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Alligator drags toddler into lagoon at Disney hotel
From what I see, most people seem to think Disney was more irresponsible, not the parents.
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Alligator drags toddler into lagoon at Disney hotel
I posted on the other thread- I am so heartbroken for this family. I look at my own two year old, we had the most magical time at Disney in February.
I think Disney does have some liability here. They knew the alligators were in the lagoon (and I was just at the poly in February and I had no idea there were alligators - I assumed that since it was a Disney made lake that they kept alligators out). They host nighttime events on the beach - hindsight is 20/20 but we need to learn from this so that beautiful boys death is not in vain.
I just can't imagine going on a Disney vacation and returning without my child.
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| Posted 6/16/16 6:45 AM |
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Re: Alligator drags toddler into lagoon at Disney hotel
Posted by gina409
Parents, I beg of you, stop blaming and shaming other parents.
35 years ago, a mom shopping in a Sears department store went to go look at lamps, and left her six year old with another group of boys, who were all trying out the new Atari game at a kiosk. That boy’s name was Adam Walsh.
30 years ago, an 18 month old toddler playing in her aunt’s backyard fell into a well. Rescuers worked nonstop for 58 hours, finally freeing “Baby Jessica” from the well.
In both cases a tragedy happened, an unforeseen tragic accident took place which left Adam dead, and a toddler fighting for her life deep underground. But they also has something else in common; they had an entire country of moms and dads supporting the grieving parents.
Let me repeat that, EVERYONE SUPPORTED THE RESCUE EFFORTS WITHOUT BLAME. NO BLAME. None. ZERO.
No questions asked, not one single “Where were the parents?” comment. Just a country of other moms and dads, grandmas and grandpas watching in horror as a set of parents, one of their own, went through the unthinkable. Adam was our son. Jessica was our baby daughter.
THOSE PARENTS WERE US.
Flash forward to 2016, the year of THE PERFECT PARENT.
Yesterday, a two year old boy, splashing in the magical lakefront waters of a Disney Resort, succumbed to the wilds of mother nature. An aggressive alligator scooped him out of the water, right under the watch of his father, who attempted to fight with the alligator to free his baby son. Pure horror. Sheer Terror. Parents who actually had to watch their baby be taken from them, as if in some African nature documentary.
A tragic and unforeseeable accident. An accident.
I weep for this mother and father. I am sick with anguish for the pain, agony, misery, and regret pulsating through their viens this very second. And I bet you are too.
But not everyone is.
You see, we now live in a time where accidents are not allowed happen. You heard me. Accidents, of any form, in any way, and at any time, well, they just don’t happen anymore.
Why? Because BLAME and SHAME.
Because we have become a nation of BLAMERS and SHAMERS.
And how are accidents allowed to happen if we can’t blame someone? Surly, they can’t, right? I mean, random acts of nature, unpreventable tragedies, and fateful life changing events that take place in a matter of nanoseconds cannot possibly take place if everyone is being a responsible parent, right? NOPE.
They can’t, because this country and its population of perfect pitchfork carrying mothers and fathers sitting behind keyboards needs to accuse. They NEED TO BLAME, to disparage, to criticize in every damn way and at every damn corner, the parenting of another.
And when do they really get to lick their blaming chops? When a tragic accident happens. That’s when the pouncing is at its freshest, when raw emotion and ignorance collide, and they dig their word claws in, and take hold of whatever grace these grieving mothers and fathers have left in their souls.
And then they tear it out.
Listen to me very clearly perfect parents, VERY CLEARLY.
I’VE HAD ENOUGH.
I’ve had enough of scrolling through comment threads and seeing over and over again questions like “Where were the parents?” and thoughts like, “This is what happens when you don’t watch your kids.”
I have simply HAD ENOUGH.
I have one question for the blaming and shaming moms and dads. You know the ones who immediately blame the parents, the ones who go on the internet and type comments like, “This is nothing but neglect by the parents,” and “They should have known better. Who was watching that little boy?” and my favorite, “I would never let that happen to my kid.”
Here is my question,
Have you ever been to a child’s funeral before?
I have.
The funeral of a child is an event in life that you never, ever want to experience.
Now let me ask you another question.
In the coming week these parents will fly back to their home in Nebraska without one of their children. They will leave a vacation resort, packing up his Buzz Lightyear pajamas and his favorite blanket, and they will make an excruciatingly difficult journey home. A journey that they never in a million years thought they would be making.
They will meet with a funeral director, pick out a tiny casket, a tiny burial suit, and surrounded by family, they will bury their baby boy.
And they will suffer every single day for the rest of their life.
At the funeral for this two year boy who died in front of his parents, can you do me a favor? Can you walk up to the mother and say the words that you just typed out last week? Can you? Can you greet her, hug her, shake the father’s hand and then say, “ Who was watching that little boy? You should have known better. I would never let that happen to MY child.”
Can you do that for me? I mean, you felt those words so deeply in your heart and soul that you typed them for a million people to read. Certainly you can say it straight to the faces of the people you meant it for, right?
Here, let me help you.
Put away your pitchfork for a moment and try this.
To the mother and father who went for a walk on vacation for the last time with their little boy yesterday, I am deeply sorry that you had to experience the worst kind of tragedy possible, an accident. I grieve with you. Your baby was my baby. Your son was my son. I have nothing but love for you, love to help you get though the pain yesterday, today, and for what is gonna seem like a thousand tomorrows. I wrap my thoughts and prayers around your aching heart and soul. May the God of this universe in some miraculous way bring peace to you and your family.
That is what you say. THAT. And just THAT.
Stop the blaming.
Stop the shaming.
In their darkest hours, can we please just LOVE other parents. Please?
I am not a super active poster here but I read a lot and I tend to stay away from stuff like this but I have to thank you for posting this. This is everything that I have been thinking and feeling and telling people in my office when they attempt to "attack" those poor parents since I woke up yesterday morning and heard this horrible news.
So thank you!
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| Posted 6/16/16 6:59 AM |
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Re: Alligator drags toddler into lagoon at Disney hotel
Posted by Katareen
From what I see, most people seem to think Disney was more irresponsible, not the parents.
On these boards, absolutely. But there is so much blame going around social media. I have seen some awful comments posted as responses to articles on Facebook, so many horrible comments on Twitter, etc. I can't believe how many people in this world have vilified these parents on the Internet
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Re: Alligator drags toddler into lagoon at Disney hotel
Posted by FirstMate
I see this as a tragic accident. I don't think anyone is to blame. This was a wild animal attack.
It makes me sick to think about that family having to get on a plane without their baby. To think that their exciting vacation was not only ruined but changed their lives so horrifically is just unfathomable. The last images of their son in their mind are of him in the jaws of a gator. Nobody should have to endure that nightmare. Ever.
I agree with this. It was just a accident. I don't feel there is blame on either side.
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Re: Alligator drags toddler into lagoon at Disney hotel
Posted by gina409
Not that I believe a blame game should even be occurring
But we all know how life and LIF goes
But..after reading these posts it's clearly obvious a no
Swimming signs does not mean the same to everyone
Doesn't make anyone smarter or a better parent
So why don't we all just pray for this family.
Such a tragedy
Thank you. I think people judge/ blame because the idea of losing your child so horrifically scares the hell out of any parent and the only way to cope with that anxiety is to say , " it would never happen to me".
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Re: Alligator drags toddler into lagoon at Disney hotel
Posted by gina409
Parents, I beg of you, stop blaming and shaming other parents.
35 years ago, a mom shopping in a Sears department store went to go look at lamps, and left her six year old with another group of boys, who were all trying out the new Atari game at a kiosk. That boy’s name was Adam Walsh.
30 years ago, an 18 month old toddler playing in her aunt’s backyard fell into a well. Rescuers worked nonstop for 58 hours, finally freeing “Baby Jessica” from the well.
In both cases a tragedy happened, an unforeseen tragic accident took place which left Adam dead, and a toddler fighting for her life deep underground. But they also has something else in common; they had an entire country of moms and dads supporting the grieving parents.
Let me repeat that, EVERYONE SUPPORTED THE RESCUE EFFORTS WITHOUT BLAME. NO BLAME. None. ZERO.
No questions asked, not one single “Where were the parents?” comment. Just a country of other moms and dads, grandmas and grandpas watching in horror as a set of parents, one of their own, went through the unthinkable. Adam was our son. Jessica was our baby daughter.
THOSE PARENTS WERE US.
Flash forward to 2016, the year of THE PERFECT PARENT.
Yesterday, a two year old boy, splashing in the magical lakefront waters of a Disney Resort, succumbed to the wilds of mother nature. An aggressive alligator scooped him out of the water, right under the watch of his father, who attempted to fight with the alligator to free his baby son. Pure horror. Sheer Terror. Parents who actually had to watch their baby be taken from them, as if in some African nature documentary.
A tragic and unforeseeable accident. An accident.
I weep for this mother and father. I am sick with anguish for the pain, agony, misery, and regret pulsating through their viens this very second. And I bet you are too.
But not everyone is.
You see, we now live in a time where accidents are not allowed happen. You heard me. Accidents, of any form, in any way, and at any time, well, they just don’t happen anymore.
Why? Because BLAME and SHAME.
Because we have become a nation of BLAMERS and SHAMERS.
And how are accidents allowed to happen if we can’t blame someone? Surly, they can’t, right? I mean, random acts of nature, unpreventable tragedies, and fateful life changing events that take place in a matter of nanoseconds cannot possibly take place if everyone is being a responsible parent, right? NOPE.
They can’t, because this country and its population of perfect pitchfork carrying mothers and fathers sitting behind keyboards needs to accuse. They NEED TO BLAME, to disparage, to criticize in every damn way and at every damn corner, the parenting of another.
And when do they really get to lick their blaming chops? When a tragic accident happens. That’s when the pouncing is at its freshest, when raw emotion and ignorance collide, and they dig their word claws in, and take hold of whatever grace these grieving mothers and fathers have left in their souls.
And then they tear it out.
Listen to me very clearly perfect parents, VERY CLEARLY.
I’VE HAD ENOUGH.
I’ve had enough of scrolling through comment threads and seeing over and over again questions like “Where were the parents?” and thoughts like, “This is what happens when you don’t watch your kids.”
I have simply HAD ENOUGH.
I have one question for the blaming and shaming moms and dads. You know the ones who immediately blame the parents, the ones who go on the internet and type comments like, “This is nothing but neglect by the parents,” and “They should have known better. Who was watching that little boy?” and my favorite, “I would never let that happen to my kid.”
Here is my question,
Have you ever been to a child’s funeral before?
I have.
The funeral of a child is an event in life that you never, ever want to experience.
Now let me ask you another question.
In the coming week these parents will fly back to their home in Nebraska without one of their children. They will leave a vacation resort, packing up his Buzz Lightyear pajamas and his favorite blanket, and they will make an excruciatingly difficult journey home. A journey that they never in a million years thought they would be making.
They will meet with a funeral director, pick out a tiny casket, a tiny burial suit, and surrounded by family, they will bury their baby boy.
And they will suffer every single day for the rest of their life.
At the funeral for this two year boy who died in front of his parents, can you do me a favor? Can you walk up to the mother and say the words that you just typed out last week? Can you? Can you greet her, hug her, shake the father’s hand and then say, “ Who was watching that little boy? You should have known better. I would never let that happen to MY child.”
Can you do that for me? I mean, you felt those words so deeply in your heart and soul that you typed them for a million people to read. Certainly you can say it straight to the faces of the people you meant it for, right?
Here, let me help you.
Put away your pitchfork for a moment and try this.
To the mother and father who went for a walk on vacation for the last time with their little boy yesterday, I am deeply sorry that you had to experience the worst kind of tragedy possible, an accident. I grieve with you. Your baby was my baby. Your son was my son. I have nothing but love for you, love to help you get though the pain yesterday, today, and for what is gonna seem like a thousand tomorrows. I wrap my thoughts and prayers around your aching heart and soul. May the God of this universe in some miraculous way bring peace to you and your family.
That is what you say. THAT. And just THAT.
Stop the blaming.
Stop the shaming.
In their darkest hours, can we please just LOVE other parents. Please?
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| Posted 6/16/16 8:07 AM |
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StaceyWill
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Re: Alligator drags toddler into lagoon at Disney hotel
Posted by MrsA1012
Posted by gina409
Not that I believe a blame game should even be occurring
But we all know how life and LIF goes
But..after reading these posts it's clearly obvious a no
Swimming signs does not mean the same to everyone
Doesn't make anyone smarter or a better parent
So why don't we all just pray for this family.
Such a tragedy
Thank you. I think people judge/ blame because the idea of losing your child so horrifically scares the hell out of any parent and the only way to cope with that anxiety is to say , " it would never happen to me".
ITA...I think people (myself included) tend to place "blame" because we HAVE to find a reason for something so horrific happening. Instead of the harsh reality that sometimes in life - horrific accidents JUST HAPPEN. I am guilty of it and honestly you guys really open my eyes sometimes. No one is really to blame. And instead of going 'there' when something like this happens - I'm going to go to a place of sadness and compassion.
My heart aches for the family and even for Disney. I am sure they are devastated as well.
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Re: Alligator drags toddler into lagoon at Disney hotel
Posted by StaceyWill
Posted by MrsA1012
Posted by gina409
Not that I believe a blame game should even be occurring
But we all know how life and LIF goes
But..after reading these posts it's clearly obvious a no
Swimming signs does not mean the same to everyone
Doesn't make anyone smarter or a better parent
So why don't we all just pray for this family.
Such a tragedy
Thank you. I think people judge/ blame because the idea of losing your child so horrifically scares the hell out of any parent and the only way to cope with that anxiety is to say , " it would never happen to me".
ITA...I think people (myself included) tend to place "blame" because we HAVE to find a reason for something so horrific happening. Instead of the harsh reality that sometimes in life - horrific accidents JUST HAPPEN. I am guilty of it and honestly you guys really open my eyes sometimes. No one is really to blame. And instead of going 'there' when something like this happens - I'm going to go to a place of sadness and compassion.
My heart aches for the family and even for Disney. I am sure they are devastated as well.
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Re: Alligator drags toddler into lagoon at Disney hotel
Message edited 6/16/2016 9:40:21 PM.
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Re: Alligator drags toddler into lagoon at Disney hotel
Posted by Take2
Posted by gina409
Parents, I beg of you, stop blaming and shaming other parents.
35 years ago, a mom shopping in a Sears department store went to go look at lamps, and left her six year old with another group of boys, who were all trying out the new Atari game at a kiosk. That boy’s name was Adam Walsh.
30 years ago, an 18 month old toddler playing in her aunt’s backyard fell into a well. Rescuers worked nonstop for 58 hours, finally freeing “Baby Jessica” from the well.
In both cases a tragedy happened, an unforeseen tragic accident took place which left Adam dead, and a toddler fighting for her life deep underground. But they also has something else in common; they had an entire country of moms and dads supporting the grieving parents.
Let me repeat that, EVERYONE SUPPORTED THE RESCUE EFFORTS WITHOUT BLAME. NO BLAME. None. ZERO.
No questions asked, not one single “Where were the parents?” comment. Just a country of other moms and dads, grandmas and grandpas watching in horror as a set of parents, one of their own, went through the unthinkable. Adam was our son. Jessica was our baby daughter.
THOSE PARENTS WERE US.
Flash forward to 2016, the year of THE PERFECT PARENT.
Yesterday, a two year old boy, splashing in the magical lakefront waters of a Disney Resort, succumbed to the wilds of mother nature. An aggressive alligator scooped him out of the water, right under the watch of his father, who attempted to fight with the alligator to free his baby son. Pure horror. Sheer Terror. Parents who actually had to watch their baby be taken from them, as if in some African nature documentary.
A tragic and unforeseeable accident. An accident.
I weep for this mother and father. I am sick with anguish for the pain, agony, misery, and regret pulsating through their viens this very second. And I bet you are too.
But not everyone is.
You see, we now live in a time where accidents are not allowed happen. You heard me. Accidents, of any form, in any way, and at any time, well, they just don’t happen anymore.
Why? Because BLAME and SHAME.
Because we have become a nation of BLAMERS and SHAMERS.
And how are accidents allowed to happen if we can’t blame someone? Surly, they can’t, right? I mean, random acts of nature, unpreventable tragedies, and fateful life changing events that take place in a matter of nanoseconds cannot possibly take place if everyone is being a responsible parent, right? NOPE.
They can’t, because this country and its population of perfect pitchfork carrying mothers and fathers sitting behind keyboards needs to accuse. They NEED TO BLAME, to disparage, to criticize in every damn way and at every damn corner, the parenting of another.
And when do they really get to lick their blaming chops? When a tragic accident happens. That’s when the pouncing is at its freshest, when raw emotion and ignorance collide, and they dig their word claws in, and take hold of whatever grace these grieving mothers and fathers have left in their souls.
And then they tear it out.
Listen to me very clearly perfect parents, VERY CLEARLY.
I’VE HAD ENOUGH.
I’ve had enough of scrolling through comment threads and seeing over and over again questions like “Where were the parents?” and thoughts like, “This is what happens when you don’t watch your kids.”
I have simply HAD ENOUGH.
I have one question for the blaming and shaming moms and dads. You know the ones who immediately blame the parents, the ones who go on the internet and type comments like, “This is nothing but neglect by the parents,” and “They should have known better. Who was watching that little boy?” and my favorite, “I would never let that happen to my kid.”
Here is my question,
Have you ever been to a child’s funeral before?
I have.
The funeral of a child is an event in life that you never, ever want to experience.
Now let me ask you another question.
In the coming week these parents will fly back to their home in Nebraska without one of their children. They will leave a vacation resort, packing up his Buzz Lightyear pajamas and his favorite blanket, and they will make an excruciatingly difficult journey home. A journey that they never in a million years thought they would be making.
They will meet with a funeral director, pick out a tiny casket, a tiny burial suit, and surrounded by family, they will bury their baby boy.
And they will suffer every single day for the rest of their life.
At the funeral for this two year boy who died in front of his parents, can you do me a favor? Can you walk up to the mother and say the words that you just typed out last week? Can you? Can you greet her, hug her, shake the father’s hand and then say, “ Who was watching that little boy? You should have known better. I would never let that happen to MY child.”
Can you do that for me? I mean, you felt those words so deeply in your heart and soul that you typed them for a million people to read. Certainly you can say it straight to the faces of the people you meant it for, right?
Here, let me help you.
Put away your pitchfork for a moment and try this.
To the mother and father who went for a walk on vacation for the last time with their little boy yesterday, I am deeply sorry that you had to experience the worst kind of tragedy possible, an accident. I grieve with you. Your baby was my baby. Your son was my son. I have nothing but love for you, love to help you get though the pain yesterday, today, and for what is gonna seem like a thousand tomorrows. I wrap my thoughts and prayers around your aching heart and soul. May the God of this universe in some miraculous way bring peace to you and your family.
That is what you say. THAT. And just THAT.
Stop the blaming.
Stop the shaming.
In their darkest hours, can we please just LOVE other parents. Please?
I am not a super active poster here but I read a lot and I tend to stay away from stuff like this but I have to thank you for posting this. This is everything that I have been thinking and feeling and telling people in my office when they attempt to "attack" those poor parents since I woke up yesterday morning and heard this horrible news.
So thank you!
THIS POST IS SPOT ON WORD FOR WORD.....i AM SO SICK OF THESE PARENTS WHO THINK THEY ARE PERFECT!!! REASON WHY I HARDLY EVER POST ON THESE BOARDS..........
BEST POST I HAVE EVER READ!!
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gina409
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Re: Alligator drags toddler into lagoon at Disney hotel
Just to clarify. I didn't write that
I copied and pasted from
A article I read on fb
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Re: Alligator drags toddler into lagoon at Disney hotel
Posted by gina409
Just to clarify. I didn't write that
I copied and pasted from
A article I read on fb
I shared that on fb too. It's so true. Dh and I are like that could have very early been dd. Also I've lived in FL and it doesn't matter if the child was in the water or right on the shore. Those suckers will attack. I hate when people say that would never happen. No one know when and what could happen till after the fact.
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Re: Alligator drags toddler into lagoon at Disney hotel
Also, I saw on fb someone post maybe the dad drowned the kid and the alligator was a made up story because the body was found closed to the shore and drowned. Um no asshole gators drown their prey and then let it soften in the water. I'm sure there was enough commotion that the gator was scared away but it was already too late.
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| Posted 6/16/16 4:15 PM |
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Re: Alligator drags toddler into lagoon at Disney hotel
I love this piece:
http://www.yourtango.com/2016290499/fathers-message-dad-who-lost-his-toddler-disney-alligator
And I agree that the shamers who come out of the woodwork to blame and brag are fundamentally BROKEN and pitiable.
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Alligator drags toddler into lagoon at Disney hotel
I'm still obsessed with this bc I can't get this family off of my mind. Has Disney said or offered any explanation as to the reasoning behind the beach that leads / faces a lagoon that is in an area (meaning state) that has gators present and widespread? Just curious as to their explanation. Not that I'm blaming Disney (And certainly not blaming the parents) but I am curious as to how "safe" they considered this area
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