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WannaBeAMom11
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
I 100% applaud her and wish more stores that don't sell staple items would follow her. I grew up with not a lot of money and my mom would make my cake or pie. I worked in a supermarket a couple of years ago and I'm sorry if you are driving a Lexus you should not be entitled to food stamps. Plus as everyone else has said farmers markets are really expensive.
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
I don't usually reply to these type of posts but I just couldn't bite my tongue any longer.
To all the people talking about what their taxes pay for as if you personally buy people who are on FS groceries.... What you may or may not realize is that many people on FS are full time working citizens just like yourselves, but may be well below the poverty line. I get the impression that some people here think that every person receiving some type of government assistance just sit at home on their ass all day and don't work/pay taxes. Do some people sit on their ass and abuse the system? Yes, but not all. Don't be so quick to judge.
To answer the original poster, I don't really see a problem with the baker's decision. I do think it's her right to choose, and I also agree that a pie is not a basic need. BUT, I won't be so quick to judge someone on FS buying a pie.
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| Posted 8/16/12 6:37 PM |
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
Posted by greenybeans
I don't think the poor people in this country are the problem, pie or not.
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| Posted 8/16/12 6:38 PM |
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Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
I will also clarify...this woman does sell fruit pies at her store but because they are easy to make and transport one of the main things she sells at this stand is woopie pies. THAT is ridiculous to me.
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
I don't have time or energy or DESIRE to sit in judgement of people who need and use welfare benefits to buy food.
I KNOW that people abuse the system.. and I hate to say that I think it's a lot more than people suspect.. but that is neither here nor there...
I do believe that there should be limits on what can be purchased with benefit cards. I mean.. nobody has a problem with restricting the purchase of tobacco or beer, right?
I don't begrudge ANYONE the right to buy pie or beer or champagne or Coach bags or jimmy choo's or the right to buy steak and lobster at Morton's or fly to Paris.. but they are NOT necessities. Life as you know it will not cease to exist if you have to buy a cake at Waldbaum's instead of buying organic Whoopie Pies at the Farmer's Market.
Benefit cards are meant to help you get by.. to get back on your feet. They are NOT a way of life. You might not be able to get the artisan cake or the dinner at Per Se while you are collecting benefits TODAY.. but it's something to work for, something to ignite the fire in you.
Maybe I sound like an asshole.. but my husband is out of work and I JUST went back to work this week after being unemployed for over a year. We are STRUGGLING to make ends meet. Even WITH my new job it is going to be a struggle for a LONG time just to get out of the hole we dug. And I splurge.. I bought lobster a few weeks ago and I had birthday parties for my kids and I even went out to dinner yesterday and have ordered pizza in the past. But each one of those splurges was accounted for in blood, sweat and tears.. if it meant begging for an advance on an article or if it meant getting up at 3am to babysit or digging through the house for change to roll.. we made it work. And for every splurge I had there were 20 more that I WANTED but couldn't make happen.
I don't know.. I just believe this chick has the right to determine that she doesn't want to accept EBT for the indulgences she creates.
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| Posted 8/16/12 7:14 PM |
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digweed
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
Posted by Goobster
Posted by maymama
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I'm pretty sure with food stamps there is no restrictions on what type of foods you can purchase. So it's really none of her damn business if they want to uy a pie from her or not.
i do not believe this is true at all. there are certain brands that are acceptable with food stamps and others that are not. also certain products that are acceptable, others not.
This is true. I used to work in a supermarket as a teen. Not sure if the rules have changed but even cereals could not be sugary kinds, etc.
Me too. They could only get certain cereals, cheeses, etc. As for food stamps, I "thought" they couldn't get anything prepared (rot chicken, etc) b/c it was taxed b/c it was prepared... so wouldn't a cake made by a baker fall under that?
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
Posted by greenybeans
I don't think the poor people in this country are the problem, pie or not.
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Kidsaplenty
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
Posted by digweed
Posted by Goobster
Posted by maymama
Posted by Kidsaplenty
I'm pretty sure with food stamps there is no restrictions on what type of foods you can purchase. So it's really none of her damn business if they want to uy a pie from her or not.
i do not believe this is true at all. there are certain brands that are acceptable with food stamps and others that are not. also certain products that are acceptable, others not.
This is true. I used to work in a supermarket as a teen. Not sure if the rules have changed but even cereals could not be sugary kinds, etc.
Me too. They could only get certain cereals, cheeses, etc. As for food stamps, I "thought" they couldn't get anything prepared (rot chicken, etc) b/c it was taxed b/c it was prepared... so wouldn't a cake made by a baker fall under that?
Again, WIC has the approved list of foods. Juice, Milk, Cereal with no sugar, some fruit veggies, etc. With food stamps you can get virtually anything in the supermarket, and I did post a link somewhere in the thread detailing what is not available with an EBT card.
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
Posted by greenybeans
I don't think the poor people in this country are the problem, pie or not.
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
idk...i look at it like this
should she buy a expensive pie with foos tamps..no,imo she should not
but i do not know her..what if every year she allows herself one treat and this was it
maybe it was her mom's fav pie and she wanted to buy it for her..maybe it was a birthday...maybe she just really wanted it
my point is i do not know the story and neither did the lady and i do not feel it is my job or her job or anyone's job to approve or deny her that pie if it is legal
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
Posted by EnV-McC
I don't usually reply to these type of posts but I just couldn't bite my tongue any longer.
To all the people talking about what their taxes pay for as if you personally buy people who are on FS groceries.... What you may or may not realize is that many people on FS are full time working citizens just like yourselves, but may be well below the poverty line. I get the impression that some people here think that every person receiving some type of government assistance just sit at home on their ass all day and don't work/pay taxes. Do some people sit on their ass and abuse the system? Yes, but not all. Don't be so quick to judge.
To answer the original poster, I don't really see a problem with the baker's decision. I do think it's her right to choose, and I also agree that a pie is not a basic need. BUT, I won't be so quick to judge someone on FS buying a pie.
It's amazing how uninformed people are.
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| Posted 8/16/12 11:09 PM |
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Posted by Kerie-is-so-very
I'm not sure but I believe that the food stamp program has speciific rules about what kinds of foods are part of the program. I have always wondered about this issue when I've seen the farmers at Union Square taking food stamps. The vendors that sell cakes take them just as the ones that sell fruits and vegetables do. Sure it is fine to have a pie once in a while. It is also fine to have a drink once in a while but the food stamps were not meant for alcohol either.
See.... I love that union square farmers marke accepts food stamps. I feel the buying fresh and healthy produce is so pricey, so the poorer people are forced to buy unhealthy crap. Why not give them the opportunity to buy fresh produce?
I am on the fence about this whole baker thing...l
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Posted by cncforever
Side note, I never had a pie from briemerre. Are they really to die for?
I have family members who would die for them.... As for me, I would die for their cinnamon raisin rolls, and thats it!
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
Posted by computergirl
I get her point. We're talking about pie. Just because something is sold at a farmer's market doesn't make it some sort of nutritional staple. Pie is not a civil right. If you can't afford to pay for it yourself, maybe you shouldn't be shopping for pie. There was a time in my life when I couldn't afford to indulge in Starbucks whenever I wanted to. So I didn't. I didn't ask the taxpayers to buy it for me.
And if it was for a kid's birthday cake, I am sure the person in question would have no trouble buying a cake or pie at the supermarket with their EBT card.
I agree with this 1000x over. And even if your EBT doesn't cover acake from a supermarket, what ever happened to buying a box of Betty Crocker/Duncan Hines and making one?
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PhyllisNJoe
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
I think any food that is on the "List of approved products" should be able to be purchased with FS.
I have a different opinion on the welfare system then most...
We grew up poor, quite poor at times, but never poor enough for help. Personally, a sick father, mother working 16 hour shifts and they have 4 children, 2 of which had to drop out of high school to work a factory to keep the rent paid - I Think that qualifies. BUT it didn't. They offered, no joke, something like $20 a week.
We lived on Macaroni. LIVED ON IT. Sometimes it was pancakes - not the box kind, made from scratch (it was cheaper that way) It sucked a lot. Probably why I keep my house STOCKED with stuff and spend way too much time & money at the supermarkets now bc I Can.
BUT When I'd go to the store with my mom, struggling to pay the cashier with all the cash she had - there would be immigrants and I swear I kid you not IN FUR COATS, BUYING STEAKS, USING THEIR FOOD STAMPS. Then as I got older, it was the Benefit Card being used.
I swear she wrote letters on a weekly basis to everyone and anyone. It did nothing, but I guess it helped with her frustration.
The government has a lot more issues with their welfare system then someone wanting to buy PIE.
Hmm Seems that turned into a vent 
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NervousNell
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
Posted by rojerono
I don't have time or energy or DESIRE to sit in judgement of people who need and use welfare benefits to buy food.
I KNOW that people abuse the system.. and I hate to say that I think it's a lot more than people suspect.. but that is neither here nor there...
I do believe that there should be limits on what can be purchased with benefit cards. I mean.. nobody has a problem with restricting the purchase of tobacco or beer, right?
I don't begrudge ANYONE the right to buy pie or beer or champagne or Coach bags or jimmy choo's or the right to buy steak and lobster at Morton's or fly to Paris.. but they are NOT necessities. Life as you know it will not cease to exist if you have to buy a cake at Waldbaum's instead of buying organic Whoopie Pies at the Farmer's Market.
Benefit cards are meant to help you get by.. to get back on your feet. They are NOT a way of life. You might not be able to get the artisan cake or the dinner at Per Se while you are collecting benefits TODAY.. but it's something to work for, something to ignite the fire in you.
Maybe I sound like an asshole.. but my husband is out of work and I JUST went back to work this week after being unemployed for over a year. We are STRUGGLING to make ends meet. Even WITH my new job it is going to be a struggle for a LONG time just to get out of the hole we dug. And I splurge.. I bought lobster a few weeks ago and I had birthday parties for my kids and I even went out to dinner yesterday and have ordered pizza in the past. But each one of those splurges was accounted for in blood, sweat and tears.. if it meant begging for an advance on an article or if it meant getting up at 3am to babysit or digging through the house for change to roll.. we made it work. And for every splurge I had there were 20 more that I WANTED but couldn't make happen.
I don't know.. I just believe this chick has the right to determine that she doesn't want to accept EBT for the indulgences she creates.
Just want to say I love this response.
I think if more people had the same attitude that you do, this country would be in a lot better shape!
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| Posted 8/17/12 9:15 AM |
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by rojerono
I don't have time or energy or DESIRE to sit in judgement of people who need and use welfare benefits to buy food.
I KNOW that people abuse the system.. and I hate to say that I think it's a lot more than people suspect.. but that is neither here nor there...
I do believe that there should be limits on what can be purchased with benefit cards. I mean.. nobody has a problem with restricting the purchase of tobacco or beer, right?
I don't begrudge ANYONE the right to buy pie or beer or champagne or Coach bags or jimmy choo's or the right to buy steak and lobster at Morton's or fly to Paris.. but they are NOT necessities. Life as you know it will not cease to exist if you have to buy a cake at Waldbaum's instead of buying organic Whoopie Pies at the Farmer's Market.
Benefit cards are meant to help you get by.. to get back on your feet. They are NOT a way of life. You might not be able to get the artisan cake or the dinner at Per Se while you are collecting benefits TODAY.. but it's something to work for, something to ignite the fire in you.
Maybe I sound like an asshole.. but my husband is out of work and I JUST went back to work this week after being unemployed for over a year. We are STRUGGLING to make ends meet. Even WITH my new job it is going to be a struggle for a LONG time just to get out of the hole we dug. And I splurge.. I bought lobster a few weeks ago and I had birthday parties for my kids and I even went out to dinner yesterday and have ordered pizza in the past. But each one of those splurges was accounted for in blood, sweat and tears.. if it meant begging for an advance on an article or if it meant getting up at 3am to babysit or digging through the house for change to roll.. we made it work. And for every splurge I had there were 20 more that I WANTED but couldn't make happen.
I don't know.. I just believe this chick has the right to determine that she doesn't want to accept EBT for the indulgences she creates.
Just want to say I love this response.
I think if more people had the same attitude that you do, this country would be in a lot better shape!
exactly, word for word! why is this country in the financial crisis that it is? (and for the love of god - it is NOT as simple as our presidents past and present cannot balance a budget). People spend WAY beyong their means. Whether it be with an EBT card or a monthly pay check. We have become a society revolving around luxuries. We need to tone it down, scale it back, get back to the basics. Pay with cash (that you have earned yourself, not taxpayer dollars) and do not force yourself into credit debt.
Bigger houses, bigger cars, extravagant vacations (and pies) and bags and shoes. WE DO NOT NEED IT! By all means, if you can AFFORD it, buy it! If you cannot, own it. Don't spend what you do not have to spend.
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
Posted by computergirl
I get her point. We're talking about pie. Just because something is sold at a farmer's market doesn't make it some sort of nutritional staple. Pie is not a civil right. If you can't afford to pay for it yourself, maybe you shouldn't be shopping for pie. There was a time in my life when I couldn't afford to indulge in Starbucks whenever I wanted to. So I didn't. I didn't ask the taxpayers to buy it for me.
And if it was for a kid's birthday cake, I am sure the person in question would have no trouble buying a cake or pie at the supermarket with their EBT card.
I agree. A specialty car is not what EBT cards are meant for.
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by rojerono
I don't have time or energy or DESIRE to sit in judgement of people who need and use welfare benefits to buy food.
I KNOW that people abuse the system.. and I hate to say that I think it's a lot more than people suspect.. but that is neither here nor there...
I do believe that there should be limits on what can be purchased with benefit cards. I mean.. nobody has a problem with restricting the purchase of tobacco or beer, right?
I don't begrudge ANYONE the right to buy pie or beer or champagne or Coach bags or jimmy choo's or the right to buy steak and lobster at Morton's or fly to Paris.. but they are NOT necessities. Life as you know it will not cease to exist if you have to buy a cake at Waldbaum's instead of buying organic Whoopie Pies at the Farmer's Market.
Benefit cards are meant to help you get by.. to get back on your feet. They are NOT a way of life. You might not be able to get the artisan cake or the dinner at Per Se while you are collecting benefits TODAY.. but it's something to work for, something to ignite the fire in you.
Maybe I sound like an asshole.. but my husband is out of work and I JUST went back to work this week after being unemployed for over a year. We are STRUGGLING to make ends meet. Even WITH my new job it is going to be a struggle for a LONG time just to get out of the hole we dug. And I splurge.. I bought lobster a few weeks ago and I had birthday parties for my kids and I even went out to dinner yesterday and have ordered pizza in the past. But each one of those splurges was accounted for in blood, sweat and tears.. if it meant begging for an advance on an article or if it meant getting up at 3am to babysit or digging through the house for change to roll.. we made it work. And for every splurge I had there were 20 more that I WANTED but couldn't make happen.
I don't know.. I just believe this chick has the right to determine that she doesn't want to accept EBT for the indulgences she creates.
Just want to say I love this response.
I think if more people had the same attitude that you do, this country would be in a lot better shape!
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
I agree and support what this woman is standing for.
Yes, there are people who are in unfortunate situations where WIC and Public Assistance aqre necessary. However, I also think that at least 1/2 of the people receiving services don't "NEED" them. I see this first hand and have for the past 6 years. If you walk into a PA office you'd be suprised to see people with coach or louis bags, iphones, and nice jewelry on applying for services. Is the system screwed up. YES Is using the system a job for some people. YES. I've added up what benefits some people get and include FS, PA, and section 8 and unfortunately... lol they "made" more $ in 1 year then I did.
And yes, FS and WIC can't be used for every item in a super market. But, typically if someone has FS they also have cash available through PA which they can take out and use for anything they wish. It's basically an ATM card which gets replenished each month.
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
All the other debate aside - the baker said she refuses to take food stamps because she doesn't think they should be used to by pie because it is a dessert. She doesn't say it is because her pies are expensive.
So if they used their EBT card to go to target and buy a package of oreos, then they are still using it to buy something that is not a necessity - that is a dessert/snack.
So, really, I don't know if I agree with her argument (and those who agree with her) on this basis alone.
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
Posted by EnV-McC
I don't usually reply to these type of posts but I just couldn't bite my tongue any longer.
To all the people talking about what their taxes pay for as if you personally buy people who are on FS groceries.... What you may or may not realize is that many people on FS are full time working citizens just like yourselves, but may be well below the poverty line. I get the impression that some people here think that every person receiving some type of government assistance just sit at home on their ass all day and don't work/pay taxes. Do some people sit on their ass and abuse the system? Yes, but not all. Don't be so quick to judge.
To answer the original poster, I don't really see a problem with the baker's decision. I do think it's her right to choose, and I also agree that a pie is not a basic need. BUT, I won't be so quick to judge someone on FS buying a pie.
Where do you think the money that supports these programs comes from though?
And since I see blatant abuse at times through my work, you can be damn sure I will sit back in judge.
If that makes me a bad social worker/tax payer, so be it!
There are plenty of people I see that cannot get access to services who also are hardworking as well, because of the abuse of the system.
Just sayin'.
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
As far as bying ingrdients to make it at home, that's not always true. Sometimes when i see the price of certian things (especially cakes and pies) at the grocery store, I can't believe the price. it's like $3 for a pie, and i couldn't even buy the ingredients for that price.
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exactly, word for word! why is this country in the financial crisis that it is? (and for the love of god - it is NOT as simple as our presidents past and present cannot balance a budget). People spend WAY beyong their means. Whether it be with an EBT card or a monthly pay check. We have become a society revolving around luxuries. We need to tone it down, scale it back, get back to the basics. Pay with cash (that you have earned yourself, not taxpayer dollars) and do not force yourself into credit debt.
Bigger houses, bigger cars, extravagant vacations (and pies) and bags and shoes. WE DO NOT NEED IT! By all means, if you can AFFORD it, buy it! If you cannot, own it. Don't spend what you do not have to spend.
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I agree. I also think this is why it is so difficult to live here on LI.
It has become so unaffordable/Keeping up with the Joneses.
People also feel like they are doing something wrong if they can't afford what were once considered the basics, but the reality is, the "basics" are out of reach even for most of the middle class!
DH and I own a small home in an okay school district (but one that I know many on this board would still look down on!), and I have a newer car and many months, it's really tough to make ends meet.
If one of us lost our job though, we would have to seriously consider selling and moving off Long Island completely.
Right after we bought DH had a really rough year with his business, and our joint savings still has not recovered from it.
I think though because people are used to having the best, this is why it trickles down into their thinking when they no longer can afford it.
ESPECIALLY if they have a long work history, and have paid into "the system".
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