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Attorney: Schuler eyes stroke as crash cause
Searching for an alternative theory to explain the deadly wrong-way Taconic State Parkway crash, Diane Schuler's family has begun speaking with experts about a stroke-like condition that cannot be discovered by an autopsy, the family's attorney said Monday.
In other developments, Schuler's son, Bryan, 5, who survived the crash, has been released from Westchester Medical Center, a hospital spokesman said. It was not clear Monday whether Bryan, who suffered head injuries, went home or to another medical facility.
Photos of the tragic Taconic Parkway crash
The Schuler family attorney, Dominic Barbara of Garden City, said he is pursuing whether Diane Schuler suffered a transient ischemic attack, or TIA, a sudden disruption of blood flow to the brain lasting for less than an hour, a stroke expert told Newsday Monday. Among its symptoms are blurred vision and disorientation, the same problems New York State Police said Schuler described to her brother in a phone call 30 minutes before the July 26 crash.
"The doctors are coming in, and we're talking to them," said Barbara, in a brief interview at his office. He did not name the physicians.
Authorities say Schuler, 36, of West Babylon, was drunk and high on marijuana when she drove a minivan full of children nearly two miles the wrong way on the Taconic before colliding with an SUV in Westchester, killing herself and seven others. She had the equivalent of 10 drinks, authorities said, and 6 grams of undigested alcohol in her stomach.
Also killed in the minivan were Schuler's daughter, Erin, 2, and her three nieces, Emma Hance, 8, Alyson Hance, 7, and Kate Hance, 5. Three Yonkers men died in the sport utility vehicle.
The New York State Police and Westchester District Attorney Janet DiFiore will meet next Tuesday for "a top-to-bottom review and a progress report on the case" as authorities decide whether to open a grand jury investigation, said Lucian Chalfen, a DiFiore spokesman.
Schuler's family has said the doting mother, a manager at Cablevision, which owns Newsday, had no drinking problem and must have suffered some kind of medical catastrophe.
Dr. Ted Lowenkopf, medical director of the Providence Stroke Center in Portland, Ore., said a TIA is not detectable by autopsy because the interruption of blood flow to the brain does not last long enough to cause permanent damage.
"The only way a TIA could be fatal is if the symptoms occurred when you need your faculties intact," he said.
But Lowenkopf said autopsies can show underlying conditions that cause a TIA, including narrowing arteries and a damaged heart. Westchester authorities said the autopsy showed no underlying conditions.
Barbara acknowledged the TIA theory was incomplete. "If it wasn't for the alcohol still in her stomach, this would explain it," he said.
The family of two of the Yonkers victims - Michael Bastardi, 81, and his son, Guy Bastardi, 49 - said they don't believe Diane Schuler had a medical condition and took to the airwaves Monday to blast her husband, Daniel, who has said he never saw his wife drunk. "He's in denial. Somewhere along the line you have to know somebody can drink like that," Roseann Guzzo said in a "Today" show interview with NBC's Matt Lauer.
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headoverheels
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Re: Attorney: Schuler eyes stroke as crash cause
IMO, this is getting ridiculous. blood tests showed that she was drunk, high, and had 6 oz. of undigested alcohol in her stomach.
is the stroke supposed to explain why she drank and smoked marijuana?
i don't get this
i would LOVE to be wrong - i would love for the autopsy to be wrong! - but somehow i don't think that's going to happen.
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Posted 8/11/09 8:50 AM |
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Re: Attorney: Schuler eyes stroke as crash cause
um, can we say reaching???????
she F'ed up. Trying to correct it now is moot.
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Posted 8/11/09 8:54 AM |
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Re: Attorney: Schuler eyes stroke as crash cause
Posted by headoverheels
Among its symptoms are blurred vision and disorientation,
Know what else causes this.
A .19 blood alcohol level and smoking pot...which the autopsy DID show
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Posted 8/11/09 8:56 AM |
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sunnygirl
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Re: Attorney: Schuler eyes stroke as crash cause
they are grasping at straws at this point, i understand it is hard for him to comprehend that his wife did this (or he's a great actor) but you have to believe the facts and the facts of the autopsy show she was drunk and high, i'm sorry but he's needs to start dealing with this
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Posted 8/11/09 9:07 AM |
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Re: Attorney: Schuler eyes stroke as crash cause
Barbara acknowledged the TIA theory was incomplete. "If it wasn't for the alcohol still in her stomach, this would explain it," he said.
Um yeah douche!!!
Seriously is there a medical condition that makes it look like your both drunk and high?
They need to come to terms with the fact that only one thing caused this horrible accident and that was Diane Schuler.
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Posted 8/11/09 9:08 AM |
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Re: Attorney: Schuler eyes stroke as crash cause
This is pathetic. It's also insulting to the family members of the victims.
If I had a stroke in my car, I wouldn't think about or have the first idea about how to procure pot, lt alone a sudden desire for it. This is an insult t o the memories of all the victims--except for her.
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Posted 8/11/09 9:12 AM |
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Re: Attorney: Schuler eyes stroke as crash cause
I was going to say the EXACT same thing.
It's really sad, this family is taking things to such an extreme. So sad for all parties involved.
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Posted 8/11/09 9:14 AM |
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Re: Attorney: Schuler eyes stroke as crash cause
denial really is such a sad thing
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Posted 8/11/09 9:24 AM |
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Re: Attorney: Schuler eyes stroke as crash cause
I really don't feel bad for the husband/father anymore. Accept that she was drunk and stoned like a man, all this reaching is just silly
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Posted 8/11/09 9:30 AM |
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Yep. Those strokes can send ANY drunk driver over the edge
ETA - And why is the most high profile scumbag lawyer on this case????
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i feel bad for all invovlved they are making this so much harder to deal with by dragging this on and on. she was drunk and high, accept it. she f'd up and it caused her to kill 7 people. it is what it is. stop dragging this through the mud and papers.
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Posted 8/11/09 9:40 AM |
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Re: Attorney: Schuler eyes stroke as crash cause
Daniel Schuler - once was busted for DWI. He was driving to another bar when he blew a .113
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/08/10/crimesider/entry5230033.shtml
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Posted 8/11/09 9:44 AM |
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i think the quote at the end of the article says it best "He is in denial" i don't think the blood test, or the extra alcohol still her in stomach are lying... she obviously had some kind of problem, whether her husband knew about it or not...
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Posted 8/11/09 9:55 AM |
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headoverheels
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Daniel Schuler - once was busted for DWI. He was driving to another bar when he blew a .113
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/08/10/crimesider/entry5230033.shtml
this doesn't really mean anything to me - i know of many people who are not alcoholics and have gotten DWIs. it happens to all kinds of stupid people, not just alcoholics.
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HoneyBadger
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Re: Attorney: Schuler eyes stroke as crash cause
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Daniel Schuler - once was busted for DWI. He was driving to another bar when he blew a .113
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/08/10/crimesider/entry5230033.shtml
this doesn't really mean anything to me - i know of many people who are not alcoholics and have gotten DWIs. it happens to all kinds of stupid people, not just alcoholics.
eh, I'd say yes and no. While my first reaction to the link was "so what, that's the husband, not the wife. What bearing does that have on anything."
But then the more I thought about it I suppose you could make the connection that maybe they (as a couple) didn't think much of drinking and driving? That maybe he knew his wife was drinking yet did nothing to stop her from driving? IDK, I'm kinda reaching here...
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Posted 8/11/09 10:10 AM |
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Daniel Schuler - once was busted for DWI. He was driving to another bar when he blew a .113
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/08/10/crimesider/entry5230033.shtml
this doesn't really mean anything to me - i know of many people who are not alcoholics and have gotten DWIs. it happens to all kinds of stupid people, not just alcoholics.
I'm surprised it never came out till now.
To me, still shows what kind of people we are dealing with. Not only was he driving while drunk but was on his way to down some more drinks - nice
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Re: Attorney: Schuler eyes stroke as crash cause
This is so pathetic! They are making fools of themselves.
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Posted 8/11/09 10:31 AM |
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Re: Attorney: Schuler eyes stroke as crash cause
I think the husband should have kept quiet. He declared 100% positive that his wife never drank. People are VERY angry about this story and if anyone ever shared a social drink w/her is now able to come out and prove him wrong. If he was so confident that his wife wasn't drunk or on drugs, why hasn't he requested another autopsy?
Hiring Dominic Barbara makes the story worse, This guy is a complete idiot and he's going to make this situation worse. Doesn't anyone feel for the poor people that lost their children and father/grandfather, brother? This woman was driving drunk and killed innocent people!
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Posted 8/11/09 10:43 AM |
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Re: Attorney: Schuler eyes stroke as crash cause
Posted by Marybeth222
If he was so confident that his wife wasn't drunk or on drugs, why hasn't he requested another autopsy?
He did.
He requested, last week I believe, to have her body exhumed so they could have a private ME come in and perform their own autopsy.
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Re: Attorney: Schuler eyes stroke as crash cause
I didn't realize that. Thanks for clarification.
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Posted 8/11/09 10:56 AM |
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Daniel Schuler - once was busted for DWI. He was driving to another bar when he blew a .113
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/08/10/crimesider/entry5230033.shtml
this doesn't really mean anything to me - i know of many people who are not alcoholics and have gotten DWIs. it happens to all kinds of stupid people, not just alcoholics.
I'm surprised it never came out till now.
To me, still shows what kind of people we are dealing with. Not only was he driving while drunk but was on his way to down some more drinks - nice
This was almost 15 years ago. I don't think ONE instance 15 years ago shows us what kind of people "we are dealing with". That's just my honest opinion.
I'm not excusing what he did, but 3 weeks ago, he wasn't the one who got into the car and got loaded while driving 5 children.
I feel bad for his family because on top of mourning the loss of children and a wife and mother they also have to reconsider the kind of person they all thought she was and listen to the media rip her a knew one (not that she doesn't deserve it).
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Re: Attorney: Schuler eyes stroke as crash cause
This is beyond pathetic. Does this fake disease also cause your toxicology reports to read high numbers of alcohol and marijuana in your blood?
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Posted 8/11/09 10:57 AM |
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Barbara acknowledged the TIA theory was incomplete. "If it wasn't for the alcohol still in her stomach, this would explain it," he said.
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I get the husband being in denial. Not a person on earth would ever think that a loved one would do something so stupid as to drink as much as she did, smoke ajoint and drive 5 kids on a major roadway 3+ hours home. But doesn't this last line clinch the entire thing.
So what if she had a stroke/heart attack. She still was double the legal limit and had smoked pot. I dont care if all those things caused her to stroke. She still drank ALOT and smoked and drove...
They need to stop the excuses and accept the tox report. I feel terrible for the people who knew her and said this is not something she would do, but I feel worse for the families of those she killed by doing it....
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Posted 8/11/09 11:05 AM |
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Re: Attorney: Schuler eyes stroke as crash cause
come on now.....how does this explain the marijuana and alcohol in her system?
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