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NervousNell
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Re: Does anyone else find this ridiculous... remote learning
This is not directed at the OP at all but reading some of the reasons parents keep kids home makes me really fear for the work ethic and responsibility level of the future work force.
These parents are not doing their kids any favors by allowing them to stay home for some of the reasons listed in this thread.
Fostering laziness and no sense of responsibility starts young
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Re: Does anyone else find this ridiculous... remote learning
Posted by NervousNell
This is not directed at the OP at all but reading some of the reasons parents keep kids home makes me really fear for the work ethic and responsibility level of the future work force.
These parents are not doing their kids any favors by allowing them to stay home for some of the reasons listed in this thread.
Fostering laziness and no sense of responsibility starts young
OMG...I was thinking the same thing. Parents need to stop making excuses.
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Re: Does anyone else find this ridiculous... remote learning
Posted by NervousNell
This is not directed at the OP at all but reading some of the reasons parents keep kids home makes me really fear for the work ethic and responsibility level of the future work force.
These parents are not doing their kids any favors by allowing them to stay home for some of the reasons listed in this thread.
Fostering laziness and no sense of responsibility starts young
Could you imagine our parents back in the day saying half of these excuses? We are such a lazy and entitled generation. Rules are rules....follow them. Everyone wants to be the exception to the rule. It may not seem like a lot but when everyone thinks they should be the exception it becomes a lot of extra work!
I can’t imagine when these kids enter the workforce.
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Re: Does anyone else find this ridiculous... remote learning
Posted by NervousNell
This is not directed at the OP at all but reading some of the reasons parents keep kids home makes me really fear for the work ethic and responsibility level of the future work force.
These parents are not doing their kids any favors by allowing them to stay home for some of the reasons listed in this thread.
Fostering laziness and no sense of responsibility starts young
What's worse is the parents allowing their kids to stay home so that they can blatantly cheat. What is that teaching them?
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Re: Does anyone else find this ridiculous... remote learning
My oldest stayed home a couple of times this year when he woke up not feeling great on the days he was scheduled to be in person. He was well enough to log in for most of his classes, but definitely shouldn’t have been in school in case he had a stomach bug or something else contagious. In those situations, I was glad he had the option of being remote and got credit for being in school.
If people abuse the privilege, it should be taken away, but I don’t necessarily agree with a blanket rule removing the ability to be remote and counted as present for everyone. Some of the reasons listed in the thread are ridiculous so I can understand why a school would take away the privilege. I also don’t think kids should be allowed to go on vacation for a week and join classes remotely.
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itsbabytime
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Re: Does anyone else find this ridiculous... remote learning
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Posted by NervousNell
This is not directed at the OP at all but reading some of the reasons parents keep kids home makes me really fear for the work ethic and responsibility level of the future work force.
These parents are not doing their kids any favors by allowing them to stay home for some of the reasons listed in this thread.
Fostering laziness and no sense of responsibility starts young
What's worse is the parents allowing their kids to stay home so that they can blatantly cheat. What is that teaching them?
Do you know what it is like for these fully remote kids when 95 percent of their grade has returned to school? Do you know how it feels for them to see all of their peers living life normally and having fun in school while they stare at a screen all day???? To have their teacher totally ignored them because they have a class full of kids? I could go on and on! Do you think any kid would choose staring at a screen all.day.long over being with their friends in school and having a normal life just to cheat?!!
Most kids I know on full remote would love to be in school and are home due to some personal household/family issues. Issues which you clearly cannot imagine and should therefore consider yourself blessed . It is heartbreaking the year these kids have had in the fishbowl of being fully remote.
Most teachers in my district have changed the format of the tests to make cheating much harder. Most teachers have made tests open book, all essays and under extreme time constraints.
Do you think cheating doesn’t happen IN school? Before this year when teachers had to make new remote tests the kids with older siblings were literally skating through on cheating. Tutors were giving their students the tests in advance! Cheating is not exclusive to being remote and it’s ridiculous to pretend it is.
Finally, if you are so convinced the fully remote kids have such an advantage - why don’t you pull your children out of school and put your child on full remote?!! You have the option just like everyone else! But I think we know the answer why.
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Re: Does anyone else find this ridiculous... remote learning
Posted by itsbabytime
Posted by lululu
Posted by NervousNell
This is not directed at the OP at all but reading some of the reasons parents keep kids home makes me really fear for the work ethic and responsibility level of the future work force.
These parents are not doing their kids any favors by allowing them to stay home for some of the reasons listed in this thread.
Fostering laziness and no sense of responsibility starts young
What's worse is the parents allowing their kids to stay home so that they can blatantly cheat. What is that teaching them?
Do you know what it is like for these fully remote kids when 95 percent of their grade has returned to school? Do you know how it feels for them to see all of their peers living life normally and having fun in school while they stare at a screen all day???? To have their teacher totally ignored them because they have a class full of kids? I could go on and on! Do you think any kid would choose staring at a screen all.day.long over being with their friends in school and having a normal life just to cheat?!!
Most kids I know on full remote would love to be in school and are home due to some personal household/family issues. Issues which you clearly cannot imagine and should therefore consider yourself blessed . It is heartbreaking the year these kids have had in the fishbowl of being fully remote.
Most teachers in my district have changed the format of the tests to make cheating much harder. Most teachers have made tests open book, all essays and under extreme time constraints.
Do you think cheating doesn’t happen IN school? Before this year when teachers had to make new remote tests the kids with older siblings were literally skating through on cheating. Tutors were giving their students the tests in advance! Cheating is not exclusive to being remote and it’s ridiculous to pretend it is.
Finally, if you are so convinced the fully remote kids have such an advantage - why don’t you pull your children out of school and put your child on full remote?!! You have the option just like everyone else! But I think we know the answer why.
Holy Jesus I never once was talking about fully remote kids! Lol. I am primarily talking about the kids that happen to go remote only on test days.
You need to get a grip!
And yeah I wouldn’t pull my kid and have him go full remote so he could cheat. That’s absurd. When he was hybrid I told him if I caught him cheating in any way shape or form I would tell his teachers
And btw it’s very easy to cheat remote. The kids even showed me how they do it. Luckily for me my son is basically a genius and doesn’t need to cheat so I don’t really need to worry.
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JennP
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Re: Does anyone else find this ridiculous... remote learning
Posted by itsbabytime
Posted by lululu
Posted by NervousNell
This is not directed at the OP at all but reading some of the reasons parents keep kids home makes me really fear for the work ethic and responsibility level of the future work force.
These parents are not doing their kids any favors by allowing them to stay home for some of the reasons listed in this thread.
Fostering laziness and no sense of responsibility starts young
What's worse is the parents allowing their kids to stay home so that they can blatantly cheat. What is that teaching them?
Do you know what it is like for these fully remote kids when 95 percent of their grade has returned to school? Do you know how it feels for them to see all of their peers living life normally and having fun in school while they stare at a screen all day???? To have their teacher totally ignored them because they have a class full of kids? I could go on and on! Do you think any kid would choose staring at a screen all.day.long over being with their friends in school and having a normal life just to cheat?!!
Most kids I know on full remote would love to be in school and are home due to some personal household/family issues. Issues which you clearly cannot imagine and should therefore consider yourself blessed . It is heartbreaking the year these kids have had in the fishbowl of being fully remote.
Most teachers in my district have changed the format of the tests to make cheating much harder. Most teachers have made tests open book, all essays and under extreme time constraints.
Do you think cheating doesn’t happen IN school? Before this year when teachers had to make new remote tests the kids with older siblings were literally skating through on cheating. Tutors were giving their students the tests in advance! Cheating is not exclusive to being remote and it’s ridiculous to pretend it is.
Finally, if you are so convinced the fully remote kids have such an advantage - why don’t you pull your children out of school and put your child on full remote?!! You have the option just like everyone else! But I think we know the answer why.
This thread is not about fully remote students, though. It's about parents who pull their kids out for random days for whatever reasons and the effect that has on the various stakeholders.
I am not either of the posters you quoted but when you put what they said in the context of the thread, your reply seems disjointed.
I could be wrong but I took the remote student cheating comment to mean a parent might keep their kid home for the day to cheat. Not keep them fully remote to cheat. Either way, I don't see how it's debatable that that is morally wrong.
No one is saying fully remote is sunshine and roses or that they have an advantage. In fact, I thought that was one thing pretty much everyone on here agreed on. Kids do better in school.
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itsbabytime
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Re: Does anyone else find this ridiculous... remote learning
Posted by lululu
Posted by itsbabytime
Posted by lululu
Posted by NervousNell
This is not directed at the OP at all but reading some of the reasons parents keep kids home makes me really fear for the work ethic and responsibility level of the future work force.
These parents are not doing their kids any favors by allowing them to stay home for some of the reasons listed in this thread.
Fostering laziness and no sense of responsibility starts young
What's worse is the parents allowing their kids to stay home so that they can blatantly cheat. What is that teaching them?
Do you know what it is like for these fully remote kids when 95 percent of their grade has returned to school? Do you know how it feels for them to see all of their peers living life normally and having fun in school while they stare at a screen all day???? To have their teacher totally ignored them because they have a class full of kids? I could go on and on! Do you think any kid would choose staring at a screen all.day.long over being with their friends in school and having a normal life just to cheat?!!
Most kids I know on full remote would love to be in school and are home due to some personal household/family issues. Issues which you clearly cannot imagine and should therefore consider yourself blessed . It is heartbreaking the year these kids have had in the fishbowl of being fully remote.
Most teachers in my district have changed the format of the tests to make cheating much harder. Most teachers have made tests open book, all essays and under extreme time constraints.
Do you think cheating doesn’t happen IN school? Before this year when teachers had to make new remote tests the kids with older siblings were literally skating through on cheating. Tutors were giving their students the tests in advance! Cheating is not exclusive to being remote and it’s ridiculous to pretend it is.
Finally, if you are so convinced the fully remote kids have such an advantage - why don’t you pull your children out of school and put your child on full remote?!! You have the option just like everyone else! But I think we know the answer why.
Holy Jesus I never once was talking about fully remote kids! Lol. I am primarily talking about the kids that happen to go remote only on test days.
You need to get a grip!
And yeah I wouldn’t pull my kid and have him go full remote so he could cheat. That’s absurd. When he was hybrid I told him if I caught him cheating in any way shape or form I would tell his teachers
And btw it’s very easy to cheat remote. The kids even showed me how they do it. Luckily for me my son is basically a genius and doesn’t need to cheat so I don’t really need to worry.
Hmmm... if your son is such a genius then why are you so concerned about the cheating kids that you have repeatedly posted about it? If he’s doing so fantastic then why do you care what these other kids are doing should make no difference to you!
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Re: Does anyone else find this ridiculous... remote learning
Posted by JennP
Posted by itsbabytime
Posted by lululu
Posted by NervousNell
This is not directed at the OP at all but reading some of the reasons parents keep kids home makes me really fear for the work ethic and responsibility level of the future work force.
These parents are not doing their kids any favors by allowing them to stay home for some of the reasons listed in this thread.
Fostering laziness and no sense of responsibility starts young
What's worse is the parents allowing their kids to stay home so that they can blatantly cheat. What is that teaching them?
Do you know what it is like for these fully remote kids when 95 percent of their grade has returned to school? Do you know how it feels for them to see all of their peers living life normally and having fun in school while they stare at a screen all day???? To have their teacher totally ignored them because they have a class full of kids? I could go on and on! Do you think any kid would choose staring at a screen all.day.long over being with their friends in school and having a normal life just to cheat?!!
Most kids I know on full remote would love to be in school and are home due to some personal household/family issues. Issues which you clearly cannot imagine and should therefore consider yourself blessed . It is heartbreaking the year these kids have had in the fishbowl of being fully remote.
Most teachers in my district have changed the format of the tests to make cheating much harder. Most teachers have made tests open book, all essays and under extreme time constraints.
Do you think cheating doesn’t happen IN school? Before this year when teachers had to make new remote tests the kids with older siblings were literally skating through on cheating. Tutors were giving their students the tests in advance! Cheating is not exclusive to being remote and it’s ridiculous to pretend it is.
Finally, if you are so convinced the fully remote kids have such an advantage - why don’t you pull your children out of school and put your child on full remote?!! You have the option just like everyone else! But I think we know the answer why.
This thread is not about fully remote students, though. It's about parents who pull their kids out for random days for whatever reasons and the effect that has on the various stakeholders.
I am not either of the posters you quoted but when you put what they said in the context of the thread, your reply seems disjointed.
I could be wrong but I took the remote student cheating comment to mean a parent might keep their kid home for the day to cheat. Not keep them fully remote to cheat. Either way, I don't see how it's debatable that that is morally wrong.
No one is saying fully remote is sunshine and roses or that they have an advantage. In fact, I thought that was one thing pretty much everyone on here agreed on. Kids do better in school.
Yes exactly. I already replied but it’s about the kid who only happens to need to e remote on test days. It’s really crazy and it’s happening a lot! Our school has invested a ton in software to detect cheating and they still have east ways to get around it. These kids are smart! Not sure why they don’t expend more energy studying instead of figuring out ways to cheat.
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itsbabytime
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Re: Does anyone else find this ridiculous... remote learning
Posted by JennP
Posted by itsbabytime
Posted by lululu
Posted by NervousNell
This is not directed at the OP at all but reading some of the reasons parents keep kids home makes me really fear for the work ethic and responsibility level of the future work force.
These parents are not doing their kids any favors by allowing them to stay home for some of the reasons listed in this thread.
Fostering laziness and no sense of responsibility starts young
What's worse is the parents allowing their kids to stay home so that they can blatantly cheat. What is that teaching them?
Do you know what it is like for these fully remote kids when 95 percent of their grade has returned to school? Do you know how it feels for them to see all of their peers living life normally and having fun in school while they stare at a screen all day???? To have their teacher totally ignored them because they have a class full of kids? I could go on and on! Do you think any kid would choose staring at a screen all.day.long over being with their friends in school and having a normal life just to cheat?!!
Most kids I know on full remote would love to be in school and are home due to some personal household/family issues. Issues which you clearly cannot imagine and should therefore consider yourself blessed . It is heartbreaking the year these kids have had in the fishbowl of being fully remote.
Most teachers in my district have changed the format of the tests to make cheating much harder. Most teachers have made tests open book, all essays and under extreme time constraints.
Do you think cheating doesn’t happen IN school? Before this year when teachers had to make new remote tests the kids with older siblings were literally skating through on cheating. Tutors were giving their students the tests in advance! Cheating is not exclusive to being remote and it’s ridiculous to pretend it is.
Finally, if you are so convinced the fully remote kids have such an advantage - why don’t you pull your children out of school and put your child on full remote?!! You have the option just like everyone else! But I think we know the answer why.
This thread is not about fully remote students, though. It's about parents who pull their kids out for random days for whatever reasons and the effect that has on the various stakeholders.
I am not either of the posters you quoted but when you put what they said in the context of the thread, your reply seems disjointed.
I could be wrong but I took the remote student cheating comment to mean a parent might keep their kid home for the day to cheat. Not keep them fully remote to cheat. Either way, I don't see how it's debatable that that is morally wrong.
No one is saying fully remote is sunshine and roses or that they have an advantage. In fact, I thought that was one thing pretty much everyone on here agreed on. Kids do better in school.
In my district at this point in the year, you cannot just keep your kid your kid home for one day to cheat on a test. I’m surprised any school would allow this ans that it wouldn’t be totally obvious. Either you are remote or in school unless you are quarantined . That’s where my response came from.
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Re: Does anyone else find this ridiculous... remote learning
Posted by itsbabytime
Posted by lululu
Posted by itsbabytime
Posted by lululu
Posted by NervousNell
This is not directed at the OP at all but reading some of the reasons parents keep kids home makes me really fear for the work ethic and responsibility level of the future work force.
These parents are not doing their kids any favors by allowing them to stay home for some of the reasons listed in this thread.
Fostering laziness and no sense of responsibility starts young
What's worse is the parents allowing their kids to stay home so that they can blatantly cheat. What is that teaching them?
Do you know what it is like for these fully remote kids when 95 percent of their grade has returned to school? Do you know how it feels for them to see all of their peers living life normally and having fun in school while they stare at a screen all day???? To have their teacher totally ignored them because they have a class full of kids? I could go on and on! Do you think any kid would choose staring at a screen all.day.long over being with their friends in school and having a normal life just to cheat?!!
Most kids I know on full remote would love to be in school and are home due to some personal household/family issues. Issues which you clearly cannot imagine and should therefore consider yourself blessed . It is heartbreaking the year these kids have had in the fishbowl of being fully remote.
Most teachers in my district have changed the format of the tests to make cheating much harder. Most teachers have made tests open book, all essays and under extreme time constraints.
Do you think cheating doesn’t happen IN school? Before this year when teachers had to make new remote tests the kids with older siblings were literally skating through on cheating. Tutors were giving their students the tests in advance! Cheating is not exclusive to being remote and it’s ridiculous to pretend it is.
Finally, if you are so convinced the fully remote kids have such an advantage - why don’t you pull your children out of school and put your child on full remote?!! You have the option just like everyone else! But I think we know the answer why.
Holy Jesus I never once was talking about fully remote kids! Lol. I am primarily talking about the kids that happen to go remote only on test days.
You need to get a grip!
And yeah I wouldn’t pull my kid and have him go full remote so he could cheat. That’s absurd. When he was hybrid I told him if I caught him cheating in any way shape or form I would tell his teachers
And btw it’s very easy to cheat remote. The kids even showed me how they do it. Luckily for me my son is basically a genius and doesn’t need to cheat so I don’t really need to worry.
Hmmm... if your son is such a genius then why are you so concerned about the cheating kids that you have repeatedly posted about it? If he’s doing so fantastic then why do you care what these other kids are doing should make no difference to you!
Ha this is funny. My son is only in 7th grade so TBH I don’t really care who is cheating but I think parents allowing their kids to cheat is disgusting. There are tons of people in my town doing it. It’s crazy. It makes me worried about society as a whole that people are just such azz holes. My son is only in 7th but he’s taking a lot of 9th grade classes which is the only reason I know about it. Most 7th graders don’t have pressure to cheat.
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Re: Does anyone else find this ridiculous... remote learning
Posted by itsbabytime
Posted by JennP
Posted by itsbabytime
Posted by lululu
Posted by NervousNell
This is not directed at the OP at all but reading some of the reasons parents keep kids home makes me really fear for the work ethic and responsibility level of the future work force.
These parents are not doing their kids any favors by allowing them to stay home for some of the reasons listed in this thread.
Fostering laziness and no sense of responsibility starts young
What's worse is the parents allowing their kids to stay home so that they can blatantly cheat. What is that teaching them?
Do you know what it is like for these fully remote kids when 95 percent of their grade has returned to school? Do you know how it feels for them to see all of their peers living life normally and having fun in school while they stare at a screen all day???? To have their teacher totally ignored them because they have a class full of kids? I could go on and on! Do you think any kid would choose staring at a screen all.day.long over being with their friends in school and having a normal life just to cheat?!!
Most kids I know on full remote would love to be in school and are home due to some personal household/family issues. Issues which you clearly cannot imagine and should therefore consider yourself blessed . It is heartbreaking the year these kids have had in the fishbowl of being fully remote.
Most teachers in my district have changed the format of the tests to make cheating much harder. Most teachers have made tests open book, all essays and under extreme time constraints.
Do you think cheating doesn’t happen IN school? Before this year when teachers had to make new remote tests the kids with older siblings were literally skating through on cheating. Tutors were giving their students the tests in advance! Cheating is not exclusive to being remote and it’s ridiculous to pretend it is.
Finally, if you are so convinced the fully remote kids have such an advantage - why don’t you pull your children out of school and put your child on full remote?!! You have the option just like everyone else! But I think we know the answer why.
This thread is not about fully remote students, though. It's about parents who pull their kids out for random days for whatever reasons and the effect that has on the various stakeholders.
I am not either of the posters you quoted but when you put what they said in the context of the thread, your reply seems disjointed.
I could be wrong but I took the remote student cheating comment to mean a parent might keep their kid home for the day to cheat. Not keep them fully remote to cheat. Either way, I don't see how it's debatable that that is morally wrong.
No one is saying fully remote is sunshine and roses or that they have an advantage. In fact, I thought that was one thing pretty much everyone on here agreed on. Kids do better in school.
In my district at this point in the year, you cannot just keep your kid your kid home for one day to cheat on a test. I’m surprised any school would allow this ans that it wouldn’t be totally obvious. Either you are remote or in school unless you are quarantined . That’s where my response came from.
My district was still hybrid until this week. We will see if things change now.
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itsbabytime
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Re: Does anyone else find this ridiculous... remote learning
Posted by lululu
Posted by itsbabytime
Posted by lululu
Posted by itsbabytime
Posted by lululu
Posted by NervousNell
This is not directed at the OP at all but reading some of the reasons parents keep kids home makes me really fear for the work ethic and responsibility level of the future work force.
These parents are not doing their kids any favors by allowing them to stay home for some of the reasons listed in this thread.
Fostering laziness and no sense of responsibility starts young
What's worse is the parents allowing their kids to stay home so that they can blatantly cheat. What is that teaching them?
Do you know what it is like for these fully remote kids when 95 percent of their grade has returned to school? Do you know how it feels for them to see all of their peers living life normally and having fun in school while they stare at a screen all day???? To have their teacher totally ignored them because they have a class full of kids? I could go on and on! Do you think any kid would choose staring at a screen all.day.long over being with their friends in school and having a normal life just to cheat?!!
Most kids I know on full remote would love to be in school and are home due to some personal household/family issues. Issues which you clearly cannot imagine and should therefore consider yourself blessed . It is heartbreaking the year these kids have had in the fishbowl of being fully remote.
Most teachers in my district have changed the format of the tests to make cheating much harder. Most teachers have made tests open book, all essays and under extreme time constraints.
Do you think cheating doesn’t happen IN school? Before this year when teachers had to make new remote tests the kids with older siblings were literally skating through on cheating. Tutors were giving their students the tests in advance! Cheating is not exclusive to being remote and it’s ridiculous to pretend it is.
Finally, if you are so convinced the fully remote kids have such an advantage - why don’t you pull your children out of school and put your child on full remote?!! You have the option just like everyone else! But I think we know the answer why.
Holy Jesus I never once was talking about fully remote kids! Lol. I am primarily talking about the kids that happen to go remote only on test days.
You need to get a grip!
And yeah I wouldn’t pull my kid and have him go full remote so he could cheat. That’s absurd. When he was hybrid I told him if I caught him cheating in any way shape or form I would tell his teachers
And btw it’s very easy to cheat remote. The kids even showed me how they do it. Luckily for me my son is basically a genius and doesn’t need to cheat so I don’t really need to worry.
Hmmm... if your son is such a genius then why are you so concerned about the cheating kids that you have repeatedly posted about it? If he’s doing so fantastic then why do you care what these other kids are doing should make no difference to you!
Ha this is funny. My son is only in 7th grade so TBH I don’t really care who is cheating but I think parents allowing their kids to cheat is disgusting. There are tons of people in my town doing it. It’s crazy. It makes me worried about society as a whole that people are just such azz holes. My son is only in 7th but he’s taking a lot of 9th grade classes which is the only reason I know about it. Most 7th graders don’t have pressure to cheat.
I totally agree with you and this honestly sounds completely nonsensical. How could a school not realize tons of kids staying home only on testing days just to cheat?
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lululu
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Re: Does anyone else find this ridiculous... remote learning
Posted by itsbabytime
Posted by lululu
Posted by itsbabytime
Posted by lululu
Posted by itsbabytime
Posted by lululu
Posted by NervousNell
This is not directed at the OP at all but reading some of the reasons parents keep kids home makes me really fear for the work ethic and responsibility level of the future work force.
These parents are not doing their kids any favors by allowing them to stay home for some of the reasons listed in this thread.
Fostering laziness and no sense of responsibility starts young
What's worse is the parents allowing their kids to stay home so that they can blatantly cheat. What is that teaching them?
Do you know what it is like for these fully remote kids when 95 percent of their grade has returned to school? Do you know how it feels for them to see all of their peers living life normally and having fun in school while they stare at a screen all day???? To have their teacher totally ignored them because they have a class full of kids? I could go on and on! Do you think any kid would choose staring at a screen all.day.long over being with their friends in school and having a normal life just to cheat?!!
Most kids I know on full remote would love to be in school and are home due to some personal household/family issues. Issues which you clearly cannot imagine and should therefore consider yourself blessed . It is heartbreaking the year these kids have had in the fishbowl of being fully remote.
Most teachers in my district have changed the format of the tests to make cheating much harder. Most teachers have made tests open book, all essays and under extreme time constraints.
Do you think cheating doesn’t happen IN school? Before this year when teachers had to make new remote tests the kids with older siblings were literally skating through on cheating. Tutors were giving their students the tests in advance! Cheating is not exclusive to being remote and it’s ridiculous to pretend it is.
Finally, if you are so convinced the fully remote kids have such an advantage - why don’t you pull your children out of school and put your child on full remote?!! You have the option just like everyone else! But I think we know the answer why.
Holy Jesus I never once was talking about fully remote kids! Lol. I am primarily talking about the kids that happen to go remote only on test days.
You need to get a grip!
And yeah I wouldn’t pull my kid and have him go full remote so he could cheat. That’s absurd. When he was hybrid I told him if I caught him cheating in any way shape or form I would tell his teachers
And btw it’s very easy to cheat remote. The kids even showed me how they do it. Luckily for me my son is basically a genius and doesn’t need to cheat so I don’t really need to worry.
Hmmm... if your son is such a genius then why are you so concerned about the cheating kids that you have repeatedly posted about it? If he’s doing so fantastic then why do you care what these other kids are doing should make no difference to you!
Ha this is funny. My son is only in 7th grade so TBH I don’t really care who is cheating but I think parents allowing their kids to cheat is disgusting. There are tons of people in my town doing it. It’s crazy. It makes me worried about society as a whole that people are just such azz holes. My son is only in 7th but he’s taking a lot of 9th grade classes which is the only reason I know about it. Most 7th graders don’t have pressure to cheat.
I totally agree with you and this honestly sounds completely nonsensical. How could a school not realize tons of kids staying home only on testing days just to cheat?
TBH I wouldn’t be surprised if the school was turning a blind eye because it’s that type of district.
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Diane
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Re: Does anyone else find this ridiculous... remote learning
This issue is already being discussed as we are looking at finals. Our school has already said if kids are in school, and decide to stay home on the day of a final, they will NOT be allowed to take it at home. There will be make-up days for the absence.
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KarenK122
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Does anyone else find this ridiculous... remote learning
I really don't see how the schools aren't getting a handle on cheating. When they are doing a test here, their cameras have to be on. The teachers or TAs in the class would see if they keep looking away at something. They also use Go Guardian which can view everything a student is doing, including the tabs open on their screens so if someone was trying to look something up, they would know and the teachers have the access to close those tabs. Now of course, some kids will find their way around that but those are the ones would would have probably cheated in person as well.
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Re: Does anyone else find this ridiculous... remote learning
Posted by KarenK122
I really don't see how the schools aren't getting a handle on cheating. When they are doing a test here, their cameras have to be on. The teachers or TAs in the class would see if they keep looking away at something. They also use Go Guardian which can view everything a student is doing, including the tabs open on their screens so if someone was trying to look something up, they would know and the teachers have the access to close those tabs. Now of course, some kids will find their way around that but those are the ones would would have probably cheated in person as well.
The kids are good at it - they can outsmart adults when it comes to technology. They actually had a college aged kid on the today show who showed a ton of ways that kids get around things like Go Guardian. It was funny because the Today Show hosts were like "probably not so smart of him to come on national television and admit to cheating" but the point was everyone is doing it nowadays.
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Re: Does anyone else find this ridiculous... remote learning
Posted by lululu
Posted by KarenK122
I really don't see how the schools aren't getting a handle on cheating. When they are doing a test here, their cameras have to be on. The teachers or TAs in the class would see if they keep looking away at something. They also use Go Guardian which can view everything a student is doing, including the tabs open on their screens so if someone was trying to look something up, they would know and the teachers have the access to close those tabs. Now of course, some kids will find their way around that but those are the ones would would have probably cheated in person as well.
The kids are good at it - they can outsmart adults when it comes to technology. They actually had a college aged kid on the today show who showed a ton of ways that kids get around things like Go Guardian. It was funny because the Today Show hosts were like "probably not so smart of him to come on national television and admit to cheating" but the point was everyone is doing it nowadays.
The way around that Go Guardian is to have another device- say an ipad- that's not related to your school account- that you can use to look up answers.
I thought that up in 2 minutes and I'm old.
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Re: Does anyone else find this ridiculous... remote learning
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by lululu
Posted by KarenK122
I really don't see how the schools aren't getting a handle on cheating. When they are doing a test here, their cameras have to be on. The teachers or TAs in the class would see if they keep looking away at something. They also use Go Guardian which can view everything a student is doing, including the tabs open on their screens so if someone was trying to look something up, they would know and the teachers have the access to close those tabs. Now of course, some kids will find their way around that but those are the ones would would have probably cheated in person as well.
The kids are good at it - they can outsmart adults when it comes to technology. They actually had a college aged kid on the today show who showed a ton of ways that kids get around things like Go Guardian. It was funny because the Today Show hosts were like "probably not so smart of him to come on national television and admit to cheating" but the point was everyone is doing it nowadays.
The way around that Go Guardian is to have another device- say an ipad- that's not related to your school account- that you can use to look up answers.
I thought that up in 2 minutes and I'm old.
Yeah but it's videoing you and tracking your eye movements so you need to put the device right in front of your screen. Either way exams should be mandatory in person unless you are full remote and even then they need to have something better than just Go Guardian.
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Re: Does anyone else find this ridiculous... remote learning
Posted by lululu
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by lululu
Posted by KarenK122
I really don't see how the schools aren't getting a handle on cheating. When they are doing a test here, their cameras have to be on. The teachers or TAs in the class would see if they keep looking away at something. They also use Go Guardian which can view everything a student is doing, including the tabs open on their screens so if someone was trying to look something up, they would know and the teachers have the access to close those tabs. Now of course, some kids will find their way around that but those are the ones would would have probably cheated in person as well.
The kids are good at it - they can outsmart adults when it comes to technology. They actually had a college aged kid on the today show who showed a ton of ways that kids get around things like Go Guardian. It was funny because the Today Show hosts were like "probably not so smart of him to come on national television and admit to cheating" but the point was everyone is doing it nowadays.
The way around that Go Guardian is to have another device- say an ipad- that's not related to your school account- that you can use to look up answers.
I thought that up in 2 minutes and I'm old.
Yeah but it's videoing you and tracking your eye movements so you need to put the device right in front of your screen. Either way exams should be mandatory in person unless you are full remote and even then they need to have something better than just Go Guardian.
Yes. And schools need to be open, full time, for all, starting in the Fall Enough of this nonsense.
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Re: Does anyone else find this ridiculous... remote learning
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by lululu
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by lululu
Posted by KarenK122
I really don't see how the schools aren't getting a handle on cheating. When they are doing a test here, their cameras have to be on. The teachers or TAs in the class would see if they keep looking away at something. They also use Go Guardian which can view everything a student is doing, including the tabs open on their screens so if someone was trying to look something up, they would know and the teachers have the access to close those tabs. Now of course, some kids will find their way around that but those are the ones would would have probably cheated in person as well.
The kids are good at it - they can outsmart adults when it comes to technology. They actually had a college aged kid on the today show who showed a ton of ways that kids get around things like Go Guardian. It was funny because the Today Show hosts were like "probably not so smart of him to come on national television and admit to cheating" but the point was everyone is doing it nowadays.
The way around that Go Guardian is to have another device- say an ipad- that's not related to your school account- that you can use to look up answers.
I thought that up in 2 minutes and I'm old.
Yeah but it's videoing you and tracking your eye movements so you need to put the device right in front of your screen. Either way exams should be mandatory in person unless you are full remote and even then they need to have something better than just Go Guardian.
Yes. And schools need to be open, full time, for all, starting in the Fall Enough of this nonsense.
I think that everyone will be back in my district starting Monday K-12. They have been phasing everyone back in. My son was jumping for joy when he found out he got to go back full time. The one positive is that it really made kids appreciate going to school! At least for a second...
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