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heidla
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Re: Well todays the day...U.S. Prepares for 'Day Without Immigrants'
Posted by SweetestOfPeas
Posted by heidla
What is going on? People act as if all the sudden immigrants, illegal and legal, just suddenly appeared. This country has been built on the backs of such people. While I think it would be great if they were all legal our government makes that difficult and I can understand not wanting to wait. As far as the tax burden, let's not pretend that many of our own citizens are a burden upon our country's economy. The illegals aren't the ones sucking our welfare system dry and they certainly aren't the only ones not paying taxes. As for our hospitals going out of business, that is due in large part to pharmacutical companies and their price gouging on drugs.
QUOTE] do 2 wrongs make it right? yes, there are many dishonest people here who are citizens, but many more who are not.
I would honestly love to know the number of tax evading citizens versus the number of illegal immigrants. I think that the people causing America the most grief econmically are Americans.
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Re: Well todays the day...U.S. Prepares for 'Day Without Immigrants'
Did anyone notice anything differnt today  I did not?!
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| Posted 5/1/06 4:18 PM |
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SweetestOfPeas
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Re: Well todays the day...U.S. Prepares for 'Day Without Immigrants'
Posted by june262004
Did anyone notice anything differnt today I did not?!
no lines at Wal-mart
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Juliet
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Re: Well todays the day...U.S. Prepares for 'Day Without Immigrants'
Posted by june262004
Did anyone notice anything differnt today I did not?!
Yes, I noticed that I only had THREE students. I teach adult ESL and most of my students stayed home.
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| Posted 5/1/06 4:20 PM |
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Tumbalina
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Re: Well todays the day...U.S. Prepares for 'Day Without Immigrants'
Posted by Juliet
Posted by june262004
Did anyone notice anything differnt today I did not?!
Yes, I noticed that I only had THREE students. I teach adult ESL and most of my students stayed home.
their loss.
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| Posted 5/1/06 4:21 PM |
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Tany
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Re: Well todays the day...U.S. Prepares for 'Day Without Immigrants'
Posted by Juliet
Posted by june262004
Did anyone notice anything differnt today I did not?!
Yes, I noticed that I only had THREE students. I teach adult ESL and most of my students stayed home.
sorry to hear, i know how you depend on them for your job. 
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| Posted 5/1/06 4:21 PM |
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SweetestOfPeas
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Re: Well todays the day...U.S. Prepares for 'Day Without Immigrants'
Posted by Tumbalina
Posted by Juliet
Posted by june262004
Did anyone notice anything differnt today I did not?!
Yes, I noticed that I only had THREE students. I teach adult ESL and most of my students stayed home.
their loss.
exactly! I hope you went on with your lesson plan as usual!
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| Posted 5/1/06 4:21 PM |
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CAJ
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Re: Well todays the day...U.S. Prepares for 'Day Without Immigrants'
Posted by Aliasmom
Posted by Juliet
Posted by june262004
Did anyone notice anything differnt today I did not?!
Yes, I noticed that I only had THREE students. I teach adult ESL and most of my students stayed home.
sorry to hear, i know how you depend on them for your job.
OMG I hope your job is still there in the AM....
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| Posted 5/1/06 4:23 PM |
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Tany
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Re: Well todays the day...U.S. Prepares for 'Day Without Immigrants'
wow, I'm utterly shocked on how some of you talk about some of this people.
seriously, talk about discrimination. 
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| Posted 5/1/06 4:23 PM |
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SweetestOfPeas
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Re: Well todays the day...U.S. Prepares for 'Day Without Immigrants'
Posted by Aliasmom
wow, I'm utterly shocked on how some of you talk about some of this people.
seriously, talk about discrimination.
when they start paying taxes like the rest of us, maybe there won't be any feelings of resentment.
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| Posted 5/1/06 4:25 PM |
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Sassyz75
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Re: Well todays the day...U.S. Prepares for 'Day Without Immigrants'
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I agree with Sassy
i think this is the first topic where she and i disagree 
Well heck, I'm glad someone agrees with me.
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| Posted 5/1/06 4:26 PM |
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CAJ
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Re: Well todays the day...U.S. Prepares for 'Day Without Immigrants'
Posted by Aliasmom
wow, I'm utterly shocked on how some of you talk about some of this people.
seriously, talk about discrimination.
It not discrimination, I have and love all of my hispanic friends...but I dont think we should act like the world stop for one day of protest...come on~!
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| Posted 5/1/06 4:27 PM |
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Juliet
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Re: Well todays the day...U.S. Prepares for 'Day Without Immigrants'
This debate could go on for ages.
As far as immigrants wanting to be part of our culture, you guys should come to my ESL class one day and meet my students. We all like to pass judgement about the immigrants, but I will venture to say that not many people here have ever even tried to have a meaningful conversation with someone just because they don't speak English very well.
SO many of my students love being here. Love the opportunities to work, go to school and be part of something great. They WANT to pay taxes and many of them do (albeit with illegal SS$#s). They come to my class to learn English so they can have better opportunities and they really do want to do things the right way.
With all of the recent amnesty talk, I had made my upper level students write about it and what they have here compared to home.
So much of this just boils down to who needs the most help. Sometimes have quotas isn't realistic. It's like hiring a minority because you need one in your company. Hire the person who is best for the job. Help the people who need the help. I understand there are rules but rules should be flexible to the changes of population.
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Tany
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Re: Well todays the day...U.S. Prepares for 'Day Without Immigrants'
Posted by Juliet
This debate could go on for ages.
As far as immigrants wanting to be part of our culture, you guys should come to my ESL class one day and meet my students. We all like to pass judgement about the immigrants, but I will venture to say that not many people here have ever even tried to have a meaningful conversation with someone just because they don't speak English very well.
SO many of my students love being here. Love the opportunities to work, go to school and be part of something great. They WANT to pay taxes and many of them do (albeit with illegal SS$#s). They come to my class to learn English so they can have better opportunities and they really do want to do things the right way.
With all of the recent amnesty talk, I had made my upper level students write about it and what they have here compared to home.
So much of this just boils down to who needs the most help. Sometimes have quotas isn't realistic. It's like hiring a minority because you need one in your company. Hire the person who is best for the job. Help the people who need the help. I understand there are rules but rules should be flexible to the changes of population.
Well said Juliet. 
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CAJ
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Re: Well todays the day...U.S. Prepares for 'Day Without Immigrants'
Posted by Juliet
This debate could go on for ages.
As far as immigrants wanting to be part of our culture, you guys should come to my ESL class one day and meet my students. We all like to pass judgement about the immigrants, but I will venture to say that not many people here have ever even tried to have a meaningful conversation with someone just because they don't speak English very well.
SO many of my students love being here. Love the opportunities to work, go to school and be part of something great. They WANT to pay taxes and many of them do (albeit with illegal SS$#s). They come to my class to learn English so they can have better opportunities and they really do want to do things the right way.
With all of the recent amnesty talk, I had made my upper level students write about it and what they have here compared to home.
So much of this just boils down to who needs the most help. Sometimes have quotas isn't realistic. It's like hiring a minority because you need one in your company. Hire the person who is best for the job. Help the people who need the help. I understand there are rules but rules should be flexible to the changes of population.
Well said your students are people that are trying to work in society not have society work for them...
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| Posted 5/1/06 4:31 PM |
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heidla
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Re: Well todays the day...U.S. Prepares for 'Day Without Immigrants'
Posted by CAJ
Posted by Aliasmom
wow, I'm utterly shocked on how some of you talk about some of this people.
seriously, talk about discrimination.
It not discrimination, I have and love all of my hispanic friends...but I dont think we should act like the world stop for one day of protest...come on~!
It seemed to work for the civil rights movement.
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| Posted 5/1/06 4:33 PM |
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Juliet
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Re: Well todays the day...U.S. Prepares for 'Day Without Immigrants'
About why they wave their flags:
I know so many Americans wonder why immigrants who fled their countries wave the flags of those same countries. I think a lot has to do with comradery. Imagine yourself alone in a foreign place and you meet someone from your home town. You are elated! Someone knows your home, knows your language and maybe even knows your friend. To show that you belong to some group and someone cares about you, you wave the flag of your country. Whether good or bad, that flag represents the people and when you are here alone, that flag means there are countrymen who will help you.
I grew up in Brentwood and although some people say some HORRIBLE things about Brentwood, if I was in a foreign place and met someone from Brentwood, I would be so happy to see them and maybe if I had my old school sweatshirt, I would wear it. It would mean that I belong to a group somewhere.
We all want to feel wanted. I think the flags and patriotism make the immigrants feel like a small piece of a bigger picture.
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CAJ
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Re: Well todays the day...U.S. Prepares for 'Day Without Immigrants'
Posted by heidla
Posted by CAJ
Posted by Aliasmom
wow, I'm utterly shocked on how some of you talk about some of this people.
seriously, talk about discrimination.
It not discrimination, I have and love all of my hispanic friends...but I dont think we should act like the world stop for one day of protest...come on~!
It seemed to work for the civil rights movement.
The Civil Rights Movement was at a peak from 1955-1965...lasted much longer than ONE day!
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SweetestOfPeas
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Re: Well todays the day...U.S. Prepares for 'Day Without Immigrants'
Posted by heidla
Posted by CAJ
Posted by Aliasmom
wow, I'm utterly shocked on how some of you talk about some of this people.
seriously, talk about discrimination.
It not discrimination, I have and love all of my hispanic friends...but I dont think we should act like the world stop for one day of protest...come on~!
It seemed to work for the civil rights movement.
The people who took part in those protest were American citizens.
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| Posted 5/1/06 4:35 PM |
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Juliet
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Re: Well todays the day...U.S. Prepares for 'Day Without Immigrants'
Posted by CAJ
Posted by Aliasmom
Posted by Juliet
Posted by june262004
Did anyone notice anything differnt today I did not?!
Yes, I noticed that I only had THREE students. I teach adult ESL and most of my students stayed home.
sorry to hear, i know how you depend on them for your job.
OMG I hope your job is still there in the AM....
I think they will all come back, but today they had a statement to make.
I taught the three who were there but we ended early as with only three you can imagine how much personal attention they got.
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| Posted 5/1/06 4:38 PM |
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heidla
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Re: Well todays the day...U.S. Prepares for 'Day Without Immigrants'
Posted by SweetestOfPeas
Posted by heidla
Posted by CAJ
Posted by Aliasmom
wow, I'm utterly shocked on how some of you talk about some of this people.
seriously, talk about discrimination.
It not discrimination, I have and love all of my hispanic friends...but I dont think we should act like the world stop for one day of protest...come on~!
It seemed to work for the civil rights movement.
The people who took part in those protest were American citizens.
As are many of those that are taking part in today's protest.
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Tany
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Re: Well todays the day...U.S. Prepares for 'Day Without Immigrants'
Posted by Juliet
Posted by CAJ
Posted by Aliasmom
Posted by Juliet
Posted by june262004
Did anyone notice anything differnt today I did not?!
Yes, I noticed that I only had THREE students. I teach adult ESL and most of my students stayed home.
sorry to hear, i know how you depend on them for your job.
OMG I hope your job is still there in the AM....
I think they will all come back, but today they had a statement to make.
I taught the three who were there but we ended early as with only three you can imagine how much personal attention they got.
glad to hear, you should always stand for what you believe no matter what other people say.
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CAJ
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Re: Well todays the day...U.S. Prepares for 'Day Without Immigrants'
sorry to hear, i know how you depend on them for your job.
OMG I hope your job is still there in the AM....
I think they will all come back, but today they had a statement to make.
I taught the three who were there but we ended early as with only three you can imagine how much personal attention they got.
glad to hear, you should always stand for what you believe no matter what other people say.
well said Aliasmom
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Sassyz75
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Re: Well todays the day...U.S. Prepares for 'Day Without Immigrants'
Posted by SweetestOfPeas
Posted by Aliasmom
wow, I'm utterly shocked on how some of you talk about some of this people.
seriously, talk about discrimination.
when they start paying taxes like the rest of us, maybe there won't be any feelings of resentment.
That is what you are missing.... they are marching so they CAN pay taxes.. so they CAN be legal.. and yet you say, nope- you didn't do it the right way- so just stay illegal? Get out? That isn't a reality.
we have two options here:
1) let them be legal and pay taxes
2) let them continue to be illegal and "drain" the system
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| Posted 5/1/06 4:42 PM |
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heidla
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Re: Well todays the day...U.S. Prepares for 'Day Without Immigrants'
Posted by CAJ
Posted by heidla
Posted by CAJ
Posted by Aliasmom
wow, I'm utterly shocked on how some of you talk about some of this people.
seriously, talk about discrimination.
It not discrimination, I have and love all of my hispanic friends...but I dont think we should act like the world stop for one day of protest...come on~!
It seemed to work for the civil rights movement.
The Civil Rights Movement was at a peak from 1955-1965...lasted much longer than ONE day!
I am aware that the movement was longer then one day. This debate has been going on for more then ONE day. My point is that this is just the beginning of the actions to be taken.
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