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Cpt2007
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Re: Attorney: Schuler eyes stroke as crash cause
they are grasping at straws. I can understand the instinct to protect those you love and having that instinct push you to say things you shouldn't, but this is borderline disrespectful to the deceased in this case. She had MORE alcohol in her stomach. How much more conclusive can you get?
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Re: Attorney: Schuler eyes stroke as crash cause
As far as the marajuana, she either had it on her or she knew where to get it. He had to have known she smoked pot.
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| Posted 8/11/09 11:08 AM |
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DaniJude
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Re: Attorney: Schuler eyes stroke as crash cause
Denial is not a river in Egypt!
Yep, she had a stroke, OJ didn't do it, and the guy who hit my brother had a faulty tire! ...ooh, AND he fell asleep which makes it totally NOT his fault at all. I mean, between the unbelievable phenomenon of the LEFT faulty tire pulling the car toward my brother's cruiser which was on the RIGHT (amazing!) and the sleep disorder - wow, that poor guy just had a whole mess of bad luck that morning... NONE of which was his fault. And the fact that he was totally blitzed had absolutely NOTHING to do with it!
Science doesn't lie and I think I'm going to go ahead and believe the Toxicology tests - as CRAZY as that may sound! 
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| Posted 8/11/09 11:18 AM |
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Erica
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Re: Attorney: Schuler eyes stroke as crash cause
I am by no means agreeing or codoning Dominic Barbara's tactics:
but this is why he wins cases/gets paid the big bucks...he causes confusion - making it hard for the plantiff to show their burden of proof. When a jury sees that yes, it could have been the alcohol and the marijuana...he will tell them, but it could also be XYZ and we don't know for sure, so you cannot award a judgment. Putting it out in public is just to taint the jury pool IMO.
Was it the brother's car? if so, it just strengthens the argument not to lend ANYONE your car - even your sister!
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| Posted 8/11/09 11:27 AM |
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JessInCA
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Re: Attorney: Schuler eyes stroke as crash cause
This is ridiculous. Sure she could've theoretically had a rare, undetectable stroke that she didn't have any of the health indicators for, but the stroke didn't magically cause the alcohol and marijuana to be found in her system.
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| Posted 8/11/09 11:31 AM |
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Superkat
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Re: Attorney: Schuler eyes stroke as crash cause
"Stroke"? He must have meant that it was a stroke of luck that she didn't kill more people.
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| Posted 8/11/09 11:49 AM |
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ave1024
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Re: Attorney: Schuler eyes stroke as crash cause
Well the husband is obviously reaching because he knows he is going to get his azz handed to him in court when the civil case gets served. He will lose everything.
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Posted by FranB
I get the husband being in denial. Not a person on earth would ever think that a loved one would do something so stupid as to drink as much as she did, smoke ajoint and drive 5 kids on a major roadway 3+ hours home. But doesn't this last line clinch the entire thing.
I get it too- I read somewhere that he worked nights and she worked days- so it is possible that he really had no idea that she was drinking and had a problem. The amount she had shows a serious tolerance, so it had to be a habit, for a long time.
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| Posted 8/11/09 12:27 PM |
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Porrruss
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Re: Attorney: Schuler eyes stroke as crash cause
I was thinking stroke or TIA initially, until the toxicology report showed the THC and alcohol in her system.
TIAs don't come on and resolve themselves that quickly- the lesion appears on the brain for at least 12-24 hours if I remember correctly.
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| Posted 8/11/09 12:28 PM |
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nicrae
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Re: Attorney: Schuler eyes stroke as crash cause
Posted by ave1024
Well the husband is obviously reaching because he knows he is going to get his azz handed to him in court when the civil case gets served. He will lose everything.
and who does that help? Everyone is dead. It doesn't bring back those poor children or those men. Having his "azz" handed to him is not going to change anything.
So they are going to sue him and get lots of money while he has to live with knowing that HIS WIFE killed everyone including his child. On top of that he also has to figure out how to get his life back for not only him but his poor son.
It is one thing if he knew his wife was drivng drunk and high but so far all accounts show she was fine when she left that campsite.
I think the only person to blame is Diane Schuler. Leave the poor man alone.
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ave1024
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Re: Attorney: Schuler eyes stroke as crash cause
Posted by nicrae
Posted by ave1024
Well the husband is obviously reaching because he knows he is going to get his azz handed to him in court when the civil case gets served. He will lose everything.
and who does that help? Everyone is dead. It doesn't bring back those poor children or those men. Having his "azz" handed to him is not going to change anything.
So they are going to sue him and get lots of money while he has to live with knowing that HIS WIFE killed everyone including his child. On top of that he also has to figure out how to get his life back for not only him but his poor son.
It is one thing if he knew his wife was drivng drunk and high but so far all accounts show she was fine when she left that campsite.
I think the only person to blame is Diane Schuler. Leave the poor man alone.
Hey I am not saying I agree with the civil case.
Just saying he is reaching because he is trying to avoid being sued.
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| Posted 8/11/09 12:45 PM |
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FranB
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Re: Attorney: Schuler eyes stroke as crash cause
Posted by ave1024
Well the husband is obviously reaching because he knows he is going to get his azz handed to him in court when the civil case gets served. He will lose everything.
He already lost everything. His wife and 2 year old daughter. Who knows the condition of his son. Obviously I dont know him but what else does he have to give? His house and whatever money in the bank? I dont think he would care at this point.. His world is shattered too
I am by no means standing up for him at all. I just think he has nothing left to lose
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DaniJude
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Re: Attorney: Schuler eyes stroke as crash cause
I really don't feel that there's enough proof to show that he either did or did not know at this point. I mean, there are indications that point in either direction but not beyond a shadow of a doubt - not enough yet, IMO.
So, I think I'm not going to say one way or another on this guy until more evidence and information comes out. Who knows what happened.
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| Posted 8/11/09 1:17 PM |
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OrganicMama
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Re: Attorney: Schuler eyes stroke as crash cause
Posted by ave1024
Well the husband is obviously reaching because he knows he is going to get his azz handed to him in court when the civil case gets served. He will lose everything.
What I don't understand is why is it the husband's fault? She left at 9:30am and crashed at 1:30pm. The owner of the campsite said she was "as sober as a judge" when she left. I seriously doubt if she were hammered then that her husband & her brother would let her drive with those kids in the car, so why does this fall on him? I understand financially b/c they were married, but are criminal charges being filed for him?
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cjik
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Re: Attorney: Schuler eyes stroke as crash cause
It would make this terrible accident slightly easier to accept I suppose. But it doesn't explain how all that booze and marijuana got in her system, and gee, that seems more likely to cause driving problems.
I can understand her family not wanting to accept this, but they need to and move on rather than looking all over for some other explanation.
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cjik
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Re: Attorney: Schuler eyes stroke as crash cause
Posted by CrisiDrue
Posted by ave1024
Well the husband is obviously reaching because he knows he is going to get his azz handed to him in court when the civil case gets served. He will lose everything.
What I don't understand is why is it the husband's fault? She left at 9:30am and crashed at 1:30pm. The owner of the campsite said she was "as sober as a judge" when she left. I seriously doubt if she were hammered then that her husband & her brother would let her drive with those kids in the car, so why does this fall on him? I understand financially b/c they were married, but are criminal charges being filed for him?
He is responsible for the death of his child if he knew she was drunk or knew she intended to get drunk, so that is what is under investigation. It would be hard to prove that he knew I would think, and there is a very good chance he did not know. But if he did know, he is guilty of negligence since he put his child in a dangerous situation willingly. I can see why the county needs to do this, both for the children who died, and also for the child who is still alive to ascertain that he is an appropriate caregiver. It's too bad, but I can understand it.
He also may be sued by the family of the people she killed, but that is a civil suit and a different matter. This is probably why the family is saying they think she had a stroke now, I'm sure they don't want to lose what they still have. I feel bad for him, but then I can also understand why the other family would sue--they lost their loved ones also and for no good reason.
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Mommy2Boys
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Re: Attorney: Schuler eyes stroke as crash cause
Maybe it could be...but still doesnt explain all the alcohol and drugs in her system 
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happytobreathe
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Re: Attorney: Schuler eyes stroke as crash cause
Ridiculous. Reaching for anything....
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HoneyBadger
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Re: Attorney: Schuler eyes stroke as crash cause
Posted by nicrae
Posted by ave1024
Well the husband is obviously reaching because he knows he is going to get his azz handed to him in court when the civil case gets served. He will lose everything.
and who does that help? Everyone is dead. It doesn't bring back those poor children or those men. Having his "azz" handed to him is not going to change anything.
So they are going to sue him and get lots of money while he has to live with knowing that HIS WIFE killed everyone including his child. On top of that he also has to figure out how to get his life back for not only him but his poor son.
It is one thing if he knew his wife was drivng drunk and high but so far all accounts show she was fine when she left that campsite.
I think the only person to blame is Diane Schuler. Leave the poor man alone.
Yes, he does have to live with knowing his wife killed 7 other people but that's clearly not bringing the Bastardi and Longo families any kind of peace of mind.
I think, if you've never lost a family member in a tragic manor such as this, that it's a LOT easier to say "let the man be" but those families are out for blood and honestly, I don't really blame them.
This woman was drunk and high and she killed their family members (along with her own). That's a loss I pray no one here EVER has to live through.
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nicrae
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Re: Attorney: Schuler eyes stroke as crash cause
Posted by Jennie0898
Posted by nicrae
Posted by ave1024
Well the husband is obviously reaching because he knows he is going to get his azz handed to him in court when the civil case gets served. He will lose everything.
and who does that help? Everyone is dead. It doesn't bring back those poor children or those men. Having his "azz" handed to him is not going to change anything.
So they are going to sue him and get lots of money while he has to live with knowing that HIS WIFE killed everyone including his child. On top of that he also has to figure out how to get his life back for not only him but his poor son.
It is one thing if he knew his wife was drivng drunk and high but so far all accounts show she was fine when she left that campsite.
I think the only person to blame is Diane Schuler. Leave the poor man alone.
Yes, he does have to live with knowing his wife killed 7 other people but that's clearly not bringing the Bastardi and Longo families any kind of peace of mind.
I think, if you've never lost a family member in a tragic manor such as this, that it's a LOT easier to say "let the man be" but those families are out for blood and honestly, I don't really blame them.
This woman was drunk and high and she killed their family members (along with her own). That's a loss I pray no one here EVER has to live through.
Actually I lost my brother to a drunk driver so I know exactly how they feel.
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Tumbalina
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Re: Attorney: Schuler eyes stroke as crash cause
Posted by headoverheels
IMO, this is getting ridiculous. blood tests showed that she was drunk, high, and had 6 oz. of undigested alcohol in her stomach.
is the stroke supposed to explain why she drank and smoked marijuana?
i don't get this
i would LOVE to be wrong - i would love for the autopsy to be wrong! - but somehow i don't think that's going to happen. 
I agree!
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Tumbalina
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Re: Attorney: Schuler eyes stroke as crash cause
Posted by Superkat
"Stroke"? He must have meant that it was a stroke of luck that she didn't kill more people.
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| Posted 8/11/09 6:42 PM |
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sfp0701
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Re: Attorney: Schuler eyes stroke as crash cause
I know someone who goes to AA and the talk around the meetings is that she was seen frequently drunk at bars complaining about her husband. I don't know if I believe it... but, looking at the case it sounds about right.
The family is trying anything to prove that they didn't know about her problem so they can't be sued. Sad. 
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Kierasmom
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Re: Attorney: Schuler eyes stroke as crash cause
I just don't understand and would love for someone to explain how even if she had a stroke that negates the fact that she was drunk and high.
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| Posted 8/11/09 10:18 PM |
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Re: Attorney: Schuler eyes stroke as crash cause
Posted by Kierasmom
I just don't understand and would love for someone to explain how even if she had a stroke that negates the fact that she was drunk and high.
totally agree! It's an absolute insult to the people she killed for his attorney to be playing these games. Honestly, if I was the victim's family, I would be out for blood, in payment for the mockery the husband and his attorney are making out of this!
From day one the husband should have just said "we didn't realize she had a drinking problem" and then shut his freakin' mouth. I am absolutely disgusted by the circus this has turned into!
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