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Re: Didn't even move in yet, and my Mom got into an argument with our neighbor......
Posted by fabrichick
I live in a co-op and was a dog owner for many years...I think I would have been horrified if I saw anyone throwing poop in any bushes on the property - mine, the neighbors. their own bushes. Would not leave me with a warm fuzzy feeling about the new people moving in.
I don't know if I would have attacked in that manner but as an owner I would have been very territorial being that I was already living there and this is what I was seeing from my new neighbors.
I think we also have to keep in mind we have no idea what the exchange of words were that led to this woman's reaction.
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Re: Didn't even move in yet, and my Mom got into an argument with our neighbor......
Posted by kbeana24
ed: Ok I probably would not have "freaked out" but I would have been real mad
To me, that is a normal response and had the woman acted that way (i.e. annoyed, civil comment about how we don't do that, etc), I would say go make the peace.
But cursing, swearing, etc? Not acceptable forms of communication and certainly not justification for an apology.
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Re: Didn't even move in yet, and my Mom got into an argument with our neighbor......
Posted by MrsPJB2007
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i don't live in a condo, but honestly, if someone threw dog poop in my bushes, i would be livid and would probably start cursing as well if the person didn't pick it up and apologize.
just to clarify--she didn't throw it in the NEIGHBOR'S bushes--she tossed it in the bushes that are part of her daughter's condo. The neighbor just witnessed it and then went nuts.
If they tossed it in the neighbor's bushes, I think I would feel differently, but the mother of the OP didn't toss it in any other bushes but the one that are now part of her daughter's condo.
Yes, but I believe in a condo community, the outside of your unit, the lawn and the overall appearance are considered communal. Everyone has a say and a stake in the upkeep and uniform appearance of the community. That makes a difference to me with what happened. IMO it's not the same as if her mom threw dog poop into her own bushes in a private home.
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fabrichick
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Re: Didn't even move in yet, and my Mom got into an argument with our neighbor......
You know what they say...3 sides to every story.
I just meant more about the poop and how I would feel about new neighbors moving in and seeing someone throw the poop. Maybe the posters mom was planning on cleaning it up with a bag when she found one.
My building is not pet friendly.
They were fining people $100 for any dog sightings. There was a guy who had a small dog. I would constantly see him leaving with a moving blanket!!!
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Re: Didn't even move in yet, and my Mom got into an argument with our neighbor......
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Posted by kbeana24
ed: Ok I probably would not have "freaked out" but I would have been real mad
To me, that is a normal response and had the woman acted that way (i.e. annoyed, civil comment about how we don't do that, etc), I would say go make the peace.
But cursing, swearing, etc? Not acceptable forms of communication and certainly not justification for an apology.
ITA Unless that dog was pooping radioactive waste there was no need for the neighbor to speak to her that way.
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Re: Didn't even move in yet, and my Mom got into an argument with our neighbor......
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Posted by fabrichick
I live in a co-op and was a dog owner for many years...I think I would have been horrified if I saw anyone throwing poop in any bushes on the property - mine, the neighbors. their own bushes. Would not leave me with a warm fuzzy feeling about the new people moving in.
I don't know if I would have attacked in that manner but as an owner I would have been very territorial being that I was already living there and this is what I was seeing from my new neighbors.
I think we also have to keep in mind we have no idea what the exchange of words were that led to this woman's reaction.
The only person who used foul language was the neighbor. My mom did NOT curse at her at all, my MIL saw it all and told me the same thing.
I came out and saw the woman driving away yelling F THIS F THAT with her windows down and kids in the car. Real classy. To me, that is a hell of a lot more horrifying than dog shiiitt!
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Re: Didn't even move in yet, and my Mom got into an argument with our neighbor......
On an upbeat note...that was nice that they were there helping you in your new place!
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Re: Didn't even move in yet, and my Mom got into an argument with our neighbor......
Posted by CrankyPants
I do not associate with people who have crazy outbursts, .
guess no more GTG's for us   
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Re: Didn't even move in yet, and my Mom got into an argument with our neighbor......
Posted by fabrichick
On an upbeat note...that was nice that they were there helping you in your new place!
yeah..and afterwards...everyone was "pooped"!!!!
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PrincessP
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Re: Didn't even move in yet, and my Mom got into an argument with our neighbor......
Sounds like you didnt have any clue of what your moms exchange of words with this lady were either. Maybe she did react like "OMG what did you just do...thats disgusting" but your mom could have started yelling back from there. I dont for a second think this woman was wrong to be like "***". I would be enraged if your mom then screamed back. This is actually how I see it played out. I agree with the fact that I would be pizzed if I heard someone attacking my mom. SERIOUSLY THOUGH...she has kids...this is where she lives...what if her kids picked this dog sh#t up...I would have been that lady upset with your mom...I know I would...
I also suggest that you and dh appologize before you live an awful neighborly war.
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Re: Didn't even move in yet, and my Mom got into an argument with our neighbor......
Posted by PrincessP
Sounds like you didnt have any clue of what your moms exchange of words with this lady were either. Maybe she did react like "OMG what did you just do...thats disgusting" but your mom could have started yelling back from there. I dont for a second think this woman was wrong to be like "***". I would be enraged if your mom then screamed back. This is actually how I see it played out. I agree with the fact that I would be pizzed if I heard someone attacking my mom. SERIOUSLY THOUGH...she has kids...this is where she lives...what if her kids picked this dog sh#t up...I would have been that lady upset with your mom...I know I would...
I also suggest that you and dh appologize before you live an awful neighborly war.
Trust me. I have a clue...and as I stated previously.......mu mother didn't yell back. My MIL, who is very prim and proper and HATES dog poop..was SHOCKED at the neighbo'rs behavior.
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Re: Didn't even move in yet, and my Mom got into an argument with our neighbor......
Posted by Sandy55
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I think we also have to keep in mind we have no idea what the exchange of words were that led to this woman's reaction.
The only person who used foul language was the neighbor. My mom did NOT curse at her at all, my MIL saw it all and told me the same thing.
I came out and saw the woman driving away yelling F THIS F THAT with her windows down and kids in the car. Real classy. To me, that is a hell of a lot more horrifying than dog shiiitt!
I guess that is where we disagree. And I wasn't implying your mom did curse. A curse is just a word. A curse won't kill anyone, but diseases from dog poop, rodents, etc, can actually harm/kill someone. And I really don't think we should start bringing the topic of classy up re a thread that was started re throwing dog poop...seriously.
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Re: Didn't even move in yet, and my Mom got into an argument with our neighbor......
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Sounds like you didnt have any clue of what your moms exchange of words with this lady were either. Maybe she did react like "OMG what did you just do...thats disgusting" but your mom could have started yelling back from there. I dont for a second think this woman was wrong to be like "***". I would be enraged if your mom then screamed back. This is actually how I see it played out. I agree with the fact that I would be pizzed if I heard someone attacking my mom. SERIOUSLY THOUGH...she has kids...this is where she lives...what if her kids picked this dog sh#t up...I would have been that lady upset with your mom...I know I would...
I also suggest that you and dh appologize before you live an awful neighborly war.
Trust me. I have a clue...and as I stated previously.......mu mother didn't yell back. My MIL, who is very prim and proper and HATES dog poop..was SHOCKED at the neighbo'rs behavior.
"I didn't see what happened but apparently my Mom and the neighbor exchanged words. When I came outside the woman was driving away dropping f-bombs with the windows open and her kids in the car.
She then sarcastically screamed "Welcome to the neighborhood!""
According to you....you didnt have a clue
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Re: Didn't even move in yet, and my Mom got into an argument with our neighbor......
exceptions can be made as long as the crazy outbursts are not aimed at me or my mom
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Re: Didn't even move in yet, and my Mom got into an argument with our neighbor......
Posted by CrankyPants
exceptions can be made as long as the crazy outbursts are not aimed at me or my mom
does your mom have a "poop tossing" habit by chance. If not, we should be fine
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Re: Didn't even move in yet, and my Mom got into an argument with our neighbor......
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I think we also have to keep in mind we have no idea what the exchange of words were that led to this woman's reaction.
The only person who used foul language was the neighbor. My mom did NOT curse at her at all, my MIL saw it all and told me the same thing.
I came out and saw the woman driving away yelling F THIS F THAT with her windows down and kids in the car. Real classy. To me, that is a hell of a lot more horrifying than dog shiiitt!
I guess that is where we disagree. And I wasn't implying your mom did curse. A curse is just a word. A curse won't kill anyone, but diseases from dog poop, rodents, etc, can actually harm/kill someone. And I really don't think we should start bringing the topic of classy up re a thread that was started re throwing dog poop...seriously.
Unless the kids were eating the dog poop for breakfast lunch and dinner I don't think they will die that is a bit extreme. I haven't died yet from the bird poop on my car, the geese poop in my yard, the poop my neighbor uses in mulch, the fertilizer all over my lawn, the bug spray the town sprays etc etc.... Seriously though if you're scared your kid will pick it up then you are not watching them bc if they are young enough to pick up poop they shouldn't be outside alone. 
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Re: Didn't even move in yet, and my Mom got into an argument with our neighbor......
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I think we also have to keep in mind we have no idea what the exchange of words were that led to this woman's reaction.
The only person who used foul language was the neighbor. My mom did NOT curse at her at all, my MIL saw it all and told me the same thing.
I came out and saw the woman driving away yelling F THIS F THAT with her windows down and kids in the car. Real classy. To me, that is a hell of a lot more horrifying than dog shiiitt!
I guess that is where we disagree. And I wasn't implying your mom did curse. A curse is just a word. A curse won't kill anyone, but diseases from dog poop, rodents, etc, can actually harm/kill someone. And I really don't think we should start bringing the topic of classy up re a thread that was started re throwing dog poop...seriously.
Unless the kids were eating the dog poop for breakfast lunch and dinner I don't think they will die that is a bit extreme. I haven't died yet from the bird poop on my car, the geese poop in my yard, the poop my neighbore uses in mulch, the fertilizer all over my lawn, the bug spray the town sprays etc etc.... Seriously though if you're scared your kid will pick it up then you are not watching them bc if they are old enough to pick up poop they shouldn't be outside alone.
You have me confused with another poster who said that, if that is directed towards me. I am not scared my kid will pick it up, I didn't say that.
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Re: Didn't even move in yet, and my Mom got into an argument with our neighbor......
Posted by Goobster
I guess that is where we disagree. And I wasn't implying your mom did curse. A curse is just a word. A curse won't kill anyone, but diseases from dog poop, rodents, etc, can actually harm/kill someone. And I really don't think we should start bringing the topic of classy up re a thread that was started re throwing dog poop...seriously.
Is this really necessary? You are obviously trying to say that the OP's mom was being "unclassy" by tossing the dog poop. Seriously the lady made a MISTAKE and probably figured it would be okay as a temporary solution until they came back later! Yet the nasty neighbor with her foul language is okay?
Yeah IMO a woman dropping f-bombs like crazy in front of her kids is a real KLASS ACT compared to the OP's mom just making a simple mistake.
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Re: Didn't even move in yet, and my Mom got into an argument with our neighbor......
Posted by Goobster
You have me confused with another poster who said that, if that is directed towards me. I am not scared my kid will pick it up, I didn't say that.
When you said the poop could kill someone I imagined they would have to touch it. Sometimes the smell alone is bad (dutch oven anyone) but I doubt that will kill you.
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Re: Didn't even move in yet, and my Mom got into an argument with our neighbor......
Posted by Goobster
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Posted by Goobster
I think we also have to keep in mind we have no idea what the exchange of words were that led to this woman's reaction.
The only person who used foul language was the neighbor. My mom did NOT curse at her at all, my MIL saw it all and told me the same thing.
I came out and saw the woman driving away yelling F THIS F THAT with her windows down and kids in the car. Real classy. To me, that is a hell of a lot more horrifying than dog shiiitt!
I guess that is where we disagree. And I wasn't implying your mom did curse. A curse is just a word. A curse won't kill anyone, but diseases from dog poop, rodents, etc, can actually harm/kill someone. And I really don't think we should start bringing the topic of classy up re a thread that was started re throwing dog poop...seriously.
dude..seriously..not necessary for you to hint that my MOTHER is unclassy.
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Re: Didn't even move in yet, and my Mom got into an argument with our neighbor......
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Even if she did overreact, that doesn't negate the fact that what the OP's mother did was wrong... so honestly I still think that the OP and her husband owe the neighbor (and the other neighbor who saw) an apology and an "it won't happen again."
My only issue is that they shouldn't have to "apologize" to the neighbor -- they didn't do it--it was her mom that did. It was innocent and not something that was intended, so why do they have to go to the neighbor who cursed and disrespected her mother with their tail between their legs and say "I'm sorry"? I just don't agree that an apology is necessary, if anything that crotchety lady who was overreacted should apolgoize.
Do I think they should go over there and say "Look lets start over" -- sure! But they shouldn't have to apolgize IMO cause like I said, I'm sure the OP's mother figured since it was her daughter's bushes, they could come back and clean it later. The neighbor going nuts was uncalled for, its all about HOW you talk to people. I would NEVER apologize to someone who talked to a member of my family like that, because it just was unnecessary, plain and simple.
I'm afraid on this issue, we'll have to agree to disagree cause it just makes no sense to me that they should say sorry for something they didn't do.
That's fine. I happen disagree... and I fail to see where I indicated they had to go with their tails between their legs. If my parents put dog poop in my neighbor's bushes, I'd be mortified, even if the neighbor's overreacted. And yes, I would go over and apologize for the fact that it happened. Obviously I didn't do it, and I'm sure the neighbor knows that, but I would feel awful that it happened and would apologize. I don't see that as a big deal. I'm not saying I'd be begging for forgiveness, but I do think it's appropriate to talk to the neighbor and clear the air.
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Re: Didn't even move in yet, and my Mom got into an argument with our neighbor......
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legs. If my parents put dog poop in my neighbor's bushes, I'd be mortified, even if the neighbor's overreacted.
But again--it was NOT the neighbor's bushes. It was the OP's bushes --that is why I think the neighbor's reaction was too much and therefore an apology is unnecessary. If it was thrown at the neighbor's bushes--then yes, by all means I would say "Omg I'm so sorry my mom did that!" But it was not the neighbor's bushes.
And I know you didn't say that they are going with their tail between their legs--but IMO that's how it feels if they have to be the ones to apologize, and if it was me that is how I'd feel about it, since its like we are the ones who have to say it, yet I'm sure that woman won't feel like she needs to apologize for her behavior at all.
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Re: Didn't even move in yet, and my Mom got into an argument with our neighbor......
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Even if she did overreact, that doesn't negate the fact that what the OP's mother did was wrong... so honestly I still think that the OP and her husband owe the neighbor (and the other neighbor who saw) an apology and an "it won't happen again."
My only issue is that they shouldn't have to "apologize" to the neighbor -- they didn't do it--it was her mom that did. It was innocent and not something that was intended, so why do they have to go to the neighbor who cursed and disrespected her mother with their tail between their legs and say "I'm sorry"? I just don't agree that an apology is necessary, if anything that crotchety lady who was overreacted should apolgoize.
Do I think they should go over there and say "Look lets start over" -- sure! But they shouldn't have to apolgize IMO cause like I said, I'm sure the OP's mother figured since it was her daughter's bushes, they could come back and clean it later. The neighbor going nuts was uncalled for, its all about HOW you talk to people. I would NEVER apologize to someone who talked to a member of my family like that, because it just was unnecessary, plain and simple.
I'm afraid on this issue, we'll have to agree to disagree cause it just makes no sense to me that they should say sorry for something they didn't do.
That's fine. I happen disagree... and I fail to see where I indicated they had to go with their tails between their legs. If my parents put dog poop in my neighbor's bushes, I'd be mortified, even if the neighbor's overreacted. And yes, I would go over and apologize for the fact that it happened. Obviously I didn't do it, and I'm sure the neighbor knows that, but I would feel awful that it happened and would apologize. I don't see that as a big deal. I'm not saying I'd be begging for forgiveness, but I do think it's appropriate to talk to the neighbor and clear the air.
I agree with you.
Seriously, thats the bottom line to it all.
I see alot of mom defending in a case where she is CLEARLY wrong. Go appologize bc you want peace.
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Re: Didn't even move in yet, and my Mom got into an argument with our neighbor......
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but she doesn't even know if the woman touched the baby.....
oh wait...
I got confused.
I just snorted
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Re: Didn't even move in yet, and my Mom got into an argument with our neighbor......
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Even if she did overreact, that doesn't negate the fact that what the OP's mother did was wrong... so honestly I still think that the OP and her husband owe the neighbor (and the other neighbor who saw) an apology and an "it won't happen again."
My only issue is that they shouldn't have to "apologize" to the neighbor -- they didn't do it--it was her mom that did. It was innocent and not something that was intended, so why do they have to go to the neighbor who cursed and disrespected her mother with their tail between their legs and say "I'm sorry"? I just don't agree that an apology is necessary, if anything that crotchety lady who was overreacted should apolgoize.
Do I think they should go over there and say "Look lets start over" -- sure! But they shouldn't have to apolgize IMO cause like I said, I'm sure the OP's mother figured since it was her daughter's bushes, they could come back and clean it later. The neighbor going nuts was uncalled for, its all about HOW you talk to people. I would NEVER apologize to someone who talked to a member of my family like that, because it just was unnecessary, plain and simple.
I'm afraid on this issue, we'll have to agree to disagree cause it just makes no sense to me that they should say sorry for something they didn't do.
That's fine. I happen disagree... and I fail to see where I indicated they had to go with their tails between their legs. If my parents put dog poop in my neighbor's bushes, I'd be mortified, even if the neighbor's overreacted. And yes, I would go over and apologize for the fact that it happened. Obviously I didn't do it, and I'm sure the neighbor knows that, but I would feel awful that it happened and would apologize. I don't see that as a big deal. I'm not saying I'd be begging for forgiveness, but I do think it's appropriate to talk to the neighbor and clear the air.
I agree the air definitely should be cleared. ..my husband called me a little while ago and he said he's on the way to the condo, and if he sees the neighbor, he's going to talk to her and reintroduce himself and talk about what happened. I'm hoping the woman will be a little more calm. My husband does wear a lot of toxic hair gel.
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