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Re: Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?
Posted by Xelindrya
See i should stop but i cant..
He said he would give his kids the shot at first. At first before the shot was out just yet but well after everyone knew the parameters of who should or shouldnt take the shot first he said he'd give it to them. Now off a sudden its not necessary cause they are healthy?
Right.. sorry but I call bs on that.
ok i promise, I'll stop now.
He never said it wasn't necessary. he never said he wouldn't or won't give it to them. He hasn't said anything. Like the vast majority of kids, they just haven't been vaccinated yet--because of the shortage and the priorities. Why does this offend you?
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Re: Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?
I'm not an Obama supporter, and I DO believe in vaccinating, I think you're REALLLY stretching here!!!
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Re: Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?
Posted by monkeybride
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President Obama's school age daughters have not been vaccinated against the H1N1 flu virus. White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs says the vaccine is not available to them based on their risk.
Actually, based on this it seems as if they DID get the shot, it would be wrong b/c he would be using his influence to get it for them.
It says that children with certain conditions are getting it first. They are healthy.
I agree. Most of our kids probably are not eligible for the shot at this point.
ITA. It doesn't say they will not get the shot ever (that was the opinion of the writer on this site), but the newspiece mentions they are healthy and not in a high risk group.
My husband who had cancer earlier in the year and has a compromised immune system cannot get the shot nor can a pregnant friend of mine--I would be ****** actually if the Obama daughters got the shot ahead of them.
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Re: Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?
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Posted by Xelindrya
See i should stop but i cant..
please do.
Exactly  kinda sick of your vaccination and anti obama posts 
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Re: Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?
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President Obama's school age daughters have not been vaccinated against the H1N1 flu virus. White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs says the vaccine is not available to them based on their risk.
Actually, based on this it seems as if they DID get the shot, it would be wrong b/c he would be using his influence to get it for them.
It says that children with certain conditions are getting it first. They are healthy.
I agree. Most of our kids probably are not eligible for the shot at this point.
ITA. It doesn't say they will not get the shot ever (that was the opinion of the writer on this site), but the newspiece mentions they are healthy and not in a high risk group.
My husband who had cancer earlier in the year and has a compromised immune system cannot get the shot nor can a pregnant friend of mine--I would be ****** actually if the Obama daughters got the shot ahead of them.
I look at it this way--when I asked my son's pediatrician if she feels he should get this shot, she said yes. But then she quickly added, if he can get it. She is very concerned about vaccinating as many children as possible, but her supplies are likely to be quite limited for some time to come. So she said she is offereing them to children who have asthma, leukemia, etc. those who fall into the high risk groups first, and I think that is fair. There is such a shortage now--I'm sure if Obama had his daughters get the shot, Fox would be all over that as well.
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Re: Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?
Honestly, I don't care one way or the other if his kids get it. But, I will say that it is a load of cr$%p to say that it is "not available" to them. Many peds offices have the swine flu shot and unlike the regular flu it IS dangerous for kids that age. They could get the mist or the shot both of which are available at many peds offices and other places.
I don't know what Obama's stand is on the shot personally and I don't care but, honestly - we will never know what it is - there is NO WAY he would ever come out and say he is not giving his kids the swine flu shot b/c he doesn't think it is safe - EVERN if he felt that way. So yes, I do think this is his way of saying that for now they are not getting it because even if he were NOT the president his kids could get it if he really wanted them to.
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Re: Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?
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Honestly, I don't care one way or the other if his kids get it. But, I will say that it is a load of cr$%p to say that it is "not available" to them. Many peds offices have the swine flu shot and unlike the regular flu it IS dangerous for kids that age. They could get the mist or the shot both of which are available at many peds offices and other places.
I don't know what Obama's stand is on the shot personally and I don't care but, honestly - we will never know what it is - there is NO WAY he would ever come out and say he is not giving his kids the swine flu shot b/c he doesn't think it is safe - EVERN if he felt that way. So yes, I do think this is his way of saying that for now they are not getting it because even if he were NOT the president his kids could get it if he really wanted them to.
My peds office had it but are out and only children in the high risk categories were eligible. If there was more left, then they were going to move onto non-high risk, but they were out by then. Same thing happened in Jersey over the weekend and county health clinics who had it......
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Re: Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?
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Honestly, I don't care one way or the other if his kids get it. But, I will say that it is a load of cr$%p to say that it is "not available" to them. Many peds offices have the swine flu shot and unlike the regular flu it IS dangerous for kids that age. They could get the mist or the shot both of which are available at many peds offices and other places.
I don't know what Obama's stand is on the shot personally and I don't care but, honestly - we will never know what it is - there is NO WAY he would ever come out and say he is not giving his kids the swine flu shot b/c he doesn't think it is safe - EVERN if he felt that way. So yes, I do think this is his way of saying that for now they are not getting it because even if he were NOT the president his kids could get it if he really wanted them to.
My peds office had it but are out and only children in the high risk categories were eligible. If there was more left, then they were going to move onto non-high risk, but they were out by then. Same thing happened in Jersey over the weekend and county health clinics who had it......
I'm not saying that it isn't in short supply i am just saying that it is available places. I have a close family member that is a ped and her office had the shots as of last week and the mist before that. She just said you had to have put in your order for it - they are not automatically supplying it so maybe some peds weren't as diligent as others. As of last week my peds office had it to - we are not getting it so I am not sure what their policy is but they did have it.
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Re: Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?
Just remember she can post whatever she wants. You may not want to read it but others may want to read it. I think the way some people are acting on this thread, towards a person who simply posted their opinion, is just disgusting. Just remember if you don't "like" her threads, feel free to NOT respond or read them.
In addition, I think I understand what Veronica's point was. I think she is trying to make the point that a pandemic was declared, but the president's children are not getting the shot? So it made her question if the shot is safe, if there is some hidden reason that his girls aren't getting the very shot that has been rushed into creation to fight this pandemic. I can kind of see what she was trying to express.
But to attack her the way some people have simply b/c they don't agree with what she wrote or share her viewpoint, that is just unneccessary. 
I personally will read her threads, Obama or vaccine related, so I HOPE she continues to post whatever content she desires. No one here is the posting police. Bottom line. If you dont like it, don't read it.
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Re: Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?
Then why are you opening them, reading them AND responding to them???? I feel this is very rude and unecessary - just because YOU do not agree with her posts doesn't mean everyone has to have the same opinion.
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Re: Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?
Posted by itsbabytime
Honestly, I don't care one way or the other if his kids get it. But, I will say that it is a load of cr$%p to say that it is "not available" to them. Many peds offices have the swine flu shot and unlike the regular flu it IS dangerous for kids that age. They could get the mist or the shot both of which are available at many peds offices and other places.
I don't know what Obama's stand is on the shot personally and I don't care but, honestly - we will never know what it is - there is NO WAY he would ever come out and say he is not giving his kids the swine flu shot b/c he doesn't think it is safe - EVERN if he felt that way. So yes, I do think this is his way of saying that for now they are not getting it because even if he were NOT the president his kids could get it if he really wanted them to.
Well said, any person under 24 I believe is considered "high" risk to receive swine flu vaccination.
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Re: Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?
I don't see "Big Brother" causing people to freak. I see people freaking and other people are freaking because they heard their cousin's brothers co-worker had swine flu and nearly DIED. If "big brother" was causing people to freak, it would be a mandatory flu shot and we would all be in a line to get it or ELSE. 
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Re: Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?
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Honestly, I don't care one way or the other if his kids get it. But, I will say that it is a load of cr$%p to say that it is "not available" to them. Many peds offices have the swine flu shot and unlike the regular flu it IS dangerous for kids that age. They could get the mist or the shot both of which are available at many peds offices and other places.
I don't know what Obama's stand is on the shot personally and I don't care but, honestly - we will never know what it is - there is NO WAY he would ever come out and say he is not giving his kids the swine flu shot b/c he doesn't think it is safe - EVERN if he felt that way. So yes, I do think this is his way of saying that for now they are not getting it because even if he were NOT the president his kids could get it if he really wanted them to.
Well said, any person under 24 I believe is considered "high" risk to receive swine flu vaccination.
Unless you dont need to, which is what he's saying isnt he?
Thanks Goobster for the FM
So here's another question. Why is it that its a National crisis? If his own children who are in the risk group won't be getting the shot right now due to not being in a risk group (which is an oxymoron) then who is he suggestion should get the shot instead? And if it is someone other than his pre-teen children why not just come right out and say it?
Why instead spread more hysteria with this declaration. Besides which the declaration according to CNN bypasses some regulations put in place right now for CHIP, HIPA and privacy acts. If Bush were to touch any of these for any reason we'd be chopping his head off but Obama does it and its ok? Whether it is ok or not isnt the point as much as that no one is ASKING the question.
Im not saying the vaccination is a ploy to be taken over by aliens posing at the president.  What I am saying is that the president is running the "House" differentlly than his own house and there by setting a bad example.
If you think they can't 'get' the dose I find this totally impossible. I would rather our president have his mind on the work he has to do and not about worry if his children will get the swine flu. Its a point of National security that he be of sound mind and if the swine flu really was a national crisis and his kids do indeed fall into that risk group why are they NOT getting the shot (because none can be found for the president?-unlikely)
Why is it no one questions this or any of it at all?
Lead by example.
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Re: Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?
Everyone has a right to do what they want for their own children.
No one has the right to judge him on his parenting decisions. No one. And I think it's disgusting that people are.
He has made it a point to keep his children out fo the spotlight. He has made it a point to make it clear that his children are a priority in his life.
I'm shocked that people think they have the right to do do, especially based on two REALLY weak and CLEARLY baised articles.
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Re: Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?
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Lead by example.
If his daughters got the shot, the Fox news story would be alll about how he is getting special treatment since there is a shortage and some people who really want the shot and are high-risk can't get the shot.
I think it's good he's not getting preferential treatment. Really, these stories are just to stir the pot and create a story where none exisits. But that's cable news for you....
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Re: Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?
Posted by Xelindrya
hanks Goobster for the FM
So here's another question. Why is it that its a National crisis? If his own children who are in the risk group won't be getting the shot right now due to not being in a risk group (which is an oxymoron) then who is he suggestion should get the shot instead? And if it is someone other than his pre-teen children why not just come right out and say it?
Why instead spread more hysteria with this declaration. Besides which the declaration according to CNN bypasses some regulations put in place right now for CHIP, HIPA and privacy acts. If Bush were to touch any of these for any reason we'd be chopping his head off but Obama does it and its ok? Whether it is ok or not isnt the point as much as that no one is ASKING the question.
Im not saying the vaccination is a ploy to be taken over by aliens posing at the president. What I am saying is that the president is running the "House" differentlly than his own house and there by setting a bad example.
If you think they can't 'get' the dose I find this totally impossible. I would rather our president have his mind on the work he has to do and not about worry if his children will get the swine flu. Its a point of National security that he be of sound mind and if the swine flu really was a national crisis and his kids do indeed fall into that risk group why are they NOT getting the shot (because none can be found for the president?-unlikely)
Why is it no one questions this or any of it at all?
Lead by example.
You are very welcome.
I see the point you are trying to make. We will never know if he feels comfortable with the vaccine or not, with the way the "priority" list seems to be at the moment. But I don't know if every pediatrician is actually going by that or just first come first serve if you fall into the risk groups. And they DO fall into the risks group simply based on age. So...only time will tell if they get the vaccine or not. I personally am not aware of how much Obama has had a hand in the whole Swine flu issue, or where he stands in any regards to the vaccine. Maybe you have followed more about this and that's where your thoughts are coming from. Me, I have no idea where Obama stands, has stood, etc re the swine flu, so I can't say what I think. But if what you are saying is true, only time will tell when "more vaccines" become available for each person in the stated "high risk" groups.
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Re: Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?
Posted by Dragonfly75
Posted by Xelindrya
Lead by example.
If his daughters got the shot, the Fox news story would be alll about how he is getting special treatment since there is a shortage and some people who really want the shot and are high-risk can't get the shot.
I think it's good he's not getting preferential treatment. Really, these stories are just to stir the pot and create a story where none exisits. But that's cable news for you....
Yeah, ITA. Plus, as another poster said, it is the CDC that makes all of the decisions on what a medical crisis is...
To the OP, I am so confused by your posts, you don't want to be told to get it for your child, but the president should have to give it to his because he is the president? I don't get it. Right now, neither you, nor President Obama HAS to give their child this shot, so I don't see the problem here at all
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Posted by itsbabytime
Honestly, I don't care one way or the other if his kids get it. But, I will say that it is a load of cr$%p to say that it is "not available" to them. Many peds offices have the swine flu shot and unlike the regular flu it IS dangerous for kids that age. They could get the mist or the shot both of which are available at many peds offices and other places.
I can't even get a regular flu shot for my son, so I believe it might not be available for them yet.
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Re: Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?
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Lead by example.
If his daughters got the shot, the Fox news story would be alll about how he is getting special treatment since there is a shortage and some people who really want the shot and are high-risk can't get the shot.
I think it's good he's not getting preferential treatment. Really, these stories are just to stir the pot and create a story where none exisits. But that's cable news for you....
Yeah, ITA. Plus, as another poster said, it is the CDC that makes all of the decisions on what a medical crisis is...
To the OP, I am so confused by your posts, you don't want to be told to get it for your child, but the president should have to give it to his because he is the president? I don't get it. Right now, neither you, nor President Obama HAS to give their child this shot, so I don't see the problem here at all
I think her point is simply that he has stated originally he would get it for them. Now they cannot get it, as we said whether his stance has changed or it is simply supply and demand. But I think she feels that if we are being told it's safe, and we are to believe that, it is not very reassurring that the president may not get it for his daughters. You may not care what the president does, but other people may feel he is privvy to more information and expertise, and he is being guided by that. So, that's why she felt if he was advocating it (I have no idea if he was or wasnt), she would expect that he would get it for his daughters. And their age alone does put them in a high risk group, and should make them eligible for the shot.
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Re: Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?
Posted by Dragonfly75
Posted by Xelindrya
Lead by example.
If his daughters got the shot, the Fox news story would be alll about how he is getting special treatment since there is a shortage and some people who really want the shot and are high-risk can't get the shot.
I think it's good he's not getting preferential treatment. Really, these stories are just to stir the pot and create a story where none exisits. But that's cable news for you....
I agree that clearly it would be ALOT more disturbing if the media broadcasted "All sick children and Obama's children are getting the shot".. Yes ...that would be disturbing. However, the reality is it does happen and you do have to wonder why it isnt happening in this case. If he supports it surely you would think he would be able to get it. I dont think that V is way off on this one. I am not exactly in agreement with either side but I do think its questionable.
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Re: Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?
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Posted by Xelindrya
Lead by example.
If his daughters got the shot, the Fox news story would be alll about how he is getting special treatment since there is a shortage and some people who really want the shot and are high-risk can't get the shot.
I think it's good he's not getting preferential treatment. Really, these stories are just to stir the pot and create a story where none exisits. But that's cable news for you....
Yeah, ITA. Plus, as another poster said, it is the CDC that makes all of the decisions on what a medical crisis is...
To the OP, I am so confused by your posts, you don't want to be told to get it for your child, but the president should have to give it to his because he is the president? I don't get it. Right now, neither you, nor President Obama HAS to give their child this shot, so I don't see the problem here at all
I think her point is simply that he has stated originally he would get it for them. Now they cannot get it, as we said whether his stance has changed or it is simply supply and demand. But I think she feels that if we are being told it's safe, and we are to believe that, it is not very reassurring that the president may not get it for his daughters. You may not care what the president does, but other people may feel he is privvy to more information and expertise, and he is being guided by that. So, that's why she felt if he was advocating it (I have no idea if he was or wasnt), she would expect that he would get it for his daughters. And their age alone does put them in a high risk group, and should make them eligible for the shot.
Why assume he is lying? He would get it for them if it was available. It's not.
And that's not really true, they are healthy girls, they are not eligible at THIS time, like another poster said, most of our children are not either.
This is SUCH a no win situation for him. If he did get it for them (and they really aren't eligible), he'd get sh1t for it then, and I am willing to bet from the SAME people!
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Re: Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?
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This is SUCH a no win situation for him. If he did get it for them (and they really aren't eligible), he'd get sh1t for it then, and I am willing to bet from the SAME people!
yes, I agree...so predictable
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Re: Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?
Here in MD, my pediatrician's website announced that they were getting H1N1 shiots in on October 25th. Within 20 minutes every appointment was taken.
This vaccine is NOT easy to come by. Like a I previously stated, I have a student who is being kept home until 2 weeks after she is able to get the shot because she is medically fragile and we have had confirmed cases in my school.
As for pro or anti vaccine- I really don't care WHAT veronica's (or really anyone else's for that matter)stance is (though she loves to remind everyone at every chance she gets). She is absolutely entitled to her opinion. What makes me roll my eyes is when misinformation and ridiculous accusations are passed as fact. Nowhere have I read in her posted "articles" that Obama isn't choosing to give his kids the vaccine. And the snake oil comment is just funny- and not haha funny.
A boy just died a horrific death here in Maryland- and it was attributed to complications from the swine flu. The family is very much a part of our community and my heart aches for them. Because of that I've chosen to REALLY get educated on the matter and speak with healthcare professionals in addition to my own doctors to help make my decision.
I don't read/listen to Fox News nor follow what others are doing to educate myself on medical decisions.
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Re: Obama's kids aren't getting the swine flu shot?
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Why assume he is lying? He would get it for them if it was available. It's not.
And that's not really true, they are healthy girls, they are not eligible at THIS time, like another poster said, most of our children are not either.
This is SUCH a no win situation for him. If he did get it for them (and they really aren't eligible), he'd get sh1t for it then, and I am willing to bet from the SAME people!
B/c he is the president and I am quite sure if he wanted his two young daughters to get the vaccine, they could easily do so. As Veronica pointed out, if one of them were to get severely ill and become incapacitated for months, his train of thought and level of concentration may surely be effected. So, it is hard to believe they do not have "access" to the vaccine. Very hard. ANd they ARE in a high risk group, just based on age alone, once again. Some peds have it, some peds dont. Many peds have the mist vaccine. Even my ped has those, aren't his children of age for the mist? Esp if htey are healthy, they are the primary ones who would take the mist.
I am sure Obama could have ANYTHING he wants for his family, he is the president.
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Honestly I am a non Obama supporter but I have to commend him for not getting his kids vaccinated. I would have been pizzed had he gotten his kid vaccinated first when it is only available to certain people. I do believe however if the same people who are angry he didn't would be the first to jump on him if he had, because there is always fault to find with anyone in office. In my opinion it is everyone's right as AMERICANS to vaccinate their children or not. I don't really think anyone should chastize another parent for their choices.
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