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Summergirl
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Re: Anyone watching the Baltimore riots?
Posted by Grill
Guys...OMG...The way you talk about someone is just as disturbing as the way you feel I come off harshly. I am genuinely disgusted by yet another murder. I would never break a child's spine..but my point was that no one deserves that to happen under any circumstance and that poor soul is someone's son. The poster that I wrote that too was so callous and insensitive to it being a LIFE....a life of someone that was brutally and irresponsibly taken at the hands of another police officer. I was trying to make a point. And clearly, it roused many of you up. To focus on that though is just inane...it misses the entire point of this thread and, in typical white fashion....it distracts oneself and others from really considering the possibility that you, your family and your lifestyle contribute to the perpetuation of white privilege.
I am definitely a  when it comes to the injustice and harm that people have to suffer on account of other's belief systems. Call me what you will, research me, PM me.....I am a moral and upstanding member of a great LI community and I have strong views. This post is not about me. And again...I'm sorry that my intense words took the real meaning away from the thread.
Martin Luther King, Jr. once said that "A Riot is the Language of the Unheard". And that is what is happening hear. There are many people on this thread who have addressed their white-born racism and privilege and moved on to a more egalitarian life and many who have really yet to do just that. And it is to you that I write such intense words. You are still unable to hear the main points of the rioters arguments and stay focused on their actions only. Time to look in the mirror instead of outwards towards others.
Seriously.... Don't project your white guilt on someone else's innocent child. Like a previous poster said, there were other ways to make your point other than that vile comment about actually breaking a child's spine. Or Is it ok to you because the child is the child of someone "privileged and white"( in your opinion)?
There is NO EXCUSE for a comment like that despite how angry you are , just like there is NO EXCUSE for looting and destroying a city because you are angry. It's really VERY hypocritical that you feel this way and could make a comment like that since you claim to be against violence and are so angered by it in this instance.
Your comment stated about a CHILD especially on a forum like Long Island FAMILIES ( families being the key word) is extra horrible in my opinion...And there's no back peddling or excusing it. Oh but I guess you were misunderstood, or taken out of context, just like the mayor of Batimore's comments about letting the looters have their space were misunderstood.  I can't even take anything seriously that you say because you are so hypocritical and judgemental. Then your only excuse for those who get angry about your ignorant , disgusting comment is that we are racist and privileged and can't see past that. You don't know any of us to make those statements.
You owe that mom a huge apology. I'm pissed reading that comment and it isn't about my kid. I can't imagine how she must feel. You have so much empathy for an African American MAN being someone's son..... Well guess what ...that INNOCENT CHILD you made the comment about is someone's child, too!
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Anyone watching the Baltimore riots?
Every time something like this happens its always the same arguments. Maybe they need to take a look at the root of the issues and not the issue themselves. Don't do something to get yourself arrested and if you do, do not resist arrest. That way if a cop does do something illegal, they can be prosecuted correctly. Don't teach the kids to hate cops, teach them to respect them and listen to them. So many of these issues would be alleviated if people were just taught respect. If the people hate the police that much, then I would stop policing them. Its not worth the lives of innocent men and women to go into the area they are not wanted.
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Grill
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Re: Anyone watching the Baltimore riots?
His criminal record is full of drug possession....nothing violent. He was a menace to himself mostly. He likely needed rehabilitation and the opportunity to have a good job....two things that America does not provide very well to african americans. He needed help not to be murdered for his drug crimes. I mean...to even post his drug record and suggest that his murder is somehow justifiable is just horrible. His criminal record also Reeks of white privilege. For each of Mr. Gray's arrests, there are a ton of white druggies that have been overlooked by white cops or treated more humanely. His criminal actions are a symptom of a much larger problem within this country. If he could earn more than $8/hour then he would likely not need to sell drugs to survive. I would absolutely take to something illegal if my only option was to work 40 hours a week and bring home about $250 after taxes. Maybe if his early childhood learning disabilities were properly attended to, he may not have fallen through the cracks. No matter how you twist it, this man was a victim of circumstances much too big for ANY free will to help him overcome such obstacles. Again...white privilege at work here. The punishment does not fit the crime. These cops deserve to spend the rest of their lives in prison.
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KristenRSF
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Re: Anyone watching the Baltimore riots?
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by KristenRSF
Here's an idea, don't break the f*cking law and you wont get tossed head first into a police van.
Look at what a law abiding citizen sweet Freddie was. FOH.
March 20, 2015: Possession of a Controlled Dangerous Substance
March 13, 2015: Malicious destruction of property, second-degree assault
January 20, 2015: Fourth-degree burglary, trespassing
January 14, 2015: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance, possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to distribute
December 31, 2014: Possession of narcotics with intent to distribute
December 14, 2014: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance
August 31, 2014: Illegal gambling, trespassing
January 25, 2014: Possession of marijuana
September 28, 2013: Distribution of narcotics, unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance, second-degree assault, second-degree escape
April 13, 2012: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to distribute, unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance, violation of probation
July 16, 2008: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance, possession with intent to distribute
March 28, 2008: Unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance
March 14, 2008: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to manufacture and distribute
February 11, 2008: Unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance, possession of a controlled dangerous substance
August 29, 2007: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to distribute, violation of probation
August 28, 2007: Possession of marijuana
August 23, 2007: False statement to a peace officer, unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance
July 16, 2007: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to distribute, unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance (2 counts)
For once ( ), I actually agree with you.
Law abiding citizens don't have issues with cops. Ever.
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That just made me laugh. LOL
Glad you agree!
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BargainMama
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Anyone watching the Baltimore riots?
"White Privilege".....is that the new catchy phrase like "fat shaming"?
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Re: Anyone watching the Baltimore riots?
Posted by Grill
His criminal record is full of drug possession....nothing violent. He was a menace to himself mostly. He likely needed rehabilitation and the opportunity to have a good job....two things that America does not provide very well to african americans. He needed help not to be murdered for his drug crimes. I mean...to even post his drug record and suggest that his murder is somehow justifiable is just horrible. His criminal record also Reeks of white privilege. For each of Mr. Gray's arrests, there are a ton of white druggies that have been overlooked by white cops or treated more humanely. His criminal actions are a symptom of a much larger problem within this country. If he could earn more than $8/hour then he would likely not need to sell drugs to survive. I would absolutely take to something illegal if my only option was to work 40 hours a week and bring home about $250 after taxes. Maybe if his early childhood learning disabilities were properly attended to, he may not have fallen through the cracks. No matter how you twist it, this man was a victim of circumstances much too big for ANY free will to help him overcome such obstacles. Again...white privilege at work here. The punishment does not fit the crime. These cops deserve to spend the rest of their lives in prison.
How do you explain the majority of minorities/African-Americans who live in poverty, but yet choose not to sell drugs, steal or assault others???
And police officers are not going to overlook a repeat offender, regardless of color, when it comes to drugs. Clearly Freddie Gray was familiar with the Baltimore PD. (For all you know, he may have been given a couple of "free passes" in the beginning in the hopes that he would straighten his act out.)
This is not to say his death shouldn't be investigated.
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Unrelated to the above post:
I thought I read they picked up another prisoner after arresting Gray. Has anything been said about him? (I'm not trying to indicate he did anything, but rather has he stated what the ride was like or what was Gray's condition like in the van.)
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Re: Anyone watching the Baltimore riots?
Posted by Grill
His criminal record is full of drug possession....nothing violent. He was a menace to himself mostly. He likely needed rehabilitation and the opportunity to have a good job....two things that America does not provide very well to african americans. He needed help not to be murdered for his drug crimes. I mean...to even post his drug record and suggest that his murder is somehow justifiable is just horrible. His criminal record also Reeks of white privilege. For each of Mr. Gray's arrests, there are a ton of white druggies that have been overlooked by white cops or treated more humanely. His criminal actions are a symptom of a much larger problem within this country. If he could earn more than $8/hour then he would likely not need to sell drugs to survive. I would absolutely take to something illegal if my only option was to work 40 hours a week and bring home about $250 after taxes. Maybe if his early childhood learning disabilities were properly attended to, he may not have fallen through the cracks. No matter how you twist it, this man was a victim of circumstances much too big for ANY free will to help him overcome such obstacles. Again...white privilege at work here. The punishment does not fit the crime. These cops deserve to spend the rest of their lives in prison.
Wait. Am I understanding this
You are defending him being a drug dealer?
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Grill
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Re: Anyone watching the Baltimore riots?
And there's no back peddling or excusing it.
Summergirl...please settle down. I stand behind my all of my words...they were hypothetical to make a point...that being, that the poster would likely act less than dignified if it were her child's spine broken. If you can't see that and are taking my comment literally, then I honestly can not engage in a meaningful conversation with you. Your post was full of rash and untrue assumptions about me (similar to the mechanics that cause racism BTW). So, please reconsider some of your statements. I am not angry. I am not threatening violence. I am not condoning violence. I do think that every white person who didn't grow up as a minority among other cultures or who lived in a predominantly white home is or was once a racist.
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BargainMama
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Re: Anyone watching the Baltimore riots?
Posted by Grill
And there's no back peddling or excusing it.
I do think that every white person who didn't grow up as a minority among other cultures or who lived in a predominantly white home is or was once a racist.
Seriously?
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Re: Anyone watching the Baltimore riots?
Posted by BargainMama
Posted by Grill
And there's no back peddling or excusing it.
I do think that every white person who didn't grow up as a minority among other cultures or who lived in a predominantly white home is or was once a racist.
Seriously?
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JoesWife628
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Re: Anyone watching the Baltimore riots?
Posted by Grill
His criminal record is full of drug possession....nothing violent. He was a menace to himself mostly. He likely needed rehabilitation and the opportunity to have a good job....two things that America does not provide very well to african americans. He needed help not to be murdered for his drug crimes. I mean...to even post his drug record and suggest that his murder is somehow justifiable is just horrible. His criminal record also Reeks of white privilege. For each of Mr. Gray's arrests, there are a ton of white druggies that have been overlooked by white cops or treated more humanely. His criminal actions are a symptom of a much larger problem within this country. If he could earn more than $8/hour then he would likely not need to sell drugs to survive. I would absolutely take to something illegal if my only option was to work 40 hours a week and bring home about $250 after taxes. Maybe if his early childhood learning disabilities were properly attended to, he may not have fallen through the cracks. No matter how you twist it, this man was a victim of circumstances much too big for ANY free will to help him overcome such obstacles. Again...white privilege at work here. The punishment does not fit the crime. These cops deserve to spend the rest of their lives in prison.
So let me get this straight...he was failed his entire life. His disabilities were not tended to so he was never able to overcome them, thus forcing him to become a drug dealer, because he didn't make enough money to live off of? And this is all because white people suppressed him with their sense of white privilege? You know, you're right. Everybody who is having financial difficulties should become drug dealers. They should not work a second job, work as hard as possible to move up. Who wants to work hard? Let's just take to the streets and deal drugs. Then when we have constant run-ins with the law, we can say it's because white people are entitled.
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Re: Anyone watching the Baltimore riots?
People who make sweeping generalizations about ANY race are racist IMO.
Just saying....
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Summergirl
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Re: Anyone watching the Baltimore riots?
Posted by Grill
And there's no back peddling or excusing it.
Summergirl...please settle down. I stand behind my all of my words...they were hypothetical to make a point...that being, that the poster would likely act less than dignified if it were her child's spine broken. If you can't see that and are taking my comment literally, then I honestly can not engage in a meaningful conversation with you. Your post was full of rash and untrue assumptions about me (similar to the mechanics that cause racism BTW). So, please reconsider some of your statements. I am not angry. I am not threatening violence. I am not condoning violence. I do think that every white person who didn't grow up as a minority among other cultures or who lived in a predominantly white home is or was once a racist.
I won't settle down . Your comment was disgusting , hateful and so offensive! And I can't engage in a conversation with anyone who talks out both sides of their mouths speaking how presumed violence against an adult in police custody(the altar boy with the above record an arm's length long) is horrific against someone's son, but states how they would like to break a child's back ... AND refuses to apologize to that child's mom. Way to go! I'm not saying you threatened that child, but who says something like that, and doesn't apologize? Not someone trying to appear civilized. There was a way to say it to get your point across, which you didn't, you went there with someone's kid.. That's bad enough. But now you think there's nothing wrong with that comment, and you stand behind it, instead of trying to apologize. Give me a break... This country is going to hell in a handbag and it isn't necessarily because of "white privilege". Dr. King must be rolling over in his grave.
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Summergirl
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Anyone watching the Baltimore riots?
And I won't even get into the ignorance in the rest of your statement where you generalize that those who grew up in a white household are racist. Sounds like you may be the racist.
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Re: Anyone watching the Baltimore riots?
Posted by JoesWife628
Posted by Grill
His criminal record is full of drug possession....nothing violent. He was a menace to himself mostly. He likely needed rehabilitation and the opportunity to have a good job....two things that America does not provide very well to african americans. He needed help not to be murdered for his drug crimes. I mean...to even post his drug record and suggest that his murder is somehow justifiable is just horrible. His criminal record also Reeks of white privilege. For each of Mr. Gray's arrests, there are a ton of white druggies that have been overlooked by white cops or treated more humanely. His criminal actions are a symptom of a much larger problem within this country. If he could earn more than $8/hour then he would likely not need to sell drugs to survive. I would absolutely take to something illegal if my only option was to work 40 hours a week and bring home about $250 after taxes. Maybe if his early childhood learning disabilities were properly attended to, he may not have fallen through the cracks. No matter how you twist it, this man was a victim of circumstances much too big for ANY free will to help him overcome such obstacles. Again...white privilege at work here. The punishment does not fit the crime. These cops deserve to spend the rest of their lives in prison.
So let me get this straight...he was failed his entire life. His disabilities were not tended to so he was never able to overcome them, thus forcing him to become a drug dealer, because he didn't make enough money to live off of? And this is all because white people suppressed him with their sense of white privilege? You know, you're right. Everybody who is having financial difficulties should become drug dealers. They should not work a second job, work as hard as possible to move up. Who wants to work hard? Let's just take to the streets and deal drugs. Then when we have constant run-ins with the law, we can say it's because white people are entitled.
I agree. That is the problem right there. The victim mentality. It may not be PC to say but it's the truth. I didn't grow up in an all white suburb and I see it where I live all the time.
This is America 2015. There are plenty of opportunities for all you just want to have to work and take them. Dig deep and work hard. Colleges are everywhere and if you're not into school there are plenty of trades that you can learn that pay well.
There are a lot of successful black people..I work with plenty of them. Black men and women who grew up under privileged but decided to break the cycle and make something out of themselves to better themselves and their families. Guess what..they had obstacles too..little money, bad neighborhoods, bad schools but they did what they had to to break the cycle and today they are successful and have gone far and beyond many of their white peers.
It's not only black people. I am a minority (hispanic). When I grew up none of my friends came from $$ or went to fancy schools. All of us were from struggling single parent households. Some of us went to schools that were considered troubled and guess what we ALL kept going forward. None of us even dreamed of breaking the law to live. All of us have jobs and are doing well..some of us VERY well.
The bottom line is that you choose to break the law. It's a choice. Of course the cops know all the NON-law abiding citizens. Why are we so quick to dismiss his rap sheet? He wasn't hurting anyone selling drugs or committing burglary? Give me a break.
I'm very sorry that he died the way he did and of course an investigation needs to be done but when you start acting like wild animals looting, burning and terrorizing your own city the city you live in, your neighbors, places of business that employ your peers, think about what type of message you're sending out?
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Ayne11
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Anyone watching the Baltimore riots?
Everyone has a choice... You either choose to be a criminal or you choose not to be.
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Summergirl
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Re: Anyone watching the Baltimore riots?
Posted by jellybean78
Posted by JoesWife628
Posted by Grill
His criminal record is full of drug possession....nothing violent. He was a menace to himself mostly. He likely needed rehabilitation and the opportunity to have a good job....two things that America does not provide very well to african americans. He needed help not to be murdered for his drug crimes. I mean...to even post his drug record and suggest that his murder is somehow justifiable is just horrible. His criminal record also Reeks of white privilege. For each of Mr. Gray's arrests, there are a ton of white druggies that have been overlooked by white cops or treated more humanely. His criminal actions are a symptom of a much larger problem within this country. If he could earn more than $8/hour then he would likely not need to sell drugs to survive. I would absolutely take to something illegal if my only option was to work 40 hours a week and bring home about $250 after taxes. Maybe if his early childhood learning disabilities were properly attended to, he may not have fallen through the cracks. No matter how you twist it, this man was a victim of circumstances much too big for ANY free will to help him overcome such obstacles. Again...white privilege at work here. The punishment does not fit the crime. These cops deserve to spend the rest of their lives in prison.
So let me get this straight...he was failed his entire life. His disabilities were not tended to so he was never able to overcome them, thus forcing him to become a drug dealer, because he didn't make enough money to live off of? And this is all because white people suppressed him with their sense of white privilege? You know, you're right. Everybody who is having financial difficulties should become drug dealers. They should not work a second job, work as hard as possible to move up. Who wants to work hard? Let's just take to the streets and deal drugs. Then when we have constant run-ins with the law, we can say it's because white people are entitled.
I agree. That is the problem right there. The victim mentality. It may not be PC to say but it's the truth. I didn't grow up in an all white suburb and I see it where I live all the time.
This is America 2015. There are plenty of opportunities for all you just want to have to work and take them. Dig deep and work hard. Colleges are everywhere and if you're not into school there are plenty of trades that you can learn that pay well.
There are a lot of successful black people..I work with plenty of them. Black men and women who grew up under privileged but decided to break the cycle and make something out of themselves to better themselves and their families. Guess what..they had obstacles too..little money, bad neighborhoods, bad schools but they did what they had to to break the cycle and today they are successful and have gone far and beyond many of their white peers.
It's not only black people. I am a minority (hispanic). When I grew up none of my friends came from $$ or went to fancy schools. All of us were from struggling single parent households. Some of us went to schools that were considered troubled and guess what we ALL kept going forward. None of us even dreamed of breaking the law to live. All of us have jobs and are doing well..some of us VERY well.
The bottom line is that you choose to break the law. It's a choice. Of course the cops know all the NON-law abiding citizens. Why are we so quick to dismiss his rap sheet? He wasn't hurting anyone selling drugs or committing burglary? Give me a break.
I'm very sorry that he died the way he did and of course an investigation needs to be done but when you start acting like wild animals looting, burning and terrorizing your own city the city you live in, your neighbors, places of business that employ your peers, think about what type of message you're sending out?
Very well said!
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Re: Anyone watching the Baltimore riots?
Posted by BargainMama
Posted by Grill
And there's no back peddling or excusing it.
I do think that every white person who didn't grow up as a minority among other cultures or who lived in a predominantly white home is or was once a racist.
Seriously?
Yeah!! Seriously ???? You don't even know us. Do you realize how you sound here??
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Re: Anyone watching the Baltimore riots?
Posted by LeeCR7
There is no excuse for rioting, and as many of you have pointed out, most of the rioters are taking advantage for their own paltry gain rather than to make any political point. It is disgusting to so dishonor the man who died with petty theft and destructiveness. No question, no argument from me.
However....
sitting here judging them, blaming the family of the deceased (who, by the way, repeatedly called for peaceful protests as well as planning a peace walk for Friday) is also wrong.
Who among us can really claim to understand how they are feeling, to see person after person of our race killed by a police officer, oftentimes, it seems, without justification? How can it feel to constantly feel like justice is forever out of your reach?
I don't know, and I never will. But I have compassion for their anger, although not for the way that some are expressing it.
Using words like "thug" and "hood" are needlessly inflammatory, in my opinion. These are words that have deep negative resonance to the black community (I would never presume to speak for anyone, but I am making that statement based on reactions both here and in real life.). These are words that, historically, have been used to dehumanize African Americans. Even if these rioters are 100% wrong, which I believe they are, we don't have to make it worse for the people who are seeing their cause morphed into a violence they neither wanted nor agreed with. And they are human, not animals. The worst of humans, certainly, but humans nonetheless.
My 5 year old's best friend is a little black boy. His mom and I have had many great discussion about race. Her son is going to be very tall. And she's afraid of that, because it will make him seem older, which will make him more of a target. Can you imagine being afraid your kid is going to be too tall? I can't.
I guess my plea is for some thoughtfulness; rioting like this is inexcusable, and those participating should be caught and punished. But the anger it stems from is justified, and we must, as a country, rise up to meet it in a just and American way.
Very well said
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Re: Anyone watching the Baltimore riots?
Posted by clotheshorse
Posted by BargainMama
Posted by Grill
And there's no back peddling or excusing it.
I do think that every white person who didn't grow up as a minority among other cultures or who lived in a predominantly white home is or was once a racist.
Seriously?
Yeah!! Seriously ???? You don't even know us. Do you realize how you sound here??
Exactly
So with that logic Grill - you were at one time a racist... You grew up on Long Island, not Compton
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Re: Anyone watching the Baltimore riots?
Posted by Summergirl
Posted by jellybean78
Posted by JoesWife628
Posted by Grill
His criminal record is full of drug possession....nothing violent. He was a menace to himself mostly. He likely needed rehabilitation and the opportunity to have a good job....two things that America does not provide very well to african americans. He needed help not to be murdered for his drug crimes. I mean...to even post his drug record and suggest that his murder is somehow justifiable is just horrible. His criminal record also Reeks of white privilege. For each of Mr. Gray's arrests, there are a ton of white druggies that have been overlooked by white cops or treated more humanely. His criminal actions are a symptom of a much larger problem within this country. If he could earn more than $8/hour then he would likely not need to sell drugs to survive. I would absolutely take to something illegal if my only option was to work 40 hours a week and bring home about $250 after taxes. Maybe if his early childhood learning disabilities were properly attended to, he may not have fallen through the cracks. No matter how you twist it, this man was a victim of circumstances much too big for ANY free will to help him overcome such obstacles. Again...white privilege at work here. The punishment does not fit the crime. These cops deserve to spend the rest of their lives in prison.
So let me get this straight...he was failed his entire life. His disabilities were not tended to so he was never able to overcome them, thus forcing him to become a drug dealer, because he didn't make enough money to live off of? And this is all because white people suppressed him with their sense of white privilege? You know, you're right. Everybody who is having financial difficulties should become drug dealers. They should not work a second job, work as hard as possible to move up. Who wants to work hard? Let's just take to the streets and deal drugs. Then when we have constant run-ins with the law, we can say it's because white people are entitled.
I agree. That is the problem right there. The victim mentality. It may not be PC to say but it's the truth. I didn't grow up in an all white suburb and I see it where I live all the time.
This is America 2015. There are plenty of opportunities for all you just want to have to work and take them. Dig deep and work hard. Colleges are everywhere and if you're not into school there are plenty of trades that you can learn that pay well.
There are a lot of successful black people..I work with plenty of them. Black men and women who grew up under privileged but decided to break the cycle and make something out of themselves to better themselves and their families. Guess what..they had obstacles too..little money, bad neighborhoods, bad schools but they did what they had to to break the cycle and today they are successful and have gone far and beyond many of their white peers.
It's not only black people. I am a minority (hispanic). When I grew up none of my friends came from $$ or went to fancy schools. All of us were from struggling single parent households. Some of us went to schools that were considered troubled and guess what we ALL kept going forward. None of us even dreamed of breaking the law to live. All of us have jobs and are doing well..some of us VERY well.
The bottom line is that you choose to break the law. It's a choice. Of course the cops know all the NON-law abiding citizens. Why are we so quick to dismiss his rap sheet? He wasn't hurting anyone selling drugs or committing burglary? Give me a break.
I'm very sorry that he died the way he did and of course an investigation needs to be done but when you start acting like wild animals looting, burning and terrorizing your own city the city you live in, your neighbors, places of business that employ your peers, think about what type of message you're sending out?
Very well said!
Yes very well said!
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| Posted 4/28/15 11:18 AM |
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NervousNell
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..being a mommy and being a wife!
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Re: Anyone watching the Baltimore riots?
Posted by clotheshorse
Posted by BargainMama
Posted by Grill
And there's no back peddling or excusing it.
I do think that every white person who didn't grow up as a minority among other cultures or who lived in a predominantly white home is or was once a racist.
Seriously?
Yeah!! Seriously ???? You don't even know us. Do you realize how you sound here??
Sounds like a racist to me.
Someone who makes sweeping generalizations about people based on their race.
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| Posted 4/28/15 11:21 AM |
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blu6385
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Re: Anyone watching the Baltimore riots?
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by KristenRSF
Here's an idea, don't break the f*cking law and you wont get tossed head first into a police van.
Look at what a law abiding citizen sweet Freddie was. FOH.
March 20, 2015: Possession of a Controlled Dangerous Substance
March 13, 2015: Malicious destruction of property, second-degree assault
January 20, 2015: Fourth-degree burglary, trespassing
January 14, 2015: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance, possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to distribute
December 31, 2014: Possession of narcotics with intent to distribute
December 14, 2014: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance
August 31, 2014: Illegal gambling, trespassing
January 25, 2014: Possession of marijuana
September 28, 2013: Distribution of narcotics, unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance, second-degree assault, second-degree escape
April 13, 2012: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to distribute, unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance, violation of probation
July 16, 2008: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance, possession with intent to distribute
March 28, 2008: Unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance
March 14, 2008: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to manufacture and distribute
February 11, 2008: Unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance, possession of a controlled dangerous substance
August 29, 2007: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to distribute, violation of probation
August 28, 2007: Possession of marijuana
August 23, 2007: False statement to a peace officer, unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance
July 16, 2007: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to distribute, unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance (2 counts)
For once ( ), I actually agree with you.
Law abiding citizens don't have issues with cops. Ever.
while I get the point of this just wondering do you still feel the same way about the cop in SC that shot a running suspect multiple times in the back and than try to plant evidence on him to make it justify?
while I get law abiding citizens never have a problem with cops (which I don't know if this statement can really be 100% accurate) that makes it right for cops to do what they want to anyone who isn't following the law?
cause that's how *I* take it when people make this statement.
I also feel that when people are screaming police brutality it really isn't and I agree with what the cop does. just not all the time
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| Posted 4/28/15 11:30 AM |
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JennyPenny
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Re: Anyone watching the Baltimore riots?
Posted by Babyaholic
Posted by Grill
Property destruction vs murder......how about when a firefighter is seriously injured (or killed) putting out a fire that was set by people trying to destroy property to prove a point , doesn't that have the potential to be called murder?
Yikes....No. No way. That fire does not contain any different properties than any other fire that firefighter works to put out. The heat, the structural integrity, the danger....they are all the same as any other fire this person chooses to fight.
Is it responsible and effective to start fires to "prove" a point? No. Not at all. But fortunately, this thread has shifted to the point that some readers are now expressing their empathy for the underlying feelings of those rioting. Of course it's a horrible tactic....but murder no. No hands were put on a firefighter, no oxygen deprived, no bones broken, no bullets shredded through skin. In the event a fire fighter dies....manslaughter POSSIBLY, but murder. No way. Those cops ALL murdered innocent until proven guilty men. And that's not ok. And when the law/government/police force (all synonymous here) doesn't work in your favor, EVER...humans have always reverted to violence to prove a point. Look at how many wars we wage...we have a long history of using violence to force an agenda. It's status quo in this country, and for all of mankind really. Is it wrong...yes! Is it all too human....yes! Is starting a fire to a building murder to a future firefighter....NO! Cops need to stop the sh*t or else the people will take back the power and the reasons for the 2nd amendment will become ever clearer!
Using your logic, all the firemen that were MURDERED on 9/11 weren't really murdered. They were just doing their job, sucks they got killed doing it but hey they signed up for the job.
Your comments reek of anti cop sentiments. All those murderous cops are innocent until proven guilty as well.
I do not condone what has taken place, but change needs to happen on both sides. The communities and the cops. It takes two...
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| Posted 4/28/15 11:35 AM |
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JennyPenny
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Anyone watching the Baltimore riots?
I am a WHITE law-abiding citizens and had issues with two WHITE cops when I was 16. They harassed me for absolutely no reason. So I don't agree that law-abiding citizens NEVER have issues with cops.
ALSO- I grew up in a white house, in a white neighborhood, with semi-racist parents and grandparents. I am absolutely not racist by any stretch of the word. I think there are good people and trash people for every race out there. I think to say what was a very racist thing to say.
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| Posted 4/28/15 11:54 AM |
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