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Xelindrya
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Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?

well Hrmph

one story on it.. im sure there's more

another....

I think (could be wrong) President Ford had his kids taken the swine flu shot back in the 70's but maybe Obama thinks its just not 'right' for his kids?

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This does not change my opinion about not taking the shot. I've been clear on that before now, but I must admit this makes me a little angry.

They talk today about how the swine flu is a National crisis.. but somehow the elite such as Obama's family need not worry?

Interesting example he sets.

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Posted 10/26/09 10:36 AM
 
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Re: Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?

President Obama's school age daughters have not been vaccinated against the H1N1 flu virus. White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs says the vaccine is not available to them based on their risk.



Actually, based on this it seems as if they DID get the shot, it would be wrong b/c he would be using his influence to get it for them.

It says that children with certain conditions are getting it first. They are healthy.

Posted 10/26/09 10:39 AM
 

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Re: Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?

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President Obama's school age daughters have not been vaccinated against the H1N1 flu virus. White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs says the vaccine is not available to them based on their risk.



Actually, based on this it seems as if they DID get the shot, it would be wrong b/c he would be using his influence to get it for them.

It says that children with certain conditions are getting it first. They are healthy.



I agree. Most of our kids probably are not eligible for the shot at this point.

Posted 10/26/09 10:41 AM
 

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Re: Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?

Posted by Tilde

President Obama's school age daughters have not been vaccinated against the H1N1 flu virus. White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs says the vaccine is not available to them based on their risk.



Actually, based on this it seems as if they DID get the shot, it would be wrong b/c he would be using his influence to get it for them.

It says that children with certain conditions are getting it first. They are healthy.



exactly. My niece has the swine flu right now. She is a typically healthy 12 y/o and while she is sick she is recovering well from it.

Posted 10/26/09 10:45 AM
 

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Re: Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?

Posted by Tilde

President Obama's school age daughters have not been vaccinated against the H1N1 flu virus. White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs says the vaccine is not available to them based on their risk.



Actually, based on this it seems as if they DID get the shot, it would be wrong b/c he would be using his influence to get it for them.

It says that children with certain conditions are getting it first. They are healthy.



I agree too...

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Posted 10/26/09 10:45 AM
 

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Posted by Xelindrya

This does not change my opinion about not taking the shot. I've been clear on that before now, but I must admit this makes me a little angry.

They talk today about how the swine flu is a National crisis.. but somehow the elite such as Obama's family need not worry?

Interesting example he sets.

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I don't get why you would be angry? He has recognized it as a national crisis, however as a parent he still has the right to make decisions about whether or not his children get an immunization.

If he was mandating that people get the shot & his kids didn't get it, then I'd see your point.

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President Obama's school age daughters have not been vaccinated against the H1N1 flu virus. White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs says the vaccine is not available to them based on their risk.



Actually, based on this it seems as if they DID get the shot, it would be wrong b/c he would be using his influence to get it for them.

It says that children with certain conditions are getting it first. They are healthy.



If anything this makes me think he is dealing with this more even-handed. If his kids got it, I can't even imagine the outcry that he got preferential treament when there are kids with higher risk factors waiting.

Posted 10/26/09 10:48 AM
 

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Re: Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?

Wow- Fox News is really reaching here. Must be a slow news day since they obviously have nothing else to harp on the President about.

I mean the article is 2 small paragraphs and the only information given is that they haven't been vaccinated and the vaccine is only available for those at high risk. Considering the shortage in availability the vaccine is only offered to the most critical in the high risk groups.

I have a student with a heart condition who has been unable to receive the vaccine due to unavailability-and she's in the highest risk group. She's currently being home schooled until she can get it.

I should think with others in more need that the Obama girls haven't been vaccinated yet.

Posted 10/26/09 10:49 AM
 

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Re: Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?

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Posted by Xelindrya

This does not change my opinion about not taking the shot. I've been clear on that before now, but I must admit this makes me a little angry.

They talk today about how the swine flu is a National crisis.. but somehow the elite such as Obama's family need not worry?

Interesting example he sets.

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I don't get why you would be angry? He has recognized it as a national crisis, however as a parent he still has the right to make decisions about whether or not his children get an immunization.

If he was mandating that people get the shot & his kids didn't get it, then I'd see your point.




me too?

Posted 10/26/09 10:55 AM
 

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Re: Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?

My point is the pressure for everyone to get the shot is nearly at a frenzy.

again i stress i am not changing my position (yet)

But if i were 'thinking' of it, it seems that this pushes that if your child is healthy then there's no reason for you to get the vaccination.

Right?

So my cousin 4, my coworkers kids 8, 11, 14 and my brother 38 are just flukes?

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Only one got hospitalized (my brother) the rest it was just a flu, a bad one, sure, but still not horrible.

None could take the swine flu shot as it was not available - I'll be honest about that.

So I feel this is big brother using the American people's fear to push this on to us. I can't help but feel angry that the man in charge of selling this snake oil to us isnt giving it to this children.

Posted 10/26/09 10:58 AM
 

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Re: Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?

Personally, the only thing I care about as a parent is having the *choice* on whether or not my son gets it.

The president is not my moral compass or my parenting mentor. He is free to decide as a parent what is right for his children. As others have said, it seems like it's not available for his kids right now anyway. I took my DS in for a regular flu shot and was told it wasn't available about a month ago, so who knows if they could have even received the vaccine a while ago.

Posted 10/26/09 11:00 AM
 

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Re: Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?

I guess you just dont see it as I do.

It's not worth starting an argument about. You just dont understand what I'm trying to say and I'm not about to go stepping on folks toes trying to make myself clear so I'll just drop it.

If you get it, then fine.

If not, nothing I can ever say will make sense to you about it so we'll just agree to not see this from the same point of view.
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Posted 10/26/09 11:00 AM
 

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Re: Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?

Posted by Xelindrya


So I feel this is big brother using the American people's fear to push this on to us. I can't help but feel angry that the man in charge of selling this snake oil to us isnt giving it to this children.



But...it didn't say he ISN'T it says he CAN'T because it isn't available to them...

Posted 10/26/09 11:01 AM
 

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Re: Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?

Posted by Xelindrya

My point is the pressure for everyone to get the shot is nearly at a frenzy.

again i stress i am not changing my position (yet)

But if i were 'thinking' of it, it seems that this pushes that if your child is healthy then there's no reason for you to get the vaccination.

Right?

So my cousin 4, my coworkers kids 8, 11, 14 and my brother 38 are just flukes?

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Only one got hospitalized (my brother) the rest it was just a flu, a bad one, sure, but still not horrible.

None could take the swine flu shot as it was not available - I'll be honest about that.

So I feel this is big brother using the American people's fear to push this on to us. I can't help but feel angry that the man in charge of selling this snake oil to us isnt giving it to this children.



or its just a dad, choosing not to vaccinate his children. Like the rest of us, he has that right. He children DO NOT need to be made examples of or be the poster children for the H1N1 vaccine bc of who their father is.

And no one is saying that any age CANT get swine flu, only that certain age groups are more likely to suffer more sever forms of it as are those with other health conditions.

Posted 10/26/09 11:01 AM
 

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Re: Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?

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I can't help but feel angry that the man in charge of selling this snake oil to us isnt giving it to this children.



Neither one of those links you posted said anything about Obama refusing to give his daughters the shot.
The titles were misleading propaganda; the information in the first paragraph stated that they have not received the vaccination yet because it is not available to them.

And your comment is just ridiculous.
First of all, Obama is not in charge of selling any kind of vaccinations. And second of all, "snake oil?" come on now.

Posted 10/26/09 11:02 AM
 

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Posted by Xelindrya

My point is the pressure for everyone to get the shot is nearly at a frenzy.

again i stress i am not changing my position (yet)

But if i were 'thinking' of it, it seems that this pushes that if your child is healthy then there's no reason for you to get the vaccination.

Right?

So my cousin 4, my coworkers kids 8, 11, 14 and my brother 38 are just flukes?

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Only one got hospitalized (my brother) the rest it was just a flu, a bad one, sure, but still not horrible.

None could take the swine flu shot as it was not available - I'll be honest about that.

So I feel this is big brother using the American people's fear to push this on to us. I can't help but feel angry that the man in charge of selling this snake oil to us isnt giving it to this children.



I am confused. No one is saying that ALL kids can't get H1N1 - they are saying that MOST kids will recover just fine. Kids with preexisting conditions will have a harder time recovering, so THEY are the ones who have to get the shot first. Obama's children are healthy, so even though their dad IS the president, they are not in the first group to be immunized.

Posted 10/26/09 11:03 AM
 

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Re: Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?

See i should stop but i cant..

He said he would give his kids the shot at first. At first before the shot was out just yet but well after everyone knew the parameters of who should or shouldnt take the shot first he said he'd give it to them. Now off a sudden its not necessary cause they are healthy?

Right.. sorry but I call bs on that.

ok i promise, I'll stop now.

Posted 10/26/09 11:05 AM
 

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See i should stop but i cant..

He said he would give his kids the shot at first. At first before the shot was out just yet but well after everyone knew the parameters of who should or shouldnt take the shot first he said he'd give it to them. Now off a sudden its not necessary cause they are healthy?

Right.. sorry but I call bs on that.

ok i promise, I'll stop now.



LOL you don't have to stop - is that in one of the articles? I am at work so could only access the very short article and I am going based on that. I know nothing of the background of this.

Posted 10/26/09 11:07 AM
 

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Posted by Xelindrya

See i should stop but i cant..

He said he would give his kids the shot at first. At first before the shot was out just yet but well after everyone knew the parameters of who should or shouldnt take the shot first he said he'd give it to them. Now off a sudden its not necessary cause they are healthy?

Right.. sorry but I call bs on that.

ok i promise, I'll stop now.



Veronica, i think you're missing the point. he is not saying that he doesn't want his kids to get the shot. they simply don't qualify for it. it's being given on a limited basis for those who are in high risk groups. his kids aren't in that group. that's all.

now it would be another thing if he wanted all kids to get it, pushed through more production of the vaccine, and then said his kids weren't getting it - then i'd understand your argument. but that's not the case here.

Posted 10/26/09 11:08 AM
 

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Re: Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?

Posted by Xelindrya

See i should stop but i cant..

He said he would give his kids the shot at first. At first before the shot was out just yet but well after everyone knew the parameters of who should or shouldnt take the shot first he said he'd give it to them. Now off a sudden its not necessary cause they are healthy?

Right.. sorry but I call bs on that.

ok i promise, I'll stop now.




WHERE DOES IT SAY HE WON'T GIVE IT TO THEM????

BOTH of the links you posted said IT IS NOT AVAILABLE to them because they are not in a high risk group.

Posted 10/26/09 11:08 AM
 

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Posted by Xelindrya

He said he would give his kids the shot at first. At first before the shot was out just yet but well after everyone knew the parameters of who should or shouldnt take the shot first he said he'd give it to them. Now off a sudden its not necessary cause they are healthy?




But I am going to repeat what I said earlier with more detail. I went to my ped's office for a flu shot and was asked if I wanted a swine flu shot, but was told it was not available in mid September. Because my son had a cold, we had to go back a week later, still unavailable. I guess if I really wanted him to have it, I could have kept calling, but given the shortage, I can see why perhaps he changed his mind about it.

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Posted 10/26/09 11:08 AM
 

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Posted by Xelindrya

See i should stop but i cant..

He said he would give his kids the shot at first. At first before the shot was out just yet but well after everyone knew the parameters of who should or shouldnt take the shot first he said he'd give it to them. Now off a sudden its not necessary cause they are healthy?

Right.. sorry but I call bs on that.

ok i promise, I'll stop now.




Oh for the love of god.......he IS planning on vaccinating his children, just NOT YET bc there are higher risks groups being vaccinated first. I dont see why that he said it "before it was released but after the parameters were released" means they arent getting it all?????????? THEY ARE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR IT YET! This is happening at clinics, health offices and pediatricians all over the country, those with compromised systems are being vaccinated first. He was just saying they will get it...eventually.

Posted 10/26/09 11:10 AM
 

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Posted by Porrruss

Wow- Fox News is really reaching here. Must be a slow news day since they obviously have nothing else to harp on the President about.

I mean the article is 2 small paragraphs and the only information given is that they haven't been vaccinated and the vaccine is only available for those at high risk. Considering the shortage in availability the vaccine is only offered to the most critical in the high risk groups.


I should think with others in more need that the Obama girls haven't been vaccinated yet.



Totally agree!

Posted 10/26/09 11:12 AM
 

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Re: Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?

This just goes to show that no matter WHAT this man does, there are groups of people who will find fault. I have a nagging suspicion that if the article stated his daughters received the H1N1 vaccine we'd see this post crying: "Talk about special treatment- Obama's kids got the vaccine ahead of others in greater need!"

I thought you just interpreted the articles wrong, but it's obvious you're just looking to start yet another anti-Obama rant.

Look- we get it. You don't like Obama and you don't believe in vaccinating.

Posted 10/26/09 11:19 AM
 

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I thought you just interpreted the articles wrong, but it's obvious you're just looking to start yet another anti-Obama rant.

Look- we get it. You don't like Obama and you don't believe in vaccinating.






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Posted by Porrruss

I thought you just interpreted the articles wrong, but it's obvious you're just looking to start yet another anti-Obama rant.

Look- we get it. You don't like Obama and you don't believe in vaccinating.






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