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when I found out today that she is a single mom living with her parents and 6 existing children, I was pretty PO'd.

flame if you want to, but this IMO is a classic example of someone milking the system for all it's worth. she's going to get a lot of financial aid from the Gov't now.

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Is it at all possible that this woman was taking fertility drugs to be an egg donor, then had sex? I can't imagine someone in her position CHOOSING this. I know the grandmother said it was intentional, but maybe she's confused, been lied to, or she is lying?

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She's from CA, went to Mexico to get the treatment, and came back home to CA for the pregnancy.

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Honestly...I dont think any of it...is any of our business.

I dont like how quick people are to judge...

Especially without all the facts...

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well thank god its not me. i wouldnt like the media all in my stuff

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I got this info off the L.A Times
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Sex Weight Delivery time Boy 2.7 lbs 10:43 a.m. Girl 2.8 lbs 10:44 a.m. Boy 3.3 lbs 10:45 a.m. Girl 2.5 lbs 10:45 a.m. Boy 1.5 lbs 10:46 a.m. Boy 2.8 lbs 10:47 a.m. Boy 1.9 lbs 10:47 a.m. Boy 2.7 lbs 10:48 a.m. It took only five minutes -- from 10:43 a.m. to 10:48 a.m

The mother, who delivered the babies by caesarean section, is planning on breast-feeding all eight infants, Gupta said. "She's a very strong woman. She should be able to take care of all eight of them,"
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My ? Is she able to breast feed all 8 of them??

Lina

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i dont get why the media is all in her personal information like money wise. i would be mad. no wonder why she doesnt want to come out. i wouldnt judge her i dont know the whole story and the media tends to make the story more drastic then it really is and wouldnt judge the story until i know all the facts not just bits and pieces.

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I totally agree with everyone's thoughts. First of all, this woman is 33, there is no way that an IVF dr would transfer more than two embryos into this woman. She has 6 other children. I read in the article, she wanted one more girl.. This woman should have psychological counseling. I will tell you, working at an IVF clinic, we do not accept everyone that comes through the door. Doesn't she realize, without PGD, her chances for a girl were only 50/50? What if she had a boy, she'd try again? A 33 year old even if she was doing IUI, should have been cancelled if she had 8 follicles, the risk for multiples is too high and most pregnancies with high order multiples, the babies either die or are born with severe issues. There is a reason this makes the news, it so very rarely happens. I can totally see why this Doctor doesn't come forward, he is going to be completely charred by his own community. It certainly sounds like he is guilty of malpractice, he definately should be investigated. I am totally against this mother getting the help like the other families that ended up with so many multiples, free groceries, car, house,etc. I agree with other posters, I think she may have set out to get a TV show or something. Let her now go raise these 14 kids... All I have to say is poor kids. Ok, vent over..

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New Information

BELLFLOWER -- The mother of octuplets is "obsessed with children" and wanted "just one more girl", according to her mother.
33 year old Nadya Suleman's goal in life was to be a mother, her friends and family said. That is why, even with six young children, including 2-year-old twins, she decided to have more embryos transferred in hopes, her mother said Friday, of getting "just one more girl."

"And look what happened. Octuplets. Dear God," Angela Suleman said four days after her daughter became the second person in the U.S. ever to give birth to eight babies at once.

How Did This Happen?
Suleman stressed that her daughter "is not evil, but she is obsessed with children. She loves children, she is very good with children, but obviously she overdid herself."

Angela Suleman said all the children are from the same sperm donor, but she did not identify him. Her daughter is divorced, but Suleman said the ex-husband was not the father.

Suleman said she is caring for her six grandchildren while their mother is in the hospital recovering. She said she had few details about how the octuplets were conceived and did not know the identity of the doctor or the clinic that transferred the frozen embryos into her daughter's uterus. Suleman said it was not Kaiser Permanente, where the babies were born.

Fertility experts have raised concerns about the number of embryos implanted and whether the procedure was within medical guidelines.

"I cannot see circumstances where any reasonable physician would transfer [so many] embryos into a woman under the age of 35 under any circumstance," said Arthur Wisot, a fertility doctor in Redondo Beach and the author of "Conceptions and Misconceptions."

Doctors probably could not deny treatment to a woman simply because she already has children, he said. However, he added, they should have taken steps to make sure she did not have so many babies at once.

Allison Frickert, a friend of Nadya Suleman, said the mother was not seeking potential fame or financial benefit. "There was no overriding situation, other than having more children to love," she said.

"Her whole life, she couldn't wait to be a mom," Frickert said. "That was her No. 1 goal."

Friends and family also reported that Nadya Suleman worked as a psychiatric technician until she was injured on the job. Then she began having children and enrolled in school.

She graduated from Cal State Fullerton in 2006 with a bachelor of science degree in child and adolescent development, school officials said. She returned to pursue a master's in counseling, but last attended in the spring of 2008.
By juggling school and six children, Frickert said, Nadya Suleman proved to be "a lot more capable than the average person in handling stress."

She and her children live with her mother in a 1,550-square-foot home in Whittier, and her father has been working in Iraq as a translator to help support the family.

Court records show the woman's mother Angela Suleman filed for bankruptcy last March, but after she failed to make required payments and appear at a creditors' meeting, the case was dismissed.
She also reported liabilities of $981,371, mostly money owed on two houses she owns
in Whittier.
Suleman said Friday that she had withdrawn the filing and paid her debts.

As the media camped outside the house, Angela Suleman said in a telephone interview that she could not explain her daughter's decision.

Nadya Suleman has always loved children, her mother said. Then she sighed. "I wish she would have become a kindergarten teacher."
"It's going to be difficult," she said, adding that her daughter's father is going back to his native Iraq, where neighbors said he works as a contractor, to help support the family.
He told reporters that he is a former Iraqi military man.
Kaiser Permanente Bellflower Medical Center physician Harold Henry has confirmed that the mother came there after she was pregnant and was counseled, but chose not to selectively abort some of the fetuses.
"What do you suggest she should have done? She refused to have them killed," Suleman said. "That is a very painful thing."
In a statement read by Dr. Karen Maples on Thursday evening, the mother said she understands people are curious and in the future will share details about what she termed a "miraculous experience."
"The babies continue to grow strong every day and make good progress. My family and I are ecstatic about all of their arrivals.
Needless to say, the eighth was a surprise to us all, but a blessing as well," the statement went on to say.
As for the octuplets, doctors say the six boys and two girls continue to do "amazingly well."
Seven of the babies are breathing on their own, and have begun receiving tube-feedings of donated breast milk.
The octuplets were delivered Monday by caesarian section 9 1/2 weeks early.
The babies ranged in weight from 1 pound, 8 ounces to 3 pounds, 4 ounces. They are the second set of surviving octuplets born in the United States.
They are expected to remain hospitalized for several weeks and could face serious developmental delays because of their small size.

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TRANSFER, TRANSFER, TRANSFER!!! HOPE they implant!!!!!

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

Sorry, that drives me bonkers!!!!!

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I am sorry but It's her life and her children . She just brought 8 new lives into this world and I hope ALL babies do well .
We don't really know who this woman is or what her real story is and I think it's very unfair to judge her like this.
I for little ones.

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there is so many differnt stories going around. i just dont get hwy the media is trashing her..and i would be so mad if they even digged into my personal information..they really should myob when it comes. because i bet in few weeks they will wind up trashing someone else on the news.

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