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BargainMama
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Posted by bookaddict1
Casey rejects visit from her mother in jail.
Surprise surprise. If I were her parents I would wash myself clean of her. She can go live with her lawyers.
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
I have to crash the thread because I can't seem to get the answer to my question: If casey was found not guilty does that mean they are still going to try to find out who did it or does the case end here?
Obviously I am not following the case - looking at that woman makes me sick - I think she is pathological.
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| Posted 7/8/11 5:14 PM |
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
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Posted by bookaddict1
Casey rejects visit from her mother in jail.
Surprise surprise. If I were her parents I would wash myself clean of her. She can go live with her lawyers.
I am not shocked her mom tried to go visit her...Cindy must live in the clouds
I would very surprised if George ever took her back
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Posted by BargainMama
Posted by bookaddict1
Casey rejects visit from her mother in jail.
Surprise surprise. If I were her parents I would wash myself clean of her. She can go live with her lawyers.
Oh well Jerry Springer offered Casey 1 mil to come on his show, but her family must also come, I do not see that happening at all.
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| Posted 7/8/11 5:15 PM |
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Posted by LadyH
I have to crash the thread because I can't seem to get the answer to my question: If casey was found not guilty does that mean they are still going to try to find out who did it or does the case end here?
Obviously I am not following the case - looking at that woman makes me sick - I think she is pathological.
Most likely ends...there are no other suspects...most likely it was her but..well...you know what happened 
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Posted by brownie
Posted by LadyH
I have to crash the thread because I can't seem to get the answer to my question: If casey was found not guilty does that mean they are still going to try to find out who did it or does the case end here?
Obviously I am not following the case - looking at that woman makes me sick - I think she is pathological.
Most likely ends...there are no other suspects...most likely it was her but..well...you know what happened
wow - really, I had a feeling but I was hoping that wasn't the answer. Thank you for the response
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Despite her not being convicted of being guilty, I can only hope Casey will walk around in fear and always looking over her shoulder having all these people as her enemies. But somehow I doubt this. But I do pray for it.  I hope she is paranoid for the rest of her life and that it drives her insane, b/c we sure know guilt won't get her.
Message edited 7/8/2011 5:21:12 PM.
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
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Posted by BargainMama
Posted by bookaddict1
Casey rejects visit from her mother in jail.
Surprise surprise. If I were her parents I would wash myself clean of her. She can go live with her lawyers.
Oh well Jerry Springer offered Casey 1 mil to come on his show, but her family must also come, I do not see that happening at all.
This deal is dead b/c of the backlash the show received 
Also, the talent agency that had taken Baez on as client "fired" him also b/c of backlash 
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
I hope people continue to fight any sources that offer to pay her or her attorneys any amount of money. I will boycott it all, and make my voice known to all outlets.
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
I am a few pages behind in this thread but just thought of a burning question. How could Scott Peterson have been convicted of murder and received the death sentence based mostly on circumstantial evidence? Seems like the CA trial had comparable evidence and we know how that turned out.
I know of course each trial is subject to the individual jury, but wondered if there was some wrinkle I missed.
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| Posted 7/8/11 5:33 PM |
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
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katiebug
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Posted by LadyH
Posted by brownie
Posted by LadyH
I have to crash the thread because I can't seem to get the answer to my question: If casey was found not guilty does that mean they are still going to try to find out who did it or does the case end here?
Obviously I am not following the case - looking at that woman makes me sick - I think she is pathological.
Most likely ends...there are no other suspects...most likely it was her but..well...you know what happened
wow - really, I had a feeling but I was hoping that wasn't the answer. Thank you for the response
Just because she was found not guilty does not mean she was found innocent of killing Caylee. It will be like the OJ case. I can almost guarantee they will come out with a statement that they feel the found the person who committed the crime and the case is closed.
Personally I feel they should close the case and not waste anymore money and resources on it since I feel Casey is guilty.
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Posted by katiebug
I hope people continue to fight any sources that offer to pay her or her attorneys any amount of money. I will boycott it all, and make my voice known to all outlets.
YES!! I will as well. I think this is the way to get to her. If she gets out of jail and no one offers her money for her story, etc. she will probably end up wishing she was still in jail
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Posted by muffaboo
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In my opinion the State of Florida made a tactical mistake by going after her for 1st degree murder and the death penalty. If the top charge had been 2nd degree murder the entire trial strategy would have been different. But because they wanted that 1st degree conviction they had to focus all their attention on their theory of the case (that CA intentionally caused the death of her child by overdosing her on chloroform), instead of a more plausible theory (that she accidentally killed her). I think if they went with felony murder as their theory of the case they would have presented more evidence of potential abuse of Caylee at the hands of her Casey.
The prosecution did speak about felony murder and went into depth about it in closing statements.
I know - but Ashton (during the rebuttal close) said something along the lines of if you don't find premeditation, although I dont' know how that's possible, but if you did etc. To me (and that's to me personally) when I heard that, he was really telling the jurors not to look at felony murder.
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| Posted 7/8/11 5:38 PM |
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Posted by DancinBarefoot
Posted by muffaboo
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In my opinion the State of Florida made a tactical mistake by going after her for 1st degree murder and the death penalty. If the top charge had been 2nd degree murder the entire trial strategy would have been different. But because they wanted that 1st degree conviction they had to focus all their attention on their theory of the case (that CA intentionally caused the death of her child by overdosing her on chloroform), instead of a more plausible theory (that she accidentally killed her). I think if they went with felony murder as their theory of the case they would have presented more evidence of potential abuse of Caylee at the hands of her Casey.
The prosecution did speak about felony murder and went into depth about it in closing statements.
I know - but Ashton (during the rebuttal close) said something along the lines of if you don't find premeditation, although I dont' know how that's possible, but if you did etc. To me (and that's to me personally) when I heard that, he was really telling the jurors not to look at felony murder.
I did not see his rebuttal that way at all. I took it as he was explaining what felony murder is so if you do not believe it was intentional/premeditated, that really doesn't matter. If you think she had a hand in an "accidental" death, which stemmed from any kind of wrongdoing on her part/abuse (i.e. chloroforming her to put her to sleep--not to kill her), then that is felony murder which falls under the first count of first degree murder.
That's how I took it...but we can agree to disagree
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FL Nana
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Thank you for the update, so glad they are being shut down at every avenue of making money.
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Posted by KellyNYC
I am a few pages behind in this thread but just thought of a burning question. How could Scott Peterson have been convicted of murder and received the death sentence based mostly on circumstantial evidence? Seems like the CA trial had comparable evidence and we know how that turned out.
I know of course each trial is subject to the individual jury, but wondered if there was some wrinkle I missed.
Well, IMO they are 2 different cases, two sets of circumstances, two different sets of evidence. I posted it a couple pages back, but Scott Peterson was found with bleached hair and goatee like a disguise, had $15,000 on him, stolen credit cards from family, camping equipment, changes of clothes, bunch of shoes...looked like he was trying to flee the country.... he also told Amber Frey that his wife had died before she disappeared. I suppose there was no reasonable doubt for those jurors with that evidence.
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Posted by KellyNYC
I am a few pages behind in this thread but just thought of a burning question. How could Scott Peterson have been convicted of murder and received the death sentence based mostly on circumstantial evidence? Seems like the CA trial had comparable evidence and we know how that turned out.
I know of course each trial is subject to the individual jury, but wondered if there was some wrinkle I missed.
I have been asking myself the same thing! I almost feel like there was less evidence against him, yet he got convicted. But it was the same situation, all based on his actions and that is what convicted him, yet here they feel it wasn't enough.
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Posted by Sunny10
Posted by KellyNYC
I am a few pages behind in this thread but just thought of a burning question. How could Scott Peterson have been convicted of murder and received the death sentence based mostly on circumstantial evidence? Seems like the CA trial had comparable evidence and we know how that turned out.
I know of course each trial is subject to the individual jury, but wondered if there was some wrinkle I missed.
I have been asking myself the same thing! I almost feel like there was less evidence against him, yet he got convicted. But it was the same situation, all based on his actions and that is what convicted him, yet here they feel it wasn't enough.
If Casey had been a man... HE would have been convicted.
The one thing I draw from this trial is the precedent it brings for future trials.
What it really says is that if you don't find physical evidence because the person was smart enough to have the body fully decompose, then circumstancial evidence don't count.
That only a witness, DNA, blood are what constitute evidence.
It's funny because I watch ID Investigation Discover all the time, and one father was questioned and under a lie detector because his teenage daughter was gone for 4 DAYS.
I think the jury got "confused" to follow the rules set by the judge. They got so scared to not doing it right that they did not fully understand "beyong a reasonable doubt". One of the juror said she did not know how Caylee died, where, etc... She looked so confused.
Yet they chose to believe that George was probably the one. Just based on "believing" the defence lawyer who brought no evidence.
I can see A LOT of perfect murders in the future. Just make sure you don't kill them involving them bleeding. Make sure it's near a Florida swamp.
I imagine a married man whose wife disappear, "kidnapped" by a former lover, does not report her missing, his parents question him and he admits her former lover took her over 1 month later. He goes partying, have a bella vita tattoo. Accuses his dad/mom of molesting him as a child, etc... They find her body months later. No DNA, no evidence. Claims his wife drowned in the pool. His dad found her. Found not guilty??? Really???
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Did anyone hear of this? My mother told me that out of all the trees in that wooded area where Caylee's remains were found, lightening struck the very tree that had her reamina nect to it. Kinda spooky huh? Maybe a sign that God sees all and she WILL have to answer to him one day.
I am so bothered that this sick woman was not found guilty in the first degree...it is a disgrace.
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Posted by muffaboo
Posted by Dee0522
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Where is the evidence that Casey put the duct tape on her?
They had me convinced when they found the heart sticker and sticker residue on the tape and then showed a picture of a sheet of heart stickers that were found by investgators in Casey's bedroom. Yes, her parents also live there but I doubt they knew about the stickers that were inside a shoebox with Casey's personal papers/letters.
They never showed the actual sticker.
I distinctly remember them handing the jury a bag with a heart sticker inside and it was on top of a piece of cardboard. I remember it b/c Baez fought to have it excluded due to the fact that the sticker had moved off of the cardboard. The judge allowed it and the jury passed it around. Was I imagining that? 
You're not imagining...they def showed the sticker
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While the sticker was introduced into evidence, it was not found with the body. It was on a random piece of cardboard found at the scene (along with a lot of other debris).
There is no evidence that there was a heart sticker on the duct tape itself except for something a lab tech may have seen. When she went to get her supervisor, there was no proof that there was a heart shaped residue there.
While there were NUMEROUS heart shaped stickers in Casey's room, not one of those stickers matched the sticker found on the piece of cardboard.
Hope that clarifies things.
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Posted by Bellaocchi
Did anyone hear of this? My mother told me that out of all the trees in that wooded area where Caylee's remains were found, lightening struck the very tree that had her reamina nect to it. Kinda spooky huh? Maybe a sign that God sees all and she WILL have to answer to him one day.
I am so bothered that this sick woman was not found guilty in the first degree...it is a disgrace.
Yep, read about it yesterday. The article said it was like "celestial justice" since Caylee got no justice here on Earth 
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Posted by DancinBarefoot
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I could never live with myself if I sentenced somebody to death with no actual proof.
It's not the juror's job to decide the sentencing
Actually, if they had found her guilty of 1st degree murder, the next thing that would have happened is the penalty phase - and yes, the jurors would have decided whether or not to give her the death penalty.
That was what I ment. I know you don't decide the sentence, but it's 1st degree murder in a death row state. Weither you know the law or not you can assume this would and can happen. I understand the negativity for the jury, but just because I don;t know that and they may not have either does not make it a bad jury. If that were the case then only people with law degrees in that state should be jurors. I'm sorry if my comments pisssed people off, but as a "peer" that will have jury duty next week i'm doing the best I can and praying like hellll that I have a simple case or get dismissed.
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Posted by smdl
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Posted by KellyNYC
I am a few pages behind in this thread but just thought of a burning question. How could Scott Peterson have been convicted of murder and received the death sentence based mostly on circumstantial evidence? Seems like the CA trial had comparable evidence and we know how that turned out.
I know of course each trial is subject to the individual jury, but wondered if there was some wrinkle I missed.
I have been asking myself the same thing! I almost feel like there was less evidence against him, yet he got convicted. But it was the same situation, all based on his actions and that is what convicted him, yet here they feel it wasn't enough.
If Casey had been a man... HE would have been convicted.
The one thing I draw from this trial is the precedent it brings for future trials.
What it really says is that if you don't find physical evidence because the person was smart enough to have the body fully decompose, then circumstancial evidence don't count.
That only a witness, DNA, blood are what constitute evidence.
It's funny because I watch ID Investigation Discover all the time, and one father was questioned and under a lie detector because his teenage daughter was gone for 4 DAYS.
I think the jury got "confused" to follow the rules set by the judge. They got so scared to not doing it right that they did not fully understand "beyong a reasonable doubt". One of the juror said she did not know how Caylee died, where, etc... She looked so confused.
Yet they chose to believe that George was probably the one. Just based on "believing" the defence lawyer who brought no evidence.
I can see A LOT of perfect murders in the future. Just make sure you don't kill them involving them bleeding. Make sure it's near a Florida swamp.
I imagine a married man whose wife disappear, "kidnapped" by a former lover, does not report her missing, his parents question him and he admits her former lover took her over 1 month later. He goes partying, have a bella vita tattoo. Accuses his dad/mom of molesting him as a child, etc... They find her body months later. No DNA, no evidence. Claims his wife drowned in the pool. His dad found her. Found not guilty??? Really???
I agree with what you said about that juror. She seemed VERY confused to me during the short interview I saw. She also said if you don't know how, why where, how can you convict? But you absolutely can convict. There are convictions without bodies being found.
It probably has been discussed already, but there was a 6-6 vote to manslaughter. How did it go to 12-0 in such a short time? UNBELIEVABLE!
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Posted by Sunny10
Posted by smdl
Posted by Sunny10
Posted by KellyNYC
I am a few pages behind in this thread but just thought of a burning question. How could Scott Peterson have been convicted of murder and received the death sentence based mostly on circumstantial evidence? Seems like the CA trial had comparable evidence and we know how that turned out.
I know of course each trial is subject to the individual jury, but wondered if there was some wrinkle I missed.
I have been asking myself the same thing! I almost feel like there was less evidence against him, yet he got convicted. But it was the same situation, all based on his actions and that is what convicted him, yet here they feel it wasn't enough.
If Casey had been a man... HE would have been convicted.
The one thing I draw from this trial is the precedent it brings for future trials.
What it really says is that if you don't find physical evidence because the person was smart enough to have the body fully decompose, then circumstancial evidence don't count.
That only a witness, DNA, blood are what constitute evidence.
It's funny because I watch ID Investigation Discover all the time, and one father was questioned and under a lie detector because his teenage daughter was gone for 4 DAYS.
I think the jury got "confused" to follow the rules set by the judge. They got so scared to not doing it right that they did not fully understand "beyong a reasonable doubt". One of the juror said she did not know how Caylee died, where, etc... She looked so confused.
Yet they chose to believe that George was probably the one. Just based on "believing" the defence lawyer who brought no evidence.
I can see A LOT of perfect murders in the future. Just make sure you don't kill them involving them bleeding. Make sure it's near a Florida swamp.
I imagine a married man whose wife disappear, "kidnapped" by a former lover, does not report her missing, his parents question him and he admits her former lover took her over 1 month later. He goes partying, have a bella vita tattoo. Accuses his dad/mom of molesting him as a child, etc... They find her body months later. No DNA, no evidence. Claims his wife drowned in the pool. His dad found her. Found not guilty??? Really???
I agree with what you said about that juror. She seemed VERY confused to me during the short interview I saw. She also said if you don't know how, why where, how can you convict? But you absolutely can convict. There are convictions without bodies being found.
It probably has been discussed already, but there was a 6-6 vote to manslaughter. How did it go to 12-0 in such a short time? UNBELIEVABLE!
I agree with this. To ME, there was NO reasonable doubt with the CA case. Certainly no more than the SP case. But "reasonable doubt" comes down to personal interpretation as well. While I get that there are some unanswered questions, none so much that I have actual reasonable doubt that she did it and would probably have convicted her accordingly. But know knows...as a PP mentioned, the death penalty sentence might play with my mind. I think we have no way of knowing what goes on in deliberations, the dynamic between the jurors, power of peer pressure, etc.
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