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Well, I sent an email to the room parents re: class gifts

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Dear Room Parents:

It has come to my attention that some parents have concerns about the new process for the end-of-year class gifts. I hope that each of you understand that this decision was not made on a whim, but after a lengthy discussion. Recognizing that the process has not worked fairly in the past, and has put several parents in an uncomfortable position, our goal in changing the process was to ensure that we recognize the contribution each teacher makes to each child in this school, while lessening the burden on the parents who cannot afford to contribute during these hard economic times. Personally, I was asked to advance two distraught parents during the holiday gift season, and I hope that we all recognize the importance of avoiding this kind of humiliation for anyone at our school. I think we can all agree that the philosophy and environment at this school is unique; we are a family and the bond of this small community is unlike any other. Every teacher in this school has a role in influencing each child, and works hard to make this a positive environment, which should be recognized across the board. Our goal in changing the process is to align the class gift with that community environment of this school, and to recognize each teacher’s contribution to our children’s lives.

I understand that a few room parents have expressed their desire for their class to “opt-out” of the class gift this year; while I recognize that some may disagree with the process, I must remind you that it is not appropriate for the room parent to make that decision for the class. More importantly, however, this would severely disrupt the purpose and functioning of the process. In order for it to work successfully, we all need to stay consistent and move forward together as a unified group. Therefore, if any room parent does, in fact, intend to opt their class out of the class gift this year, we will have to forego the entire process for the entire school, and instead, ask that everyone do gifts on their own this year. Time is of the essence to inform parents of this decision, so, if this is your intention for your class as room parent, please let me know by the end of the day.

We understand that this process is new and may not be welcomed by everyone. However, I do know that this process has worked successfully at other schools, which is our hope for our school as well. I am asking everyone to allow us the opportunity to see if this new process will work for our school this year. I can assure you that, if it does not, we will certainly reconsider the process moving forward, and, as always, will ask that you provide your feedback and input to ensure that your voice is heard during the decision-making process. And, as always, if you feel strongly against the new process, you may certainly do something that you feel is more appropriate, on an individual basis. But, I must ask that you remember that your decision is your own, and should not be representative of your class.

If anyone has continuing concerns, I must stress the importance of speaking with me directly. You can reach me by email or phone.

Thanks,
Beth

Posted 5/19/11 12:20 PM
 
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Re: Well, I sent an email to the room parents re: class gifts

What is the new process that was put in place? I feel like I missed another post or something Chat Icon

Posted 5/19/11 12:31 PM
 

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Re: Well, I sent an email to the room parents re: class gifts

What are the new and old processes?

Posted 5/19/11 12:31 PM
 

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Re: Well, I sent an email to the room parents re: class gifts

I must have missed what you are asking them to do...but wow..

Sounds like whatever it was it was super controversial and a few folks weren't pleased.

I think youre getting the point across of ..
Come on people, grow up, stop whining. Lets just try this ok? It was a group decision.. kinda late to whine now. If you want to pull the plug and be b!tchy about it, well fine, everyone will suffer. Can't you see we're TRYING to make it easier for everyone?

ha! That's what I got out of it. LOL Chat Icon

Posted 5/19/11 12:31 PM
 

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Re: Well, I sent an email to the room parents re: class gifts

Posted by Xelindrya

I must have missed what you are asking them to do...but wow..

Sounds like whatever it was it was super controversial and a few folks weren't pleased.

I think youre getting the point across of ..
Come on people, grow up, stop whining. Lets just try this ok? It was a group decision.. kinda late to whine now. If you want to pull the plug and be b!tchy about it, well fine, everyone will suffer. Can't you see we're TRYING to make it easier for everyone?

ha! That's what I got out of it. LOL Chat Icon



I agree
maybe just letting everyone do present on there own is better since it sounds like not everyone wants to chip in??

Posted 5/19/11 12:33 PM
 

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Re: Well, I sent an email to the room parents re: class gifts

Very well written!

Posted 5/19/11 12:34 PM
 

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Re: Well, I sent an email to the room parents re: class gifts

The way we have done it in the past is to send out this elaborate, detailed letter, listing each teacher for each class, and all the specialists, with a recommended amount for each ($25 for the lead, $20 for the assistant, $1 for the specialist).

The problem is, several children have a morning and an afternoon class with different teachers, so they would get two letters, with different teachers, but the same specialists, and it just became SO complicated and ridiculous. On top of that, for some reason, most years, the teachers in the infant center get very little money, about $50, because many of the parents can't afford it, and because they have so few infants to take care of, while other teachers, with older children and larger classes, get upwards of $800.

Add on top of that the absolute humiliation that I had to put some people through during the holiday gift season, when, as a room parent, I asked if they wanted to contribute, and they literally cried that they wanted to, but couldn't afford it until the next paycheck, and asked me to advance them.

SO, to make things more easy, and fair, we decided to change things this year, and asked people only to give what they could afford, with no suggested amount, and informed people that we would pool ALL the money together and distribute fairly amongst all the teachers. I also made it VERY clear that, if anyone didn't like the process, they could just not contribute, and do something individually.

Well, we have a bunch of drama-mamma's who made a huge deal out of nothing. The general majority agree with this approach, and it works at other schools in our area. But there are a few bad, vocal eggs, who basically told us they were going to opt their class out because they didn't like all the teachers in the school and didn't want their $$ to go to them, and these same people also went running to the teachers to "warn" them about the new process.

So, this was my diplomatic response...

Posted 5/19/11 12:42 PM
 

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Re: Well, I sent an email to the room parents re: class gifts

Posted by Xelindrya
I think youre getting the point across of ..
Come on people, grow up, stop whining. Lets just try this ok? It was a group decision.. kinda late to whine now. If you want to pull the plug and be b!tchy about it, well fine, everyone will suffer. Can't you see we're TRYING to make it easier for everyone?

ha! That's what I got out of it. LOL Chat Icon



EXACTLY! Chat Icon Chat Icon

Posted 5/19/11 12:42 PM
 

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Re: Well, I sent an email to the room parents re: class gifts

Sorry, I'd opt-out - I'll give what I want, when I want.

Posted 5/19/11 1:20 PM
 

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Re: Well, I sent an email to the room parents re: class gifts

Posted by FreeButterfly

Sorry, I'd opt-out - I'll give what I want, when I want.



I agree! I opted out before and my entire immediate family went in on two nice gifts for dd speach teacher/teacher of the deaf. I liked it better. I was able to see where my money was going and I was super happy with the gift I chose.

Message edited 5/19/2011 1:26:01 PM.

Posted 5/19/11 1:25 PM
 

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Re: Well, I sent an email to the room parents re: class gifts

Posted by FreeButterfly

Sorry, I'd opt-out - I'll give what I want, when I want.



That is still an option on an individual basis... which is what I plan on doing. But the room parents can't opt out the entire class - that's making the decision for them, and not right.

Posted 5/19/11 1:33 PM
 

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Re: Well, I sent an email to the room parents re: class gifts

I prefer your way of doing it-sounds more fair.

Posted 5/19/11 1:46 PM
 

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Re: Well, I sent an email to the room parents re: class gifts

Holy cow, my head is spinning from reading the letter. Maybe it is because I don't know the background.

Were people in the past required to give x amount?

Sorry, I am comfused. (I promise that I made 4 attempts to read it).

Posted 5/19/11 1:50 PM
 

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Re: Well, I sent an email to the room parents re: class gifts

Posted by CrankyPants

I prefer your way of doing it-sounds more fair.



Me too, especially if it's a small school/community environment.

Posted 5/19/11 1:53 PM
 

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Re: Well, I sent an email to the room parents re: class gifts

Posted by MrsDrMatt

Holy cow, my head is spinning from reading the letter. Maybe it is because I don't know the background.

Were people in the past required to give x amount?

Sorry, I am comfused. (I promise that I made 4 attempts to read it).





LOL I feel the same way.

I just hope you know your audience b/c that was a pretty wordy letter!

Posted 5/19/11 1:56 PM
 

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Re: Well, I sent an email to the room parents re: class gifts



If I get this right some teachers get $800.00 dollars for a year end gift and some $50.00, I think it is asking alot in today's economy to expect people to do this. It is nice to give a token gift gift to a teacher at the end of the year, but I think $800.00 is excessive. JMO

Posted 5/19/11 2:50 PM
 

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Re: Well, I sent an email to the room parents re: class gifts

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Posted by MrsDrMatt

Holy cow, my head is spinning from reading the letter. Maybe it is because I don't know the background.

Were people in the past required to give x amount?

Sorry, I am comfused. (I promise that I made 4 attempts to read it).





LOL I feel the same way.

I just hope you know your audience b/c that was a pretty wordy letter!



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Posted 5/19/11 2:57 PM
 

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Re: Well, I sent an email to the room parents re: class gifts

Posted by Tilde

Posted by MrsDrMatt

Holy cow, my head is spinning from reading the letter. Maybe it is because I don't know the background.

Were people in the past required to give x amount?

Sorry, I am comfused. (I promise that I made 4 attempts to read it).





LOL I feel the same way.

I just hope you know your audience b/c that was a pretty wordy letter!



I agree, I tried reading it a few times too. I was lost in that first paragraph so I would def. be asking the other parents to sum it up for me.

Posted 5/19/11 2:59 PM
 

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Re: Well, I sent an email to the room parents re: class gifts

Posted by THUMPER

If I get this right some teachers get $800.00 dollars for a year end gift and some $50.00, I think it is asking alot in today's economy to expect people to do this. It is nice to give a token gift gift to a teacher at the end of the year, but I think $800.00 is excessive. JMO



From what I understand, that is the total they were getting as a gift from all the parents contributions. So it wasn't getting distributed evenly at all, but with Beth's new way of doing it it seems all teachers will get the same amount instead of some getting $800 total and some getting only $50 total. Am I right Beth?

Posted 5/19/11 3:00 PM
 

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Re: Well, I sent an email to the room parents re: class gifts

Posted by THUMPER



If I get this right some teachers get $800.00 dollars for a year end gift and some $50.00, I think it is asking alot in today's economy to expect people to do this. It is nice to give a token gift gift to a teacher at the end of the year, but I think $800.00 is excessive. JMO



These amounts weren't just from one person - they were from the entire class....

Posted 5/19/11 3:02 PM
 

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Re: Well, I sent an email to the room parents re: class gifts

Posted by Bxgell2

Well, we have a bunch of drama-mamma's who made a huge deal out of nothing. The general majority agree with this approach, and it works at other schools in our area. But there are a few bad, vocal eggs, who basically told us they were going to opt their class out because they didn't like all the teachers in the school and didn't want their $$ to go to them, and these same people also went running to the teachers to "warn" them about the new process.

So, this was my diplomatic response...




Ok, so instead of pooling all the money and splitting equally some mamas want some teachers to suffer and for others to be rewarded handsomely?

fine contribute less this year to the 'pool' and go buy something on your own. You'll make that unliked teacher get 'less' while your favorite teachers will still be loved.

Frankly its a GIFT! To warn the teachers seems very petty. What is the teacher supposed to say "Oh how DARE they reduce my end of year bonus!" its a bonus its a thank you and a job well done. Be glad you're getting anything at all!

For the infant teachers who get gipped well same on the toddler parents who's children are a result of those infant rooms. Then again.. I have to say.. its a GIFT!!!! so they get less. Well sorry. We all give what we can.

I'd probably toss in some small amount like a $1 a teacher then get something for my own teachers.

Posted 5/19/11 3:02 PM
 

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Re: Well, I sent an email to the room parents re: class gifts

Just curious:

1. WHAT is a room parent?

2. Parents give gifts to teahers at x-mas and end of year???? Didnt know that.

Posted 5/19/11 3:13 PM
 

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Re: Well, I sent an email to the room parents re: class gifts

Posted by CaMacho

Posted by THUMPER

If I get this right some teachers get $800.00 dollars for a year end gift and some $50.00, I think it is asking alot in today's economy to expect people to do this. It is nice to give a token gift gift to a teacher at the end of the year, but I think $800.00 is excessive. JMO



From what I understand, that is the total they were getting as a gift from all the parents contributions. So it wasn't getting distributed evenly at all, but with Beth's new way of doing it it seems all teachers will get the same amount instead of some getting $800 total and some getting only $50 total. Am I right Beth?



Exactly... we have a tremendously small school, a very community oriented environment. Each teacher is somehow involved in each child, in one way or another, so it's only fair that the pool of money be distributed evenly across the board. I can say this 100% objectively that we have the most fantastic teachers - it's a small group, and there is not one who isn't deserving of an equal class gift.

The teachers who received $50 did so, not because they aren't as good, but because they work in the infant center where the ratios are MUCH smaller, and there happen to be a larger aggregate of low-income families.

So, the end result is that, whereas last year some teachers got $50, and others got $800 - this year, all will get the same amount, probably a few hundred.

Message edited 5/19/2011 3:17:00 PM.

Posted 5/19/11 3:13 PM
 

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Re: Well, I sent an email to the room parents re: class gifts

I am totally confused?!?!?!

So the $$ that everyone is giving is being split among ALL teachers? What grades does this school cover? What if the child doesn't have that teacher?

For example, DD goes to nursery in a N-8 building. Quite frankly, I would NOT be happy if my $$ was going to the other teachers, even if there is a "community feeling" in the school. My child has had an awesome year because of her N teacher and she should be rewarded, period.

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Posted 5/19/11 3:39 PM
 

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Re: Well, I sent an email to the room parents re: class gifts

I think understand what you are saying. I havent had to personally deal with anything like this yet but my sister has. She has 3 kids in school and they each have teachers and aids. So when she got a letter asking each parent to give an x amount for each teacher and x amount for each aid it was just to much for her to give that much $ for 6 people. She never handed her money in and got the teachers and aides a little something on her own.
Like you said they have the option to do that or they can just give $ (any amount they feel appropriate not a set amount) to the room parent and get them a gift based on how much they pool. I can see some parents wanting that because they dont have time/or want to go shopping while other parents might want to pick something out themselves.
The room parent shouldnt decide what each childs parent wants to do and just opt the entire class out. Its not her decision to speak for everyone. Thats what I got from what you wrote.

Ok I just read your last post. If each teacher is in fact somehow involved in every childs life then pooling whatever money you get and distributing it evenly sounds fair but only if they deal with all the children otherwise I wouldnt want my $ going to a teacher that I didnt know and that had nothing to do with my child.

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