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Re: Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?
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B/c he is the president and I am quite sure if he wanted his two young daughters to get the vaccine, they could easily do so. As Veronica pointed out, if one of them were to get severely ill and become incapacitated for months, his train of thought and level of concentration may surely be effected. So, it is hard to believe they do not have "access" to the vaccine. Very hard. ANd they ARE in a high risk group, just based on age alone, once again. Some peds have it, some peds dont. I am sure Obama could have ANYTHING he wants for his family, he is the president.
And you don't think there would be a riot about that if he did? You are just ignoring that point? This debate would be going on just in a different direction.
And I do think Veronica is pulling at straws, unfortunately, the swine flu is not the only disease that Obama's or anyone's child can catch. I think that it is a stretch.
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Re: Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?
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B/c he is the president and I am quite sure if he wanted his two young daughters to get the vaccine, they could easily do so. As Veronica pointed out, if one of them were to get severely ill and become incapacitated for months, his train of thought and level of concentration may surely be effected. So, it is hard to believe they do not have "access" to the vaccine. Very hard. ANd they ARE in a high risk group, just based on age alone, once again. Some peds have it, some peds dont. I am sure Obama could have ANYTHING he wants for his family, he is the president.
And you don't think there would be a riot about that if he did? You are just ignoring that point? This debate would be going on just in a different direction.
And I do think Veronica is pulling at straws, unfortunately, the swine flu is not the only disease that Obama's or anyone's child can catch. I think that it is a stretch.
Oh I am sure some may be up in arms but...everyone needs to know, some peds have it, some don't. And I am sure many peds are prioritizing, but some may just go by the assigned risk catgeories. At my peds, if you are in age group, you can get the vaccine if you get it before they run out. Bottom line. Age equals risk, and it's first come first serve.
But...it is the ONLY disease where we are currently in a "pandemic" state for. That's the main issue. There are no other pandemic's going around now, so no disease is that prevalent. I dont think bringing up other diseases proves any point. We are referring to a pandemic that the public is responding to, with actions, fears, words, etc.
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Re: Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?
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B/c he is the president and I am quite sure if he wanted his two young daughters to get the vaccine, they could easily do so. As Veronica pointed out, if one of them were to get severely ill and become incapacitated for months, his train of thought and level of concentration may surely be effected. So, it is hard to believe they do not have "access" to the vaccine. Very hard. ANd they ARE in a high risk group, just based on age alone, once again. Some peds have it, some peds dont. I am sure Obama could have ANYTHING he wants for his family, he is the president.
And you don't think there would be a riot about that if he did? You are just ignoring that point? This debate would be going on just in a different direction.
And I do think Veronica is pulling at straws, unfortunately, the swine flu is not the only disease that Obama's or anyone's child can catch. I think that it is a stretch.
ITA.
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Re: Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?
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B/c he is the president and I am quite sure if he wanted his two young daughters to get the vaccine, they could easily do so. As Veronica pointed out, if one of them were to get severely ill and become incapacitated for months, his train of thought and level of concentration may surely be effected. So, it is hard to believe they do not have "access" to the vaccine. Very hard. ANd they ARE in a high risk group, just based on age alone, once again. Some peds have it, some peds dont. I am sure Obama could have ANYTHING he wants for his family, he is the president.
And you don't think there would be a riot about that if he did? You are just ignoring that point? This debate would be going on just in a different direction.
And I do think Veronica is pulling at straws, unfortunately, the swine flu is not the only disease that Obama's or anyone's child can catch. I think that it is a stretch.
In addition to what I wrote above, I think you just proved her point. This is the ONLY disease the public is being overwhemingly affected by. It is a disease that people were being mandated (hospital workers, etc) to get the vaccine for, based on the "risks" associated with it. So I dont see how that is a stretch at all. It is a pandemic. No other diseases even equate to the supposed magnitude of this one. And it's in the news everyday. We hear constantly about how deadly it is, may be, will be, etc. It's a very heated issue. No other disease compares to that at the present. And it's a disease with a history that makes people question it...(the whole 1976 Swine flu shot/GBS reaction debacle), which is really where much of the mistrust comes from. 
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Re: Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?
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B/c he is the president and I am quite sure if he wanted his two young daughters to get the vaccine, they could easily do so. As Veronica pointed out, if one of them were to get severely ill and become incapacitated for months, his train of thought and level of concentration may surely be effected. So, it is hard to believe they do not have "access" to the vaccine. Very hard. ANd they ARE in a high risk group, just based on age alone, once again. Some peds have it, some peds dont. I am sure Obama could have ANYTHING he wants for his family, he is the president.
And you don't think there would be a riot about that if he did? You are just ignoring that point? This debate would be going on just in a different direction.
And I do think Veronica is pulling at straws, unfortunately, the swine flu is not the only disease that Obama's or anyone's child can catch. I think that it is a stretch.
In addition to what I wrote above, I think you just proved her point. This is the ONLY disease the public is being overwhemingly affected by. It is a disease that people were being FORCED (hospital workers, etc) to get the vaccine for, based on the "risks" associated with it. So I dont see how that is a stretch at all. It is a pandemic. No other diseases even equate to the supposed magnitude of this one.
How? 
I find it ironic that Veronica and yourself honestly, do not want to give their children the shot, but the President should b/c he is the president. They live in probably the cleanest house in America!
Besides the point, that ban was lifted, and ya want to know part of the reason? Because there are not enough to go around! My DH was mandated to get it and it was lifted last week, before he even got it
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Re: Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?
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B/c he is the president and I am quite sure if he wanted his two young daughters to get the vaccine, they could easily do so. As Veronica pointed out, if one of them were to get severely ill and become incapacitated for months, his train of thought and level of concentration may surely be effected. So, it is hard to believe they do not have "access" to the vaccine. Very hard. ANd they ARE in a high risk group, just based on age alone, once again. Some peds have it, some peds dont. I am sure Obama could have ANYTHING he wants for his family, he is the president.
And you don't think there would be a riot about that if he did? You are just ignoring that point? This debate would be going on just in a different direction.
And I do think Veronica is pulling at straws, unfortunately, the swine flu is not the only disease that Obama's or anyone's child can catch. I think that it is a stretch.
In addition to what I wrote above, I think you just proved her point. This is the ONLY disease the public is being overwhemingly affected by. It is a disease that people were being FORCED (hospital workers, etc) to get the vaccine for, based on the "risks" associated with it. So I dont see how that is a stretch at all. It is a pandemic. No other diseases even equate to the supposed magnitude of this one.
How?
I find it ironic that Veronica and yourself honestly, do not want to give their children the shot, but the President should b/c he is the president. They live in probably the cleanest house in America!
Besides the point, that ban was lifted, and ya want to know part of the reason? Because there are not enough to go around! My DH was mandated to get it and it was lifted last week, before he even got it
I dont care what Obama does in this case. I never said I did. I was just saying I understood her point. I never followed what he did, planned to do, will do, wont do, etc. So dont put words into my mouth. Read back all my posts in this thread. I can see her point,she has been following this and this concerns her. Not me, her. But i see her point.
And what does a clean house have to do with it? They go to school amongst other children (risk factors), their father travels the world and is amongst many people on a daily basis I am sure. Those simply increase the risks (other than the usual risks we all have), not a clean or dirty house.
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Re: Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?
Swine Flu hmph!
What happened to good ole Hoof and Mouth
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Re: Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?
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B/c he is the president and I am quite sure if he wanted his two young daughters to get the vaccine, they could easily do so. As Veronica pointed out, if one of them were to get severely ill and become incapacitated for months, his train of thought and level of concentration may surely be effected. So, it is hard to believe they do not have "access" to the vaccine. Very hard. ANd they ARE in a high risk group, just based on age alone, once again. Some peds have it, some peds dont. I am sure Obama could have ANYTHING he wants for his family, he is the president.
And you don't think there would be a riot about that if he did? You are just ignoring that point? This debate would be going on just in a different direction.
And I do think Veronica is pulling at straws, unfortunately, the swine flu is not the only disease that Obama's or anyone's child can catch. I think that it is a stretch.
In addition to what I wrote above, I think you just proved her point. This is the ONLY disease the public is being overwhemingly affected by. It is a disease that people were being FORCED (hospital workers, etc) to get the vaccine for, based on the "risks" associated with it. So I dont see how that is a stretch at all. It is a pandemic. No other diseases even equate to the supposed magnitude of this one.
How?
I find it ironic that Veronica and yourself honestly, do not want to give their children the shot, but the President should b/c he is the president. They live in probably the cleanest house in America!
Besides the point, that ban was lifted, and ya want to know part of the reason? Because there are not enough to go around! My DH was mandated to get it and it was lifted last week, before he even got it
I dont care what Obama does in this case. I never said I did. I was just saying I understood her point. I never followed what he did, planned to do, will do, wont do, etc. So dont put words into my mouth. Read back all my posts in this thread. I can see her point,she has been following this and this concerns her. Not me, her. But i see her point.
And what does a clean house have to do with it? They go to school amongst other children (risk factors), their father travels the world and is amongst people on a daily basis I am sure. Those increase the risks, not a clean or dirty house.
I meant it in the regards that they probably get sanitized A LOT. Listen, my DH can't get the shot he deals with the scum of the earth, and neither can my son.
But, we are never going to agree on this, so let's listen to DeadHorse
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Re: Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?
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But, we are never going to agree on this, so let's listen to DeadHorse
I got lotsa love for Dead horse.
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Re: Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?
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Just remember she can post whatever she wants. You may not want to read it but others may want to read it. I think the way some people are acting on this thread, towards a person who simply posted their opinion, is just disgusting. Just remember if you don't "like" her threads, feel free to NOT respond or read them.
In addition, I think I understand what Veronica's point was. I think she is trying to make the point that a pandemic was declared, but the president's children are not getting the shot? So it made her question if the shot is safe, if there is some hidden reason that his girls aren't getting the very shot that has been rushed into creation to fight this pandemic. I can kind of see what she was trying to express.
But to attack her the way some people have simply b/c they don't agree with what she wrote or share her viewpoint, that is just unneccessary.
I personally will read her threads, Obama or vaccine related, so I HOPE she continues to post whatever content she desires. No one here is the posting police. Bottom line. If you dont like it, don't read it.
Wow! Just like you and her can post their opinions, so can I  I think her threads about these topics are long winded, often rambled and repetitive. I look thru all the threads so when hers come up I open them, then close them thanks for looking out for her and giving me a lecture...it is much appreciated!
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Re: Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?
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Just remember she can post whatever she wants. You may not want to read it but others may want to read it. I think the way some people are acting on this thread, towards a person who simply posted their opinion, is just disgusting. Just remember if you don't "like" her threads, feel free to NOT respond or read them.
In addition, I think I understand what Veronica's point was. I think she is trying to make the point that a pandemic was declared, but the president's children are not getting the shot? So it made her question if the shot is safe, if there is some hidden reason that his girls aren't getting the very shot that has been rushed into creation to fight this pandemic. I can kind of see what she was trying to express.
But to attack her the way some people have simply b/c they don't agree with what she wrote or share her viewpoint, that is just unneccessary.
I personally will read her threads, Obama or vaccine related, so I HOPE she continues to post whatever content she desires. No one here is the posting police. Bottom line. If you dont like it, don't read it.
Wow! Just like you and her can post their opinions, so can I I think her threads about these topics are long winded, often rambled and repetitive. I look thru all the threads so when hers come up I open them, then close them thanks for looking out for her and giving me a lecture...it is much appreciated!
She is posting her opinion on a general topic. Not attacking a fellow poster for what they think. Big difference. Again, if you think her posts are long winded, repetitive, rambled, etc, why open them and attack her? Commenting on the topic at hand is not the same as just telling someone you don't like what and how they post. Is that neccessary or is it ok to make fun of people and who they are, how the write, what they write, etc?
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Re: Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?
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Posted by karanthony
Posted by Goobster
Just remember she can post whatever she wants. You may not want to read it but others may want to read it. I think the way some people are acting on this thread, towards a person who simply posted their opinion, is just disgusting. Just remember if you don't "like" her threads, feel free to NOT respond or read them.
In addition, I think I understand what Veronica's point was. I think she is trying to make the point that a pandemic was declared, but the president's children are not getting the shot? So it made her question if the shot is safe, if there is some hidden reason that his girls aren't getting the very shot that has been rushed into creation to fight this pandemic. I can kind of see what she was trying to express.
But to attack her the way some people have simply b/c they don't agree with what she wrote or share her viewpoint, that is just unneccessary.
I personally will read her threads, Obama or vaccine related, so I HOPE she continues to post whatever content she desires. No one here is the posting police. Bottom line. If you dont like it, don't read it.
Wow! Just like you and her can post their opinions, so can I I think her threads about these topics are long winded, often rambled and repetitive. I look thru all the threads so when hers come up I open them, then close them thanks for looking out for her and giving me a lecture...it is much appreciated!
She is posting her opinion on a general topic. Not attacking a fellow poster for what they think. Big difference. Again, if you think her posts are long winded, repetitive, rambled, etc, why open them and attack her? Commenting on the topic at hand is not the same as just telling someone you don't like what and how they post. Is that neccessary or is it ok to make fun of people and who they are, how the write, what they write, etc?
In this case it is necessary to comment b/c she always tries to find a way to bash Obama on a PARENTING board...maybe they should make a politics board and she can post there! I wasn't making fun of her but simply stating that her posts are non stop about the same things. It is very difficult to go thru them, and I don't have to open them but when I constantly see her complaining topics it is hard to miss them.
That's it, end of discussion. No need to keep rehashing, we all get you are defending her, I get it, the rest of the board gets it, let it GO!
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this case it is necessary to comment b/c she always tries to find a way to bash Obama on a PARENTING board...maybe they should make a politics board and she can post there! I wasn't making fun of her but simply stating that her posts are non stop about the same things. It is very difficult to go thru them, and I don't have to open them but when I constantly see her complaining topics it is hard to miss them.
That's it, end of discussion. No need to keep rehashing, we all get you are defending her, I get it, the rest of the board gets it, let it GO!
So what it's on the parenting board? She is a parent, who is trying to decipher where she stands on the Swine flu vaccination for her child. And in this case, she was concerned about our president's stance on a controversial vaccine, in regards to his own children (again, parenting).
For some people, getting/not getting this vaccine is a very hard decision to make. They need to discuss it, look at info they feel may help them make a decision. That's what I interpreted this thread as, for her. I guess some see it otherwise.
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Re: Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?
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B/c he is the president and I am quite sure if he wanted his two young daughters to get the vaccine, they could easily do so. As Veronica pointed out, if one of them were to get severely ill and become incapacitated for months, his train of thought and level of concentration may surely be effected. So, it is hard to believe they do not have "access" to the vaccine. Very hard. ANd they ARE in a high risk group, just based on age alone, once again. Some peds have it, some peds dont. I am sure Obama could have ANYTHING he wants for his family, he is the president.
And you don't think there would be a riot about that if he did? You are just ignoring that point? This debate would be going on just in a different direction.
And I do think Veronica is pulling at straws, unfortunately, the swine flu is not the only disease that Obama's or anyone's child can catch. I think that it is a stretch.
Oh I am sure some may be up in arms but...everyone needs to know, some peds have it, some don't. And I am sure many peds are prioritizing, but some may just go by the assigned risk catgeories. At my peds, if you are in age group, you can get the vaccine if you get it before they run out. Bottom line. Age equals risk, and it's first come first serve.
But age is not the only factor that equals risk. If you have two 2 year olds and one has asthma and the other does not, should the child without asthma get the shot before the one who does? Certainly not IMO, though I am sure this is happening all the time.
My point, and the point of many others posting, is that the statement originally posted seems to indicate that his girls are not getting the shot now since they are not in a high risk category. Technically they are based upon age, but if they have no underlying health conditions, they can decide what to do. Now maybe he really has no intention of getting the shot for his daughters even when supplies are ample. I do feel that is his business as a parent. The children of Presidents do not always have to be the example for the rest of the nation. If that logic held true, the Bush daughters should have both gone to Iraq, but they did not, did they? Nor should they have gone if they did not want to go just because many other families were asked to send their children--granted that is a bigger sacrifice and not a fair comparison.
I do think it is good he did not rush his daughters to the front of the line for the shot.
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Re: Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?
I agree that he COULD get it for his kids if he wanted to, but what kind of example is that?
That is really telling people that if you are wealthy and powerful, you can get your hands on it while others who are truly at risk not JUST because of age(Janice's son Josh comes to mind) have to hunt it down and are lucky to get it after waiting on line for hours and hours at the county health department.
I would not be okay with that. Yes, his kids may be in one of the at risk groups due to their age but even within the at risk groups there are levels of severity.
My DD is 2 and in daycare and she can't get it.
I'm pregnant and can't get it.
DH's grandmother is 82 and can't get it.
All of these are groups that come before preteens who are otherwise healthy.
I'm not saying anyone should get the shot, but to condemn the president because he didn't use power and money to jump to the head of the line is nutty to me. And to call the vaccine "snake oil" is beyond nutty. I have a hunch you have a conspiracy theory for Roswell, who really shot Kennedy and who framed Roger Rabbit
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Re: Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?
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I would rather our president have his mind on the work he has to do and not about worry if his children will get the swine flu. .
This sentence disturbs me......as a parent there is NOTHING more important than my child and on a human level, the fact that he is President aside.........I would MORE than understand that he be concerned about the health and well being of HIS OWN children over the work he has to do. Who isnt??????
Bottom line is, your OP had NOTHING to do with the articles linked. You said he WASNT giving them the shot and the links said he HASNT YET. That sounded like a skewed agenda meant to stir up controversy on the board rather than stating what the "articles" CLEARLY state.
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Re: Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?
Posted by CrankyPants
I agree that he COULD get it for his kids if he wanted to, but what kind of example is that?
That is really telling people that if you are wealthy and powerful, you can get your hands on it while others who are truly at risk not JUST because of age(Janice's son Josh comes to mind) have to hunt it down and are lucky to get it after waiting on line for hours and hours at the county health department.
I would not be okay with that. Yes, his kids may be in one of the at risk groups do to their age but even within the at risk groups there are levels of severity.
My DD is 2 and in daycare and she can't get it.
I'm pregnant and can't get it.
DH's grandmother is 82 and can't get it.
All of these are groups that come before preteens who are otherwise healthy.
I'm not saying anyone should get the shot, but to condemn the president because he didn't use power and money to jump to the head of the line is nutty to me. And to call the vaccine "snake oil" is beyond nutty. I have a hunch you have a conspiracy theory for Roswell, who really shot Kennedy and who framed Roger Rabbit
ITA on all points.
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Re: Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?
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My point, and the point of many others posting, is that the statement originally posted seems to indicate that his girls are not getting the shot now since they are not in a high risk category. Technically they are based upon age, but if they have no underlying health conditions, they can decide what to do. Now maybe he really has no intention of getting the shot for his daughters even when supplies are ample. I do feel that is his business as a parent. The children of Presidents do not always have to be the example for the rest of the nation. If that logic held true, the Bush daughters should have both gone to Iraq, but they did not, did they? Nor should they have gone if they did not want to go just because many other families were asked to send their children--granted that is a bigger sacrifice and not a fair comparison.
I do think it is good he did not rush his daughters to the front of the line for the shot.
Very well said. i agree with you entirely on this. I was just saying all along that I understood the way Veronica was seeing/interpreting this.
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Re: Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?
I have been trying to stay out of this post, but I will add just this:
I live in NJ and right now the H1N1 vaccine is pretty much impossible to find. My ped does not have it yet. No other doctor's offices besides pediatricians will be getting it AT ALL. I have been calling around to the different township department of health centers and nobody in my area has it yet and cannot tell me when they are getting it.
I would imagine that if there were places right now that are offering it, the highest risk groups will be the ones getting it first and just because Obama's girls are within the age range, they are healthy and I am sure there are other risk categories that are of higher priority than them. I applaud Obama for not using his "status" to jump his girls to the front of the line even if he does want the shot for them. 
As for me, someone who is in 2 high risk groups (pregnant and will have an infant under 6 months during flu season), I am thinking it won't be anytime before mid-November before I can find the shot for myself.
I disagree with those who say it would be easy to come by. At least from the perspective of someone who lives in NJ.
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Re: Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?
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I agree that he COULD get it for his kids if he wanted to, but what kind of example is that?
That is really telling people that if you are wealthy and powerful, you can get your hands on it while others who are truly at risk not JUST because of age(Janice's son Josh comes to mind) have to hunt it down and are lucky to get it after waiting on line for hours and hours at the county health department.
I would not be okay with that. Yes, his kids may be in one of the at risk groups do to their age but even within the at risk groups there are levels of severity.
My DD is 2 and in daycare and she can't get it.
I'm pregnant and can't get it.
DH's grandmother is 82 and can't get it.
All of these are groups that come before preteens who are otherwise healthy.
I'm not saying anyone should get the shot, but to condemn the president because he didn't use power and money to jump to the head of the line is nutty to me. And to call the vaccine "snake oil" is beyond nutty. I have a hunch you have a conspiracy theory for Roswell, who really shot Kennedy and who framed Roger Rabbit
I truly believe that if he could get it or already did get it for his children, it would be SO undercover that no one would know anyhow...KWIM...
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| Posted 10/26/09 8:47 PM |
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cjik
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Re: Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?
Posted by PrincessP
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I agree that he COULD get it for his kids if he wanted to, but what kind of example is that?
That is really telling people that if you are wealthy and powerful, you can get your hands on it while others who are truly at risk not JUST because of age(Janice's son Josh comes to mind) have to hunt it down and are lucky to get it after waiting on line for hours and hours at the county health department.
I would not be okay with that. Yes, his kids may be in one of the at risk groups do to their age but even within the at risk groups there are levels of severity.
My DD is 2 and in daycare and she can't get it.
I'm pregnant and can't get it.
DH's grandmother is 82 and can't get it.
All of these are groups that come before preteens who are otherwise healthy.
I'm not saying anyone should get the shot, but to condemn the president because he didn't use power and money to jump to the head of the line is nutty to me. And to call the vaccine "snake oil" is beyond nutty. I have a hunch you have a conspiracy theory for Roswell, who really shot Kennedy and who framed Roger Rabbit
I truly believe that if he could get it or already did get it for his children, it would be SO undercover that no one would know anyhow...KWIM...
And who knows? Maybe they have secretly gotten the shot by now? Though there would be a big uproar if that was covered up.
Thanks for the Goobster, I think we all need to about now and call it a night! And pray all of our children remain healthy.
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| Posted 10/26/09 9:45 PM |
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Janice
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Re: Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?
I would look at Obama like I have looked at any other parent who tells me they are not giving the shot to their child...its fine and it doesn't concern me.
They must not have ever seen their child in distress. Its not worth an unknown risk to them.
The shot was very hard to come by. I searched for 2 weeks. I got information from an insider at my moms group that only a certain amount was going to be given and that people were planning on camping out.
I saw mothers cry who got there 15 minutes before clinic opened, knowing they would be turned away.
I am already being told that the 4 week booster is probably non existant at this point.
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| Posted 10/26/09 10:55 PM |
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Goobster
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Re: Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?
Posted by Janice
I am already being told that the 4 week booster is probably non existant at this point.
I am so confused, I thought there was going to be plenty to go around?
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| Posted 10/26/09 10:58 PM |
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SweetTooth
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Re: Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?
Posted by Goobster
Posted by Janice
I am already being told that the 4 week booster is probably non existant at this point.
I am so confused, I thought there was going to be plenty to go around?
As of right now, there is a shortage. The companies that make the vaccine are having problems manufacturing large quantities in a short amount of time.
In addition, because of the demand for the H1N1 vaccine, there is a shortage of seasonal flu vaccine as well.
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| Posted 10/26/09 11:10 PM |
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daisychain
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Re: Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?
I 100% believe that the people saying he should have used his power and influence to skip in front of people in serious need and get his kids vaccinated now just because he could would be the same people to condemn him for it if he actually did that.
I agree with waiting until his children "qualify" although I could possibly be swayed by an argument where his children needed to get it earlier because if they got swine flu and then infected the president it would be an issue of nat'l security...
either way, it's amazing to see how people spin things.
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| Posted 10/27/09 8:20 AM |
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