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Aren't you the poster who started a thread the other day encouraging everyone to be kinder to each other?


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Re: California to require Covid vaccine for all students

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Pomegranate5

Posted by mxoxom2004

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by mxoxom2004

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by mxoxom2004

Good! It should be added to the schedule of mandatory vaccinations.

Why?
What data supports that for children?

Hospitalizations Associated with COVID-19 Among Children and Adolescents - COVID-NET, 14 States, March 1, 2020-August 14, 2021.

Although COVID-19-associated hospitalizations and deaths have occurred more frequently in adults, † COVID-19 can also lead to severe outcomes in children and adolescents (1,2). Schools are opening for in-person learning, and many prekindergarten children are returning to early care and education programs during a time when the number of COVID-19 cases caused by the highly transmissible B.1.617.2 (Delta) variant of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, is increasing. § Therefore, it is important to monitor indicators of severe COVID-19 among children and adolescents. This analysis uses Coronavirus Disease 2019-Associated Hospitalization Surveillance Network (COVID-NET) ¶ data to describe COVID-19-associated hospitalizations among U.S. children and adolescents aged 0-17 years.

During March 1, 2020-August 14, 2021, the cumulative incidence of COVID-19-associated hospitalizations was 49.7 per 100,000 children and adolescents. The weekly COVID-19-associated hospitalization rate per 100,000 children and adolescents during the week ending August 14, 2021 (1.4) was nearly five times the rate during the week ending June 26, 2021 (0.3); among children aged 0-4 years, the weekly hospitalization rate during the week ending August 14, 2021, was nearly 10 times that during the week ending June 26, 2021. ** During June 20-July 31, 2021, the hospitalization rate among unvaccinated adolescents (aged 12-17 years) was 10.1 times higher than that among fully vaccinated adolescents.

Among all hospitalized children and adolescents with COVID-19, the proportions with indicators of severe disease (such as intensive care unit [ICU] admission) after the Delta variant became predominant (June 20-July 31, 2021) were similar to those earlier in the pandemic (March 1, 2020-June 19, 2021). Implementation of preventive measures to reduce transmission and severe outcomes in children is critical, including vaccination of eligible persons, universal mask wearing in schools, recommended mask wearing by persons aged =2 years in other indoor public spaces and child care centers, †† and quarantining as recommended after exposure to persons with COVID-19. §§ .



Systemic Inflammation Is Associated With Neurologic Involvement in Pediatric Inflammatory Multisystem Syndrome Associated With SARS-CoV-2.
Objective: Pediatric inflammatory multisystem syndrome temporally associated with SARS-CoV-2 (PIMS-TS) is a severe immune-mediated disorder. We aim to report the neurologic features of children with PIMS-TS.
Methods: We identified children presenting to a large children's hospital with PIMS-TS from March to June 2020 and performed a retrospective medical note review, identifying clinical and investigative features alongside short-term outcome of children presenting with neurologic symptoms.
Results: Seventy-five patients with PIMS-TS were identified, 9 (12%) had neurologic involvement: altered conciseness (3), behavioral changes (3), focal neurology deficits (2), persistent headaches (2), hallucinations (2), excessive sleepiness (1), and new-onset focal seizures (1). Four patients had cranial images abnormalities. At 3-month follow-up, 1 child had died, 1 had hemiparesis, 3 had behavioral changes, and 4 completely recovered. Systemic inflammatory and prothrombotic markers were higher in patients with neurologic involvement (mean highest CRP 267 vs 202 mg/L, p = 0.05; procalcitonin 30.65 vs 13.11 µg/L, p = 0.04; fibrinogen 7.04 vs 6.17 g/L, p = 0.07; d-dimers 19.68 vs 7.35 mg/L, p = 0.005). Among patients with neurologic involvement, these markers were higher in those without full recovery at 3 months (ferritin 2284 vs 283 µg/L, p = 0.05; d-dimers 30.34 vs 6.37 mg/L, p = 0.04). Patients with and without neurologic involvement shared similar risk factors for PIMS-TS (Black, Asian and Minority Ethnic ethnicity 78% vs 70%, obese/overweight 56% vs 42%).
Conclusions: Broad neurologic features were found in 12% patients with PIMS-TS. By 3-month follow-up, half of these surviving children had recovered fully without neurologic impairment. Significantly higher systemic inflammatory markers were identified in children with neurologic involvement and in those who had not recovered fully.

And with all this it still should be the PARENT'S choice.
You're afraid? Vaccinate your kid.
Stay out of my decision for MY child.
And the Flu shot is not mandated. And I'm sure the numbers are similar for flu.
So why is the flu shot not mandated for school?
Any stats on that??

Why are you so hostile? You ask for studies then get all huffy when presented with them.

Stay out of my decision for MY child.
I never once mentioned your child and I don't recall ANYONE ever telling you that you HAVE TO vaccine your child. You are pretty clear about that. You don't have to mention it every 10 seconds.

You're afraid? Vaccinate your kid.
I'm not and I did.

You need to chill out. Seriously.

Aren't you the poster who started a thread the other day encouraging everyone to be kinder to each other?

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I don't think we will ever get the real data on the virus or the vaccine injury. Also I think the numbers can be manipulated to show what you want. If cases go from 5 to 10, wow 100% increase, but relative to the population can be very small. The chart by age good from the CDC, does show cases up from June but similar to the winter months.

https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/covidnet/COVID19_5.html

I still go back to if the vaccine works so well, then why worry about the unvaccinated, they made their choice and the vaccinated are protected. How can people feel good about making someone choose between taking a vaccine they do not want or losing their job or having to homeschool, things that will cause great hardship to people. If parents are so worried about the unvaccinated children in schools, they can also choose to homeschool and not force a new vaccine that may possibly cause long-term side effects.

Re: California to require Covid vaccine for all students

Posted by mxoxom2004

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Pomegranate5

Posted by mxoxom2004

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by mxoxom2004

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by mxoxom2004

Good! It should be added to the schedule of mandatory vaccinations.

Why?
What data supports that for children?

Hospitalizations Associated with COVID-19 Among Children and Adolescents - COVID-NET, 14 States, March 1, 2020-August 14, 2021.

Although COVID-19-associated hospitalizations and deaths have occurred more frequently in adults, † COVID-19 can also lead to severe outcomes in children and adolescents (1,2). Schools are opening for in-person learning, and many prekindergarten children are returning to early care and education programs during a time when the number of COVID-19 cases caused by the highly transmissible B.1.617.2 (Delta) variant of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, is increasing. § Therefore, it is important to monitor indicators of severe COVID-19 among children and adolescents. This analysis uses Coronavirus Disease 2019-Associated Hospitalization Surveillance Network (COVID-NET) ¶ data to describe COVID-19-associated hospitalizations among U.S. children and adolescents aged 0-17 years.

During March 1, 2020-August 14, 2021, the cumulative incidence of COVID-19-associated hospitalizations was 49.7 per 100,000 children and adolescents. The weekly COVID-19-associated hospitalization rate per 100,000 children and adolescents during the week ending August 14, 2021 (1.4) was nearly five times the rate during the week ending June 26, 2021 (0.3); among children aged 0-4 years, the weekly hospitalization rate during the week ending August 14, 2021, was nearly 10 times that during the week ending June 26, 2021. ** During June 20-July 31, 2021, the hospitalization rate among unvaccinated adolescents (aged 12-17 years) was 10.1 times higher than that among fully vaccinated adolescents.

Among all hospitalized children and adolescents with COVID-19, the proportions with indicators of severe disease (such as intensive care unit [ICU] admission) after the Delta variant became predominant (June 20-July 31, 2021) were similar to those earlier in the pandemic (March 1, 2020-June 19, 2021). Implementation of preventive measures to reduce transmission and severe outcomes in children is critical, including vaccination of eligible persons, universal mask wearing in schools, recommended mask wearing by persons aged =2 years in other indoor public spaces and child care centers, †† and quarantining as recommended after exposure to persons with COVID-19. §§ .



Systemic Inflammation Is Associated With Neurologic Involvement in Pediatric Inflammatory Multisystem Syndrome Associated With SARS-CoV-2.
Objective: Pediatric inflammatory multisystem syndrome temporally associated with SARS-CoV-2 (PIMS-TS) is a severe immune-mediated disorder. We aim to report the neurologic features of children with PIMS-TS.
Methods: We identified children presenting to a large children's hospital with PIMS-TS from March to June 2020 and performed a retrospective medical note review, identifying clinical and investigative features alongside short-term outcome of children presenting with neurologic symptoms.
Results: Seventy-five patients with PIMS-TS were identified, 9 (12%) had neurologic involvement: altered conciseness (3), behavioral changes (3), focal neurology deficits (2), persistent headaches (2), hallucinations (2), excessive sleepiness (1), and new-onset focal seizures (1). Four patients had cranial images abnormalities. At 3-month follow-up, 1 child had died, 1 had hemiparesis, 3 had behavioral changes, and 4 completely recovered. Systemic inflammatory and prothrombotic markers were higher in patients with neurologic involvement (mean highest CRP 267 vs 202 mg/L, p = 0.05; procalcitonin 30.65 vs 13.11 µg/L, p = 0.04; fibrinogen 7.04 vs 6.17 g/L, p = 0.07; d-dimers 19.68 vs 7.35 mg/L, p = 0.005). Among patients with neurologic involvement, these markers were higher in those without full recovery at 3 months (ferritin 2284 vs 283 µg/L, p = 0.05; d-dimers 30.34 vs 6.37 mg/L, p = 0.04). Patients with and without neurologic involvement shared similar risk factors for PIMS-TS (Black, Asian and Minority Ethnic ethnicity 78% vs 70%, obese/overweight 56% vs 42%).
Conclusions: Broad neurologic features were found in 12% patients with PIMS-TS. By 3-month follow-up, half of these surviving children had recovered fully without neurologic impairment. Significantly higher systemic inflammatory markers were identified in children with neurologic involvement and in those who had not recovered fully.

And with all this it still should be the PARENT'S choice.
You're afraid? Vaccinate your kid.
Stay out of my decision for MY child.
And the Flu shot is not mandated. And I'm sure the numbers are similar for flu.
So why is the flu shot not mandated for school?
Any stats on that??

Why are you so hostile? You ask for studies then get all huffy when presented with them.

Stay out of my decision for MY child.
I never once mentioned your child and I don't recall ANYONE ever telling you that you HAVE TO vaccine your child. You are pretty clear about that. You don't have to mention it every 10 seconds.

You're afraid? Vaccinate your kid.
I'm not and I did.

You need to chill out. Seriously.

Aren't you the poster who started a thread the other day encouraging everyone to be kinder to each other?

I'm not being unkind. I'm not saying your responses are "b**chy" like you posted the other day on another thread.

I'm simply try to convey that it is obvious that you are extremely passionate about your belief in parental choice and vaccine hesitancy in children. How is constantly posting about it over and over on LIF going to change a thing? take your voice to the people who actually have the power to enact a change. Go get'em girl!

And windy....if you don't have something bad constructive to add, zip it.

Message edited 10/4/2021 12:43:18 PM.

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Re: California to require Covid vaccine for all students

Re: California to require Covid vaccine for all students

Posted by mxoxom2004

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Pomegranate5

Posted by mxoxom2004

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by mxoxom2004

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by mxoxom2004

Good! It should be added to the schedule of mandatory vaccinations.

Why?
What data supports that for children?

Hospitalizations Associated with COVID-19 Among Children and Adolescents - COVID-NET, 14 States, March 1, 2020-August 14, 2021.

Although COVID-19-associated hospitalizations and deaths have occurred more frequently in adults, † COVID-19 can also lead to severe outcomes in children and adolescents (1,2). Schools are opening for in-person learning, and many prekindergarten children are returning to early care and education programs during a time when the number of COVID-19 cases caused by the highly transmissible B.1.617.2 (Delta) variant of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, is increasing. § Therefore, it is important to monitor indicators of severe COVID-19 among children and adolescents. This analysis uses Coronavirus Disease 2019-Associated Hospitalization Surveillance Network (COVID-NET) ¶ data to describe COVID-19-associated hospitalizations among U.S. children and adolescents aged 0-17 years.

During March 1, 2020-August 14, 2021, the cumulative incidence of COVID-19-associated hospitalizations was 49.7 per 100,000 children and adolescents. The weekly COVID-19-associated hospitalization rate per 100,000 children and adolescents during the week ending August 14, 2021 (1.4) was nearly five times the rate during the week ending June 26, 2021 (0.3); among children aged 0-4 years, the weekly hospitalization rate during the week ending August 14, 2021, was nearly 10 times that during the week ending June 26, 2021. ** During June 20-July 31, 2021, the hospitalization rate among unvaccinated adolescents (aged 12-17 years) was 10.1 times higher than that among fully vaccinated adolescents.

Among all hospitalized children and adolescents with COVID-19, the proportions with indicators of severe disease (such as intensive care unit [ICU] admission) after the Delta variant became predominant (June 20-July 31, 2021) were similar to those earlier in the pandemic (March 1, 2020-June 19, 2021). Implementation of preventive measures to reduce transmission and severe outcomes in children is critical, including vaccination of eligible persons, universal mask wearing in schools, recommended mask wearing by persons aged =2 years in other indoor public spaces and child care centers, †† and quarantining as recommended after exposure to persons with COVID-19. §§ .



Systemic Inflammation Is Associated With Neurologic Involvement in Pediatric Inflammatory Multisystem Syndrome Associated With SARS-CoV-2.
Objective: Pediatric inflammatory multisystem syndrome temporally associated with SARS-CoV-2 (PIMS-TS) is a severe immune-mediated disorder. We aim to report the neurologic features of children with PIMS-TS.
Methods: We identified children presenting to a large children's hospital with PIMS-TS from March to June 2020 and performed a retrospective medical note review, identifying clinical and investigative features alongside short-term outcome of children presenting with neurologic symptoms.
Results: Seventy-five patients with PIMS-TS were identified, 9 (12%) had neurologic involvement: altered conciseness (3), behavioral changes (3), focal neurology deficits (2), persistent headaches (2), hallucinations (2), excessive sleepiness (1), and new-onset focal seizures (1). Four patients had cranial images abnormalities. At 3-month follow-up, 1 child had died, 1 had hemiparesis, 3 had behavioral changes, and 4 completely recovered. Systemic inflammatory and prothrombotic markers were higher in patients with neurologic involvement (mean highest CRP 267 vs 202 mg/L, p = 0.05; procalcitonin 30.65 vs 13.11 µg/L, p = 0.04; fibrinogen 7.04 vs 6.17 g/L, p = 0.07; d-dimers 19.68 vs 7.35 mg/L, p = 0.005). Among patients with neurologic involvement, these markers were higher in those without full recovery at 3 months (ferritin 2284 vs 283 µg/L, p = 0.05; d-dimers 30.34 vs 6.37 mg/L, p = 0.04). Patients with and without neurologic involvement shared similar risk factors for PIMS-TS (Black, Asian and Minority Ethnic ethnicity 78% vs 70%, obese/overweight 56% vs 42%).
Conclusions: Broad neurologic features were found in 12% patients with PIMS-TS. By 3-month follow-up, half of these surviving children had recovered fully without neurologic impairment. Significantly higher systemic inflammatory markers were identified in children with neurologic involvement and in those who had not recovered fully.

And with all this it still should be the PARENT'S choice.
You're afraid? Vaccinate your kid.
Stay out of my decision for MY child.
And the Flu shot is not mandated. And I'm sure the numbers are similar for flu.
So why is the flu shot not mandated for school?
Any stats on that??

Why are you so hostile? You ask for studies then get all huffy when presented with them.

Stay out of my decision for MY child.
I never once mentioned your child and I don't recall ANYONE ever telling you that you HAVE TO vaccine your child. You are pretty clear about that. You don't have to mention it every 10 seconds.

You're afraid? Vaccinate your kid.
I'm not and I did.

You need to chill out. Seriously.

Aren't you the poster who started a thread the other day encouraging everyone to be kinder to each other?

I'm not being unkind. I'm not saying your responses are "b**chy" like you posted the other day on another thread.

I'm simply try to convey that it is obvious that you are extremely passionate about your belief in parental choice and vaccine hesitancy in children. How is constantly posting about it over and over on LIF going to change a thing? take your voice to the people who actually have the power to enact a change. Go get'em girl!

And windy....if you don't have something constructive to add, zip it.

Re: California to require Covid vaccine for all students

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by mxoxom2004

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Pomegranate5

Posted by mxoxom2004

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by mxoxom2004

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by mxoxom2004

Good! It should be added to the schedule of mandatory vaccinations.

Why?
What data supports that for children?

Hospitalizations Associated with COVID-19 Among Children and Adolescents - COVID-NET, 14 States, March 1, 2020-August 14, 2021.

Although COVID-19-associated hospitalizations and deaths have occurred more frequently in adults, † COVID-19 can also lead to severe outcomes in children and adolescents (1,2). Schools are opening for in-person learning, and many prekindergarten children are returning to early care and education programs during a time when the number of COVID-19 cases caused by the highly transmissible B.1.617.2 (Delta) variant of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, is increasing. § Therefore, it is important to monitor indicators of severe COVID-19 among children and adolescents. This analysis uses Coronavirus Disease 2019-Associated Hospitalization Surveillance Network (COVID-NET) ¶ data to describe COVID-19-associated hospitalizations among U.S. children and adolescents aged 0-17 years.

During March 1, 2020-August 14, 2021, the cumulative incidence of COVID-19-associated hospitalizations was 49.7 per 100,000 children and adolescents. The weekly COVID-19-associated hospitalization rate per 100,000 children and adolescents during the week ending August 14, 2021 (1.4) was nearly five times the rate during the week ending June 26, 2021 (0.3); among children aged 0-4 years, the weekly hospitalization rate during the week ending August 14, 2021, was nearly 10 times that during the week ending June 26, 2021. ** During June 20-July 31, 2021, the hospitalization rate among unvaccinated adolescents (aged 12-17 years) was 10.1 times higher than that among fully vaccinated adolescents.

Among all hospitalized children and adolescents with COVID-19, the proportions with indicators of severe disease (such as intensive care unit [ICU] admission) after the Delta variant became predominant (June 20-July 31, 2021) were similar to those earlier in the pandemic (March 1, 2020-June 19, 2021). Implementation of preventive measures to reduce transmission and severe outcomes in children is critical, including vaccination of eligible persons, universal mask wearing in schools, recommended mask wearing by persons aged =2 years in other indoor public spaces and child care centers, †† and quarantining as recommended after exposure to persons with COVID-19. §§ .



Systemic Inflammation Is Associated With Neurologic Involvement in Pediatric Inflammatory Multisystem Syndrome Associated With SARS-CoV-2.
Objective: Pediatric inflammatory multisystem syndrome temporally associated with SARS-CoV-2 (PIMS-TS) is a severe immune-mediated disorder. We aim to report the neurologic features of children with PIMS-TS.
Methods: We identified children presenting to a large children's hospital with PIMS-TS from March to June 2020 and performed a retrospective medical note review, identifying clinical and investigative features alongside short-term outcome of children presenting with neurologic symptoms.
Results: Seventy-five patients with PIMS-TS were identified, 9 (12%) had neurologic involvement: altered conciseness (3), behavioral changes (3), focal neurology deficits (2), persistent headaches (2), hallucinations (2), excessive sleepiness (1), and new-onset focal seizures (1). Four patients had cranial images abnormalities. At 3-month follow-up, 1 child had died, 1 had hemiparesis, 3 had behavioral changes, and 4 completely recovered. Systemic inflammatory and prothrombotic markers were higher in patients with neurologic involvement (mean highest CRP 267 vs 202 mg/L, p = 0.05; procalcitonin 30.65 vs 13.11 µg/L, p = 0.04; fibrinogen 7.04 vs 6.17 g/L, p = 0.07; d-dimers 19.68 vs 7.35 mg/L, p = 0.005). Among patients with neurologic involvement, these markers were higher in those without full recovery at 3 months (ferritin 2284 vs 283 µg/L, p = 0.05; d-dimers 30.34 vs 6.37 mg/L, p = 0.04). Patients with and without neurologic involvement shared similar risk factors for PIMS-TS (Black, Asian and Minority Ethnic ethnicity 78% vs 70%, obese/overweight 56% vs 42%).
Conclusions: Broad neurologic features were found in 12% patients with PIMS-TS. By 3-month follow-up, half of these surviving children had recovered fully without neurologic impairment. Significantly higher systemic inflammatory markers were identified in children with neurologic involvement and in those who had not recovered fully.

And with all this it still should be the PARENT'S choice.
You're afraid? Vaccinate your kid.
Stay out of my decision for MY child.
And the Flu shot is not mandated. And I'm sure the numbers are similar for flu.
So why is the flu shot not mandated for school?
Any stats on that??

Why are you so hostile? You ask for studies then get all huffy when presented with them.

Stay out of my decision for MY child.
I never once mentioned your child and I don't recall ANYONE ever telling you that you HAVE TO vaccine your child. You are pretty clear about that. You don't have to mention it every 10 seconds.

You're afraid? Vaccinate your kid.
I'm not and I did.

You need to chill out. Seriously.

Aren't you the poster who started a thread the other day encouraging everyone to be kinder to each other?

I'm not being unkind. I'm not saying your responses are "b**chy" like you posted the other day on another thread.

I'm simply try to convey that it is obvious that you are extremely passionate about your belief in parental choice and vaccine hesitancy in children. How is constantly posting about it over and over on LIF going to change a thing? take your voice to the people who actually have the power to enact a change. Go get'em girl!

And windy....if you don't have something constructive to add, zip it.

This WAS you, just a few days ago, right?

Seriously people. Enough already.

The nastiness.

The name-calling.

It's enough.

If you can't respond to a post without calling someone a b*tch, move on.

If you can't respond without insulting someone else's views, move on.

If you can't respond without being nasty, condescending or just plain rude, move on.

I know I probably have been guilty of all of the above in the past but recognize that these types of responses accomplish nothing.

These boards have always had drama but lately it's gone beyond that into a really dark place.

Enough already. Please.

Re: California to require Covid vaccine for all students

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by mxoxom2004

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Pomegranate5

Posted by mxoxom2004

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by mxoxom2004

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by mxoxom2004

Good! It should be added to the schedule of mandatory vaccinations.

Why?
What data supports that for children?

Hospitalizations Associated with COVID-19 Among Children and Adolescents - COVID-NET, 14 States, March 1, 2020-August 14, 2021.

Although COVID-19-associated hospitalizations and deaths have occurred more frequently in adults, † COVID-19 can also lead to severe outcomes in children and adolescents (1,2). Schools are opening for in-person learning, and many prekindergarten children are returning to early care and education programs during a time when the number of COVID-19 cases caused by the highly transmissible B.1.617.2 (Delta) variant of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, is increasing. § Therefore, it is important to monitor indicators of severe COVID-19 among children and adolescents. This analysis uses Coronavirus Disease 2019-Associated Hospitalization Surveillance Network (COVID-NET) ¶ data to describe COVID-19-associated hospitalizations among U.S. children and adolescents aged 0-17 years.

During March 1, 2020-August 14, 2021, the cumulative incidence of COVID-19-associated hospitalizations was 49.7 per 100,000 children and adolescents. The weekly COVID-19-associated hospitalization rate per 100,000 children and adolescents during the week ending August 14, 2021 (1.4) was nearly five times the rate during the week ending June 26, 2021 (0.3); among children aged 0-4 years, the weekly hospitalization rate during the week ending August 14, 2021, was nearly 10 times that during the week ending June 26, 2021. ** During June 20-July 31, 2021, the hospitalization rate among unvaccinated adolescents (aged 12-17 years) was 10.1 times higher than that among fully vaccinated adolescents.

Among all hospitalized children and adolescents with COVID-19, the proportions with indicators of severe disease (such as intensive care unit [ICU] admission) after the Delta variant became predominant (June 20-July 31, 2021) were similar to those earlier in the pandemic (March 1, 2020-June 19, 2021). Implementation of preventive measures to reduce transmission and severe outcomes in children is critical, including vaccination of eligible persons, universal mask wearing in schools, recommended mask wearing by persons aged =2 years in other indoor public spaces and child care centers, †† and quarantining as recommended after exposure to persons with COVID-19. §§ .



Systemic Inflammation Is Associated With Neurologic Involvement in Pediatric Inflammatory Multisystem Syndrome Associated With SARS-CoV-2.
Objective: Pediatric inflammatory multisystem syndrome temporally associated with SARS-CoV-2 (PIMS-TS) is a severe immune-mediated disorder. We aim to report the neurologic features of children with PIMS-TS.
Methods: We identified children presenting to a large children's hospital with PIMS-TS from March to June 2020 and performed a retrospective medical note review, identifying clinical and investigative features alongside short-term outcome of children presenting with neurologic symptoms.
Results: Seventy-five patients with PIMS-TS were identified, 9 (12%) had neurologic involvement: altered conciseness (3), behavioral changes (3), focal neurology deficits (2), persistent headaches (2), hallucinations (2), excessive sleepiness (1), and new-onset focal seizures (1). Four patients had cranial images abnormalities. At 3-month follow-up, 1 child had died, 1 had hemiparesis, 3 had behavioral changes, and 4 completely recovered. Systemic inflammatory and prothrombotic markers were higher in patients with neurologic involvement (mean highest CRP 267 vs 202 mg/L, p = 0.05; procalcitonin 30.65 vs 13.11 µg/L, p = 0.04; fibrinogen 7.04 vs 6.17 g/L, p = 0.07; d-dimers 19.68 vs 7.35 mg/L, p = 0.005). Among patients with neurologic involvement, these markers were higher in those without full recovery at 3 months (ferritin 2284 vs 283 µg/L, p = 0.05; d-dimers 30.34 vs 6.37 mg/L, p = 0.04). Patients with and without neurologic involvement shared similar risk factors for PIMS-TS (Black, Asian and Minority Ethnic ethnicity 78% vs 70%, obese/overweight 56% vs 42%).
Conclusions: Broad neurologic features were found in 12% patients with PIMS-TS. By 3-month follow-up, half of these surviving children had recovered fully without neurologic impairment. Significantly higher systemic inflammatory markers were identified in children with neurologic involvement and in those who had not recovered fully.

And with all this it still should be the PARENT'S choice.
You're afraid? Vaccinate your kid.
Stay out of my decision for MY child.
And the Flu shot is not mandated. And I'm sure the numbers are similar for flu.
So why is the flu shot not mandated for school?
Any stats on that??

Why are you so hostile? You ask for studies then get all huffy when presented with them.

Stay out of my decision for MY child.
I never once mentioned your child and I don't recall ANYONE ever telling you that you HAVE TO vaccine your child. You are pretty clear about that. You don't have to mention it every 10 seconds.

You're afraid? Vaccinate your kid.
I'm not and I did.

You need to chill out. Seriously.

Aren't you the poster who started a thread the other day encouraging everyone to be kinder to each other?

I'm not being unkind. I'm not saying your responses are "b**chy" like you posted the other day on another thread.

I'm simply try to convey that it is obvious that you are extremely passionate about your belief in parental choice and vaccine hesitancy in children. How is constantly posting about it over and over on LIF going to change a thing? take your voice to the people who actually have the power to enact a change. Go get'em girl!

And windy....if you don't have something constructive to add, zip it.

This WAS you, just a few days ago, right?

Seriously people. Enough already.

The nastiness.

The name-calling.

It's enough.

If you can't respond to a post without calling someone a b*tch, move on.

If you can't respond without insulting someone else's views, move on.

If you can't respond without being nasty, condescending or just plain rude, move on.

I know I probably have been guilty of all of the above in the past but recognize that these types of responses accomplish nothing.

These boards have always had drama but lately it's gone beyond that into a really dark place.

Enough already. Please.

Re: California to require Covid vaccine for all students

Posted by mxoxom2004

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by mxoxom2004

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Pomegranate5

Posted by mxoxom2004

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by mxoxom2004

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by mxoxom2004

Good! It should be added to the schedule of mandatory vaccinations.

Why?
What data supports that for children?

Hospitalizations Associated with COVID-19 Among Children and Adolescents - COVID-NET, 14 States, March 1, 2020-August 14, 2021.

Although COVID-19-associated hospitalizations and deaths have occurred more frequently in adults, † COVID-19 can also lead to severe outcomes in children and adolescents (1,2). Schools are opening for in-person learning, and many prekindergarten children are returning to early care and education programs during a time when the number of COVID-19 cases caused by the highly transmissible B.1.617.2 (Delta) variant of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, is increasing. § Therefore, it is important to monitor indicators of severe COVID-19 among children and adolescents. This analysis uses Coronavirus Disease 2019-Associated Hospitalization Surveillance Network (COVID-NET) ¶ data to describe COVID-19-associated hospitalizations among U.S. children and adolescents aged 0-17 years.

During March 1, 2020-August 14, 2021, the cumulative incidence of COVID-19-associated hospitalizations was 49.7 per 100,000 children and adolescents. The weekly COVID-19-associated hospitalization rate per 100,000 children and adolescents during the week ending August 14, 2021 (1.4) was nearly five times the rate during the week ending June 26, 2021 (0.3); among children aged 0-4 years, the weekly hospitalization rate during the week ending August 14, 2021, was nearly 10 times that during the week ending June 26, 2021. ** During June 20-July 31, 2021, the hospitalization rate among unvaccinated adolescents (aged 12-17 years) was 10.1 times higher than that among fully vaccinated adolescents.

Among all hospitalized children and adolescents with COVID-19, the proportions with indicators of severe disease (such as intensive care unit [ICU] admission) after the Delta variant became predominant (June 20-July 31, 2021) were similar to those earlier in the pandemic (March 1, 2020-June 19, 2021). Implementation of preventive measures to reduce transmission and severe outcomes in children is critical, including vaccination of eligible persons, universal mask wearing in schools, recommended mask wearing by persons aged =2 years in other indoor public spaces and child care centers, †† and quarantining as recommended after exposure to persons with COVID-19. §§ .



Systemic Inflammation Is Associated With Neurologic Involvement in Pediatric Inflammatory Multisystem Syndrome Associated With SARS-CoV-2.
Objective: Pediatric inflammatory multisystem syndrome temporally associated with SARS-CoV-2 (PIMS-TS) is a severe immune-mediated disorder. We aim to report the neurologic features of children with PIMS-TS.
Methods: We identified children presenting to a large children's hospital with PIMS-TS from March to June 2020 and performed a retrospective medical note review, identifying clinical and investigative features alongside short-term outcome of children presenting with neurologic symptoms.
Results: Seventy-five patients with PIMS-TS were identified, 9 (12%) had neurologic involvement: altered conciseness (3), behavioral changes (3), focal neurology deficits (2), persistent headaches (2), hallucinations (2), excessive sleepiness (1), and new-onset focal seizures (1). Four patients had cranial images abnormalities. At 3-month follow-up, 1 child had died, 1 had hemiparesis, 3 had behavioral changes, and 4 completely recovered. Systemic inflammatory and prothrombotic markers were higher in patients with neurologic involvement (mean highest CRP 267 vs 202 mg/L, p = 0.05; procalcitonin 30.65 vs 13.11 µg/L, p = 0.04; fibrinogen 7.04 vs 6.17 g/L, p = 0.07; d-dimers 19.68 vs 7.35 mg/L, p = 0.005). Among patients with neurologic involvement, these markers were higher in those without full recovery at 3 months (ferritin 2284 vs 283 µg/L, p = 0.05; d-dimers 30.34 vs 6.37 mg/L, p = 0.04). Patients with and without neurologic involvement shared similar risk factors for PIMS-TS (Black, Asian and Minority Ethnic ethnicity 78% vs 70%, obese/overweight 56% vs 42%).
Conclusions: Broad neurologic features were found in 12% patients with PIMS-TS. By 3-month follow-up, half of these surviving children had recovered fully without neurologic impairment. Significantly higher systemic inflammatory markers were identified in children with neurologic involvement and in those who had not recovered fully.

And with all this it still should be the PARENT'S choice.
You're afraid? Vaccinate your kid.
Stay out of my decision for MY child.
And the Flu shot is not mandated. And I'm sure the numbers are similar for flu.
So why is the flu shot not mandated for school?
Any stats on that??

Why are you so hostile? You ask for studies then get all huffy when presented with them.

Stay out of my decision for MY child.
I never once mentioned your child and I don't recall ANYONE ever telling you that you HAVE TO vaccine your child. You are pretty clear about that. You don't have to mention it every 10 seconds.

You're afraid? Vaccinate your kid.
I'm not and I did.

You need to chill out. Seriously.

Aren't you the poster who started a thread the other day encouraging everyone to be kinder to each other?

I'm not being unkind. I'm not saying your responses are "b**chy" like you posted the other day on another thread.

I'm simply try to convey that it is obvious that you are extremely passionate about your belief in parental choice and vaccine hesitancy in children. How is constantly posting about it over and over on LIF going to change a thing? take your voice to the people who actually have the power to enact a change. Go get'em girl!

And windy....if you don't have something constructive to add, zip it.

This WAS you, just a few days ago, right?

Seriously people. Enough already.

The nastiness.

The name-calling.

It's enough.

If you can't respond to a post without calling someone a b*tch, move on.

If you can't respond without insulting someone else's views, move on.

If you can't respond without being nasty, condescending or just plain rude, move on.

I know I probably have been guilty of all of the above in the past but recognize that these types of responses accomplish nothing.

These boards have always had drama but lately it's gone beyond that into a really dark place.

Enough already. Please.

The nastiness. Wasn't nasty.

The name-calling. Did call anyone a name.

It's enough.

If you can't respond to a post without calling someone a b*tch, move on. Didn't call anyone a B*tch.

If you can't respond without insulting someone else's views, move on. Didn't insult anyone's views.

If you can't respond without being nasty, condescending or just plain rude, move on. Wasn't nasty or condescending. May have been rude telling you to zip it but heck, can't be perfect.

Re: California to require Covid vaccine for all students

Posted by mommy2devin

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by mxoxom2004

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Pomegranate5

Posted by mxoxom2004

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by mxoxom2004

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by mxoxom2004

Good! It should be added to the schedule of mandatory vaccinations.

Why?
What data supports that for children?

Hospitalizations Associated with COVID-19 Among Children and Adolescents - COVID-NET, 14 States, March 1, 2020-August 14, 2021.

Although COVID-19-associated hospitalizations and deaths have occurred more frequently in adults, † COVID-19 can also lead to severe outcomes in children and adolescents (1,2). Schools are opening for in-person learning, and many prekindergarten children are returning to early care and education programs during a time when the number of COVID-19 cases caused by the highly transmissible B.1.617.2 (Delta) variant of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, is increasing. § Therefore, it is important to monitor indicators of severe COVID-19 among children and adolescents. This analysis uses Coronavirus Disease 2019-Associated Hospitalization Surveillance Network (COVID-NET) ¶ data to describe COVID-19-associated hospitalizations among U.S. children and adolescents aged 0-17 years.

During March 1, 2020-August 14, 2021, the cumulative incidence of COVID-19-associated hospitalizations was 49.7 per 100,000 children and adolescents. The weekly COVID-19-associated hospitalization rate per 100,000 children and adolescents during the week ending August 14, 2021 (1.4) was nearly five times the rate during the week ending June 26, 2021 (0.3); among children aged 0-4 years, the weekly hospitalization rate during the week ending August 14, 2021, was nearly 10 times that during the week ending June 26, 2021. ** During June 20-July 31, 2021, the hospitalization rate among unvaccinated adolescents (aged 12-17 years) was 10.1 times higher than that among fully vaccinated adolescents.

Among all hospitalized children and adolescents with COVID-19, the proportions with indicators of severe disease (such as intensive care unit [ICU] admission) after the Delta variant became predominant (June 20-July 31, 2021) were similar to those earlier in the pandemic (March 1, 2020-June 19, 2021). Implementation of preventive measures to reduce transmission and severe outcomes in children is critical, including vaccination of eligible persons, universal mask wearing in schools, recommended mask wearing by persons aged =2 years in other indoor public spaces and child care centers, †† and quarantining as recommended after exposure to persons with COVID-19. §§ .



Systemic Inflammation Is Associated With Neurologic Involvement in Pediatric Inflammatory Multisystem Syndrome Associated With SARS-CoV-2.
Objective: Pediatric inflammatory multisystem syndrome temporally associated with SARS-CoV-2 (PIMS-TS) is a severe immune-mediated disorder. We aim to report the neurologic features of children with PIMS-TS.
Methods: We identified children presenting to a large children's hospital with PIMS-TS from March to June 2020 and performed a retrospective medical note review, identifying clinical and investigative features alongside short-term outcome of children presenting with neurologic symptoms.
Results: Seventy-five patients with PIMS-TS were identified, 9 (12%) had neurologic involvement: altered conciseness (3), behavioral changes (3), focal neurology deficits (2), persistent headaches (2), hallucinations (2), excessive sleepiness (1), and new-onset focal seizures (1). Four patients had cranial images abnormalities. At 3-month follow-up, 1 child had died, 1 had hemiparesis, 3 had behavioral changes, and 4 completely recovered. Systemic inflammatory and prothrombotic markers were higher in patients with neurologic involvement (mean highest CRP 267 vs 202 mg/L, p = 0.05; procalcitonin 30.65 vs 13.11 µg/L, p = 0.04; fibrinogen 7.04 vs 6.17 g/L, p = 0.07; d-dimers 19.68 vs 7.35 mg/L, p = 0.005). Among patients with neurologic involvement, these markers were higher in those without full recovery at 3 months (ferritin 2284 vs 283 µg/L, p = 0.05; d-dimers 30.34 vs 6.37 mg/L, p = 0.04). Patients with and without neurologic involvement shared similar risk factors for PIMS-TS (Black, Asian and Minority Ethnic ethnicity 78% vs 70%, obese/overweight 56% vs 42%).
Conclusions: Broad neurologic features were found in 12% patients with PIMS-TS. By 3-month follow-up, half of these surviving children had recovered fully without neurologic impairment. Significantly higher systemic inflammatory markers were identified in children with neurologic involvement and in those who had not recovered fully.

And with all this it still should be the PARENT'S choice.
You're afraid? Vaccinate your kid.
Stay out of my decision for MY child.
And the Flu shot is not mandated. And I'm sure the numbers are similar for flu.
So why is the flu shot not mandated for school?
Any stats on that??

Why are you so hostile? You ask for studies then get all huffy when presented with them.

Stay out of my decision for MY child.
I never once mentioned your child and I don't recall ANYONE ever telling you that you HAVE TO vaccine your child. You are pretty clear about that. You don't have to mention it every 10 seconds.

You're afraid? Vaccinate your kid.
I'm not and I did.

You need to chill out. Seriously.

Aren't you the poster who started a thread the other day encouraging everyone to be kinder to each other?

I'm not being unkind. I'm not saying your responses are "b**chy" like you posted the other day on another thread.

I'm simply try to convey that it is obvious that you are extremely passionate about your belief in parental choice and vaccine hesitancy in children. How is constantly posting about it over and over on LIF going to change a thing? take your voice to the people who actually have the power to enact a change. Go get'em girl!

And windy....if you don't have something constructive to add, zip it.

This WAS you, just a few days ago, right?

Seriously people. Enough already.

The nastiness.

The name-calling.

It's enough.

If you can't respond to a post without calling someone a b*tch, move on.

If you can't respond without insulting someone else's views, move on.

If you can't respond without being nasty, condescending or just plain rude, move on.

I know I probably have been guilty of all of the above in the past but recognize that these types of responses accomplish nothing.

These boards have always had drama but lately it's gone beyond that into a really dark place.

Enough already. Please.

Where was the OP any of those things? OH, WAIT.. she was b/c she went against your opinions. Super Windy to the rescue.

Re: California to require Covid vaccine for all students

Re: California to require Covid vaccine for all students

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by mommy2devin

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by mxoxom2004

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Pomegranate5

Posted by mxoxom2004

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by mxoxom2004

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by mxoxom2004

Good! It should be added to the schedule of mandatory vaccinations.

Why?
What data supports that for children?

Hospitalizations Associated with COVID-19 Among Children and Adolescents - COVID-NET, 14 States, March 1, 2020-August 14, 2021.

Although COVID-19-associated hospitalizations and deaths have occurred more frequently in adults, † COVID-19 can also lead to severe outcomes in children and adolescents (1,2). Schools are opening for in-person learning, and many prekindergarten children are returning to early care and education programs during a time when the number of COVID-19 cases caused by the highly transmissible B.1.617.2 (Delta) variant of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, is increasing. § Therefore, it is important to monitor indicators of severe COVID-19 among children and adolescents. This analysis uses Coronavirus Disease 2019-Associated Hospitalization Surveillance Network (COVID-NET) ¶ data to describe COVID-19-associated hospitalizations among U.S. children and adolescents aged 0-17 years.

During March 1, 2020-August 14, 2021, the cumulative incidence of COVID-19-associated hospitalizations was 49.7 per 100,000 children and adolescents. The weekly COVID-19-associated hospitalization rate per 100,000 children and adolescents during the week ending August 14, 2021 (1.4) was nearly five times the rate during the week ending June 26, 2021 (0.3); among children aged 0-4 years, the weekly hospitalization rate during the week ending August 14, 2021, was nearly 10 times that during the week ending June 26, 2021. ** During June 20-July 31, 2021, the hospitalization rate among unvaccinated adolescents (aged 12-17 years) was 10.1 times higher than that among fully vaccinated adolescents.

Among all hospitalized children and adolescents with COVID-19, the proportions with indicators of severe disease (such as intensive care unit [ICU] admission) after the Delta variant became predominant (June 20-July 31, 2021) were similar to those earlier in the pandemic (March 1, 2020-June 19, 2021). Implementation of preventive measures to reduce transmission and severe outcomes in children is critical, including vaccination of eligible persons, universal mask wearing in schools, recommended mask wearing by persons aged =2 years in other indoor public spaces and child care centers, †† and quarantining as recommended after exposure to persons with COVID-19. §§ .



Systemic Inflammation Is Associated With Neurologic Involvement in Pediatric Inflammatory Multisystem Syndrome Associated With SARS-CoV-2.
Objective: Pediatric inflammatory multisystem syndrome temporally associated with SARS-CoV-2 (PIMS-TS) is a severe immune-mediated disorder. We aim to report the neurologic features of children with PIMS-TS.
Methods: We identified children presenting to a large children's hospital with PIMS-TS from March to June 2020 and performed a retrospective medical note review, identifying clinical and investigative features alongside short-term outcome of children presenting with neurologic symptoms.
Results: Seventy-five patients with PIMS-TS were identified, 9 (12%) had neurologic involvement: altered conciseness (3), behavioral changes (3), focal neurology deficits (2), persistent headaches (2), hallucinations (2), excessive sleepiness (1), and new-onset focal seizures (1). Four patients had cranial images abnormalities. At 3-month follow-up, 1 child had died, 1 had hemiparesis, 3 had behavioral changes, and 4 completely recovered. Systemic inflammatory and prothrombotic markers were higher in patients with neurologic involvement (mean highest CRP 267 vs 202 mg/L, p = 0.05; procalcitonin 30.65 vs 13.11 µg/L, p = 0.04; fibrinogen 7.04 vs 6.17 g/L, p = 0.07; d-dimers 19.68 vs 7.35 mg/L, p = 0.005). Among patients with neurologic involvement, these markers were higher in those without full recovery at 3 months (ferritin 2284 vs 283 µg/L, p = 0.05; d-dimers 30.34 vs 6.37 mg/L, p = 0.04). Patients with and without neurologic involvement shared similar risk factors for PIMS-TS (Black, Asian and Minority Ethnic ethnicity 78% vs 70%, obese/overweight 56% vs 42%).
Conclusions: Broad neurologic features were found in 12% patients with PIMS-TS. By 3-month follow-up, half of these surviving children had recovered fully without neurologic impairment. Significantly higher systemic inflammatory markers were identified in children with neurologic involvement and in those who had not recovered fully.

And with all this it still should be the PARENT'S choice.
You're afraid? Vaccinate your kid.
Stay out of my decision for MY child.
And the Flu shot is not mandated. And I'm sure the numbers are similar for flu.
So why is the flu shot not mandated for school?
Any stats on that??

Why are you so hostile? You ask for studies then get all huffy when presented with them.

Stay out of my decision for MY child.
I never once mentioned your child and I don't recall ANYONE ever telling you that you HAVE TO vaccine your child. You are pretty clear about that. You don't have to mention it every 10 seconds.

You're afraid? Vaccinate your kid.
I'm not and I did.

You need to chill out. Seriously.

Aren't you the poster who started a thread the other day encouraging everyone to be kinder to each other?

I'm not being unkind. I'm not saying your responses are "b**chy" like you posted the other day on another thread.

I'm simply try to convey that it is obvious that you are extremely passionate about your belief in parental choice and vaccine hesitancy in children. How is constantly posting about it over and over on LIF going to change a thing? take your voice to the people who actually have the power to enact a change. Go get'em girl!

And windy....if you don't have something constructive to add, zip it.

This WAS you, just a few days ago, right?

Seriously people. Enough already.

The nastiness.

The name-calling.

It's enough.

If you can't respond to a post without calling someone a b*tch, move on.

If you can't respond without insulting someone else's views, move on.

If you can't respond without being nasty, condescending or just plain rude, move on.

I know I probably have been guilty of all of the above in the past but recognize that these types of responses accomplish nothing.

These boards have always had drama but lately it's gone beyond that into a really dark place.

Enough already. Please.

Where was the OP any of those things? OH, WAIT.. she was b/c she went against your opinions. Super Windy to the rescue.

Huh? Proofreading needs to be done to this post.

Re: California to require Covid vaccine for all students

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by mommy2devin

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by mxoxom2004

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Pomegranate5

Posted by mxoxom2004

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by mxoxom2004

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by mxoxom2004

Good! It should be added to the schedule of mandatory vaccinations.

Why?
What data supports that for children?

Hospitalizations Associated with COVID-19 Among Children and Adolescents - COVID-NET, 14 States, March 1, 2020-August 14, 2021.

Although COVID-19-associated hospitalizations and deaths have occurred more frequently in adults, † COVID-19 can also lead to severe outcomes in children and adolescents (1,2). Schools are opening for in-person learning, and many prekindergarten children are returning to early care and education programs during a time when the number of COVID-19 cases caused by the highly transmissible B.1.617.2 (Delta) variant of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, is increasing. § Therefore, it is important to monitor indicators of severe COVID-19 among children and adolescents. This analysis uses Coronavirus Disease 2019-Associated Hospitalization Surveillance Network (COVID-NET) ¶ data to describe COVID-19-associated hospitalizations among U.S. children and adolescents aged 0-17 years.

During March 1, 2020-August 14, 2021, the cumulative incidence of COVID-19-associated hospitalizations was 49.7 per 100,000 children and adolescents. The weekly COVID-19-associated hospitalization rate per 100,000 children and adolescents during the week ending August 14, 2021 (1.4) was nearly five times the rate during the week ending June 26, 2021 (0.3); among children aged 0-4 years, the weekly hospitalization rate during the week ending August 14, 2021, was nearly 10 times that during the week ending June 26, 2021. ** During June 20-July 31, 2021, the hospitalization rate among unvaccinated adolescents (aged 12-17 years) was 10.1 times higher than that among fully vaccinated adolescents.

Among all hospitalized children and adolescents with COVID-19, the proportions with indicators of severe disease (such as intensive care unit [ICU] admission) after the Delta variant became predominant (June 20-July 31, 2021) were similar to those earlier in the pandemic (March 1, 2020-June 19, 2021). Implementation of preventive measures to reduce transmission and severe outcomes in children is critical, including vaccination of eligible persons, universal mask wearing in schools, recommended mask wearing by persons aged =2 years in other indoor public spaces and child care centers, †† and quarantining as recommended after exposure to persons with COVID-19. §§ .



Systemic Inflammation Is Associated With Neurologic Involvement in Pediatric Inflammatory Multisystem Syndrome Associated With SARS-CoV-2.
Objective: Pediatric inflammatory multisystem syndrome temporally associated with SARS-CoV-2 (PIMS-TS) is a severe immune-mediated disorder. We aim to report the neurologic features of children with PIMS-TS.
Methods: We identified children presenting to a large children's hospital with PIMS-TS from March to June 2020 and performed a retrospective medical note review, identifying clinical and investigative features alongside short-term outcome of children presenting with neurologic symptoms.
Results: Seventy-five patients with PIMS-TS were identified, 9 (12%) had neurologic involvement: altered conciseness (3), behavioral changes (3), focal neurology deficits (2), persistent headaches (2), hallucinations (2), excessive sleepiness (1), and new-onset focal seizures (1). Four patients had cranial images abnormalities. At 3-month follow-up, 1 child had died, 1 had hemiparesis, 3 had behavioral changes, and 4 completely recovered. Systemic inflammatory and prothrombotic markers were higher in patients with neurologic involvement (mean highest CRP 267 vs 202 mg/L, p = 0.05; procalcitonin 30.65 vs 13.11 µg/L, p = 0.04; fibrinogen 7.04 vs 6.17 g/L, p = 0.07; d-dimers 19.68 vs 7.35 mg/L, p = 0.005). Among patients with neurologic involvement, these markers were higher in those without full recovery at 3 months (ferritin 2284 vs 283 µg/L, p = 0.05; d-dimers 30.34 vs 6.37 mg/L, p = 0.04). Patients with and without neurologic involvement shared similar risk factors for PIMS-TS (Black, Asian and Minority Ethnic ethnicity 78% vs 70%, obese/overweight 56% vs 42%).
Conclusions: Broad neurologic features were found in 12% patients with PIMS-TS. By 3-month follow-up, half of these surviving children had recovered fully without neurologic impairment. Significantly higher systemic inflammatory markers were identified in children with neurologic involvement and in those who had not recovered fully.

And with all this it still should be the PARENT'S choice.
You're afraid? Vaccinate your kid.
Stay out of my decision for MY child.
And the Flu shot is not mandated. And I'm sure the numbers are similar for flu.
So why is the flu shot not mandated for school?
Any stats on that??

Why are you so hostile? You ask for studies then get all huffy when presented with them.

Stay out of my decision for MY child.
I never once mentioned your child and I don't recall ANYONE ever telling you that you HAVE TO vaccine your child. You are pretty clear about that. You don't have to mention it every 10 seconds.

You're afraid? Vaccinate your kid.
I'm not and I did.

You need to chill out. Seriously.

Aren't you the poster who started a thread the other day encouraging everyone to be kinder to each other?

I'm not being unkind. I'm not saying your responses are "b**chy" like you posted the other day on another thread.

I'm simply try to convey that it is obvious that you are extremely passionate about your belief in parental choice and vaccine hesitancy in children. How is constantly posting about it over and over on LIF going to change a thing? take your voice to the people who actually have the power to enact a change. Go get'em girl!

And windy....if you don't have something constructive to add, zip it.

This WAS you, just a few days ago, right?

Seriously people. Enough already.

The nastiness.

The name-calling.

It's enough.

If you can't respond to a post without calling someone a b*tch, move on.

If you can't respond without insulting someone else's views, move on.

If you can't respond without being nasty, condescending or just plain rude, move on.

I know I probably have been guilty of all of the above in the past but recognize that these types of responses accomplish nothing.

These boards have always had drama but lately it's gone beyond that into a really dark place.

Enough already. Please.

Where was the OP any of those things? OH, WAIT.. she was b/c she went against your opinions. Super Windy to the rescue.

Huh? Proofreading needs to be done to this post.

California to require Covid vaccine for all students

Listen - the big issue is here...

Those who don't want to vaccinate their children against Covid aren't mandating that those who want to can't vaccinate.

If my DH didn't get really sick after being vaccinated (almost ended up calling himself an ambulance in the middle of the night) we'd be possibly more open to vaccinating our children.

I just don't understand why it should be mandated that kids get a vaccine for something that they can still get anyway for an illness that 99% of them recover from quickly. Most kids I know who have had it were back to normal within 24 hours (and the worst part of the whole thing was having to complete a quarantine).

If it would be guaranteed to end the pandemic than yes - mandates would make some sense but... especially when everything is still evolving, it's hard for many to justify a mandate.

Re: California to require Covid vaccine for all students

Posted by mxoxom2004

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by mommy2devin

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by mxoxom2004

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Pomegranate5

Posted by mxoxom2004

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by mxoxom2004

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by mxoxom2004

Good! It should be added to the schedule of mandatory vaccinations.

Why?
What data supports that for children?

Hospitalizations Associated with COVID-19 Among Children and Adolescents - COVID-NET, 14 States, March 1, 2020-August 14, 2021.

Although COVID-19-associated hospitalizations and deaths have occurred more frequently in adults, † COVID-19 can also lead to severe outcomes in children and adolescents (1,2). Schools are opening for in-person learning, and many prekindergarten children are returning to early care and education programs during a time when the number of COVID-19 cases caused by the highly transmissible B.1.617.2 (Delta) variant of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, is increasing. § Therefore, it is important to monitor indicators of severe COVID-19 among children and adolescents. This analysis uses Coronavirus Disease 2019-Associated Hospitalization Surveillance Network (COVID-NET) ¶ data to describe COVID-19-associated hospitalizations among U.S. children and adolescents aged 0-17 years.

During March 1, 2020-August 14, 2021, the cumulative incidence of COVID-19-associated hospitalizations was 49.7 per 100,000 children and adolescents. The weekly COVID-19-associated hospitalization rate per 100,000 children and adolescents during the week ending August 14, 2021 (1.4) was nearly five times the rate during the week ending June 26, 2021 (0.3); among children aged 0-4 years, the weekly hospitalization rate during the week ending August 14, 2021, was nearly 10 times that during the week ending June 26, 2021. ** During June 20-July 31, 2021, the hospitalization rate among unvaccinated adolescents (aged 12-17 years) was 10.1 times higher than that among fully vaccinated adolescents.

Among all hospitalized children and adolescents with COVID-19, the proportions with indicators of severe disease (such as intensive care unit [ICU] admission) after the Delta variant became predominant (June 20-July 31, 2021) were similar to those earlier in the pandemic (March 1, 2020-June 19, 2021). Implementation of preventive measures to reduce transmission and severe outcomes in children is critical, including vaccination of eligible persons, universal mask wearing in schools, recommended mask wearing by persons aged =2 years in other indoor public spaces and child care centers, †† and quarantining as recommended after exposure to persons with COVID-19. §§ .



Systemic Inflammation Is Associated With Neurologic Involvement in Pediatric Inflammatory Multisystem Syndrome Associated With SARS-CoV-2.
Objective: Pediatric inflammatory multisystem syndrome temporally associated with SARS-CoV-2 (PIMS-TS) is a severe immune-mediated disorder. We aim to report the neurologic features of children with PIMS-TS.
Methods: We identified children presenting to a large children's hospital with PIMS-TS from March to June 2020 and performed a retrospective medical note review, identifying clinical and investigative features alongside short-term outcome of children presenting with neurologic symptoms.
Results: Seventy-five patients with PIMS-TS were identified, 9 (12%) had neurologic involvement: altered conciseness (3), behavioral changes (3), focal neurology deficits (2), persistent headaches (2), hallucinations (2), excessive sleepiness (1), and new-onset focal seizures (1). Four patients had cranial images abnormalities. At 3-month follow-up, 1 child had died, 1 had hemiparesis, 3 had behavioral changes, and 4 completely recovered. Systemic inflammatory and prothrombotic markers were higher in patients with neurologic involvement (mean highest CRP 267 vs 202 mg/L, p = 0.05; procalcitonin 30.65 vs 13.11 µg/L, p = 0.04; fibrinogen 7.04 vs 6.17 g/L, p = 0.07; d-dimers 19.68 vs 7.35 mg/L, p = 0.005). Among patients with neurologic involvement, these markers were higher in those without full recovery at 3 months (ferritin 2284 vs 283 µg/L, p = 0.05; d-dimers 30.34 vs 6.37 mg/L, p = 0.04). Patients with and without neurologic involvement shared similar risk factors for PIMS-TS (Black, Asian and Minority Ethnic ethnicity 78% vs 70%, obese/overweight 56% vs 42%).
Conclusions: Broad neurologic features were found in 12% patients with PIMS-TS. By 3-month follow-up, half of these surviving children had recovered fully without neurologic impairment. Significantly higher systemic inflammatory markers were identified in children with neurologic involvement and in those who had not recovered fully.

And with all this it still should be the PARENT'S choice.
You're afraid? Vaccinate your kid.
Stay out of my decision for MY child.
And the Flu shot is not mandated. And I'm sure the numbers are similar for flu.
So why is the flu shot not mandated for school?
Any stats on that??

Why are you so hostile? You ask for studies then get all huffy when presented with them.

Stay out of my decision for MY child.
I never once mentioned your child and I don't recall ANYONE ever telling you that you HAVE TO vaccine your child. You are pretty clear about that. You don't have to mention it every 10 seconds.

You're afraid? Vaccinate your kid.
I'm not and I did.

You need to chill out. Seriously.

Aren't you the poster who started a thread the other day encouraging everyone to be kinder to each other?

I'm not being unkind. I'm not saying your responses are "b**chy" like you posted the other day on another thread.

I'm simply try to convey that it is obvious that you are extremely passionate about your belief in parental choice and vaccine hesitancy in children. How is constantly posting about it over and over on LIF going to change a thing? take your voice to the people who actually have the power to enact a change. Go get'em girl!

And windy....if you don't have something constructive to add, zip it.

This WAS you, just a few days ago, right?

Seriously people. Enough already.

The nastiness.

The name-calling.

It's enough.

If you can't respond to a post without calling someone a b*tch, move on.

If you can't respond without insulting someone else's views, move on.

If you can't respond without being nasty, condescending or just plain rude, move on.

I know I probably have been guilty of all of the above in the past but recognize that these types of responses accomplish nothing.

These boards have always had drama but lately it's gone beyond that into a really dark place.

Enough already. Please.

Where was the OP any of those things? OH, WAIT.. she was b/c she went against your opinions. Super Windy to the rescue.

Huh? Proofreading needs to be done to this post.

I wasn’t rude to Nell. We debated.

You I was a teeeeeeeeny bit rude. My bad.

However, your snarky response to the above poster just illustrates the general milieu of the boards and it’s just not necessary.

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