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Re: Covid prevention
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I agree. No one wants to talk about eating healthier, exercising, getting sleep, having less stress in your life.
They are throwing free donuts and alcohol to you for getting the vaccine.
Everyone wants the vaccine to be their “quick fix” because, honestly, we can all admit, we are a lazy society. We want things now and don’t want to put the work into getting them.
No one wants to talk about getting healthier or being healthy? Seriously? What world do you live in? Hundreds of thousands of very healthy people got sick with covid. Some VERY sick. Some died. The vaccine is not a "quick fix." It is life saving science. Living a healthy lifestyle is a great thing for everyone - but it is no cure for covid or many many other diseases and is not a substitute for vaccines.
No one is denying that healthy people got ill but the fact of the matter is that obesity greatly increased the severity of covid. Talk to any healthcare professional or do a simple google search. So it is kind of odd to offer things like free unhealthy food as an incentive to get a vaccine for a disease that very adversely affects obese people? Can you not see the irony there? It's like doing a fundraiser for diabetes by offering free donuts. It's counterproductive.
Yes, ww seems to be implying that if everyone lived a healthy lifestyle, covid wouldn't have been a pandemic, calling the vaccine a quick fix for lazy people. And I never said it was perfect, but offering a beer or a donut is not going to change someone's lifestyle - for better or worse. An honestly, if it got people to get the vaccine, I (yes me, just my opinion) think it's worth it.
Please don’t twist my words as that is not what I said. You have a better chance I’m not getting sick, being hospitalized and dying if you have a healthier lifestyle. You can not deny that with any virus or illness.
The point is not the one time donut but that no one is being encouraged to try and have a healthier lifestyle. A vaccine IS a quick fix to boost the immune system no matter how much you want to deny that.
But you called it a "quick fix for lazy people" - that's very different. I know many people of all levels of health who wanted the vaccine and got it. From marathon runners to overweight couch potatoes.
And yes, being healthier makes it easier to fight off most diseases. But as I said before, not all underlying conditions have to do with lifestyle. Not everyone who has an underlying condition is "lazy". Millions of people live healthy lifestyles and still have underlying health conditions.
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Re: Covid prevention
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by mrsrainbow
If you get off LIF and interact with human beings, PLENTY of people eat healthy and exercise. Your blanket generalizations show just how much you lack in interpersonal skills, tact, communication, and logic.
Plenty are overweight, obese and eat like crap. I know people who have had gastro more than once.
Everybody wants a quick fix. That magic pill.
Please stop with this "everybody" nonsense. You are way over generalizing. Yes, there are many obese people in our society, but there are many who are not. And many who exercise regularly, or maybe occasionally, some who eat super healthy or maybe just moderately so. Some who eat a box of yodels for dinner every night and some who eat only veggies. And EVERYTHING in between. The world is not so back and white. Your concrete way of viewing the world is blind to reality.
This is from the CDC site:
Adults
Percent of adults aged 20 and over with obesity: 42.5% (2017-2018)
Percent of adults aged 20 and over with overweight, including obesity: 73.6% (2017-2018)
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Re: Covid prevention
Posted by lululu
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by mrsrainbow
If you get off LIF and interact with human beings, PLENTY of people eat healthy and exercise. Your blanket generalizations show just how much you lack in interpersonal skills, tact, communication, and logic.
Plenty are overweight, obese and eat like crap. I know people who have had gastro more than once.
Everybody wants a quick fix. That magic pill.
Please stop with this "everybody" nonsense. You are way over generalizing. Yes, there are many obese people in our society, but there are many who are not. And many who exercise regularly, or maybe occasionally, some who eat super healthy or maybe just moderately so. Some who eat a box of yodels for dinner every night and some who eat only veggies. And EVERYTHING in between. The world is not so back and white. Your concrete way of viewing the world is blind to reality.
You are insane. You need to travel to other parts of the country. 42.4% of Americans are obese. That's crazy.
American's are a bunch of fat asses
Yeah i thought this was a known fact. That Americans are embarrassingly unhealthy and overweight compared to the rest of the world.
Food choices, the amount of processed foods, portion sizes, activity levels are all way different in Europe for example.
That's been common knowledge for years.
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Re: Covid prevention
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by windyweather21
I agree. No one wants to talk about eating healthier, exercising, getting sleep, having less stress in your life.
They are throwing free donuts and alcohol to you for getting the vaccine.
Everyone wants the vaccine to be their “quick fix” because, honestly, we can all admit, we are a lazy society. We want things now and don’t want to put the work into getting them.
No one wants to talk about getting healthier or being healthy? Seriously? What world do you live in? Hundreds of thousands of very healthy people got sick with covid. Some VERY sick. Some died. The vaccine is not a "quick fix." It is life saving science. Living a healthy lifestyle is a great thing for everyone - but it is no cure for covid or many many other diseases and is not a substitute for vaccines.
How about giving away lifetime memberships to gyms or healthy food service to get the vaccine. No we are pushing crap things because government knows that Americans are unhealthy and will jump for free crap.
Unless you know these “healthy” people by living with them 24/7, you have no clue what issues they had that will never be told or things they do on the side.
So get involved in your local government agency and make it happen....if you're sooooo smart and everything figured out.
Why can’t you just have a mature discussion without adding in a middle school attack? SMH
Government knows what “sells”.
No, because I don't believe in apathy. If you're apathetic and won't get involved then there's no one to blame but yourself. People who want to get things done, get things done. But if you think sitting on the sofa talking into thin air, not much good will come of it. But like you said, it's a lazy society.
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Re: Covid prevention
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by lululu
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by windyweather21
I agree. No one wants to talk about eating healthier, exercising, getting sleep, having less stress in your life.
They are throwing free donuts and alcohol to you for getting the vaccine.
Everyone wants the vaccine to be their “quick fix” because, honestly, we can all admit, we are a lazy society. We want things now and don’t want to put the work into getting them.
No one wants to talk about getting healthier or being healthy? Seriously? What world do you live in? Hundreds of thousands of very healthy people got sick with covid. Some VERY sick. Some died. The vaccine is not a "quick fix." It is life saving science. Living a healthy lifestyle is a great thing for everyone - but it is no cure for covid or many many other diseases and is not a substitute for vaccines.
No one is denying that healthy people got ill but the fact of the matter is that obesity greatly increased the severity of covid. Talk to any healthcare professional or do a simple google search. So it is kind of odd to offer things like free unhealthy food as an incentive to get a vaccine for a disease that very adversely affects obese people? Can you not see the irony there? It's like doing a fundraiser for diabetes by offering free donuts. It's counterproductive.
Yes, ww seems to be implying that if everyone lived a healthy lifestyle, covid wouldn't have been a pandemic, calling the vaccine a quick fix for lazy people. And I never said it was perfect, but offering a beer or a donut is not going to change someone's lifestyle - for better or worse. An honestly, if it got people to get the vaccine, I (yes me, just my opinion) think it's worth it.
Please don’t twist my words as that is not what I said. You have a better chance I’m not getting sick, being hospitalized and dying if you have a healthier lifestyle. You can not deny that with any virus or illness.
The point is not the one time donut but that no one is being encouraged to try and have a healthier lifestyle. A vaccine IS a quick fix to boost the immune system no matter how much you want to deny that.
But you called it a "quick fix for lazy people" - that's very different. I know many people of all levels of health who wanted the vaccine and got it. From marathon runners to overweight couch potatoes.
And yes, being healthier makes it easier to fight off most diseases. But as I said before, not all underlying conditions have to do with lifestyle. Not everyone who has an underlying condition is "lazy". Millions of people live healthy lifestyles and still have underlying health conditions.
Absolutely I agree with that many who live healthy lifestyles have underlying conditions.
Ding ding, sooooo people who state they have healthy lifestyles were STILL getting Covid worse than others BECAUSE they have underlying conditions.
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chilltocam
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Re: Covid prevention
Posted by lululu
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by mrsrainbow
If you get off LIF and interact with human beings, PLENTY of people eat healthy and exercise. Your blanket generalizations show just how much you lack in interpersonal skills, tact, communication, and logic.
Plenty are overweight, obese and eat like crap. I know people who have had gastro more than once.
Everybody wants a quick fix. That magic pill.
Please stop with this "everybody" nonsense. You are way over generalizing. Yes, there are many obese people in our society, but there are many who are not. And many who exercise regularly, or maybe occasionally, some who eat super healthy or maybe just moderately so. Some who eat a box of yodels for dinner every night and some who eat only veggies. And EVERYTHING in between. The world is not so back and white. Your concrete way of viewing the world is blind to reality.
You are insane. You need to travel to other parts of the country. 42.4% of Americans are obese. That's crazy.
American's are a bunch of fat asses
So your point is that less than half of Americans are obese? So as I said, it's not EVERYBODY. And I have traveled all over this country and world. If you read my posts I did say many are obese. And I did say being healthy is a good thing generally. But to say "everybody" is one thing or another - that is what is insane
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Re: Covid prevention
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by lululu
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by mrsrainbow
If you get off LIF and interact with human beings, PLENTY of people eat healthy and exercise. Your blanket generalizations show just how much you lack in interpersonal skills, tact, communication, and logic.
Plenty are overweight, obese and eat like crap. I know people who have had gastro more than once.
Everybody wants a quick fix. That magic pill.
Please stop with this "everybody" nonsense. You are way over generalizing. Yes, there are many obese people in our society, but there are many who are not. And many who exercise regularly, or maybe occasionally, some who eat super healthy or maybe just moderately so. Some who eat a box of yodels for dinner every night and some who eat only veggies. And EVERYTHING in between. The world is not so back and white. Your concrete way of viewing the world is blind to reality.
You are insane. You need to travel to other parts of the country. 42.4% of Americans are obese. That's crazy.
American's are a bunch of fat asses
Yeah i thought this was a known fact. That Americans are embarrassingly unhealthy and overweight compared to the rest of the world.
Food choices, the amount of processed foods, portion sizes, activity levels are all way different in Europe for example.
That's been common knowledge for years.
It is common knowledge so not sure why this is even being debated. I think the average woman’s clothing size is now 14 if I am not mistaken. I bet years ago before all this processed crap it was lower.
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Re: Covid prevention
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by lululu
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by mrsrainbow
If you get off LIF and interact with human beings, PLENTY of people eat healthy and exercise. Your blanket generalizations show just how much you lack in interpersonal skills, tact, communication, and logic.
Plenty are overweight, obese and eat like crap. I know people who have had gastro more than once.
Everybody wants a quick fix. That magic pill.
Please stop with this "everybody" nonsense. You are way over generalizing. Yes, there are many obese people in our society, but there are many who are not. And many who exercise regularly, or maybe occasionally, some who eat super healthy or maybe just moderately so. Some who eat a box of yodels for dinner every night and some who eat only veggies. And EVERYTHING in between. The world is not so back and white. Your concrete way of viewing the world is blind to reality.
You are insane. You need to travel to other parts of the country. 42.4% of Americans are obese. That's crazy.
American's are a bunch of fat asses
So your point is that less than half of Americans are obese? So as I said, it's not EVERYBODY. And I have traveled all over this country and world. If you read my posts I did say many are obese. And I did say being healthy is a good thing generally. But to say "everybody" is one thing or another - that is what is insane
From 2011...In 2020, 83 percent of men and 72 percent of women will be overweight or obese. Currently, 72 percent of men and 63 percent of women are overweight or obese (people who are overweight have a BMI of 25 to 29, people who are obese have a BMI of 30 or greater).
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chilltocam
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Re: Covid prevention
Posted by windyweather21
This is from the CDC site:
Adults
Percent of adults aged 20 and over with obesity: 42.5% (2017-2018)
Percent of adults aged 20 and over with overweight, including obesity: 73.6% (2017-2018)
Oh, wait, so now you believe what the CDC has to say??? 
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Re: Covid prevention
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by lululu
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by mrsrainbow
If you get off LIF and interact with human beings, PLENTY of people eat healthy and exercise. Your blanket generalizations show just how much you lack in interpersonal skills, tact, communication, and logic.
Plenty are overweight, obese and eat like crap. I know people who have had gastro more than once.
Everybody wants a quick fix. That magic pill.
Please stop with this "everybody" nonsense. You are way over generalizing. Yes, there are many obese people in our society, but there are many who are not. And many who exercise regularly, or maybe occasionally, some who eat super healthy or maybe just moderately so. Some who eat a box of yodels for dinner every night and some who eat only veggies. And EVERYTHING in between. The world is not so back and white. Your concrete way of viewing the world is blind to reality.
You are insane. You need to travel to other parts of the country. 42.4% of Americans are obese. That's crazy.
American's are a bunch of fat asses
So your point is that less than half of Americans are obese? So as I said, it's not EVERYBODY. And I have traveled all over this country and world. If you read my posts I did say many are obese. And I did say being healthy is a good thing generally. But to say "everybody" is one thing or another - that is what is insane
If you don't think that 42.4% is a ridiculously large number you are crazy. Nobody said EVERYBODY. And that is just obese. Not including overweight people. Americans are FAT!!!!
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chilltocam
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Re: Covid prevention
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by lululu
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by windyweather21
I agree. No one wants to talk about eating healthier, exercising, getting sleep, having less stress in your life.
They are throwing free donuts and alcohol to you for getting the vaccine.
Everyone wants the vaccine to be their “quick fix” because, honestly, we can all admit, we are a lazy society. We want things now and don’t want to put the work into getting them.
No one wants to talk about getting healthier or being healthy? Seriously? What world do you live in? Hundreds of thousands of very healthy people got sick with covid. Some VERY sick. Some died. The vaccine is not a "quick fix." It is life saving science. Living a healthy lifestyle is a great thing for everyone - but it is no cure for covid or many many other diseases and is not a substitute for vaccines.
No one is denying that healthy people got ill but the fact of the matter is that obesity greatly increased the severity of covid. Talk to any healthcare professional or do a simple google search. So it is kind of odd to offer things like free unhealthy food as an incentive to get a vaccine for a disease that very adversely affects obese people? Can you not see the irony there? It's like doing a fundraiser for diabetes by offering free donuts. It's counterproductive.
Yes, ww seems to be implying that if everyone lived a healthy lifestyle, covid wouldn't have been a pandemic, calling the vaccine a quick fix for lazy people. And I never said it was perfect, but offering a beer or a donut is not going to change someone's lifestyle - for better or worse. An honestly, if it got people to get the vaccine, I (yes me, just my opinion) think it's worth it.
Please don’t twist my words as that is not what I said. You have a better chance I’m not getting sick, being hospitalized and dying if you have a healthier lifestyle. You can not deny that with any virus or illness.
The point is not the one time donut but that no one is being encouraged to try and have a healthier lifestyle. A vaccine IS a quick fix to boost the immune system no matter how much you want to deny that.
But you called it a "quick fix for lazy people" - that's very different. I know many people of all levels of health who wanted the vaccine and got it. From marathon runners to overweight couch potatoes.
And yes, being healthier makes it easier to fight off most diseases. But as I said before, not all underlying conditions have to do with lifestyle. Not everyone who has an underlying condition is "lazy". Millions of people live healthy lifestyles and still have underlying health conditions.
Absolutely I agree with that many who live healthy lifestyles have underlying conditions.
Ding ding, sooooo people who state they have healthy lifestyles were STILL getting Covid worse than others BECAUSE they have underlying conditions.
Yes, someone with an underlying condition can have much more severe effects from covid. But there are thousand and thousand of very healthy people, with no underlying conditions that got severely ill and died from covid. My whole point being, while a healthy lifestyle is a good thing for everyone,, it does not prevent covid, nor does it always prevent someone from dying. Not everyone who died from covid had underlying conditions, was obese or lived an unhealthy lifestyle. I am not debating the benefits of eating right and exercising. But it is not a cure-all for this disease.
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Ahh true
Thinking they have this one right though lol
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chilltocam
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Re: Covid prevention
Posted by lululu
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by lululu
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by mrsrainbow
If you get off LIF and interact with human beings, PLENTY of people eat healthy and exercise. Your blanket generalizations show just how much you lack in interpersonal skills, tact, communication, and logic.
Plenty are overweight, obese and eat like crap. I know people who have had gastro more than once.
Everybody wants a quick fix. That magic pill.
Please stop with this "everybody" nonsense. You are way over generalizing. Yes, there are many obese people in our society, but there are many who are not. And many who exercise regularly, or maybe occasionally, some who eat super healthy or maybe just moderately so. Some who eat a box of yodels for dinner every night and some who eat only veggies. And EVERYTHING in between. The world is not so back and white. Your concrete way of viewing the world is blind to reality.
You are insane. You need to travel to other parts of the country. 42.4% of Americans are obese. That's crazy.
American's are a bunch of fat asses
So your point is that less than half of Americans are obese? So as I said, it's not EVERYBODY. And I have traveled all over this country and world. If you read my posts I did say many are obese. And I did say being healthy is a good thing generally. But to say "everybody" is one thing or another - that is what is insane
If you don't think that 42.4% is a ridiculously large number you are crazy. Nobody said EVERYBODY. And that is just obese. Not including overweight people. Americans are FAT!!!!
I never said it wasn't a large number, I said it was less than half, which it is - but you were trying to prove a point, supporting WW who actually did say EVERYBODY. Less than half is not EVERYBODY.
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Re: Covid prevention
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by lululu
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by windyweather21
I agree. No one wants to talk about eating healthier, exercising, getting sleep, having less stress in your life.
They are throwing free donuts and alcohol to you for getting the vaccine.
Everyone wants the vaccine to be their “quick fix” because, honestly, we can all admit, we are a lazy society. We want things now and don’t want to put the work into getting them.
No one wants to talk about getting healthier or being healthy? Seriously? What world do you live in? Hundreds of thousands of very healthy people got sick with covid. Some VERY sick. Some died. The vaccine is not a "quick fix." It is life saving science. Living a healthy lifestyle is a great thing for everyone - but it is no cure for covid or many many other diseases and is not a substitute for vaccines.
No one is denying that healthy people got ill but the fact of the matter is that obesity greatly increased the severity of covid. Talk to any healthcare professional or do a simple google search. So it is kind of odd to offer things like free unhealthy food as an incentive to get a vaccine for a disease that very adversely affects obese people? Can you not see the irony there? It's like doing a fundraiser for diabetes by offering free donuts. It's counterproductive.
Yes, ww seems to be implying that if everyone lived a healthy lifestyle, covid wouldn't have been a pandemic, calling the vaccine a quick fix for lazy people. And I never said it was perfect, but offering a beer or a donut is not going to change someone's lifestyle - for better or worse. An honestly, if it got people to get the vaccine, I (yes me, just my opinion) think it's worth it.
Please don’t twist my words as that is not what I said. You have a better chance I’m not getting sick, being hospitalized and dying if you have a healthier lifestyle. You can not deny that with any virus or illness.
The point is not the one time donut but that no one is being encouraged to try and have a healthier lifestyle. A vaccine IS a quick fix to boost the immune system no matter how much you want to deny that.
But you called it a "quick fix for lazy people" - that's very different. I know many people of all levels of health who wanted the vaccine and got it. From marathon runners to overweight couch potatoes.
And yes, being healthier makes it easier to fight off most diseases. But as I said before, not all underlying conditions have to do with lifestyle. Not everyone who has an underlying condition is "lazy". Millions of people live healthy lifestyles and still have underlying health conditions.
Absolutely I agree with that many who live healthy lifestyles have underlying conditions.
Ding ding, sooooo people who state they have healthy lifestyles were STILL getting Covid worse than others BECAUSE they have underlying conditions.
Yes, someone with an underlying condition can have much more severe effects from covid. But there are thousand and thousand of very healthy people, with no underlying conditions that got severely ill and died from covid. My whole point being, while a healthy lifestyle is a good thing for everyone,, it does not prevent covid, nor does it always prevent someone from dying. Not everyone who died from covid had underlying conditions, was obese or lived an unhealthy lifestyle. I am not debating the benefits of eating right and exercising. But it is not a cure-all for this disease.
Taking care of yourself will always supersede not and help towards not getting sick.
My mom is a very routine person when it comes to eating, too much sometimes, but knows that if she skips a meal or eats much later than usual, she will get sick. She had always said in 3 days you will get sick. I always laughed at that but when I get a cold I will count back 3 days and think back what I did that day and more often than none, I didn’t eat much or later than usual or experienced something that would lower my immune system.
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Re: Covid prevention
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by lululu
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by windyweather21
I agree. No one wants to talk about eating healthier, exercising, getting sleep, having less stress in your life.
They are throwing free donuts and alcohol to you for getting the vaccine.
Everyone wants the vaccine to be their “quick fix” because, honestly, we can all admit, we are a lazy society. We want things now and don’t want to put the work into getting them.
No one wants to talk about getting healthier or being healthy? Seriously? What world do you live in? Hundreds of thousands of very healthy people got sick with covid. Some VERY sick. Some died. The vaccine is not a "quick fix." It is life saving science. Living a healthy lifestyle is a great thing for everyone - but it is no cure for covid or many many other diseases and is not a substitute for vaccines.
No one is denying that healthy people got ill but the fact of the matter is that obesity greatly increased the severity of covid. Talk to any healthcare professional or do a simple google search. So it is kind of odd to offer things like free unhealthy food as an incentive to get a vaccine for a disease that very adversely affects obese people? Can you not see the irony there? It's like doing a fundraiser for diabetes by offering free donuts. It's counterproductive.
Yes, ww seems to be implying that if everyone lived a healthy lifestyle, covid wouldn't have been a pandemic, calling the vaccine a quick fix for lazy people. And I never said it was perfect, but offering a beer or a donut is not going to change someone's lifestyle - for better or worse. An honestly, if it got people to get the vaccine, I (yes me, just my opinion) think it's worth it.
Please don’t twist my words as that is not what I said. You have a better chance I’m not getting sick, being hospitalized and dying if you have a healthier lifestyle. You can not deny that with any virus or illness.
The point is not the one time donut but that no one is being encouraged to try and have a healthier lifestyle. A vaccine IS a quick fix to boost the immune system no matter how much you want to deny that.
But you called it a "quick fix for lazy people" - that's very different. I know many people of all levels of health who wanted the vaccine and got it. From marathon runners to overweight couch potatoes.
And yes, being healthier makes it easier to fight off most diseases. But as I said before, not all underlying conditions have to do with lifestyle. Not everyone who has an underlying condition is "lazy". Millions of people live healthy lifestyles and still have underlying health conditions.
Absolutely I agree with that many who live healthy lifestyles have underlying conditions.
Ding ding, sooooo people who state they have healthy lifestyles were STILL getting Covid worse than others BECAUSE they have underlying conditions.
Yes, someone with an underlying condition can have much more severe effects from covid. But there are thousand and thousand of very healthy people, with no underlying conditions that got severely ill and died from covid. My whole point being, while a healthy lifestyle is a good thing for everyone,, it does not prevent covid, nor does it always prevent someone from dying. Not everyone who died from covid had underlying conditions, was obese or lived an unhealthy lifestyle. I am not debating the benefits of eating right and exercising. But it is not a cure-all for this disease.
The fact of the matter is that the people that were affected most by covid were people with comorbidities. Most healthy people were only mildly affected by covid.
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Re: Covid prevention
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by lululu
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by lululu
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by mrsrainbow
If you get off LIF and interact with human beings, PLENTY of people eat healthy and exercise. Your blanket generalizations show just how much you lack in interpersonal skills, tact, communication, and logic.
Plenty are overweight, obese and eat like crap. I know people who have had gastro more than once.
Everybody wants a quick fix. That magic pill.
Please stop with this "everybody" nonsense. You are way over generalizing. Yes, there are many obese people in our society, but there are many who are not. And many who exercise regularly, or maybe occasionally, some who eat super healthy or maybe just moderately so. Some who eat a box of yodels for dinner every night and some who eat only veggies. And EVERYTHING in between. The world is not so back and white. Your concrete way of viewing the world is blind to reality.
You are insane. You need to travel to other parts of the country. 42.4% of Americans are obese. That's crazy.
American's are a bunch of fat asses
So your point is that less than half of Americans are obese? So as I said, it's not EVERYBODY. And I have traveled all over this country and world. If you read my posts I did say many are obese. And I did say being healthy is a good thing generally. But to say "everybody" is one thing or another - that is what is insane
If you don't think that 42.4% is a ridiculously large number you are crazy. Nobody said EVERYBODY. And that is just obese. Not including overweight people. Americans are FAT!!!!
I never said it wasn't a large number, I said it was less than half, which it is - but you were trying to prove a point, supporting WW who actually did say EVERYBODY. Less than half is not EVERYBODY.
Ok so not EVERYBODY, smh. I figured you would understand that but I guess you are extremely stringent with certain words. It’s kind of like people who don’t get sarcasm. I live my life being sarcastic as well as everyone else around me so I don’t get when people are not lol.
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| Posted 6/11/21 10:57 AM |
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lululu
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Re: Covid prevention
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by lululu
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by lululu
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by mrsrainbow
If you get off LIF and interact with human beings, PLENTY of people eat healthy and exercise. Your blanket generalizations show just how much you lack in interpersonal skills, tact, communication, and logic.
Plenty are overweight, obese and eat like crap. I know people who have had gastro more than once.
Everybody wants a quick fix. That magic pill.
Please stop with this "everybody" nonsense. You are way over generalizing. Yes, there are many obese people in our society, but there are many who are not. And many who exercise regularly, or maybe occasionally, some who eat super healthy or maybe just moderately so. Some who eat a box of yodels for dinner every night and some who eat only veggies. And EVERYTHING in between. The world is not so back and white. Your concrete way of viewing the world is blind to reality.
You are insane. You need to travel to other parts of the country. 42.4% of Americans are obese. That's crazy.
American's are a bunch of fat asses
So your point is that less than half of Americans are obese? So as I said, it's not EVERYBODY. And I have traveled all over this country and world. If you read my posts I did say many are obese. And I did say being healthy is a good thing generally. But to say "everybody" is one thing or another - that is what is insane
If you don't think that 42.4% is a ridiculously large number you are crazy. Nobody said EVERYBODY. And that is just obese. Not including overweight people. Americans are FAT!!!!
I never said it wasn't a large number, I said it was less than half, which it is - but you were trying to prove a point, supporting WW who actually did say EVERYBODY. Less than half is not EVERYBODY.
She said EVERYBODY WANTS A QUICK FIX.
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| Posted 6/11/21 10:57 AM |
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Re: Covid prevention
Posted by lululu
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by lululu
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by windyweather21
I agree. No one wants to talk about eating healthier, exercising, getting sleep, having less stress in your life.
They are throwing free donuts and alcohol to you for getting the vaccine.
Everyone wants the vaccine to be their “quick fix” because, honestly, we can all admit, we are a lazy society. We want things now and don’t want to put the work into getting them.
No one wants to talk about getting healthier or being healthy? Seriously? What world do you live in? Hundreds of thousands of very healthy people got sick with covid. Some VERY sick. Some died. The vaccine is not a "quick fix." It is life saving science. Living a healthy lifestyle is a great thing for everyone - but it is no cure for covid or many many other diseases and is not a substitute for vaccines.
No one is denying that healthy people got ill but the fact of the matter is that obesity greatly increased the severity of covid. Talk to any healthcare professional or do a simple google search. So it is kind of odd to offer things like free unhealthy food as an incentive to get a vaccine for a disease that very adversely affects obese people? Can you not see the irony there? It's like doing a fundraiser for diabetes by offering free donuts. It's counterproductive.
Yes, ww seems to be implying that if everyone lived a healthy lifestyle, covid wouldn't have been a pandemic, calling the vaccine a quick fix for lazy people. And I never said it was perfect, but offering a beer or a donut is not going to change someone's lifestyle - for better or worse. An honestly, if it got people to get the vaccine, I (yes me, just my opinion) think it's worth it.
Please don’t twist my words as that is not what I said. You have a better chance I’m not getting sick, being hospitalized and dying if you have a healthier lifestyle. You can not deny that with any virus or illness.
The point is not the one time donut but that no one is being encouraged to try and have a healthier lifestyle. A vaccine IS a quick fix to boost the immune system no matter how much you want to deny that.
But you called it a "quick fix for lazy people" - that's very different. I know many people of all levels of health who wanted the vaccine and got it. From marathon runners to overweight couch potatoes.
And yes, being healthier makes it easier to fight off most diseases. But as I said before, not all underlying conditions have to do with lifestyle. Not everyone who has an underlying condition is "lazy". Millions of people live healthy lifestyles and still have underlying health conditions.
Absolutely I agree with that many who live healthy lifestyles have underlying conditions.
Ding ding, sooooo people who state they have healthy lifestyles were STILL getting Covid worse than others BECAUSE they have underlying conditions.
Yes, someone with an underlying condition can have much more severe effects from covid. But there are thousand and thousand of very healthy people, with no underlying conditions that got severely ill and died from covid. My whole point being, while a healthy lifestyle is a good thing for everyone,, it does not prevent covid, nor does it always prevent someone from dying. Not everyone who died from covid had underlying conditions, was obese or lived an unhealthy lifestyle. I am not debating the benefits of eating right and exercising. But it is not a cure-all for this disease.
The fact of the matter is that the people that were affected most by covid were people with comorbidities. Most healthy people were only mildly affected by covid.
BIN.GO
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| Posted 6/11/21 10:57 AM |
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chilltocam
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Member since 11/11 9141 total posts
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Re: Covid prevention
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by lululu
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by lululu
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by windyweather21
I agree. No one wants to talk about eating healthier, exercising, getting sleep, having less stress in your life.
They are throwing free donuts and alcohol to you for getting the vaccine.
Everyone wants the vaccine to be their “quick fix” because, honestly, we can all admit, we are a lazy society. We want things now and don’t want to put the work into getting them.
No one wants to talk about getting healthier or being healthy? Seriously? What world do you live in? Hundreds of thousands of very healthy people got sick with covid. Some VERY sick. Some died. The vaccine is not a "quick fix." It is life saving science. Living a healthy lifestyle is a great thing for everyone - but it is no cure for covid or many many other diseases and is not a substitute for vaccines.
No one is denying that healthy people got ill but the fact of the matter is that obesity greatly increased the severity of covid. Talk to any healthcare professional or do a simple google search. So it is kind of odd to offer things like free unhealthy food as an incentive to get a vaccine for a disease that very adversely affects obese people? Can you not see the irony there? It's like doing a fundraiser for diabetes by offering free donuts. It's counterproductive.
Yes, ww seems to be implying that if everyone lived a healthy lifestyle, covid wouldn't have been a pandemic, calling the vaccine a quick fix for lazy people. And I never said it was perfect, but offering a beer or a donut is not going to change someone's lifestyle - for better or worse. An honestly, if it got people to get the vaccine, I (yes me, just my opinion) think it's worth it.
Please don’t twist my words as that is not what I said. You have a better chance I’m not getting sick, being hospitalized and dying if you have a healthier lifestyle. You can not deny that with any virus or illness.
The point is not the one time donut but that no one is being encouraged to try and have a healthier lifestyle. A vaccine IS a quick fix to boost the immune system no matter how much you want to deny that.
But you called it a "quick fix for lazy people" - that's very different. I know many people of all levels of health who wanted the vaccine and got it. From marathon runners to overweight couch potatoes.
And yes, being healthier makes it easier to fight off most diseases. But as I said before, not all underlying conditions have to do with lifestyle. Not everyone who has an underlying condition is "lazy". Millions of people live healthy lifestyles and still have underlying health conditions.
Absolutely I agree with that many who live healthy lifestyles have underlying conditions.
Ding ding, sooooo people who state they have healthy lifestyles were STILL getting Covid worse than others BECAUSE they have underlying conditions.
Yes, someone with an underlying condition can have much more severe effects from covid. But there are thousand and thousand of very healthy people, with no underlying conditions that got severely ill and died from covid. My whole point being, while a healthy lifestyle is a good thing for everyone,, it does not prevent covid, nor does it always prevent someone from dying. Not everyone who died from covid had underlying conditions, was obese or lived an unhealthy lifestyle. I am not debating the benefits of eating right and exercising. But it is not a cure-all for this disease.
The fact of the matter is that the people that were affected most by covid were people with comorbidities. Most healthy people were only mildly affected by covid.
BIN.GO
But the fact of the matter is also that MANY MANY (thousands) who got extremely ill or died did not have any underlying conditions. That is also a fact.
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| Posted 6/11/21 11:15 AM |
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GoldenRod
10 years on LIF!
Member since 11/06 26792 total posts
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Shawn
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Re: Covid prevention
According to BMI charts:
Chris "Thor" Hemsworth is overweight
Jason "Aquaman" Mamoa is overweight
Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson is obese
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| Posted 6/11/21 11:36 AM |
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Re: Covid prevention
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by lululu
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by lululu
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by windyweather21
I agree. No one wants to talk about eating healthier, exercising, getting sleep, having less stress in your life.
They are throwing free donuts and alcohol to you for getting the vaccine.
Everyone wants the vaccine to be their “quick fix” because, honestly, we can all admit, we are a lazy society. We want things now and don’t want to put the work into getting them.
No one wants to talk about getting healthier or being healthy? Seriously? What world do you live in? Hundreds of thousands of very healthy people got sick with covid. Some VERY sick. Some died. The vaccine is not a "quick fix." It is life saving science. Living a healthy lifestyle is a great thing for everyone - but it is no cure for covid or many many other diseases and is not a substitute for vaccines.
No one is denying that healthy people got ill but the fact of the matter is that obesity greatly increased the severity of covid. Talk to any healthcare professional or do a simple google search. So it is kind of odd to offer things like free unhealthy food as an incentive to get a vaccine for a disease that very adversely affects obese people? Can you not see the irony there? It's like doing a fundraiser for diabetes by offering free donuts. It's counterproductive.
Yes, ww seems to be implying that if everyone lived a healthy lifestyle, covid wouldn't have been a pandemic, calling the vaccine a quick fix for lazy people. And I never said it was perfect, but offering a beer or a donut is not going to change someone's lifestyle - for better or worse. An honestly, if it got people to get the vaccine, I (yes me, just my opinion) think it's worth it.
Please don’t twist my words as that is not what I said. You have a better chance I’m not getting sick, being hospitalized and dying if you have a healthier lifestyle. You can not deny that with any virus or illness.
The point is not the one time donut but that no one is being encouraged to try and have a healthier lifestyle. A vaccine IS a quick fix to boost the immune system no matter how much you want to deny that.
But you called it a "quick fix for lazy people" - that's very different. I know many people of all levels of health who wanted the vaccine and got it. From marathon runners to overweight couch potatoes.
And yes, being healthier makes it easier to fight off most diseases. But as I said before, not all underlying conditions have to do with lifestyle. Not everyone who has an underlying condition is "lazy". Millions of people live healthy lifestyles and still have underlying health conditions.
Absolutely I agree with that many who live healthy lifestyles have underlying conditions.
Ding ding, sooooo people who state they have healthy lifestyles were STILL getting Covid worse than others BECAUSE they have underlying conditions.
Yes, someone with an underlying condition can have much more severe effects from covid. But there are thousand and thousand of very healthy people, with no underlying conditions that got severely ill and died from covid. My whole point being, while a healthy lifestyle is a good thing for everyone,, it does not prevent covid, nor does it always prevent someone from dying. Not everyone who died from covid had underlying conditions, was obese or lived an unhealthy lifestyle. I am not debating the benefits of eating right and exercising. But it is not a cure-all for this disease.
The fact of the matter is that the people that were affected most by covid were people with comorbidities. Most healthy people were only mildly affected by covid.
BIN.GO
But the fact of the matter is also that MANY MANY (thousands) who got extremely ill or died did not have any underlying conditions. That is also a fact.
How can we really know that though? It’s another stat that we are just told.
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| Posted 6/11/21 11:38 AM |
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chilltocam
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Re: Covid prevention
Posted by lululu
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by lululu
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by lululu
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by mrsrainbow
If you get off LIF and interact with human beings, PLENTY of people eat healthy and exercise. Your blanket generalizations show just how much you lack in interpersonal skills, tact, communication, and logic.
Plenty are overweight, obese and eat like crap. I know people who have had gastro more than once.
Everybody wants a quick fix. That magic pill.
Please stop with this "everybody" nonsense. You are way over generalizing. Yes, there are many obese people in our society, but there are many who are not. And many who exercise regularly, or maybe occasionally, some who eat super healthy or maybe just moderately so. Some who eat a box of yodels for dinner every night and some who eat only veggies. And EVERYTHING in between. The world is not so back and white. Your concrete way of viewing the world is blind to reality.
You are insane. You need to travel to other parts of the country. 42.4% of Americans are obese. That's crazy.
American's are a bunch of fat asses
So your point is that less than half of Americans are obese? So as I said, it's not EVERYBODY. And I have traveled all over this country and world. If you read my posts I did say many are obese. And I did say being healthy is a good thing generally. But to say "everybody" is one thing or another - that is what is insane
If you don't think that 42.4% is a ridiculously large number you are crazy. Nobody said EVERYBODY. And that is just obese. Not including overweight people. Americans are FAT!!!!
I never said it wasn't a large number, I said it was less than half, which it is - but you were trying to prove a point, supporting WW who actually did say EVERYBODY. Less than half is not EVERYBODY.
She said EVERYBODY WANTS A QUICK FIX.
What she said was "Everyone wants the vaccine to be their “quick fix” because, honestly, we can all admit, we are a lazy society."
All I asked was that she not over generalize using the word "everyone" or "everybody"
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| Posted 6/11/21 11:42 AM |
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Re: Covid prevention
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by lululu
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by lululu
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by lululu
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by mrsrainbow
If you get off LIF and interact with human beings, PLENTY of people eat healthy and exercise. Your blanket generalizations show just how much you lack in interpersonal skills, tact, communication, and logic.
Plenty are overweight, obese and eat like crap. I know people who have had gastro more than once.
Everybody wants a quick fix. That magic pill.
Please stop with this "everybody" nonsense. You are way over generalizing. Yes, there are many obese people in our society, but there are many who are not. And many who exercise regularly, or maybe occasionally, some who eat super healthy or maybe just moderately so. Some who eat a box of yodels for dinner every night and some who eat only veggies. And EVERYTHING in between. The world is not so back and white. Your concrete way of viewing the world is blind to reality.
You are insane. You need to travel to other parts of the country. 42.4% of Americans are obese. That's crazy.
American's are a bunch of fat asses
So your point is that less than half of Americans are obese? So as I said, it's not EVERYBODY. And I have traveled all over this country and world. If you read my posts I did say many are obese. And I did say being healthy is a good thing generally. But to say "everybody" is one thing or another - that is what is insane
If you don't think that 42.4% is a ridiculously large number you are crazy. Nobody said EVERYBODY. And that is just obese. Not including overweight people. Americans are FAT!!!!
I never said it wasn't a large number, I said it was less than half, which it is - but you were trying to prove a point, supporting WW who actually did say EVERYBODY. Less than half is not EVERYBODY.
She said EVERYBODY WANTS A QUICK FIX.
What she said was "Everyone wants the vaccine to be their “quick fix” because, honestly, we can all admit, we are a lazy society."
All I asked was that she not over generalize using the word "everyone" or "everybody"
Understood
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| Posted 6/11/21 11:53 AM |
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Katareen
5,000 Posts!
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Katherine
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Covid prevention
I’m pretty sure anyone with a brain knows that eating healthy, exercising, not drinking/smoking will lead to an overall healthier body. This isn’t new information.
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| Posted 6/11/21 12:02 PM |
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lululu
LIF Adult
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Re: Covid prevention
Posted by Katareen
I’m pretty sure anyone with a brain knows that eating healthy, exercising, not drinking/smoking will lead to an overall healthier body. This isn’t new information.
But, to LittleDiva's point, there are things that talking to your healthcare provider can point out that you otherwise would not have been aware. For example, yesterday I learned exactly what type of multivitamin my son should be taking based on his nutrition, age and stage of development. Also, my husband learned of an iron deficiency from bloodwork that was run at his last physical. There is a lot of information that you can get by just doing an annual physical and listening to what your doctor has to tell you. It's not only about exercise, weight and eating healthy.
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| Posted 6/11/21 12:09 PM |
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