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CVS? Amnio? Both? Neither?

Just curious which test(s) you had and how far along were you when you had the test. If you chose one over another, how did you come this this decision?

Posted 12/4/08 3:59 PM
 
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Re: CVS? Amnio? Both? Neither?

We did none of the above and none of the other statistical "marking tests" such as the AFP or neuchal translucensy test.

Our decision was based off the fact that we would not want to take the risks associated with CVS and Amnio when we would never abort the baby. Also, I didn't want to deal with "false positives" from the other exams and worry the rest of my pregnancy because I would never get teh CVS or amnio....

Its a personal decision that needs to be made with your partner...... Everyone chooses what is right for them and their baby!

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Posted 12/4/08 4:03 PM
 

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Re: CVS? Amnio? Both? Neither?

I didn't have either of these.

Posted 12/4/08 4:08 PM
 

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Re: CVS? Amnio? Both? Neither?

I didn't have either because all of the screens prior didn't warrant it.

However, if I were to get pregnant again I'd have a CVS as now there are known chromosome issues in the family.

My reasoning, I have 2 children & would not have continued a pregnancy with any major known chromosome issue. I realize this is controversial, but it's not a burden I would knowingly put on my children.


etd I would opt for a CVS because I would want to know as soon as possible & they can be done as early as 10 weeks.

Message edited 12/4/2008 4:27:46 PM.

Posted 12/4/08 4:10 PM
 

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Re: CVS? Amnio? Both? Neither?

I had an Amnio done.

DH and I originally were not going to have one done no matter what after all we went through to get pregnant and prior losses.

However, there were too many "markers" pointing towards our baby having Downs Syndrome that I knew I couldn't go through the rest of the pregnancy not knowing for sure. We already knew we would not terminate the pregnancy, but did it for 2 reasons:

1. For our own peace of mind
2. Just in case the baby was a Downs baby, I wanted to be prepared when she was born by doing all the research I could and finding all the best Drs. for her prior to her arrival.

Posted 12/4/08 4:14 PM
 

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Re: CVS? Amnio? Both? Neither?

I had an amnio. Both DH and I were older than 35 for our 1st child.

I did not have an ultrascreen. The ultrascreen is NOT accurate. It is an indicator of "what" could be. There are a few false positive which scare most people and they have an amnio to confirm.

There was no reason to do any other test since I was having an amnio. Which is accurate.

While there is a risk, the risk are MUCH lower than people think.

Posted 12/4/08 4:15 PM
 

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Re: CVS? Amnio? Both? Neither?

I didn't have any of those tests done.

Posted 12/4/08 4:26 PM
 

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Re: CVS? Amnio? Both? Neither?

Posted by Dani922

I didn't have any of those tests done.



Me, neither

Posted 12/4/08 4:28 PM
 

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Re: CVS? Amnio? Both? Neither?

Posted by Blissful

We did none of the above and none of the other statistical "marking tests" such as the AFP or neuchal translucensy test.

Our decision was based off the fact that we would not want to take the risks associated with CVS and Amnio when we would never abort the baby. Also, I didn't want to deal with "false positives" from the other exams and worry the rest of my pregnancy because I would never get teh CVS or amnio....

Its a personal decision that needs to be made with your partner...... Everyone chooses what is right for them and their baby!

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this was exactly my and dh's reasoning. we'd accept our baby no matter what and a lot of the earlier tests they're really inaccurate so i don't see the point in them.

Posted 12/4/08 5:01 PM
 

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Re: CVS? Amnio? Both? Neither?

I didn't need to have either.

Posted 12/4/08 5:02 PM
 

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Re: CVS? Amnio? Both? Neither?

I had an amnio at 36 1/2 weeks. I hadn't planned on having any of those diagnostic tests, but my pain was so severe due to a back injury that we wanted to see if it was possible to deliver our Chat Icon early.

Posted 12/4/08 5:16 PM
 

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Re: CVS? Amnio? Both? Neither?

Posted by pandaworm

Posted by Blissful

We did none of the above and none of the other statistical "marking tests" such as the AFP or neuchal translucensy test.

Our decision was based off the fact that we would not want to take the risks associated with CVS and Amnio when we would never abort the baby. Also, I didn't want to deal with "false positives" from the other exams and worry the rest of my pregnancy because I would never get teh CVS or amnio....

Its a personal decision that needs to be made with your partner...... Everyone chooses what is right for them and their baby!

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this was exactly my and dh's reasoning. we'd accept our baby no matter what and a lot of the earlier tests they're really inaccurate so i don't see the point in them.



Same here!!

Posted 12/4/08 8:06 PM
 

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Re: CVS? Amnio? Both? Neither?

The ultascreen is actually very accurate. It's the AFP alone that isn't. To answer your question, I did have a CVS at 13 weeks for 2 reasons. I had two previous m/c. After the 2nd one I felt strongly about having a CVS for any future pregnancies. Then my doctor convinced me to first see what my ultrascreen reults were before making my decision. THe results gave me a slightly increased risk for DS. The utlrascreen, even though is considered a reliable test, is only a risk assessment it is not diagnostic. I really needed to know a definitive answer. So I opted for the CVS and it was a breeze. I'm soooo glad I did it. It gave me reassurance early on and the bonus was I found out really early I was having a Chat Icon . The only benefit to waiting for an amnio is that the CVS does not detect neural tube defects and the amnio does.

Posted 12/4/08 8:41 PM
 

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Posted by juju

Posted by pandaworm

Posted by Blissful

We did none of the above and none of the other statistical "marking tests" such as the AFP or neuchal translucensy test.

Our decision was based off the fact that we would not want to take the risks associated with CVS and Amnio when we would never abort the baby. Also, I didn't want to deal with "false positives" from the other exams and worry the rest of my pregnancy because I would never get teh CVS or amnio....

Its a personal decision that needs to be made with your partner...... Everyone chooses what is right for them and their baby!

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this was exactly my and dh's reasoning. we'd accept our baby no matter what and a lot of the earlier tests they're really inaccurate so i don't see the point in them.



Same here!!



It's not about not accepting a baby. Sometimes it's about being prepared and knowing what you are facing.

Message edited 12/4/2008 8:51:36 PM.

Posted 12/4/08 8:50 PM
 

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Re: CVS? Amnio? Both? Neither?

Posted by smdl

Posted by juju

Posted by pandaworm

Posted by Blissful

We did none of the above and none of the other statistical "marking tests" such as the AFP or neuchal translucensy test.

Our decision was based off the fact that we would not want to take the risks associated with CVS and Amnio when we would never abort the baby. Also, I didn't want to deal with "false positives" from the other exams and worry the rest of my pregnancy because I would never get teh CVS or amnio....

Its a personal decision that needs to be made with your partner...... Everyone chooses what is right for them and their baby!

Chat Icon



this was exactly my and dh's reasoning. we'd accept our baby no matter what and a lot of the earlier tests they're really inaccurate so i don't see the point in them.



Same here!!



It's not about not accepting a baby. Sometimes it's about being prepared and knowing what you are facing.




But for those of us that would NEVER consider and amnio having a test such as the AFP or neuchal translucency and having a false positive would just lead to months of worry... KWIM???


If you are someone who would have an amnio then you would get answers right away. Also, amnios are never 100% accurate..... You really never knwo until the baby is born.....

Its all a personal decision, what is right for you may not be right for me vice versa.....

Posted 12/4/08 9:00 PM
 

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Re: CVS? Amnio? Both? Neither?

I had neither; though I just turned 35 and so will be 35 when DS is born - Based on my ultrascreen results we chose not to do any further testing other than bloodwork (AFP)

Posted 12/4/08 9:09 PM
 

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Re: CVS? Amnio? Both? Neither?

Posted by snowflake08

I had neither; though I just turned 35 and so will be 35 when DS is born - Based on my ultrascreen results we chose not to do any further testing other than bloodwork (AFP)

Same here. Nothing warranted further invasive testing.

Posted 12/5/08 1:03 AM
 

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Re: CVS? Amnio? Both? Neither?

What is a CVS?

Posted 12/5/08 8:58 AM
 

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Posted by smdl

Posted by juju

Posted by pandaworm

Posted by Blissful

We did none of the above and none of the other statistical "marking tests" such as the AFP or neuchal translucensy test.

Our decision was based off the fact that we would not want to take the risks associated with CVS and Amnio when we would never abort the baby. Also, I didn't want to deal with "false positives" from the other exams and worry the rest of my pregnancy because I would never get teh CVS or amnio....

Its a personal decision that needs to be made with your partner...... Everyone chooses what is right for them and their baby!

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this was exactly my and dh's reasoning. we'd accept our baby no matter what and a lot of the earlier tests they're really inaccurate so i don't see the point in them.



Same here!!



It's not about not accepting a baby. Sometimes it's about being prepared and knowing what you are facing.



I should of mentioned that it took me 4 years ttc when we finally got pregnant. So even the smallest risk of miscarriage frightened us, which is mainly why we chose not to do any testing esp. the amnio.

Posted 12/5/08 9:11 AM
 

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Re: CVS? Amnio? Both? Neither?

Posted by Blissful


Also, amnios are never 100% accurate..... You really never knwo until the baby is born.....




what, exactly, about an amnio would not be 100% accurate? Chat Icon

Posted 12/5/08 9:13 AM
 

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Re: CVS? Amnio? Both? Neither?

Posted by headoverheels

Posted by Blissful


Also, amnios are never 100% accurate..... You really never knwo until the baby is born.....




what, exactly, about an amnio would not be 100% accurate? Chat Icon



I'm curious about this too.

So, should I worry the next 9 weeks of my pregnancy that while the Amnio showed my daughter does not have Downs Syndrome, that there is still the possibilty she does?

Posted 12/5/08 9:41 AM
 

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Re: CVS? Amnio? Both? Neither?

Posted by headoverheels

Posted by Blissful


Also, amnios are never 100% accurate..... You really never knwo until the baby is born.....




what, exactly, about an amnio would not be 100% accurate? Chat Icon



According to the March of Dimes:

More than 95 percent of the high-risk women who have prenatal diagnosis receive reassuring news that their unborn babies do not have the disorders for which they are tested. However, no one prenatal test can guarantee the birth of a healthy baby, since only some birth defects can be ruled out before birth. Three to four out of every 100 babies have a birth defect.

Amniocentesis has an accuracy rate of between 99.4 and 100 percent in diagnosing chromosomal abnormalities.



In any lab test, there is a small chance of a lab error. One mother in The Tentative Pregnancy was told that lab errors occur about once in every thousand amnios. Of course, that's a good rate-----unless YOU happen to be the one the error is made with. Remember, on the basis of this lab report may hang a baby's life. Thus, lab errors, while rare, can be devastating.

Another possible source of error is if the lab cultures the mother's cells by mistake instead of the baby's. This would require a repeat amnio to be performed a few weeks later, which of course causes a lot of problems if the parents would consider abortion in case of a birth defect.

Another problem can include "pseudo-mosaicism". According to http://www.birth.com.au/class.asp?class=6602&page=6:

Occasionally the 'cultured' or 'grown' cells develop subtle changes from the original cells. This makes the chromosomes have a slightly different configuration and appearance, artificially creating different cells called 'pseudo-mosaics'. It is impossible to interpret these cells, making the results of the amniocentesis inconclusive and the amniocentesis would need to be repeated or a cordocentesis may be considered



I know of 2 people who had amnios and were told everything was fine and the babies were born with chromosomal abnormalities............

The test, while it has a very high percentage or being accurate is NOT 100% accurate.


ETA: For those who did have an amnio I don't post this to alarm you and make you worry about your results but make people aware that these tests are not 100% accurate. This is still science we are talking about and nothing is ever a 100% guarantee, there are many variables and factors that can "determine" results. These tests are "interpreted" by microbiologists/lab technicians and their "interpretations" are what are resulted so there is always the chance of human error.

If you do a little searching you can find medical journals and articles talking more about how amnio results are determined etc.

Message edited 12/5/2008 10:03:28 AM.

Posted 12/5/08 9:59 AM
 

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Re: CVS? Amnio? Both? Neither?

I didn't get the CVS or Amnio.

There are other less invasive recommended tests that screen for genetic abnormalities. Usually a CVS or Amnio are recommended if the other test results come back unfavorably. I believe they recommend the CVS or Amnio if you are over 35 yrs old as well.

Posted 12/5/08 10:20 AM
 

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Re: CVS? Amnio? Both? Neither?

I had neither and was over 35 when I got pregnant.

I did have an ultrascreen and the AFP and both had good results, so I opted not to do anything else because of the risk involved. If either of these tests showed possible defects, I might have considered an amnio, but I really didn't want one.

My reasoning was that I was having the baby either way and I didn't think knowing about anything ahead of time would help me prepare better for the baby - for me, I thought it would more likely cause so much worry that I wouldn't enjoy the rest of my pregnancy.

Luckily, I had a healthy baby.

Posted 12/5/08 10:24 AM
 

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Re: CVS? Amnio? Both? Neither?

Posted by Bridex100

I didn't get the CVS or Amnio.

There are other less invasive recommended tests that screen for genetic abnormalities. Usually a CVS or Amnio are recommended if the other test results come back unfavorably. I believe they recommend the CVS or Amnio if you are over 35 yrs old as well.



An Amnio is not a screening test like the Nuchal or the AFP.

I'm well over 35 and my Dr. never pushed the Amnio on me until my This was the first question I asked her when we went to my first OB appointment. I expressed our desire to NOT do an Amnio and she had no issue with that at all until my AFP/Quad Triple Screen and subsequent Level II came back showing an elevated risk for Downs.

Posted 12/5/08 10:24 AM
 
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