few at the top receive yearly. JMO, not directed at you. It's like if I have a whole hoard of food that I receive yearly and millions are starving more and more each year, maybe it's time to make some changes and redistributions with one single person or a small handful.
You are absolutely right but this is a United States of America Corporate issue , not just VZ specific. If the stock holders are happy, the top guys keep raking it in. Look at the compensation packages in the financial , law , and other private industries. These will make VZ's CEO look broke. This needs to change across the board because there are way too many middle class families struggling right now.
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Re: Verizon Strike
Posted by Millie3
Posted by Daisy32
Posted by Millie3
interesting read
This is a good explanation as to why VZ doesn't want to budge. Basically times are changing and that side of the business is not very profitable. The workers are very costly for the company on a shrinking side of the biz.
POTS and landlines are a dying breed I agree....but Fios and Internet remain to be very profitable for Verizon.
Right, but VZ's competitors have much cheaper labor. The article is basically saying VZ won't be able to offer the same rates to customers as competition is only growing stronger. They can no longer support all of the Benefits they offer, since their competition offers none of it.
But a CEO making $18mil a year should be smart enough to make his company a place that people want to work at because it is a good company. Then, the competitors won't have employees, and will need to increase benefits to attract them, making for better companies all around.
We shouldn't be letting corporations try to achieve the lowest common denominator at the expense of the employees, and the betterment of the execs. We're currently on a downward spiral in a lot of companies, not just Verizon. Most CEOs are trying to make their numbers off of the backs of the ones who do all the work.
If the union backs down now, the employees will just have a lower bar, and the company will keep chipping away at their benefits every 3 years....
I'm not in a union field, but even for me, every year I lose benefits, my costs are increased, but management always seems to do just fine.....
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Re: Verizon Strike
Can someone say, in fair terms what the strike is about?
Workers want X raise, X benefits (etc)
Management wont budge, wont give etc.
I'm looking for a fair understanding.
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Daisy32
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Re: Verizon Strike
Posted by Paramount
Can someone say, in fair terms what the strike is about?
Workers want X raise, X benefits (etc)
Management wont budge, wont give etc.
I'm looking for a fair understanding.
In a nutshell, union employees want to keep what we have.
Company wants to:
-ship our jobs to Mexico, Dominican Republic, Thailand
-freeze pensions and possibly eliminate pensions
-move associates permanently at any given time 65 miles from current work location.
-move associates at any given time out of state (away from their families) for up to 3 months at a time.
-increase what we pay for healthcare
Plus many many more things but these are some top concerns.
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Daisy32
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Re: Verizon Strike
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by Millie3
Posted by Daisy32
Posted by Millie3
interesting read
This is a good explanation as to why VZ doesn't want to budge. Basically times are changing and that side of the business is not very profitable. The workers are very costly for the company on a shrinking side of the biz.
POTS and landlines are a dying breed I agree....but Fios and Internet remain to be very profitable for Verizon.
Right, but VZ's competitors have much cheaper labor. The article is basically saying VZ won't be able to offer the same rates to customers as competition is only growing stronger. They can no longer support all of the Benefits they offer, since their competition offers none of it.
But a CEO making $18mil a year should be smart enough to make his company a place that people want to work at because it is a good company. Then, the competitors won't have employees, and will need to increase benefits to attract them, making for better companies all around.
We shouldn't be letting corporations try to achieve the lowest common denominator at the expense of the employees, and the betterment of the execs. We're currently on a downward spiral in a lot of companies, not just Verizon. Most CEOs are trying to make their numbers off of the backs of the ones who do all the work.
If the union backs down now, the employees will just have a lower bar, and the company will keep chipping away at their benefits every 3 years....
I'm not in a union field, but even for me, every year I lose benefits, my costs are increased, but management always seems to do just fine.....
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Re: Verizon Strike
Posted by Daisy32
Posted by EatingMyVeggies
Posted by Daisy32
Posted by cds58019]
Their actions on the picket line are making them look trashy, not the fact that they're on the picket line. And only the ones that are doing these things so if you're husband isn't the one doing them then why are you getting so offended?
There are 40,000 people out of work right now because of the Verizon strike.... and I am one of them. So nice of you to point out that out of 40,000 a few of them chose to act like "trash". I'm sure there are a few bad seeds in your occupation as well.....but *gasp* let me NOT make THAT assumption.
I am going without the paycheck that I need to survive. My family is covered under my health benefits which will be cancelled as of May 1st if we are still on strike. I am fighting to keep MY job here in MY country, to keep my pension that I need for retirement, to keep my health benefits for myself, my child and my husband. I wake up every morning with my heart racing for fear of the unknown. I can assure you that we are hard-working middle-class people just trying to survive. Thank you so much for your compassion with pointing out that some of the strikers act like "trash". The vast majority of us are out there every single day walking peacefully with our picket signs....and that's a fact.
To all of those that support us, we truly truly THANK YOU.
I wish you all the best. When you feel the rug being pulled from our under your feet by greed and ********, and your home, your kids, your health, everything is at stake - I would imagine you're pissed off and scared. If that means a sign with a curse word, so be it. I'm not in your shoes, but I feel for you immensely. And it could happen to many industries and companies. And when you're so close to the edge due to this nonsense and you know there are people who don't believe in social systems to help you get back on your feet or free health care or anything - things you would need should you lose the job that allows you to get by - I would imagine you're rightfully pissed off and fed up. I'm sorry. I hope things get better for you and all the workers.
That's exactly how I feel...like the rug was pulled from under me....and it's a terrible, anxiety filled state to be in non-stop
But thank you for your support. Means a lot xo
Yes, we were in shock when we heard strike was happening. I just pray they can settle. Last strike you went back to work in good faith and now, you've been working in good faith since August so...
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| Posted 4/20/16 5:32 PM |
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PitterPatter11
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Re: Verizon Strike
Posted by GoldenRod
If the union backs down now, the employees will just have a lower bar, and the company will keep chipping away at their benefits every 3 years....
I'm not in a union field, but even for me, every year I lose benefits, my costs are increased, but management always seems to do just fine.....
Exactly this!
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| Posted 4/21/16 8:14 AM |
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Hofstra26
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Re: Verizon Strike
Posted by Daisy32
Posted by cds58019]
Their actions on the picket line are making them look trashy, not the fact that they're on the picket line. And only the ones that are doing these things so if you're husband isn't the one doing them then why are you getting so offended?
There are 40,000 people out of work right now because of the Verizon strike.... and I am one of them. So nice of you to point out that out of 40,000 a few of them chose to act like "trash". I'm sure there are a few bad seeds in your occupation as well.....but *gasp* let me NOT make THAT assumption.
I am going without the paycheck that I need to survive. My family is covered under my health benefits which will be cancelled as of May 1st if we are still on strike. I am fighting to keep MY job here in MY country, to keep my pension that I need for retirement, to keep my health benefits for myself, my child and my husband. I wake up every morning with my heart racing for fear of the unknown. I can assure you that we are hard-working middle-class people just trying to survive. Thank you so much for your compassion with pointing out that some of the strikers act like "trash". The vast majority of us are out there every single day walking peacefully with our picket signs....and that's a fact.
To all of those that support us, we truly truly THANK YOU.
I hope that this is all resolved quickly!! xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo
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| Posted 4/21/16 8:40 AM |
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LSP2005
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Re: Verizon Strike
For deployments, imagine your area was the one with the natural disaster. You would want the company to deploy people away from their normal home base to help your town get back on its feet. Does it stink for the worker who has to live in a small town for three months, yes, but realistically,what is the alternative when disaster strikes?
Message edited 4/21/2016 9:12:37 AM.
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| Posted 4/21/16 8:55 AM |
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MM2004
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Re: Verizon Strike
Message edited 4/23/2016 11:20:52 AM.
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| Posted 4/21/16 9:38 AM |
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MM2004
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Re: Verizon Strike
Message edited 4/23/2016 11:21:08 AM.
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| Posted 4/21/16 9:53 AM |
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