|
Anyone watching the Baltimore riots?
| Posted By |
Message |
| Pages: 1 2 [3] 4 5 6 >> |
JoesWife628
Our family is complete :)
Member since 8/08 3934 total posts
Name:
Me
|
Re: Anyone watching the Baltimore riots?
Posted by Grill
A Must read for Whites who don't think they are racist and/or who don't believe in the power of white privilege. It's as alive as it ever has been. And until that changes.....white cops will always have more power than black cops and white criminals will always be more overlooked than black criminals. It is a flawed system and it's not at all an easy fix until EVERY white person confronts their racism and puts and end to what they learned from their grandparents. The civil rights movement was NOT that long ago. We are newborns in the evolution of equality.
Here's my question again....have you seen a reputable source that said the police who apprehended Gray were all white? Everything I'm reading has not confirmed the races/ethnicities of the police officers.
Eta: isn't it racist to assume all white people are racist?
Message edited 4/27/2015 10:47:55 PM.
|
Posted 4/27/15 10:46 PM  |
| |
|
Long Island Weddings
Long Island's Largest Bridal Resource |
Grill
LIF Adult
Member since 4/09 994 total posts
Name:
J
|
Re: Anyone watching the Baltimore riots?
The thing that really upsets me, is how the people who riot are saying this is their form of protest and that nothing will change, or the system is broken. You know what, the system is what you make of it. In the 1980s gay people were dragged by cars, hurt by the police, ostrich zed by society, etc. did they loot and riot? No. They figured out how to work the system and made the changes for themselves. If you think for one second how much hate and vitriol was expressed to the gay community, but did they do what these rioters are doing? No. They peacefully protested. They worked on changing the laws. And through that reasonable minds were persuaded that they were persecuted against. So to say, oh it will never change, or oh it is impossible, or oh those are some utopian glasses you are using, no that is not the truth. And to call things "privilege" everyone has their own struggles, and their own issues. Do some people have things easier, yes, but not everyone. It is not an us and them. If people work together then things can get accomplished.
Just out of curiosity....do you live in a racially diverse town? How many black children will your children go to school with? Yes...everyone has their own struggles, and there is individuality in suffering. But to be color blind and not think that your whiteness impacts your life positively and immensely is not an accurate picture. The system has always been against the black man and other minorities. They have the same struggles that we have and then they have the struggles that you and I could never, ever fathom because the system judges them differently and treats them differently. Please read the article I just posted above. I think you would probably be receptive to much of what it has to say.
|
| Posted 4/27/15 10:49 PM |
| |
|
LSP2005
Bunny kisses are so cute!
Member since 5/05 19458 total posts
Name:
L
|
Re: Anyone watching the Baltimore riots?
I live in an incredibly racially diverse town to the point that although white, we are not the majority in our school district. Eta and I am Jewish and have been the "victim" of antisemitisim numerous times, and have been held up at gun point by a black person, you know. Nothing about me. You are the prejudice one to think it is rainbows and sunshine all of the time for every white person.
Message edited 4/27/2015 10:55:32 PM.
|
| Posted 4/27/15 10:53 PM |
| |
|
Grill
LIF Adult
Member since 4/09 994 total posts
Name:
J
|
Re: Anyone watching the Baltimore riots?
Eta: isn't it racist to assume all white people are racist?
Nope. I don't think so. I think we all are or were at some point in our lives. Again....our grandparents had "Whites Only" water fountains and felt they deserved that. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree..and there's only been two trees since then!
|
| Posted 4/27/15 10:53 PM |
| |
|
JoesWife628
Our family is complete :)
Member since 8/08 3934 total posts
Name:
Me
|
Re: Anyone watching the Baltimore riots?
Posted by Grill
Eta: isn't it racist to assume all white people are racist?
Nope. I don't think so. I think we all are or were at some point in our lives. Again....our grandparents had "Whites Only" water fountains and felt they deserved that. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree..and there's only been two trees since then!
My tree must have crazy long branches then.
|
| Posted 4/27/15 10:54 PM |
| |
|
ElizaRags35
My 2 Girls
Member since 2/09 20494 total posts
Name:
Me
|
Re: Anyone watching the Baltimore riots?
Posted by Grill
Eta: isn't it racist to assume all white people are racist?
Nope. I don't think so. I think we all are or were at some point in our lives. Again....our grandparents had "Whites Only" water fountains and felt they deserved that. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree..and there's only been two trees since then!
|
| Posted 4/27/15 10:55 PM |
| |
|
ElizaRags35
My 2 Girls
Member since 2/09 20494 total posts
Name:
Me
|
Re: Anyone watching the Baltimore riots?
Posted by JoesWife628
Posted by Grill
Eta: isn't it racist to assume all white people are racist?
Nope. I don't think so. I think we all are or were at some point in our lives. Again....our grandparents had "Whites Only" water fountains and felt they deserved that. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree..and there's only been two trees since then!
My tree must have crazy long branches then.
|
| Posted 4/27/15 10:55 PM |
| |
|
Grill
LIF Adult
Member since 4/09 994 total posts
Name:
J
|
Re: Anyone watching the Baltimore riots?
My tree must have crazy long branches then.
|
| Posted 4/27/15 10:56 PM |
| |
|
TheLucille2
Yayicanpickmyowntitle!
Member since 6/11 1058 total posts
Name:
|
Re: Anyone watching the Baltimore riots?
Posted by Grill
The thing that really upsets me, is how the people who riot are saying this is their form of protest and that nothing will change, or the system is broken. You know what, the system is what you make of it. In the 1980s gay people were dragged by cars, hurt by the police, ostrich zed by society, etc. did they loot and riot? No. They figured out how to work the system and made the changes for themselves. If you think for one second how much hate and vitriol was expressed to the gay community, but did they do what these rioters are doing? No. They peacefully protested. They worked on changing the laws. And through that reasonable minds were persuaded that they were persecuted against. So to say, oh it will never change, or oh it is impossible, or oh those are some utopian glasses you are using, no that is not the truth. And to call things "privilege" everyone has their own struggles, and their own issues. Do some people have things easier, yes, but not everyone. It is not an us and them. If people work together then things can get accomplished.
Just out of curiosity....do you live in a racially diverse town? How many black children will your children go to school with? Yes...everyone has their own struggles, and there is individuality in suffering. But to be color blind and not think that your whiteness impacts your life positively and immensely is not an accurate picture. The system has always been against the black man and other minorities. They have the same struggles that we have and then they have the struggles that you and I could never, ever fathom because the system judges them differently and treats them differently. Please read the article I just posted above. I think you would probably be receptive to much of what it has to say.
It must be such a burden to be so enlightened and self aware!
|
| Posted 4/27/15 11:02 PM |
| |
|
PhyllisNJoe
My Box Is Broken
Member since 6/11 9145 total posts
Name:
Phyllis
|
Re: Anyone watching the Baltimore riots?
Posted by TheLucille2
Posted by Grill
The thing that really upsets me, is how the people who riot are saying this is their form of protest and that nothing will change, or the system is broken. You know what, the system is what you make of it. In the 1980s gay people were dragged by cars, hurt by the police, ostrich zed by society, etc. did they loot and riot? No. They figured out how to work the system and made the changes for themselves. If you think for one second how much hate and vitriol was expressed to the gay community, but did they do what these rioters are doing? No. They peacefully protested. They worked on changing the laws. And through that reasonable minds were persuaded that they were persecuted against. So to say, oh it will never change, or oh it is impossible, or oh those are some utopian glasses you are using, no that is not the truth. And to call things "privilege" everyone has their own struggles, and their own issues. Do some people have things easier, yes, but not everyone. It is not an us and them. If people work together then things can get accomplished.
Just out of curiosity....do you live in a racially diverse town? How many black children will your children go to school with? Yes...everyone has their own struggles, and there is individuality in suffering. But to be color blind and not think that your whiteness impacts your life positively and immensely is not an accurate picture. The system has always been against the black man and other minorities. They have the same struggles that we have and then they have the struggles that you and I could never, ever fathom because the system judges them differently and treats them differently. Please read the article I just posted above. I think you would probably be receptive to much of what it has to say.
It must be such a burden to be so enlightened and self aware!
|
| Posted 4/27/15 11:04 PM |
| |
|
JoesWife628
Our family is complete :)
Member since 8/08 3934 total posts
Name:
Me
|
Anyone watching the Baltimore riots?
I blame the media for fueling the great divide. Watch these news channels. White people are not scoffing at the rioters because they are black, they are scoffing because the media keeps showing people looting everything from clothes to Oreos, setting buildings and cars on fire, throwing rocks at police officers, cutting fire deparment hoses so fires cannot be extinguished, etc. They are interviewing those that put on the best "show" meaning those who are heated, aggressive and causing unimaginable damage to a well-known city. Why? Because it is boring to watch people speak calmly and hold up signs. Think about the difference between the riots in Baltimore/Ferguson vs the protests in NYC after Gardner's death. The news stations barely covered the NYC protests because there was nothing "exciting" to see. People of all colors are sitting home watching their tvs and classifying the rioters as "animals," "thugs," "hood rats"....not because they are black, but because they are destroying everything around them all while stealing oreos. So whereas you may believe that all white people are racist, these riots (and the media coverage) are doing nothing to bridge the gap.
|
| Posted 4/27/15 11:06 PM |
| |
|
2BadSoSad
LIF Adult
Member since 8/12 6791 total posts
Name:
|
Re: Anyone watching the Baltimore riots?
Posted by Grill
A Must read for Whites who don't think they are racist and/or who don't believe in the power of white privilege. It's as alive as it ever has been. And until that changes.....white cops will always have more power than black cops and white criminals will always be more overlooked than black criminals. It is a flawed system and it's not at all an easy fix until EVERY white person confronts their racism and puts and end to what they learned from their grandparents. The civil rights movement was NOT that long ago. We are newborns in the evolution of equality.
I disagree with this in that being born into white privilege and therefore taking advantage of all that has to offer makes me racist, even if indirectly. Do I live by racism taught by my grandparents, absolutely not, not at all. I was never taught that. Does it limit my ability to empathize, absolutely, but it does not make racist.
The part about racial comfort struck a chord though. I grew up in a predominantly white town, in a "good" school, where I can still count the # of minorities off the top of my head (and I spent my years dating one of the two black guys in school but was still very sheltered to what it meant to be in his shoes).
Then I left and went to Charleston for college, a beautiful city, but still SO blanketed with racism. Even in souvenir shops, there were figures of small black slave children eating watermelon in store windows. I cannot imagine living in a city where I was constantly reminded, even if not directly confronted with reminders of what the south once stood for. Those figures were one of the big catalysts for me leaving the city, I will never forget that.
Afterwards, I transferred home and went to college at NYIT in CI. I lived on campus, and was one of THREE white people in my dorm, the rest of the students, my peers were black. It was SO odd to have the tables turned and be the minority. It really brings the comfort you are so used to, to the forefront and you know what, it did make me uncomfortable bc I felt out of place, like I didnt belong. Not bc the other students treated me any differently, not bc they werent all kind to me, not bc they made comments about my race....NONE of that happened but to be in a room with 400 people and be one of three white people, that had never happened before. It was an interesting perspective. Now take that and make it a black persons daily life, to always be the minority, to always feel like you are being looked at or judged on a daily basis, its really eye opening.
So, take Charleston where you are a person who is looked upon as less, where "tokens" of slavery can be sold in store windows as souvenirs, where you are uncomfortable outside of your own community as the minority, where every.single.week. as of late, there has been a black man killed at the hands of a police officer, I can understand, I can. Does it make me racist, no way, I think thats a stretch.
It still doesnt make this OK, it is still not OK to turn on your own community. This is not the answer, turning on the police is not the way. People listen when you speak but they judge when you riot. Its a fine line between understanding their voices that they feel like havent been heard, they are ANGRY and not trying to understand and judging on what you see without looking at the big picture.
I dont understand this rioting, it just further cements the thoughts people are already having if they ARE racist and doesnt help. It gets you heard but not in the way you want. It damages your cause and does not inspire change, but I can understand (as best I can) the anger. I mean look at the media coverage, they are being referred to as thugs, hood rats, etc.....if the same thing happened in a white community, the media would not be using those terms. They just wouldnt be.
Racism, even veiled, still exists, it has too or we wouldnt be having this conversation right now.
I dont have the answers, I dont. I have no idea what to do about this. I dotn know what can be done to fix this. I know this isnt the way, it sends to wrong message, but I get it. I can feel their anger.
Message edited 4/27/2015 11:19:26 PM.
|
| Posted 4/27/15 11:12 PM |
| |
|
Grill
LIF Adult
Member since 4/09 994 total posts
Name:
J
|
Re: Anyone watching the Baltimore riots?
It must be such a burden to be so enlightened and self aware!
Haha. I wish! Self aware yes...but enlightened...not even close!
And 2BadSoSad.....Thanks so much for sharing that insightful response. I had similar experiences to you...realizing that White wasn't the end all be all and that I was just a color amidst many. I went to an HBCU (historically black college/university) for my grad work. That's where I started learning about my white privilege and challenging some deep seated racist notions I grew up with. It's something I still work on and would love to claim enlightenment...but sadly..or maybe naturally....I am a work in progress, as we all are.
Message edited 4/27/2015 11:18:47 PM.
|
| Posted 4/27/15 11:13 PM |
| |
|
Goobster
:)
Member since 5/07 27557 total posts
Name:
:)
|
Re: Anyone watching the Baltimore riots?
The people rioting did not have their OWN child killed. They are merely acting like animals, YES< animals, because they have been given a license to. It's all about certain kind of people taking advantage when the opportunity presents.
|
| Posted 4/27/15 11:19 PM |
| |
|
Goobster
:)
Member since 5/07 27557 total posts
Name:
:)
|
Re: Anyone watching the Baltimore riots?
Posted by JoesWife628
People of all colors are sitting home watching their tvs and classifying the rioters as "animals," "thugs," "hood rats"....not because they are black, but because they are destroying everything around them all while stealing oreos. So whereas you may believe that all white people are racist, these riots (and the media coverage) are doing nothing to bridge the gap.
|
| Posted 4/27/15 11:20 PM |
| |
|
Sweetlax22
LIF Adult
Member since 5/10 1904 total posts
Name:
|
Re: Anyone watching the Baltimore riots?
Posted by Grill
Racist, power hungry cops abusing their authority or the black man and his supporters finally rising up and expressing their rage and refusal to allow this to continue. Granted....destroying property and stealing will never solve the problem. They are harmful, useless actions...but a true solution or meaningful protest can not be accomplished lawfully because the law uses MURDER to control things. For all you white privileged persons out there condemning the actions of those whose lives have been forever changed by these police crimes....please, please, have some empathy. Step out of your privilege and imagine your child being murdered despite him or her NOT FIGHTING BACK. "Who gives a shit about your breathing". That's what a cop said when a dying man in custody said he couldn't breathe. He wasn't resisting. He wasn't a danger. He wasn't armed. He was struggling to breathe under the unnecessary physical force of those in uniform. I'm seriously so tired of hearing the group of people who are taking a stand being called "Animals". The Murderers are the real Animals...the police are out of line here and they need to stop taking away the lives of people who are not a life or death threat to them. When I hear white people condemn this group....it makes me so ashamed to be white myself. Imagine...really imagine if the tables were turned and the LAW, the GOVERNMENT...was against you, targeting you, punishing you and killing you moreso than your black counterparts doing the same things. It's just not ok. Condemning the riots only serves to deepen the divide. Black Lives Matter. And these Muderous Cops need to be held accountable in a court of law. When a death is ruled a homicide, charges need to be filed. They certainly would be if it were a black cop on a white man. So, please, enough complaining. Look in the mirror. If you can't see any rationale for this riotous behavior, then YOU are the problem. And until you confront your own racism, these things will continue. Property Destruction VS. Murder. It's a no brainer!
Property destruction vs murder......how about when a firefighter is seriously injured (or killed) putting out a fire that was set by people trying to destroy property to prove a point , doesn't that have the potential to be called murder?
|
| Posted 4/27/15 11:23 PM |
| |
|
Grill
LIF Adult
Member since 4/09 994 total posts
Name:
J
|
Re: Anyone watching the Baltimore riots?
Property destruction vs murder......how about when a firefighter is seriously injured (or killed) putting out a fire that was set by people trying to destroy property to prove a point , doesn't that have the potential to be called murder?
Yikes....No. No way. That fire does not contain any different properties than any other fire that firefighter works to put out. The heat, the structural integrity, the danger....they are all the same as any other fire this person chooses to fight.
Is it responsible and effective to start fires to "prove" a point? No. Not at all. But fortunately, this thread has shifted to the point that some readers are now expressing their empathy for the underlying feelings of those rioting. Of course it's a horrible tactic....but murder no. No hands were put on a firefighter, no oxygen deprived, no bones broken, no bullets shredded through skin. In the event a fire fighter dies....manslaughter POSSIBLY, but murder. No way. Those cops ALL murdered innocent until proven guilty men. And that's not ok. And when the law/government/police force (all synonymous here) doesn't work in your favor, EVER...humans have always reverted to violence to prove a point. Look at how many wars we wage...we have a long history of using violence to force an agenda. It's status quo in this country, and for all of mankind really. Is it wrong...yes! Is it all too human....yes! Is starting a fire to a building murder to a future firefighter....NO! Cops need to stop the sh*t or else the people will take back the power and the reasons for the 2nd amendment will become ever clearer!
Message edited 4/27/2015 11:33:41 PM.
|
| Posted 4/27/15 11:32 PM |
| |
|
JoesWife628
Our family is complete :)
Member since 8/08 3934 total posts
Name:
Me
|
Re: Anyone watching the Baltimore riots?
And to make matters even worse, the Baltimore Police Department released info on a credible threat that the Bloods, Crips and Black Guerilla Family Gang Members are putting differences aside and have entered into a partnership to "take out police officers." Now everyone, make sure you respect these gang members and don't think ill thoughts about them. They are black. If you think negatively of them, you are racist.
|
| Posted 4/27/15 11:35 PM |
| |
|
JoesWife628
Our family is complete :)
Member since 8/08 3934 total posts
Name:
Me
|
Re: Anyone watching the Baltimore riots?
Posted by Grill
Property destruction vs murder......how about when a firefighter is seriously injured (or killed) putting out a fire that was set by people trying to destroy property to prove a point , doesn't that have the potential to be called murder?
Yikes....No. No way. That fire does not contain any different properties than any other fire that firefighter works to put out. The heat, the structural integrity, the danger....they are all the same as any other fire this person chooses to fight.
Is it responsible and effective to start fires to "prove" a point? No. Not at all. But fortunately, this thread has shifted to the point that some readers are now expressing their empathy for the underlying feelings of those rioting. Of course it's a horrible tactic....but murder no. No hands were put on a firefighter, no oxygen deprived, no bones broken, no bullets shredded through skin. In the event a fire fighter dies....manslaughter POSSIBLY, but murder. No way. Those cops ALL murdered innocent until proven guilty men. And that's not ok. And when the law/government/police force (all synonymous here) doesn't work in your favor, EVER...humans have always reverted to violence to prove a point. Look at how many wars we wage...we have a long history of using violence to force an agenda. It's status quo in this country, and for all of mankind really. Is it wrong...yes! Is it all too human....yes! Is starting a fire to a building murder to a future firefighter....NO! Cops need to stop the sh*t or else the people will take back the power and the reasons for the 2nd amendment will become ever clearer!
So if an accelerant was used, which they often are in arson, it wouldn't change the property of the fire?
Eta: the rioters are cutting fire hoses putting firefighters in danger.
Message edited 4/27/2015 11:40:53 PM.
|
| Posted 4/27/15 11:38 PM |
| |
|
2BadSoSad
LIF Adult
Member since 8/12 6791 total posts
Name:
|
Re: Anyone watching the Baltimore riots?
I have to say, what DOES frighten me is the meeting of rival gangs to come together to turn on the police.
|
| Posted 4/27/15 11:41 PM |
| |
|
Grill
LIF Adult
Member since 4/09 994 total posts
Name:
J
|
Re: Anyone watching the Baltimore riots?
I have to say, what DOES frighten me is the meeting of rival gangs to come together to turn on the police.
So scary. And precisely the kind of thing I referred to when I mentioned the 2nd amendment. When large groups of people use violence against our government and our law enforcement in pursuit of a free state....we are in trouble. I don't know what else will stop the madness though. The collateral damage of government racism is real lives. the collateral damage of an uprising against said government will be real lives. No one wins. The burden of change is on the police force. No More Murders!
|
| Posted 4/27/15 11:46 PM |
| |
|
Sweetlax22
LIF Adult
Member since 5/10 1904 total posts
Name:
|
Re: Anyone watching the Baltimore riots?
Posted by JoesWife628
Posted by Grill
Property destruction vs murder......how about when a firefighter is seriously injured (or killed) putting out a fire that was set by people trying to destroy property to prove a point , doesn't that have the potential to be called murder?
Yikes....No. No way. That fire does not contain any different properties than any other fire that firefighter works to put out. The heat, the structural integrity, the danger....they are all the same as any other fire this person chooses to fight.
Is it responsible and effective to start fires to "prove" a point? No. Not at all. But fortunately, this thread has shifted to the point that some readers are now expressing their empathy for the underlying feelings of those rioting. Of course it's a horrible tactic....but murder no. No hands were put on a firefighter, no oxygen deprived, no bones broken, no bullets shredded through skin. In the event a fire fighter dies....manslaughter POSSIBLY, but murder. No way. Those cops ALL murdered innocent until proven guilty men. And that's not ok. And when the law/government/police force (all synonymous here) doesn't work in your favor, EVER...humans have always reverted to violence to prove a point. Look at how many wars we wage...we have a long history of using violence to force an agenda. It's status quo in this country, and for all of mankind really. Is it wrong...yes! Is it all too human....yes! Is starting a fire to a building murder to a future firefighter....NO! Cops need to stop the sh*t or else the people will take back the power and the reasons for the 2nd amendment will become ever clearer!
So if an accelerant was used, which they often are in arson, it wouldn't change the property of the fire?
Eta: the rioters are cutting fire hoses putting firefighters in danger.
Yupp, a fire started with an accelerant is much different than a fire started accidentally (electrical , cooking , or even unattended candles ).
It doesn't matter the reason the fire was started (mad at girlfriend , mad a cops, just a weirdo who likes fire) , if you set it and someone dies because of it it should be considered murder.
And yes, the rioters have cut fire hose, is that still considered "the same as any other fire this person chooses to fight" ? Last I checked the firefighters expect to have a reliable source of water........
|
| Posted 4/27/15 11:50 PM |
| |
|
gina409
TWINS!
Member since 12/09 27635 total posts
Name:
g
|
Re: Anyone watching the Baltimore riots?
Posted by ElizaRags35
Posted by Grill
Eta: isn't it racist to assume all white people are racist?
Nope. I don't think so. I think we all are or were at some point in our lives. Again....our grandparents had "Whites Only" water fountains and felt they deserved that. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree..and there's only been two trees since then!
I don't even know what to say 
|
| Posted 4/27/15 11:53 PM |
| |
|
Babyaholic
Thankful
Member since 6/09 1459 total posts
Name:
D
|
Re: Anyone watching the Baltimore riots?
Posted by Grill
Property destruction vs murder......how about when a firefighter is seriously injured (or killed) putting out a fire that was set by people trying to destroy property to prove a point , doesn't that have the potential to be called murder?
Yikes....No. No way. That fire does not contain any different properties than any other fire that firefighter works to put out. The heat, the structural integrity, the danger....they are all the same as any other fire this person chooses to fight.
Is it responsible and effective to start fires to "prove" a point? No. Not at all. But fortunately, this thread has shifted to the point that some readers are now expressing their empathy for the underlying feelings of those rioting. Of course it's a horrible tactic....but murder no. No hands were put on a firefighter, no oxygen deprived, no bones broken, no bullets shredded through skin. In the event a fire fighter dies....manslaughter POSSIBLY, but murder. No way. Those cops ALL murdered innocent until proven guilty men. And that's not ok. And when the law/government/police force (all synonymous here) doesn't work in your favor, EVER...humans have always reverted to violence to prove a point. Look at how many wars we wage...we have a long history of using violence to force an agenda. It's status quo in this country, and for all of mankind really. Is it wrong...yes! Is it all too human....yes! Is starting a fire to a building murder to a future firefighter....NO! Cops need to stop the sh*t or else the people will take back the power and the reasons for the 2nd amendment will become ever clearer!
Using your logic, all the firemen that were MURDERED on 9/11 weren't really murdered. They were just doing their job, sucks they got killed doing it but hey they signed up for the job.
Your comments reek of anti cop sentiments. All those murderous cops are innocent until proven guilty as well.
I do not condone what has taken place, but change needs to happen on both sides. The communities and the cops. It takes two...
|
| Posted 4/27/15 11:56 PM |
| |
|
2BadSoSad
LIF Adult
Member since 8/12 6791 total posts
Name:
|
Re: Anyone watching the Baltimore riots?
Look, I come from a LONG LONG line of FDNY and NYPD - I still have a TON of family who serve, every day. I fear for them, I do. They are good people, who would never kill a man bc of their race. They are not one of the bad apples, but they are being judged as a whole by the actions of some.
It is kind of the same, the black men killed, the ones unjustly at the hands of officers, were killed by bad apples. Now they are rioting. Again, its not the way, but they are angry bc people in their communities are killed, bc they have been victims, even if on a smaller scale at the hands of the police. Are they not judged as a whole now bc of some bad apples?
NO ONE deserves to die unless they are threatened, NO ONE, on either side. But some in the black communities have formed an impression of law enforcement as a whole bc of bad apples, but some of these same officers have done the same and that is why this keeps happening.
We can discuss the minutia until we all go to bed tonight but Grill is right, racism exists (although I do not agree we are all inherently racist). I think, and pardon me Grill, but if she expressed her point without calling us racist and instead try to drive home the point that there IS white privilege and that blacks ARE targeted (not that we are all racist) we couldve seen the bigger message.
There a GOOD people in these communities who are currnently at their churches, with their leaders, trying to find a better way, but just as we are all human, we do not all react the same. Rioting is NOT OK, hurting the police and firemen is NOT OK but neither is killing suspects when they pose no immediate threat.
People are angry and heated on BOTH sides and I can see that and I understand BOTH sides. What you can take from Grills posts, is that there IS white privilege, which is NOT the same as racism and despite the deplorable actions of some, is that TRY, just TRY to put yourselves in their shoes. I can understand, while still thinking its COMPLETELY wrong and counter productive, why the rioting happens. They feel like they have NO VOICE.
I pray for everyone involved.
Message edited 4/28/2015 12:12:28 AM.
|
| Posted 4/28/15 12:05 AM |
| |
|
| Pages: 1 2 [3] 4 5 6 >> |
Potentially Related Topics:
Currently 157953 users on the LIFamilies.com Chat
|
Long Island Bridal Shows
|
