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Chatham-Chick
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Re: Why purchase a "real" bag?
I'm the first to admit that their is some status involved in owning a real designer bag, but I also don't want the same bag that everybody and their mother owns, which is why I'm not a fan of any logo bags. The few designer bags that I do own are made in limited quantities and/or difficult to make replicas of.
I would never write off a non-designer bag because it didn't have a label. Not that they are high-end, but I was buying Koobas before anybody knew what or who they were. I thought the designs were cool, but once they went to the masses and more than doubled their prices, I was completely turned off.
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Re: Why purchase a "real" bag?
I'll tell you why I just bought a really expensive Fendi bag. And for the record..nobody knows it's Fendi b/c it does not have the insignia anywhere obvious....
DH has been doing really well at work and he bought himself a $2,000+ old--school video game (circa 1980). This is his version of a handbag b/c it makes him so happy. I stay home with the baby everyday and work just as hard as him, so I asked him....if you can get the video game, can I get the handbag I've always dreamed of? He said yes. I bought it b/c I loved it the minute I saw it....it makes me happy...I bought it simply b/c I'm a girly girl and I have always wanted a really nice bag. It makes me feel pretty...kind of like a nice pair of shoes. After being at home all day with the baby I wanted something extravagant. Some of it may be a status thing, sure....but to me it signifies a place in my life where I can afford it and why not?
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Re: Why purchase a "real" bag?
thanks for being honest ladies.
my whole point was to show that everyone has their motivations behind buying something that is a status symbol.
one's motivations is not better than anothers, no matter how much they spend on it (and "fake" or "real")
it's part of a fantasy to own one.
you may not have Jessica Simpson's money, but if you save up enough you may be able to buy an accessory she owns....
or...for $30, you too can pretend to have what others have.
it's all pretense really.
I am sure very few of us are rolling in all aspects of our lives the way the rich and famous are.
which is why I try not to judge other's motivations for wanting a piece of that pie.
I have Prada glasses and D&G drawers and accessories. that's about as far into the pretense as I can allow myself to get.
according to some stardards, I do have the "means" to buy a bag for a few k...well, my husband does anyway  but like I said...living in an apt in BK doesn't "match" with such a bag....and that much pretense is too much for ME.
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Re: Why purchase a "real" bag?
Posted by Ophelia
which is why I try not to judge other's motivations for wanting a piece of that pie.
I have Prada glasses and D&G drawers and accessories. that's about as far into the pretense as I can allow myself to get.
try not to judge others? why would you start a post like this in the first place?
and how is owning prada glasses any different than owning a prada bag?
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Re: Why purchase a "real" bag?
Posted by sticklee
Posted by Ophelia
which is why I try not to judge other's motivations for wanting a piece of that pie.
I have Prada glasses and D&G drawers and accessories. that's about as far into the pretense as I can allow myself to get.
try not to judge others? why would you start a post like this in the first place?
and how is owning prada glasses any different than owning a prada bag?
I didn't say it was different.
and I don't think I said anything "judgmental" about those who buy designer anything, IMO.
the reason I started this thread is b/c I thought some of the responses on the other thread, especially regarding psychological reasons for wanting to be included in the "trend" could be extended to those who buy the real thing.
that was my intention, and my basic point.
I don't think anyone is wrong in either way.
how is this thread any different from the other one?
that is my point.
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Re: Why purchase a "real" bag?
Posted by Beth1210
besides all the reason why I think fakes are gross, wrong etc
the reason I love to buy "real" bags is simply b/c I like the style, they last for years, have resale value if I get sick of them
I still don't pay for price for most of the ones I have - except for a Gucci or LV
but there is nothing like going to the store, picking out the bag- having it wrapped up
it's an experince - I enjoy it, I can afford it- so I do it
I would never buy anything just b/c of the name- I have to love the bag and the style
Right on - and you are 100% correct on resale value. I sold not too long ago a used coach bag that was in the $300 range when i bought it. It sold for over $200!
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Re: Why purchase a "real" bag?
I don't buy luxury brand items. I can't afford them.
I do, however believe that you get what you pay for...to an extent. I don't buy anything with a logo plastered across it because it's obnoxious. I do like to get things that are of good quality and will last me longer than a couple of months or a year. I am very hard on my stuff. In order to do that, you have to spend a little money. I have never gotten a bag for $40 that has lasted me more than a couple of months before the lining ripped or it got worn on the handle. If I have to get a new bag every two months, that's 260 a year. I could have gotten one bag and had it last me all year and then some!
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Re: Why purchase a "real" bag?
according to some stardards, I do have the "means" to buy a bag for a few k...well, my husband does anyway but like I said...living in an apt in BK doesn't "match" with such a bag....and that much pretense is too much for ME.
I didn't realize there was a geographical connection with designer items
I didn't know you have to "match" you living arrangement with your clothing taste 
if anything- I find the opposite to be true- once I buy a house- something is going to have to give- either the fancy SUV, the shopping habit - so bacially I am stocking up now
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Ophelia
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Re: Why purchase a "real" bag?
Posted by Beth1210
I didn't know you have to "match" you living arrangement with your clothing taste
that's why I had the "for ME" at the end of that. it goes with my OCD.
I want to again reiterate that I find nothing wrong with buying whatever you like.
anyone. anything. be it real or fake.
I was simply posing the reverse to a question that was already posted. and that was to show the similarities.
not to judge anyone.
Posted by Beth1210
I didn't know you have to "match" you living arrangement with your clothing taste
to further elaborate on this...I feel I am in the Coach/BCBG/Laundry/Via Spiga and down in the world of clothes and shoes. based on my income, housing, debt, and car.
they are all roughly similarly priced.
there is too much gap between that and the Ferragamo I drool over.
but again...this is just ME. ME
and I never ever claimed to be normal
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Re: Why purchase a "real" bag?
Posted by Ophelia
to further elaborate on this...I feel I am in the Coach/BCBG/Laundry/Via Spiga and down in the world of clothes and shoes. based on my income, housing, debt, and car.
they are all roughly similarly priced.
there is too much gap between that and the Ferragamo I drool over.
but again...this is just ME. ME
and I never ever claimed to be normal
I agree with you.
Many people buy designer bags (that you see million-dollar-celebrities carrying) yet live paycheck to paycheck.
I don't fully understand that.
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Re: Why purchase a "real" bag?
I'll admit it, I'm a brand name whore when it comes to handbags.  I just like the high end luxury handbags more because I think the quality is better and most have more of a classic and timeless style to them. I can afford them so I can splurge, but if I couldn't I wouldn't buy them or a fake. I would feel silly walking around with a knockoff.
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Re: Why purchase a "real" bag?
Posted by Ophelia
and I think that once a bag is mass produced, originality goes out the window anyway. I dont' think it's original to own a real LV insignia bag to be honest. real or fake, they are everywhere.
version.
This is exactly how I feel, too. Besides the fact that I never saw anything "beautiful" about a ****-brown bag with Ls and Vs all over it--I feel like it's just ridiculous to spend so much money to own something that everyone else already has.
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Beth
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Re: Why purchase a "real" bag?
a real bag doesn't have to be a logo bag
most designers bags these days don't have logo all over them
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Re: Why purchase a "real" bag?
Posted by SupaBonBon
Posted by Ophelia
to further elaborate on this...I feel I am in the Coach/BCBG/Laundry/Via Spiga and down in the world of clothes and shoes. based on my income, housing, debt, and car.
they are all roughly similarly priced.
there is too much gap between that and the Ferragamo I drool over.
but again...this is just ME. ME
and I never ever claimed to be normal
I agree with you.
Many people buy designer bags (that you see million-dollar-celebrities carrying) yet live paycheck to paycheck.
I don't fully understand that.
I see it all the time-people carrying gucci bags and heaven forbides they dont get theri timesheet in-tears flow. Which is why I buy really high priced bags at bonus time only and my dooney &B's when they have leather bags I like on sale. I love saving money but I also have a designer bag addiction.
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Re: Why purchase a "real" bag?
Posted by Beth1210
besides all the reason why I think fakes are gross, wrong etc
the reason I love to buy "real" bags is simply b/c I like the style, they last for years, have resale value if I get sick of them
I still don't pay for price for most of the ones I have - except for a Gucci or LV
but there is nothing like going to the store, picking out the bag- having it wrapped up
it's an experince - I enjoy it, I can afford it- so I do it
I would never buy anything just b/c of the name- I have to love the bag and the style
I agree w/ beth totally.
I would feel really lame walking around with a "fake" bag. Random people ask if my bags are real. I would be embarrassed to say it was fake. I'd rather not have it at all.
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Re: Why purchase a "real" bag?
I think the "real" bags are definitely a status symbol. I cant tell you how many times I see people in the mall or on the streets with the same LV or Fendi bag. And this is JMHO they are not cute at all. Even if I could afford it I wouldnt buy them. Which is why I dont even buy the knock offs. If someone suddenly said that Guess bags where now the hottest trend , even hotter than LV you would see everyone rushing to get those. Those bags are just to show off how much money you have or claim that you have. I know people that have those bags that saved, saved, and saved to get it and cant even afford to pay their light bill or car note.
However to each its own you have to buy what you like and if you like the fake ones then buy it and if not then buy the real thing.
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Re: Why purchase a "real" bag?
For some people it is the idea that everyone has their vice. People who live paycheck to paycheck sometimes want to have the one thing that reminds them of a different lifestyle. For some of them it's as simple as getting their nails done, for some it is bags and for some it is a fancy car. The real problems arise when it is all of the above or when the addiction gets in the way of the rent.
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Re: Why purchase a "real" bag?
Posted by Ophelia
it's all pretense really.
pre•tense
1: a claim made or implied; especially: one not supported by fact
2 a: mere ostentation: pretentiousness b: a pretentious act or assertion
3: an inadequate or insincere attempt to attain a certain condition or quality
4: professed rather than real intention or purpose: pretext <was there under false pretenses>
5: make-believe, fiction
6: false show: simulation <saw through his pretense of indifference
I don't think the definition of pretense fits the motivation most ladies on this thread have in buying a bag. There's really nothing that's a 'fake show'. They love the bag, they buy the bag. It’s not implying they can and someone who doesn't can't, they just do their thing and go for the bag. I think saying its all pretense is saying everyone who buys one is being insincere and that's not true.
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Ophelia
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Re: Why purchase a "real" bag?
Posted by MrsBlueSash
Posted by Ophelia
it's all pretense really.
pre•tense
1: a claim made or implied; especially: one not supported by fact
2 a: mere ostentation: pretentiousness b: a pretentious act or assertion
3: an inadequate or insincere attempt to attain a certain condition or quality
4: professed rather than real intention or purpose: pretext <was there under false pretenses>
5: make-believe, fiction
6: false show: simulation <saw through his pretense of indifference
I don't think the definition of pretense fits the motivation most ladies on this thread have in buying a bag. There's really nothing that's a 'fake show'. They love the bag, they buy the bag. It’s not implying they can and someone who doesn't can't, they just do their thing and go for the bag. I think saying its all pretense is saying everyone who buys one is being insincere and that's not true.
I don't think they are being insincere at all.
but I think there is a certain amount of pretense in owning an item that is historically an item of the very rich.
I think there are few people posting on this board that fall into that category (as compared to stars and socialites that you most often see carrying a designer bag)
like I said, no matter the reason you bough the bag, there is an image PROJECTED to other people. and that is that you have the ching to afford that bag. THAT is, IMO where the pretense comes in. these bags give off the vibe of affluence...when the wearer of said bag MAY or MAY not be in fact affluent. whether the bag is purchased under a pretense is not really the point...the vibe is can be where the pretense comes in. and the point of this thread was purely to say that whether you buy real or fake, the reasons for doing so can be very similar...so we should not ask why and let people do what they wish.
affluence
A plentiful supply of material goods; wealth.
A great quantity; an abundance.
A flowing to or toward a point; afflux.
there is no mention of scrimping and saving or using coupons in this definition.
I think I am not able to express myself clearly since the point seems to be missed,
I'm sorry if I made anyone feel like they are insincere or prententious. that was not the point of this thread. the point is, it's not my business and I shouldn't be asking.
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Re: Why purchase a "real" bag?
Posted by Ophelia
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Posted by Ophelia
it's all pretense really.
to say that whether you buy real or fake, the reasons for doing so can be very similar...so we should not ask why and let people do what they wish.
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I agree that in many cases the reasons for buying real and the reasons for buying fake are the same. That point was not lost with me. I do think that the reasons themselves are interesting. The reasons sometimes say something about the person and maybe even about our society. I say "sometimes" because maybe in some cases the reason really is as simple as "I like and and I can afford it." If no one cared why, these threads would not be so long. Also, although I do take a live and let live attitude, I like to let people know things that they may not already know about the fake bag trade. Many of those bags are made in sweatshops where workers are exploited. I used to read a lot about sweatshops and I was very conscious about where I shopped. I wish I still had time to do that. I let people know what I learned back then and if they want to check whether it is still true, that's great. BTW--I would love to buy a well made bag from a true craftsman, as you mentioned.
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Re: Why purchase a "real" bag?
I don't see the difference between buying an expensive bag and buying a big screen LCD/plasma TV for $$$
Now, buying an expensive bag just because it's a status thing and you don't actually like the bag.... stupid!
I personally don't like the look of LV bags. I never did and probably never will. So, I won't buy the real or the knockoff.
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