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HollaGirl
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Re: Groom Killed on Wedding Day
Posted by Beth1210
Posted by HollaGirl
Here is another story about a cop who was hit by a car.
Cop hit
The officer, Francis Byrne, of the First Squad, was not injured.
and that was a pathfinder- this guy had a much smaller car- an alitma
Jake hit by a car doing 20 mph when he was a bouncer- he jumped back up and continued to chase him
So because he wasn't killed, it's ok, right?
And who is talking about Jake here?
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Moosey911
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Re: Groom Killed on Wedding Day
OK....I am so done with this subject...obviously LI is filled with many liberal bleeding hearts and I won't win b/c ya'll just continue to turn my words around. Try reading ALL of my posts and then MAYBE you'll see my point.
I'm off to attempt to enjoy the rest of my birthday. Good luck with THIS debate everybody.
Ritse: Yes, I still believe your original post showed ignorance.....and I do apologize for the jacka$$ comment. I was just very offended hearing yet another person scream NYPD is a bunch of racist profilers. But, I do still believe you are quite ignorant (as are MANY others) to what we see and go through on a daily basis. And I still stand by the fact that yes...the criminals that I arrest are savages....NOT the people in my area....I have met many good, hardworking people....JUST the career criminals that I deal with regularly.
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| Posted 11/27/06 4:29 PM |
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HollaGirl
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Re: Groom Killed on Wedding Day
Posted by Moosey911
OK....I am so done with this subject...obviously LI is filled with many liberal bleeding hearts and I won't win b/c ya'll just continue to turn my words around. Try reading ALL of my posts and then MAYBE you'll see my point.
I'm off to attempt to enjoy the rest of my birthday. Good luck with THIS debate everybody.
Ritse: Yes, I still believe your original post showed ignorance.....and I do apologize for the jacka$$ comment. I was just very offended hearing yet another person scream NYPD is a bunch of racist profilers. But, I do still believe you are quite ignorant (as are MANY others) to what we see and go through on a daily basis. And I still stand by the fact that yes...the criminals that I arrest are savages....NOT the people in my area....I have met many good, hardworking people....JUST the career criminals that I deal with regularly.
Moosey, I still see where you are coming from. 
Happy Birthday
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| Posted 11/27/06 4:31 PM |
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lululu
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Re: Groom Killed on Wedding Day
Posted by Moosey911
OK....I am so done with this subject...obviously LI is filled with many liberal bleeding hearts and I won't win b/c ya'll just continue to turn my words around. Try reading ALL of my posts and then MAYBE you'll see my point.
I'm off to attempt to enjoy the rest of my birthday. Good luck with THIS debate everybody.
Ritse: Yes, I still believe your original post showed ignorance.....and I do apologize for the jacka$$ comment. I was just very offended hearing yet another person scream NYPD is a bunch of racist profilers. But, I do still believe you are quite ignorant (as are MANY others) to what we see and go through on a daily basis. And I still stand by the fact that yes...the criminals that I arrest are savages....NOT the people in my area....I have met many good, hardworking people....JUST the career criminals that I deal with regularly.
Happy Birthday - and thank you for all of your service making the city a safer place for all of us.
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| Posted 11/27/06 4:31 PM |
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Moosey911
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Re: Groom Killed on Wedding Day
Oh...and here are a few others where a car was used as deadly physical force against us....but of course THOSE didn't make front page news.....god da&n media!
PINNED BY SUV, COP KILLS SUSPECT. 'The shooting appears justified,' says a police spokesman
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New York Daily News - New York, N.Y.
Author: JOTHAM SEDERSTROM and ROBERT F. MOORE DAILY NEWS WRITERS With Ernie Naspretto and Mike Jaccarino
Date: Nov 12, 2006
Start Page: 8
Section: NEWS
Text Word Count: 368
Abstract (Document Summary)
After several collisions and near-collisions, the driver, Katrell Butler, 28, pulled over near Troy Ave. in E. Flatbush, cops said. Two plainclothes detectives assigned to the 73rd Precinct got out of an unmarked Chevrolet Impala to question him.
Butler allegedly lurched his vehicle backward, pinning an unidentified male cop between the Montero and a parked car. The officer whipped out his service weapon and fired at least five times, witnesses said, killing Butler and wounding an unidentified passenger.
GARY HE Vehicles sit askew on Brooklyn street where cop shot and killed a driver after the officer was pinned between cars. Below, cop checks a gun at the scene. ANTHONY DELMUNDO
ANOTHER OFFICER RAMMED BY CAR
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New York Daily News - New York, N.Y.
Author: ROBERT F. MOORE DAILY NEWS POLICE BUREAU
Date: Oct 29, 2006
Start Page: 6
Section: NEWS
Text Word Count: 218
Abstract (Document Summary)
A suspected car thief rammed a stolen 2003 Lexus into Bronx cop Fannie Ortiz early Friday, breaking both her legs. Ortiz was in stable condition yesterday at Jacobi Medical Center.
Brooklyn Sgt. James Rector was wounded Thursday night during a gun battle in Fort Greene with 17-year-old Eric Hines. Despite being wounded twice, Rector shot and killed Hines, who cops say had been threatening to execute another man.
SECOND HERO COP HIT IN 9 HRS. Officer struck by car in armed bandit bust
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New York Daily News - New York, N.Y.
Author: VERONIKA BELENKAYA, AUSTIN FENNER AND ALISON GENDAR With Greg Wilson, Adam Lisberg, Rich Schapiro and Jess Wisloski
Date: Oct 28, 2006
Start Page: 7
Section: NEWS
Text Word Count: 1076
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[email protected]: Within nine hours, two NYPD cops were hurt while facing armed thugs. INCIDENT NO. 1THE HEROSgt. [James Rector]7:30 p.m. Thursday - Sgt. James Rector leaves a police recruiting center in Fort Greene, Brooklyn, and hears gunfire. At 14 Auburn Place, he finds a man begging for his life as [Eric Hines], 17, allegedly points a gun at him. Rector identifies himself but Hines shoots him. Despite being wounded in his left ankle and buttocks, Rector manages to fire back, killing Hines.INCIDENT NO. 2THE HERO Officer Fannie OrtizTHE SUSPECT Rafael Then4 a.m. yesterday - About 81/2 hours after Sgt. James Rector is wounded, three cops stake out a stolen 2003 Lexus at Clay Ave. and E. 173rd St. in the Bronx. The suspects, a man and woman, arrive and get into the car. The cops surround the car but the driver slams the Lexus into reverse, pinning Officer [Fannie Ortiz] against a pole, breaking both of her legs.Sgt. [Edward Warren] fires five rounds into the car, wounding the driver, Rafael Then. He and his passenger are arrested.
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| Posted 11/27/06 4:33 PM |
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Beth
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Re: Groom Killed on Wedding Day
So because he wasn't killed, it's ok, right?
no it's not ok- but give me a break- he doesn't desserve to be shot and killed either
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| Posted 11/27/06 4:34 PM |
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bri1980
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Re: Groom Killed on Wedding Day
Posted by Beth1210
So because he wasn't killed, it's ok, right?
no it's not ok- but give me a break- he doesn't desserve to be shot and killed either
After coming at someone with a car??? How does he not deserve it?
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| Posted 11/27/06 4:35 PM |
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HollaGirl
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Re: Groom Killed on Wedding Day
Posted by Beth1210
So because he wasn't killed, it's ok, right?
no it's not ok- but give me a break- he doesn't desserve to be shot and killed either
Then I could never be a cop, because if some a$$hole tried to run me over, I would shoot them in their head.
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| Posted 11/27/06 4:35 PM |
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Moosey911
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Re: Groom Killed on Wedding Day
Posted by HollaGirl
Posted by Beth1210
So because he wasn't killed, it's ok, right?
no it's not ok- but give me a break- he doesn't desserve to be shot and killed either
Then I could never be a cop, because if some a$$hole tried to run me over, I would shoot them in their head.
you and me both....ok, now I'm really leaving. Bye, ya'll. Thanks for the b'day wishes.
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| Posted 11/27/06 4:36 PM |
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bri1980
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Re: Groom Killed on Wedding Day
Posted by HollaGirl
Posted by Beth1210
So because he wasn't killed, it's ok, right?
no it's not ok- but give me a break- he doesn't desserve to be shot and killed either
Then I could never be a cop, because if some a$$hole tried to run me over, I would shoot them in their head.
Agreed.
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Beth
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Re: Groom Killed on Wedding Day
Posted by bri1980
Posted by Beth1210
So because he wasn't killed, it's ok, right?
no it's not ok- but give me a break- he doesn't desserve to be shot and killed either
After coming at someone with a car??? How does he not deserve it?
b/c we don't know if they knew they were cops- for all we know they thought they were being robbed-
I will never see how a minor injury means it's ok to kill someone
Message edited 11/27/2006 4:37:33 PM.
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bri1980
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Re: Groom Killed on Wedding Day
Posted by Beth1210
Posted by bri1980
Posted by Beth1210
So because he wasn't killed, it's ok, right?
no it's not ok- but give me a break- he doesn't desserve to be shot and killed either
After coming at someone with a car??? How does he not deserve it?
b/c we don't know if they knew they were cops- for all we know they thought they were being robbed-
I will never see how a minor injury means it's ok to kill someone
Please.....
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HollaGirl
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Re: Groom Killed on Wedding Day
Posted by Beth1210
Posted by bri1980
Posted by Beth1210
So because he wasn't killed, it's ok, right?
no it's not ok- but give me a break- he doesn't desserve to be shot and killed either
After coming at someone with a car??? How does he not deserve it?
b/c we don't know if they knew they were cops- for all we know they thought they were being robbed-
I will never see how a minor injury means it's to kill someone
I am amazed. 2 weeks ago your husband wanted to kill someone because they took his Mustang for a joy ride, and you cant understand why an officer would open fire on someone driving a car at them.
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| Posted 11/27/06 4:38 PM |
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Moosey911
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Re: Groom Killed on Wedding Day
Posted by Beth1210
Posted by bri1980
Posted by Beth1210
So because he wasn't killed, it's ok, right?
no it's not ok- but give me a break- he doesn't desserve to be shot and killed either
After coming at someone with a car??? How does he not deserve it?
b/c we don't know if they knew they were cops- for all we know they thought they were being robbed-
I will never see how a minor injury means it's to kill someone
Um....ok, if I shoot you, but I miss and hit your pinky finger....are you going to tell me or any other police that I wasn't trying to kill you? I really just wanted to mangle your pinky finger....????? Your philosophy makes no sense.....????
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paulandles912
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Re: Groom Killed on Wedding Day
just my opinion, but it seems in cases like this the general public takes for granted the daily sacrifices the police make for our safety and that they tend to canonize the victims. since all the facts aren't out yet, it doesn't seem to make sense for lay people to speculate as to what was excessive and how/why the police should have handled the situation. i also think that if the victim who died wasn't about to get married it wouldn't pull on the heartstrings of so many people.
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Beth
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Re: Groom Killed on Wedding Day
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I am amazed. 2 weeks ago your husband wanted to kill someone because they took his Mustang for a joy ride, and you cant understand why an officer would open fire on someone driving a car at them.
are you kidding? I can understand why they would- but 50 bullets and then stopping to reload when no one has shot back- seems excessive
and what is an innocent bystand was shot by a stray bullet? then would still be ok?
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Re: Groom Killed on Wedding Day
Posted by Moosey911
Posted by Beth1210
b/c we don't know if they knew they were cops- for all we know they thought they were being robbed-
I will never see how a minor injury means it's to kill someone
Um....ok, if I shoot you, but I miss and hit your pinky finger....are you going to tell me or any other police that I wasn't trying to kill you? I really just wanted to mangle your pinky finger....????? Your philosophy makes no sense.....????
 sorry for laughing...but the pinky comparison is great!!! 
Happy B-Day Moosey and Stay Safe!!! 
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MrsPJB2007
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Re: Groom Killed on Wedding Day
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Message edited 8/7/2011 11:28:56 PM.
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lululu
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Re: Groom Killed on Wedding Day
Posted by Beth1210
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I am amazed. 2 weeks ago your husband wanted to kill someone because they took his Mustang for a joy ride, and you cant understand why an officer would open fire on someone driving a car at them.
are you kidding? I can understand why they would- but 50 bullets and then stopping to reload when no one has shot back- seems excessive
and what is an innocent bystand was shot by a stray bullet? then would still be ok?
Go back and read the whole post and see how quickly you can unload your weapon and fire that many shots! This is the same thing with the 41 shots. Arent people learning how quickly the shots come off or do you just not want to believe it. this all happened in LESS THAN A MINUTE!!!
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Gertyrae
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Re: Groom Killed on Wedding Day
Moosey - I have to tell you three things
1-I agree with you 100% and believe that most people not involved in law enforcement have no idea how things work
2-The media sux!!!!
3-Happy Birthday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| Posted 11/27/06 4:46 PM |
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Re: Groom Killed on Wedding Day
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2-The media sux!!!!
You got that right...B.H.M.C.!!!! 
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Smileyd17
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Re: Groom Killed on Wedding Day
Posted by HollaGirl
Then I could never be a cop, because if some a$$hole tried to run me over, I would shoot them in their head.
Same for me!!!
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Posted by Gertyrae
Moosey - I have to tell you three things
1-I agree with you 100% and believe that most people not involved in law enforcement have no idea how things work
2-The media sux!!!!
TOTALLY AGREE!!!!
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LuvMyDH
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Re: Groom Killed on Wedding Day
I tried not to get involved in this thread, but I find it hard not to... I knew the groom and got very emotional just by reading all of the prvious posts... and its sad to see how this has whole thread has turned into something that it shouldnt have.
As was stated, we all do not know the facts and can not pass judgement. But I don't care what wnyone says 50 shots is EXCESSIVE...
I'll probably just end up rambling on this post but, this whole issue has been turned into the NYPD against the world and it shouldn't be.
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| Posted 11/27/06 4:49 PM |
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Ritse
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Re: Groom Killed on Wedding Day
But, I do still believe you are quite ignorant (as are MANY others) to what we see and go through on a daily basis.
I am not disputing the hardships and danger of your job but please do not discredit my experiences and that of many in black community as well. To speak like there aren't any racist or ignorant cops out there is very naive. The cop who sodomized Abner Louimer is one of them.
You wrote in anger so did I, who are you to call me names?
I'm done as well. Enjoy your birthday.
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| Posted 11/27/06 4:53 PM |
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Hi-Fi55
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Re: Groom Killed on Wedding Day
Posted by Beth1210
Posted by bri1980
Posted by Beth1210
So because he wasn't killed, it's ok, right?
no it's not ok- but give me a break- he doesn't desserve to be shot and killed either
After coming at someone with a car??? How does he not deserve it?
b/c we don't know if they knew they were cops- for all we know they thought they were being robbed-
I will never see how a minor injury means it's ok to kill someone
When a cops life is at danger or at risk (like the fact that a car is coming at them, which is not a minor injury, especially when it repeatedly is coming at them) they have every right to make the determination to shoot. They can't sit and ponder for the next ten minutes about what they want to do. Everything happens in a flash. This all took place in less than a minute. 50 bullets - is that a lot. I'm sorry but no. It's takes 2 seconds to load another cartridge. Not 5 minutes, not 2, not even 1.
And for everyone that is crying race. Boo hoo, get over it. I'm sick of everyone always playing the race card. Guess what the cops were a mixed bag of nuts, so lets stop. People are people. Maybe if Al Sharpton stopped sticking his nose in crap like this, the while black/white/hispanic thing wouldn't always rear it's ugly head.
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