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Mrs213
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When do you think schools will reopen?
I don’t anticipate they will open in September. If they do I think they will try to and soon thereafter realize it’s a logistical nightmare and close again or implement part time distance learning. It’s impossible for young elementary school kids to social distance. Kids do things like touch each other’s faces...
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Re: When do you think schools will reopen?
Posted by ChilisWife
So when you see the people on Facebook whining that this woman was only 4.5 feet away from another human, that she wasn't wearing a mask out in the sun on the beach, and that she had a party in her backyard....it's probably ME.
I agree with you but we really should be wearing the masks and staying 6 feet apart in public. It protects others if you have it and are asymptotic. It’s small sacrifice to make for the sake of people’s health...
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Re: When do you think schools will reopen?
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Mayor DiBlasio said today he thinks NYC will have reached stage 4 by September, and that children would be able to start school on time. But he is also thinking Phase 1 will start sometime in June. I just don't see NYC/LI EVER hitting all of these milestones. It is beyond depressing. I am so worried that downstate NY will be the only area of the country not living life.
Never thought i'd be looking to DeBlasio for hope or sanity, or to say he's the better leader... and yet, here we are....
Yep. I feel better after listening to him, Cuomo makes me want to throw myself out a window. I still say Cuomo knew last month when DiBlasio announced schools staying closed, that he was right. But God forbid anyone get to make that decision besides him. I also will never forget him sitting up there on March 2nd, telling New Yorkers it will not get that bad here, to go out and live your life. The amount of cases & deaths we saw here could have been vastly reduced.
This! At the end of February, I kept thinking why the hell is nothing being done. There were cases in the US, but it’s like everyone had their heads in the sand. I am so pissed that nothing was ever done prior to Feb. like the entire government was too afraid of hurting the economy slightly and that obviously blew up in their faces.
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Re: When do you think schools will reopen?
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by ChilisWife
How long are you willing to stay in your house without getting a paycheck and relying on a food line to feed your family? How long are you willing to isolate your children from any human interaction? Is that life really better than getting a virus with a 99% survival rate? Is saving a human life worth sacrificing yours? We are no longer savings lives, we are trading lives. And I am done.
I agree with everything you just said but wanted to quote just this... because this is the crux of the issue.
"Is that life really better than getting a virus with a 99% survival rate? "
To me , it's not.
And I've been saying that for a while now.
I'm terrified. And not of this virus. I am terrified at how easy it is for our govt to control our lives. To control our livelihoods. To control our children's education. To take away everything we have worked for, everything we hold dear
All those brave souls who died in wars "defending our freedoms" defending "our way of life", "freedom isn't free", all of that- I feel like they died in vain.
Because it's all a sham.
We have no rights.
Could not agree more with u ChilisWife!!! On point!
U’re right Nervous Nell and we do have rights (well at least we still have some cause even that can be a delusion at times). But the thing is that the government is so clever on how to persuade the public that they can easily get their way regardless on how much time they’d spend doing so. They’ve been doing just that for a while, wanna know how? Through fear, the best and most effective technique ever. They will never, ever admit their wrong doing and their true intentions but they will for sure manipulate the truth to fit their agenda, “it’s not about u, it’s about us” they’d say. “for the greater good”, “it’s for the benefit of everyone”, “ur responsabilty is with everyone not just u”, etc, etc. They’d manipulate ur reasoning so well that ur decision is never urs to begin with but theirs all along, they’re so good at it that they’d make u think U excercised ur right to choose when in reality they guided u to that choice in a very deceiving way, without u even realizing it. They’ve using this way of manipulating the public for a long time, giving them more and more power, little by little. But the thing is that unless we don’t realize what’s happening and stop believing everything they’re feeding us, this train ride will never stop and we won’t truly comprehend how much we have lost until it’s too late. We have to understand that things will never be black and white with the government, there will always be a hidden agenda, “oh they’re telling us this so it must be this”, no! As soon as we realize that and start questioning and looking and demanding answers, then well see some difference.
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Re: When do you think schools will reopen?
Posted by ChilisWife
I watched the King's conference a few hours ago and have to say that it's just now that I am beginning to calm down. He wants to control the school system - does nobody else see this? Okay, at the risk of sounding like a crazy person - if he requires that everyone learn the same thing remotely from one teacher then that means that the government controls what is taught and there is no questioning, no discussing, no interacting. That's pretty much his ideal agenda. And he really doesn't care how parents will work if the kids are home. He wants you NOT to work so that you are reliant on the government.
As for a vaccine that will be rushed through without proper trials and then mandated - when people start getting paralyzed, guillane barre syndrome, etc. (like what has happened with previous rushed vaccine programs that were then abruptly stopped), then what? Is that an acceptable risk for your family, and if it is, then that risk is far greater than the risk of dying of the virus, so we may as well open now. You can't say that having antibodies doesn't prevent you from getting the virus again and then say a vaccine will save us all. Those two things are inconsistent. Any vaccine will not be 100% effective. And EVEN IF a vaccine is developed, it will take a very very long time to vaccinate 330 million people. It's not like a vaccine is ready and then voila, the world is normal again.
And I think it's beyond disgusting that he sat there and said "oh you horrible people want money over human life" and then sat there for 30 minutes literally yelling about how the federal government needs to give him billions of dollars.
People truly think staying home is eliminating the virus. They say "when it's safe when it's safe" and nobody is telling them the date for that is NEVER. The goal was to flatten the curve and then once he locked us in our homes and took away our income and entire lives he said, "nah, let's wait a few years for a cure." And he can STFU about his masks. All the "experts" including Fauci and the surgeon general relentlessly told us not to buy masks, not to wear masks, they don't do anything, don't be an idiot, blah blah blah. And now they are mandatory. Yesterday the CDC admitted that they overinflated the number of flu deaths reported each year but it's worth it to "encourage vaccination." Lie after lie after lie and yet we fall in line like sheep. (For the record yes I wear a mask in stores as they won't let you in without one).
Our entire way of life is being destroyed and everyone just sits back and takes it. People say "oh if he didn't open schools then people would protest and riot." Really? Because last week, people who protested were called "disgusting and psycho" on these boards. But they are heroes and they are patriots and I am about to go stand with them.
How long are you willing to stay in your house without getting a paycheck and relying on a food line to feed your family? How long are you willing to isolate your children from any human interaction? Is that life really better than getting a virus with a 99% survival rate? Is saving a human life worth sacrificing yours? We are no longer savings lives, we are trading lives. And I am done.
So when you see the people on Facebook whining that this woman was only 4.5 feet away from another human, that she wasn't wearing a mask out in the sun on the beach, and that she had a party in her backyard....it's probably ME.
I think I love you
That was exactly what I’ve had swarming in my brain for weeks on end. I can’t thank you enough for putting it into words.
“We are no longer saving lives, we are trading lives”. SPOT ON!!!
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ChilisWife
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Re: When do you think schools will reopen?
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Posted by ChilisWife
We are no longer savings lives, we are trading lives. And I am done.
So when you see the people on Facebook whining that this woman was only 4.5 feet away from another human, that she wasn't wearing a mask out in the sun on the beach, and that she had a party in her backyard....it's probably ME.
I think I love you
That was exactly what I’ve had swarming in my brain for weeks on end. I can’t thank you enough for putting it into words.
“We are no longer saving lives, we are trading lives”. SPOT ON!!!
Right back at ya! 
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Re: When do you think schools will reopen?
What I don’t understand is a few weeks ago he was saying we can’t look at reopening the economy without looking at schools. Schools are childcare for working parents. I was like wow, he gets it.
Well if schools reopening is phase 4 and it is this imagined crap (part-time in a building, remote learning), what the hell are parents supposed to do? Am I supposed to tell my job I can only work 3 days a week in the office because my kids are home from school 2 days a week? Why is that my employer’s problem? I have never made childcare a concern of my job (if I needed DH or I just took vacation). But clearly we don’t have unlimited vacation.
I am so stressed out. We hate working remotely, the kids hate having school remotely, everything is half assed (my job bc I am trying to assist my kids, my kids bc I am trying to work). This all sucks in so many ways.
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Re: When do you think schools will reopen?
I am so hopeful they open in September. I was happy to read some of you posting that camps are planning to open. I guess that can be used as somewhat of a barometer for school opening.
I only heard portions of Cuomo's speech. For years. my friend has gone on and on about how much he hates teachers. Then, when this all started, she began working in overdrive saying that she needs to stay relevant, show the district she is necessary, etc. so she can keep her job. I told her she is paranoid and nuts. Now....I think she might be right. NOBODY and NO THING replaces a teacher. Does he want us to be behind every other country? These kids need actual teachers, teaching in a classroom. This distant learning is BS.
Has anyone else's kids teachers kicked it up this week? I have to say my son's 3rd grade teacher has been great but I noticed that she is zooming 3x a week now as opposed to once. I don't know if it's because she is missing the kids and wants to feel connected or if she is required to. Either way, its great for my son's morale so I appreciate it.
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Re: When do you think schools will reopen?
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I am starting to worry they wont open until a vaccine is offered. That is honestly what the govt sees as phase 3.
They see a vaccine as stage 3? I've never heard that. Can't say I'd be surprised though. My hope is while kids are in camp this summer, they can go through phases 2 and 3, get the adults back to work, and kids will follow in September. Distance learning is not, in any way, an adequate education.
And this is why people don't like Cuomo. Nobody is blaming him for the virus being here. But some of the things he says and thinks make it very clear he can't see past his privileged life.
I know someone who works for a very large company in the city (15k+ employees). They were told (regarding returning to work) phase 1 is June 1st -- only essential workers, stage 2 is September 1st and only for people who have a hard time completing work from home. Stage 3 is vaccine. I was floored.
My friend works for Capital One and they were told they will not open the office until September 1st.
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Re: When do you think schools will reopen?
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I am so hopeful they open in September. I was happy to read some of you posting that camps are planning to open. I guess that can be used as somewhat of a barometer for school opening.
I only heard portions of Cuomo's speech. For years. my friend has gone on and on about how much he hates teachers. Then, when this all started, she began working in overdrive saying that she needs to stay relevant, show the district she is necessary, etc. so she can keep her job. I told her she is paranoid and nuts. Now....I think she might be right. NOBODY and NO THING replaces a teacher. Does he want us to be behind every other country? These kids need actual teachers, teaching in a classroom. This distant learning is BS.
Has anyone else's kids teachers kicked it up this week? I have to say my son's 3rd grade teacher has been great but I noticed that she is zooming 3x a week now as opposed to once. I don't know if it's because she is missing the kids and wants to feel connected or if she is required to. Either way, its great for my son's morale so I appreciate it.
From the stories he tells every day about his daughters, I wish he had to do distance learning with them and see that although the teachers are doing the best they can - it's not sustainable and doesn't replace in person learning. They sound like they would give him the pushback we are all receiving on a daily basis...
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Re: When do you think schools will reopen?
Posted by FirstMate
I am so hopeful they open in September. I was happy to read some of you posting that camps are planning to open. I guess that can be used as somewhat of a barometer for school opening.
I only heard portions of Cuomo's speech. For years. my friend has gone on and on about how much he hates teachers. Then, when this all started, she began working in overdrive saying that she needs to stay relevant, show the district she is necessary, etc. so she can keep her job. I told her she is paranoid and nuts. Now....I think she might be right. NOBODY and NO THING replaces a teacher. Does he want us to be behind every other country? These kids need actual teachers, teaching in a classroom. This distant learning is BS.
Has anyone else's kids teachers kicked it up this week? I have to say my son's 3rd grade teacher has been great but I noticed that she is zooming 3x a week now as opposed to once. I don't know if it's because she is missing the kids and wants to feel connected or if she is required to. Either way, its great for my son's morale so I appreciate it.
So I was unhappy with the amount of contact from my district and my son's teacher since the beginning of distance learning. Especially since I work for NYC DOE and I am working my butt off. But right after they announced officially schools will be shut for the remainder of the year, the superintendent sent an e-mail that we will be receiving more supplies and teachers have been working hard at implementing new programs. I think what happened is that until they got official word, they were just coasting along doing the minimum. So yes, they have 'stepped it up.'
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Naturalmama
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When do you think schools will reopen?
Is there anyone who thinks even the best form of distance learning can replace an actual classroom? I am not being snarky, I am actually open to hearing other's opinions. After hearing Cuomo's conference yesterday, I spent the rest of the day completely sick with anxiety. It sounds like if he can get away with distance learning for all of the 2020-21 academic year, he will do it. And he is trying to brainwash parents into thinking it will be fine if he does that. My kids school is doing a phenomenal job, they have been since March. But even in the absolute best scenario, this is not an adequate education. I would love to see the other side of it. Perhaps I am missing something.
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Re: When do you think schools will reopen?
I don't watch Cuomo anymore. Why. What for. It was reminding of Hunger Games.
My district head says to be prepared for continued e-learning in September.
Another neighboring hamlet's building head said they will know more about what their September might look like by the end of May.
Bravo to the teachers who are really trying out there. I hear about them all the time. The ones who, despite having kids (under 5) at home and a spouse who is living elsewhere because of his current job, are really helping their students thrive in this weird phase of society we are in. Aaaannnnd, There are teachers who, in the same situation, don't understand how. Personally, we're dealing with the latter here at home and while it's frustrating, I'm doing the best I can with what I have.
There are students who are thriving and students who are not.
I hate the way schools are run right now, factory-model education system petri dishes that they are, so I'm trying to keep an open mind on what future school might look like. Kids NEED social/emotional literacy and you can't get it at the same level via e-learning. I don't have answers, I just have questions. Lots of questions....
Also thinking about what home school might look like, as frightening as that might sound. My job may not survive this pandemic.
With all the pta fundraising and politics out of the way, I'm reconnecting with other district parents more and getting support that way too. It's been refreshing.
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Re: When do you think schools will reopen?
Posted by Naturalmama
Is there anyone who thinks even the best form of distance learning can replace an actual classroom? I am not being snarky, I am actually open to hearing other's opinions. After hearing Cuomo's conference yesterday, I spent the rest of the day completely sick with anxiety. It sounds like if he can get away with distance learning for all of the 2020-21 academic year, he will do it. And he is trying to brainwash parents into thinking it will be fine if he does that. My kids school is doing a phenomenal job, they have been since March. But even in the absolute best scenario, this is not an adequate education. I would love to see the other side of it. Perhaps I am missing something.
We have a charter school (my kids don’t go there) and at the charter school they have a full day of zoom learning. 9am -3pm with a lunch break. They have to ask for a bathroom break etc. everything’s done the same as if they were in actual school. Even in this case, best case scenario, I think it is an unreasonable expectation. There are too many distractions at home...
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Re: When do you think schools will reopen?
Posted by Naturalmama
Is there anyone who thinks even the best form of distance learning can replace an actual classroom? I am not being snarky, I am actually open to hearing other's opinions. After hearing Cuomo's conference yesterday, I spent the rest of the day completely sick with anxiety. It sounds like if he can get away with distance learning for all of the 2020-21 academic year, he will do it. And he is trying to brainwash parents into thinking it will be fine if he does that. My kids school is doing a phenomenal job, they have been since March. But even in the absolute best scenario, this is not an adequate education. I would love to see the other side of it. Perhaps I am missing something.
I think maybe, and a very small maybe, small sized public schools and private schools like my sons, can handle it a little longer but even then there are many challenges. It’s not sustainable.
NYC / NJ metro area, hell no! It’s ridiculous to think this is even remotely feasible. Cuomo is using people’s fears to get away with this BS plan. There are too many students. Many students do not have laptops, contrary to what they say on the news and on this site. Many students have not learned a damn thing in almost two months. the education system was already in trouble in the US. He is just going to push us further behind.
Plus parents eventually have to go to work. So this makes no damn sense at all. There are actual sets of parents/single parents that still had to go into work during this crisis. Not everyone works from home!! Or is the plan to lock everyone up indefinitely? Screw the people who can’t work remote?
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Re: When do you think schools will reopen?
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Posted by Naturalmama
Is there anyone who thinks even the best form of distance learning can replace an actual classroom? I am not being snarky, I am actually open to hearing other's opinions. After hearing Cuomo's conference yesterday, I spent the rest of the day completely sick with anxiety. It sounds like if he can get away with distance learning for all of the 2020-21 academic year, he will do it. And he is trying to brainwash parents into thinking it will be fine if he does that. My kids school is doing a phenomenal job, they have been since March. But even in the absolute best scenario, this is not an adequate education. I would love to see the other side of it. Perhaps I am missing something.
I think maybe, and a very small maybe, small sized public schools and private schools like my sons, can handle it a little longer but even then there are many challenges. It’s not sustainable.
NYC / NJ metro area, hell no! It’s ridiculous to think this is even remotely feasible. Cuomo is using people’s fears to get away with this BS plan. There are too many students. Many students do not have laptops, contrary to what they say on the news and on this site. Many students have not learned a damn thing in almost two months. the education system was already in trouble in the US. He is just going to push us further behind.
Plus parents eventually have to go to work. So this makes no damn sense at all. There are actual sets of parents/single parents that still had to go into work during this crisis. Not everyone works from home!! Or is the plan to lock everyone up indefinitely? Screw the people who can’t work remote?
If this is really the plan, people need to start protesting, writing their representatives, finding out how to bring lawsuits against the state, etc.
We can't stand for this.
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Re: When do you think schools will reopen?
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Posted by Naturalmama
Is there anyone who thinks even the best form of distance learning can replace an actual classroom? I am not being snarky, I am actually open to hearing other's opinions. After hearing Cuomo's conference yesterday, I spent the rest of the day completely sick with anxiety. It sounds like if he can get away with distance learning for all of the 2020-21 academic year, he will do it. And he is trying to brainwash parents into thinking it will be fine if he does that. My kids school is doing a phenomenal job, they have been since March. But even in the absolute best scenario, this is not an adequate education. I would love to see the other side of it. Perhaps I am missing something.
I think maybe, and a very small maybe, small sized public schools and private schools like my sons, can handle it a little longer but even then there are many challenges. It’s not sustainable.
NYC / NJ metro area, hell no! It’s ridiculous to think this is even remotely feasible. Cuomo is using people’s fears to get away with this BS plan. There are too many students. Many students do not have laptops, contrary to what they say on the news and on this site. Many students have not learned a damn thing in almost two months. the education system was already in trouble in the US. He is just going to push us further behind.
Plus parents eventually have to go to work. So this makes no damn sense at all. There are actual sets of parents/single parents that still had to go into work during this crisis. Not everyone works from home!! Or is the plan to lock everyone up indefinitely? Screw the people who can’t work remote?
If this is really the plan, people need to start protesting, writing their representatives, finding out how to bring lawsuits against the state, etc.
We can't stand for this.
I agree. I know many, many parents who feel the same. Kids NEED to be back in those buildings come September.
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When do you think schools will reopen?
My 2nd grader has had assignments all week centering around a 7 oage book on voting.
Read it, take the quiz on Monday, draw 4 pictures about it Tuesday and write a reading response today... The end of his reading response today was I don't want to be in the book because I don't want to be in it. I had no fight in me or any other suggestions (because the book is just about a kid going to vote) so he submitted it that way and I had work to do.
They need to go back to school... They need the socialization. They don't listen to their parents the same way they listen to their teachers (even if their parents are teachers). It's just unsustainable.
They need the social aspect, especially in this technological age when they are being blasted for not being able to talk to each other face to face.
Distance learning is fine in certain circumstances like this - and maybe on a snow day or if a child has an extended sickness but it's not sustainable.
Home schooling may work for some who aren't employed at the same time but, distance learning stinks.
Oh - also, my 4th grader had to explain why one fraction is bigger than another for about 10 examples. I mean come on - how can you explain that over and over in a sentence - not a drawing or anything.
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Re: When do you think schools will reopen?
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Posted by Naturalmama
Is there anyone who thinks even the best form of distance learning can replace an actual classroom? I am not being snarky, I am actually open to hearing other's opinions. After hearing Cuomo's conference yesterday, I spent the rest of the day completely sick with anxiety. It sounds like if he can get away with distance learning for all of the 2020-21 academic year, he will do it. And he is trying to brainwash parents into thinking it will be fine if he does that. My kids school is doing a phenomenal job, they have been since March. But even in the absolute best scenario, this is not an adequate education. I would love to see the other side of it. Perhaps I am missing something.
We have a charter school (my kids don’t go there) and at the charter school they have a full day of zoom learning. 9am -3pm with a lunch break. They have to ask for a bathroom break etc. everything’s done the same as if they were in actual school. Even in this case, best case scenario, I think it is an unreasonable expectation. There are too many distractions at home...
If it is done like the way mentioned above, then it can go on longer. It isn't a perfect substitute, though, and technology still has to develop a lot more for this to work.
I run my classes like this on Zoom, but I teach university students. It isn't ideal, but they are dealing with it. I do see it as more of an option for certain classes after this whole thing is over. As a teacher, it isn't ideal to get my job done perfectly, but as someone with severe anxiety, it works well for me to do my job.
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Re: When do you think schools will reopen?
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Posted by Naturalmama
Is there anyone who thinks even the best form of distance learning can replace an actual classroom? I am not being snarky, I am actually open to hearing other's opinions. After hearing Cuomo's conference yesterday, I spent the rest of the day completely sick with anxiety. It sounds like if he can get away with distance learning for all of the 2020-21 academic year, he will do it. And he is trying to brainwash parents into thinking it will be fine if he does that. My kids school is doing a phenomenal job, they have been since March. But even in the absolute best scenario, this is not an adequate education. I would love to see the other side of it. Perhaps I am missing something.
We have a charter school (my kids don’t go there) and at the charter school they have a full day of zoom learning. 9am -3pm with a lunch break. They have to ask for a bathroom break etc. everything’s done the same as if they were in actual school. Even in this case, best case scenario, I think it is an unreasonable expectation. There are too many distractions at home...
If it is done like the way mentioned above, then it can go on longer. It isn't a perfect substitute, though, and technology still has to develop a lot more for this to work.
I run my classes like this on Zoom, but I teach university students. It isn't ideal, but they are dealing with it. I do see it as more of an option for certain classes after this whole thing is over. As a teacher, it isn't ideal to get my job done perfectly, but as someone with severe anxiety, it works well for me to do my job.
University is not the same as teaching younger kids. And if the parent has to go to work, who is staying home with the younger kids? No one can answer that.
The way we are built here in the US, especially the tri-state area, this is not sustainable past this academic school year. Schools need to open in September and this shouldn’t be negotiable.
Tbh I think they should’ve had a plan to open last two weeks in June to test out the kinks. So they have some lessons learned for September. It’s called mitigating risks, not hiding under a rock from risks. That’s effective planning. Or at the very least try it with summer programs.
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| Posted 5/6/20 7:18 AM |
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chilltocam
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Re: When do you think schools will reopen?
Posted by Mrs213
Posted by Naturalmama
Is there anyone who thinks even the best form of distance learning can replace an actual classroom? I am not being snarky, I am actually open to hearing other's opinions. After hearing Cuomo's conference yesterday, I spent the rest of the day completely sick with anxiety. It sounds like if he can get away with distance learning for all of the 2020-21 academic year, he will do it. And he is trying to brainwash parents into thinking it will be fine if he does that. My kids school is doing a phenomenal job, they have been since March. But even in the absolute best scenario, this is not an adequate education. I would love to see the other side of it. Perhaps I am missing something.
We have a charter school (my kids don’t go there) and at the charter school they have a full day of zoom learning. 9am -3pm with a lunch break. They have to ask for a bathroom break etc. everything’s done the same as if they were in actual school. Even in this case, best case scenario, I think it is an unreasonable expectation. There are too many distractions at home...
I'm not a teacher and not a parent, but it seems like this way of doing "remote learning" would be so much better than what I am hearing about. I realize it could be very difficult for parents who are working from home to make sure their child is paying attention etc, but it also seems like it might make parent's lives easier in some ways too. It would definitely provide some structure and engagement between students and teachers
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| Posted 5/6/20 7:25 AM |
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Sash
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Re: When do you think schools will reopen?
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by Mrs213
Posted by Naturalmama
Is there anyone who thinks even the best form of distance learning can replace an actual classroom? I am not being snarky, I am actually open to hearing other's opinions. After hearing Cuomo's conference yesterday, I spent the rest of the day completely sick with anxiety. It sounds like if he can get away with distance learning for all of the 2020-21 academic year, he will do it. And he is trying to brainwash parents into thinking it will be fine if he does that. My kids school is doing a phenomenal job, they have been since March. But even in the absolute best scenario, this is not an adequate education. I would love to see the other side of it. Perhaps I am missing something.
We have a charter school (my kids don’t go there) and at the charter school they have a full day of zoom learning. 9am -3pm with a lunch break. They have to ask for a bathroom break etc. everything’s done the same as if they were in actual school. Even in this case, best case scenario, I think it is an unreasonable expectation. There are too many distractions at home...
I'm not a teacher and not a parent, but it seems like this way of doing "remote learning" would be so much better than what I am hearing about. I realize it could be very difficult for parents who are working from home to make sure their child is paying attention etc, but it also seems like it might make parent's lives easier in some ways too. It would definitely provide some structure and engagement between students and teachers
This also doesn’t work for middle school / High school. They have different teachers for different subjects.
My son has to switch between different zoom and google hangout meetings. He already was marked absent this week for not attending Science class. Technically he cut class and I am home with him. He has organization issues which he was suppose to get help with, that was cancelled indefinitely. This will not work for all children.
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| Posted 5/6/20 7:31 AM |
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klingklang77
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Re: When do you think schools will reopen?
Posted by Sash
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by Mrs213
Posted by Naturalmama
Is there anyone who thinks even the best form of distance learning can replace an actual classroom? I am not being snarky, I am actually open to hearing other's opinions. After hearing Cuomo's conference yesterday, I spent the rest of the day completely sick with anxiety. It sounds like if he can get away with distance learning for all of the 2020-21 academic year, he will do it. And he is trying to brainwash parents into thinking it will be fine if he does that. My kids school is doing a phenomenal job, they have been since March. But even in the absolute best scenario, this is not an adequate education. I would love to see the other side of it. Perhaps I am missing something.
We have a charter school (my kids don’t go there) and at the charter school they have a full day of zoom learning. 9am -3pm with a lunch break. They have to ask for a bathroom break etc. everything’s done the same as if they were in actual school. Even in this case, best case scenario, I think it is an unreasonable expectation. There are too many distractions at home...
If it is done like the way mentioned above, then it can go on longer. It isn't a perfect substitute, though, and technology still has to develop a lot more for this to work.
I run my classes like this on Zoom, but I teach university students. It isn't ideal, but they are dealing with it. I do see it as more of an option for certain classes after this whole thing is over. As a teacher, it isn't ideal to get my job done perfectly, but as someone with severe anxiety, it works well for me to do my job.
University is not the same as teaching younger kids. And if the parent has to go to work, who is staying home with the younger kids? No one can answer that.
The way we are built here in the US, especially the tri-state area, this is not sustainable past this academic school year. Schools need to open in September and this shouldn’t be negotiable.
Tbh I think they should’ve had a plan to open last two weeks in June to test out the kinks. So they have some lessons learned for September. It’s called mitigating risks, not hiding under a rock from risks. That’s effective planning. Or at the very least try it with summer programs.
I don't disagree with you about the young kids, but I think it will work until the end of the school year. As for September, who knows? It keeps changing here every day. Our schools are opening staggered right now (I posted it in the other thread). I'm curious to see how that works out.
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| Posted 5/6/20 7:31 AM |
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Sash
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Re: When do you think schools will reopen?
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by Sash
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by Mrs213
Posted by Naturalmama
Is there anyone who thinks even the best form of distance learning can replace an actual classroom? I am not being snarky, I am actually open to hearing other's opinions. After hearing Cuomo's conference yesterday, I spent the rest of the day completely sick with anxiety. It sounds like if he can get away with distance learning for all of the 2020-21 academic year, he will do it. And he is trying to brainwash parents into thinking it will be fine if he does that. My kids school is doing a phenomenal job, they have been since March. But even in the absolute best scenario, this is not an adequate education. I would love to see the other side of it. Perhaps I am missing something.
We have a charter school (my kids don’t go there) and at the charter school they have a full day of zoom learning. 9am -3pm with a lunch break. They have to ask for a bathroom break etc. everything’s done the same as if they were in actual school. Even in this case, best case scenario, I think it is an unreasonable expectation. There are too many distractions at home...
If it is done like the way mentioned above, then it can go on longer. It isn't a perfect substitute, though, and technology still has to develop a lot more for this to work.
I run my classes like this on Zoom, but I teach university students. It isn't ideal, but they are dealing with it. I do see it as more of an option for certain classes after this whole thing is over. As a teacher, it isn't ideal to get my job done perfectly, but as someone with severe anxiety, it works well for me to do my job.
University is not the same as teaching younger kids. And if the parent has to go to work, who is staying home with the younger kids? No one can answer that.
The way we are built here in the US, especially the tri-state area, this is not sustainable past this academic school year. Schools need to open in September and this shouldn’t be negotiable.
Tbh I think they should’ve had a plan to open last two weeks in June to test out the kinks. So they have some lessons learned for September. It’s called mitigating risks, not hiding under a rock from risks. That’s effective planning. Or at the very least try it with summer programs.
I don't disagree with you about the young kids, but I think it will work until the end of the school year. As for September, who knows? It keeps changing here every day. Our schools are opening staggered right now (I posted it in the other thread). I'm curious to see how that works out.
The problem is it’s not working now. Many posters on here are saying it’s not working, everyone in my family with kids is saying it’s not working. I think my son is the only one who is getting actual work in my family. But we are going to deal with it till the end of the year because there is no choice. If it’s not working now, what happens when they‘ start opening the economy and leave schools for last? It’s 100% going to crumble. I know teachers personally, who told me their students do not have the proper resources, aren’t learning or logging on, and some have to watch their siblings and can’t log on.
That is why I am saying it can’t be like this in September.
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| Posted 5/6/20 7:35 AM |
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lululu
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Re: When do you think schools will reopen?
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by Mrs213
Posted by Naturalmama
Is there anyone who thinks even the best form of distance learning can replace an actual classroom? I am not being snarky, I am actually open to hearing other's opinions. After hearing Cuomo's conference yesterday, I spent the rest of the day completely sick with anxiety. It sounds like if he can get away with distance learning for all of the 2020-21 academic year, he will do it. And he is trying to brainwash parents into thinking it will be fine if he does that. My kids school is doing a phenomenal job, they have been since March. But even in the absolute best scenario, this is not an adequate education. I would love to see the other side of it. Perhaps I am missing something.
We have a charter school (my kids don’t go there) and at the charter school they have a full day of zoom learning. 9am -3pm with a lunch break. They have to ask for a bathroom break etc. everything’s done the same as if they were in actual school. Even in this case, best case scenario, I think it is an unreasonable expectation. There are too many distractions at home...
If it is done like the way mentioned above, then it can go on longer. It isn't a perfect substitute, though, and technology still has to develop a lot more for this to work.
I run my classes like this on Zoom, but I teach university students. It isn't ideal, but they are dealing with it. I do see it as more of an option for certain classes after this whole thing is over. As a teacher, it isn't ideal to get my job done perfectly, but as someone with severe anxiety, it works well for me to do my job.
It can go on longer but it shouldn't go on indefinitely for a multitude of reasons. This is not the same as someone that chooses to homeschool their child and provides opportunities for socialization outside of the home. This would be children interacting almost exclusively with their immediate family/household members and no other children. We will be raising a bunch of kids who have no idea how to interact on a social level.
Also, most people depend on two incomes and this will require parents to have one person working from home indefinitely, which may or may not be sustainable.
Also, you say you run your classes like this on zoom - but I can not imagine that you require your students to sit in front of a computer for 6 hours straight. The thought of my child sitting in front of a screen for that long instead of going to school is awful. My younger kids are only 8 & 9. that is not normal.
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| Posted 5/6/20 7:41 AM |
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