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Xelindrya
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Re: Healthcare Reform Passes the House
Posted by HeathKernandez
Posted by Xelindrya
I see a lot here who are "ok with it" to pay for this program. Really?
Wow.
I'm sorry.
don't be sorry. I absolutely love being empathic towards those less fortunate than me.
Not what I meant 
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Re: Healthcare Reform Passes the House
Posted by Xelindrya
Posted by HeathKernandez
Posted by Xelindrya
I see a lot here who are "ok with it" to pay for this program. Really?
Wow.
I'm sorry.
don't be sorry. I absolutely love being empathic towards those less fortunate than me.
Not what I meant
well, maybe you should choose your words better because that is what the message sounded like to me [shrug]
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ave1024
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Re: Healthcare Reform Passes the House
2012 can't get here soon enough.
2010 for Patterson.
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Re: Healthcare Reform Passes the House
Posted by prncsslehcar
I'm probably in the extreme minority here, but as someone who has incredible health insurance, I can honestly say that my husband and I both feel that if we have to pay more so that other people can also have health insurance, then we are ok with it. Sometimes it's for the greater good. Yes my insurance might change, yes the price might go up, but I'm ok with it because when it comes down to it, tomorrow, my husband could be out of a job and we'd be screwed and it could happen to anyone else, too.
That's just my opinion, and I just feel as someone who has wanted healthcare reform, I realistically understand that it will eventually end up costing me more. And I really am ok with that.
I agree with you and I am glad that others agreed with you too. I hear people complaining about this country going to he** because of this but I think the real danger is that too many people in this country do not give a *#&^ about their fellow Americans. People only care about themselves. You can care about your family while also being concerned for others. We are LUCKY to live in this country despite the current challenges. How many people live in countries where they don't have indoor plumbing? Where they are surrounded by disease and poverty and true tryannical governments? Compared to others in the world, we have very little to b*tch about.
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Re: Healthcare Reform Passes the House
Posted by ave1024
2012 can't get here soon enough.
2010 for Patterson.
shame on you! Don't you know that's the end of the world according to Mayan calendar?
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| Posted 11/9/09 11:33 AM |
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Re: Healthcare Reform Passes the House
Posted by annoyedTTCer
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Where does it say that our taxes will increase. I think if you look at what we won't be paying for anymore you will see that we will be paying less.
If we go on this way with no reform our taxes will increase. We cannot afford to go on this way.
The use of ERs is not a cost effective way to pay for healthcare. The costs are staggering. We pay for that now. ERs can't handle the load either.
DH went to the ER in June for Shingles because our doc wanted an Infectious disease doc to see him to make sure of the diagnosis.
No less than 5 doctors and 5 nurses along with 3-4 administrator type people "saw" him. How efficient is that????
Unfortunately that was an emergency situation that could not have been avoided with preventative doc visits but people use the ER that don't have coverage because hospitals cannot turn people away. Doctors can.
If everyone was insured, they would go to doctors. The bill rate would be so much lower and cost less and people who be able to contribute to their plans within their budget and get better care and have relationships with their health care professionals. They would be cared for instead of treated in an emergency situation.
Bill from Winthrop for DH's visit=$3,790. Included everything but the $150 co=pay. He was there for 6 hours.
Doc visit would have been a $30 co-pay. Doc would have billed about $150 and the meds would have been about $200. Net cost $380. Ten times less.
Most reports from the GAO show these plans costing the government more than is made up in their cost cutting schemes.
Our deficint is so out of control our only option is to raise taxes just to service our debt.
what reports?
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Re: Healthcare Reform Passes the House
Posted by MrsProfessor
Posted by prncsslehcar
I'm probably in the extreme minority here, but as someone who has incredible health insurance, I can honestly say that my husband and I both feel that if we have to pay more so that other people can also have health insurance, then we are ok with it. Sometimes it's for the greater good. Yes my insurance might change, yes the price might go up, but I'm ok with it because when it comes down to it, tomorrow, my husband could be out of a job and we'd be screwed and it could happen to anyone else, too.
That's just my opinion, and I just feel as someone who has wanted healthcare reform, I realistically understand that it will eventually end up costing me more. And I really am ok with that.
I agree with you and I am glad that others agreed with you too. I hear people complaining about this country going to he** because of this but I think the real danger is that too many people in this country do not give a *#&^ about their fellow Americans. People only care about themselves. You can care about your family while also being concerned for others. We are LUCKY to live in this country despite the current challenges. How many people live in countries where they don't have indoor plumbing? Where they are surrounded by disease and poverty and true tryannical governments? Compared to others in the world, we have very little to b*tch about.
I agree with you as well.
prncsslehcar I was always raised to try to seek the "greater good"
Many times in my life and in my families lives we have made our decisions based on HOW MANY people will benefit, not how *I* will benefit.
I do not deny I grew up in very fortunate circumstances.
If I can help others in literally life or death matters, why wouldn't I?
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Re: Healthcare Reform Passes the House
Can someone answer a few questions for me?
As someone w/ great insurance:
1. Will I be able to keep my current insurance? If so, will I have to pay more for it? (I currently pay about $400 a month.)
2. Will I have to change my doctors?
3. Will I get hit with higher taxes as a result of this plan?
4. Will my coverage change?
I think a lot of people have these same questions. I can't really have an opinion on this until I know more about it.
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Re: Healthcare Reform Passes the House
Posted by MrsProfessor
Posted by prncsslehcar
I'm probably in the extreme minority here, but as someone who has incredible health insurance, I can honestly say that my husband and I both feel that if we have to pay more so that other people can also have health insurance, then we are ok with it. Sometimes it's for the greater good. Yes my insurance might change, yes the price might go up, but I'm ok with it because when it comes down to it, tomorrow, my husband could be out of a job and we'd be screwed and it could happen to anyone else, too.
That's just my opinion, and I just feel as someone who has wanted healthcare reform, I realistically understand that it will eventually end up costing me more. And I really am ok with that.
I agree with you and I am glad that others agreed with you too. I hear people complaining about this country going to he** because of this but I think the real danger is that too many people in this country do not give a *#&^ about their fellow Americans. People only care about themselves. You can care about your family while also being concerned for others. We are LUCKY to live in this country despite the current challenges. How many people live in countries where they don't have indoor plumbing? Where they are surrounded by disease and poverty and true tryannical governments? Compared to others in the world, we have very little to b*tch about.
Thank you. To me this is just another sign of the "me" culture that is infecting this country. As long as it's not affecting me I don't want to pay for it attitude
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Re: Healthcare Reform Passes the House
Posted by BunnyWife
Posted by MrsProfessor
Posted by prncsslehcar
I'm probably in the extreme minority here, but as someone who has incredible health insurance, I can honestly say that my husband and I both feel that if we have to pay more so that other people can also have health insurance, then we are ok with it. Sometimes it's for the greater good. Yes my insurance might change, yes the price might go up, but I'm ok with it because when it comes down to it, tomorrow, my husband could be out of a job and we'd be screwed and it could happen to anyone else, too.
That's just my opinion, and I just feel as someone who has wanted healthcare reform, I realistically understand that it will eventually end up costing me more. And I really am ok with that.
I agree with you and I am glad that others agreed with you too. I hear people complaining about this country going to he** because of this but I think the real danger is that too many people in this country do not give a *#&^ about their fellow Americans. People only care about themselves. You can care about your family while also being concerned for others. We are LUCKY to live in this country despite the current challenges. How many people live in countries where they don't have indoor plumbing? Where they are surrounded by disease and poverty and true tryannical governments? Compared to others in the world, we have very little to b*tch about.
Thank you. To me this is just another sign of the "me" culture that is infecting this country. As long as it's not affecting me I don't want to pay for it attitude
Wake me when others are ready to step in to help me pay by bills.
Wake me when all Americans pay taxes and not just 60%.
Till then we are not all in this together.
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Re: Healthcare Reform Passes the House
Posted by BunnyWife
Posted by Xelindrya
I'm just 'not ok' with paying for insurance for others by taking from my own. This isnt a communist country, it *IS* a capitalist society. I'm not ashamed of that. I worked hard to get what little I have. I will not apologize for wanting to keep it.
We are not a purely capitalist society. As much as some people would like to believe that, we aren't. There would be no medicaid, medicare, family health plus, healthy NY and the like, funding for the arts, schools, hospitals, fire departments, public libraries, air traffic control system, highways, parks, police, unemployment insurance......I could go on but I won't. It's not black and white. It's not that the country is either a socialist (which is very different the Communist) or capitalist, it's a bit of both as most countries in the world are.
ITA. It amazes me how ignorant people are on what such regimes mean. A LOT of Countries are a mix. Very rarely do we have a solely Communist country. I can't even believe people are even putting communism and socialism in the same sentence.
It's not back and White in MANY Countries.
But what amazes me is that people are basing their entire judgement on their current job.
So what happen if they lose their job, cannot find another one or find out without benefits? How will they feel then?
Our system is not working for 50 MILLION people. That's an amazing number of people without adequate insurance. It's unbelievable to think that many are not covered.
We ARE paying for those people now. Does anyone really thing that those who can't pay for their hospital stay, the hospitals are going to eat it? Really? No, they will charge more for other people. The insurances will pay. Then raise the rates anyway on the people who do have insurance.
Insurances have to be regulated. If you work or know someone in insurance, you know about denying. Claims comes in. Trash!! Insurer calls again. Asked to resubmit claim. Insurance: never go it again! It's a game! That's what they do.
For those who claim they won't be able to see the doctor of their choosing or wait MONTHS to see a specialist. It is ALREADY happening. You are suck into your network Doctors. Most of us are. I have had to wait 3 months to see my OB or another specialist. Are people so in denial?
And applying for medicare/medicaid. Do you know how LOW your income has to be to qualify?
So yes, it's time to change.
Everybody is against change but our system is not working. And if it's working for you now, it may not when you lose your job.
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Re: Healthcare Reform Passes the House
Posted by smdl
Posted by BunnyWife
Posted by Xelindrya
I'm just 'not ok' with paying for insurance for others by taking from my own. This isnt a communist country, it *IS* a capitalist society. I'm not ashamed of that. I worked hard to get what little I have. I will not apologize for wanting to keep it.
We are not a purely capitalist society. As much as some people would like to believe that, we aren't. There would be no medicaid, medicare, family health plus, healthy NY and the like, funding for the arts, schools, hospitals, fire departments, public libraries, air traffic control system, highways, parks, police, unemployment insurance......I could go on but I won't. It's not black and white. It's not that the country is either a socialist (which is very different the Communist) or capitalist, it's a bit of both as most countries in the world are.
The same people touting their capitalist beliefs will be perfectly happy to accept their unemployment should they lose their jobs. 
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Re: Healthcare Reform Passes the House
Posted by skinny
Can someone answer a few questions for me?
As someone w/ great insurance:
1. Will I be able to keep my current insurance? If so, will I have to pay more for it? (I currently pay about $400 a month.)
2. Will I have to change my doctors?
3. Will I get hit with higher taxes as a result of this plan?
4. Will my coverage change?
I think a lot of people have these same questions. I can't really have an opinion on this until I know more about it.
My read of the bill (in fact, ALL versions that have been put forth thus far) yields the following answers to your questions:
1) it depends on what plan you have, but most likely, no, you will not have to pay more for your current plan. they are only exploring taxing the so called "Cadillac" plans with much higher premiums than $400.
2) no, you will not have to change doctors.
3) again, hard to say b/c the funding of the bills is still being worked out. will there be some aggregate cost to the American public, yes, but at this point, it's too early to say that it's going to cost each tax paying adult $X for the plan.
4) your coverage most likely will not change for the worse and in fact may expand depending on your own situation, if you have, for example, a pre-existing condition.
HTH.
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Re: Healthcare Reform Passes the House
I still can't figure out why people think that if we have some type of socialist program that we aren't a democratic society.. and I don't understand why people equte democracy with capitalism..
We aren't a truly capitalistic society- we aren't true free market and I think we'd all be PO'd if we were....
In any case- I applaud the House passing health care reform- we need it- millions of americans need it.
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Re: Healthcare Reform Passes the House
Posted by MrsProfessor
Posted by prncsslehcar
I'm probably in the extreme minority here, but as someone who has incredible health insurance, I can honestly say that my husband and I both feel that if we have to pay more so that other people can also have health insurance, then we are ok with it. Sometimes it's for the greater good. Yes my insurance might change, yes the price might go up, but I'm ok with it because when it comes down to it, tomorrow, my husband could be out of a job and we'd be screwed and it could happen to anyone else, too.
That's just my opinion, and I just feel as someone who has wanted healthcare reform, I realistically understand that it will eventually end up costing me more. And I really am ok with that.
I agree with you and I am glad that others agreed with you too. I hear people complaining about this country going to he** because of this but I think the real danger is that too many people in this country do not give a *#&^ about their fellow Americans. People only care about themselves. You can care about your family while also being concerned for others. We are LUCKY to live in this country despite the current challenges. How many people live in countries where they don't have indoor plumbing? Where they are surrounded by disease and poverty and true tryannical governments? Compared to others in the world, we have very little to b*tch about.
I agree. If this country is indeed going to hell in a handbasket, it is primarily due to the "me me me" mentality so many exhibit--not because Democrats or Republicans are in power or not.
Some of the healthcare reform discussion (not just here, elsewhere) has me amazed at how little empathy so many have for other Americans. Any of us could lose our job tomorrow and not be able to afford COBRA coverage--it's expensive! And we may not find another job for a long time. I do agree that I would like to see some focus on job creation next, but I don't think we should postpone healthcare. If the bill has flaws, they can be tweaked--certainly Medicare and Medicaid have not remained the same over time. But I do feel leaving this issue alone is dangerous--the last time anyone tried to do something about it was nearly oh, 16 years ago. Waiting to get it just right will leave us with no healthcare reform for God knows how long. And there will always be people who aren't happy with the final plan.
And again, it is not like we are not paying for the uninsured now--we are.
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Re: Healthcare Reform Passes the House
Posted by DiamondGirl
The same people touting their capitalist beliefs will be perfectly happy to accept their unemployment should they lose their jobs.
Yes, people like my DH accepted his unemployment check when he got laid off...and why? Because as a "captilist" he has paid into the system by WORKING FOR A LIVING for the past 20 years & paying taxes. Guess what, he still doesn't have a "real" job...but he doesn't sit around and complain about the government and say that they should be giving him money. He took some crappy part time job that paid next to nothing compared to his executive salary to pay the bills...it's called a work ethic..something much of America has lost in the last few years...people expect the government to give them everything for doing nothing and expect the money to magically come from somewhere! Some of us "capitalists" grew up poor and had to put ourselves through college...we worked hard for what we have and don't feel like we should be punished for it...my parents taught me that if you want something in life you must work hard and earn it. When we could afford it, we donated money to several charities as well as donated time...we are not some rich elitists who don't want to help others or the less fortunate...some of us are just scraping by.
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Re: Healthcare Reform Passes the House
Posted by KittyKatCopper
Posted by DiamondGirl
The same people touting their capitalist beliefs will be perfectly happy to accept their unemployment should they lose their jobs.
Yes, people like my DH accepted his unemployment check when he got laid off...and why? Because as a "captilist" he has paid into the system by WORKING FOR A LIVING for the past 20 years & paying taxes. Guess what, he still doesn't have a "real" job...but he doesn't sit around and complain about the government and say that they should be giving him money. He took some crappy part time job that paid next to nothing compared to his executive salary to pay the bills...it's called a work ethic..something much of America has lost in the last few years...people expect the government to give them everything for doing nothing and expect the money to magically come from somewhere! Some of us "capitalists" grew up poor and had to put ourselves through college...we worked hard for what we have and don't feel like we should be punished for it...my parents taught me that if you want something in life you must work hard and earn it. When we could afford it, we donated money to several charities as well as donated time...we are not some rich elitists who don't want to help others or the less fortunate...some of us are just scraping by.
Many of the uninsured ARE working people, with a good work ethic---and NO insurance.
I hate when people assume that everyone without insurance is some smuck who doesn't want to work and sits home all day-- it just is not true!
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Re: Healthcare Reform Passes the House
Unemployment is paid by unemployment taxes that the employer pays. We as employees don't personally contribute to this tax.
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Re: Healthcare Reform Passes the House
Posted by prncsslehcar
I'm probably in the extreme minority here, but as someone who has incredible health insurance, I can honestly say that my husband and I both feel that if we have to pay more so that other people can also have health insurance, then we are ok with it. Sometimes it's for the greater good. Yes my insurance might change, yes the price might go up, but I'm ok with it because when it comes down to it, tomorrow, my husband could be out of a job and we'd be screwed and it could happen to anyone else, too.
That's just my opinion, and I just feel as someone who has wanted healthcare reform, I realistically understand that it will eventually end up costing me more. And I really am ok with that.
I love this, thanks so much, this post has made my day!
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Re: Healthcare Reform Passes the House
Posted by DiamondGirl
Posted by KittyKatCopper
Posted by DiamondGirl
The same people touting their capitalist beliefs will be perfectly happy to accept their unemployment should they lose their jobs.
Yes, people like my DH accepted his unemployment check when he got laid off...and why? Because as a "captilist" he has paid into the system by WORKING FOR A LIVING for the past 20 years & paying taxes. Guess what, he still doesn't have a "real" job...but he doesn't sit around and complain about the government and say that they should be giving him money. He took some crappy part time job that paid next to nothing compared to his executive salary to pay the bills...it's called a work ethic..something much of America has lost in the last few years...people expect the government to give them everything for doing nothing and expect the money to magically come from somewhere! Some of us "capitalists" grew up poor and had to put ourselves through college...we worked hard for what we have and don't feel like we should be punished for it...my parents taught me that if you want something in life you must work hard and earn it. When we could afford it, we donated money to several charities as well as donated time...we are not some rich elitists who don't want to help others or the less fortunate...some of us are just scraping by.
Many of the uninsured ARE working people, with a good work ethic---and NO insurance.
I hate when people assume that everyone without insurance is some smuck who doesn't want to work and sits home all day-- it just is not true!
Seriously. I am self-employed. I do not have the option of getting insurance for myself. Luckily we have insurance through my DH.
However, what if he were to lose his job? Then our family would be SOL. We could not afford to pay COBRA, but would not qualify for medicaid.
So even though I work hard, VERY hard, we would have no insurance, because there is no (affordable) option for the self employed. Or for the people who work for companies who don't offer insurance. Or for those who work several part time jobs and their companies don't offer insurance for part-time workers.
The healthcare system in this country needs serious help. If you think what we have now works, you are hiding behind some rose-tinted glasses.
You are "scared" the government will be choosing what doctors you can or can't see? Don't you know insurance companies do that now?
My DS has some serious skin issues. I wanted to take him to a pediatric dermatologist - one who I had heard was the best. But, he doesn't accept my insurance. So I couldn't take him to see the dr. would be best for him because I can't afford to pay out of pocket.
I have had to pay ridiculous amounts of money for medications because the insurance company doesn't cover it. Or the insurance company doesn't agree with the way the prescription was written.
The cost of insurance premiums goes up every year - there is no control over it. The cost of the co-pay goes up every year - for me to the point I could not afford to get test done that were recommended for me because I was supposed to go to several different doctors, but couldn't afford to pay that many "specialist" copays.
This system sucks, and I am glad that someone is finally trying to do something about it.
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Re: Healthcare Reform Passes the House
Posted by SweetTooth
This system sucks, and I am glad that someone is finally trying to do something about it.
Exactly...
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Re: Healthcare Reform Passes the House
Posted by DiamondGirl
Many of the uninsured ARE working people, with a good work ethic---and NO insurance.
I hate when people assume that everyone without insurance is some smuck who doesn't want to work and sits home all day-- it just is not true!
That was not what i was saying. I should have written SOME people expect something for nothing...i was just expressing MY situation and my b/g and the fact that my DH & i believe in capitalism and have relied on unemployment. It was your comment about "capitalists ready to get our check when unemployment hits" that struck a nerve and that was what my "rant" was aimed at. But then again being a conservative in NY i don't expect many people to agree with my opinion, and that is fine...that is what makes America great! I am just happy that i have the right to express it!
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Re: Healthcare Reform Passes the House
Posted by KittyKatCopper
Posted by DiamondGirl
Many of the uninsured ARE working people, with a good work ethic---and NO insurance.
I hate when people assume that everyone without insurance is some smuck who doesn't want to work and sits home all day-- it just is not true!
That was not what i was saying. I should have written SOME people expect something for nothing...i was just expressing MY situation and my b/g and the fact that my DH & i believe in capitalism and have relied on unemployment. It was your comment about "capitalists ready to get our check when unemployment hits" that struck a nerve and that was what my "rant" was aimed at. But then again being a conservative in NY i don't expect many people to agree with my opinion, and that is fine...that is what makes America great! I am just happy that i have the right to express it!
I am sorry I struck a nerve with you as I did not mean to offend.
My Dh and I also work very hard.
Of course we do not want our hard earned $$ going to people we do not work hard but that is not how I look at healthcare reform. There will always be people "playing the system" or whatever BUT if good, hard working people are benefitting then I think it is a good thing imo.
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Re: Healthcare Reform Passes the House
Posted by DiamondGirl
I am sorry I struck a nerve with you as I did not mean to offend.
My Dh and I also work very hard.
Of course we do not want our hard earned $$ going to people we do not work hard but that is not how I look at healthcare reform. There will always be people "playing the system" or whatever BUT if good, hard working people are benefitting then I think it is a good thing imo.
Not a problem Sorry for my soapbox rant...haha...it's been tough since he lost his job but i am thankful for all that we are blessed with..and i know there are people out there who are way worse off than us...let's hope it all works out so that more people can benefit than not! 
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Re: Healthcare Reform Passes the House
Posted by KittyKatCopper
Posted by DiamondGirl
Many of the uninsured ARE working people, with a good work ethic---and NO insurance.
I hate when people assume that everyone without insurance is some smuck who doesn't want to work and sits home all day-- it just is not true!
That was not what i was saying. I should have written SOME people expect something for nothing...i was just expressing MY situation and my b/g and the fact that my DH & i believe in capitalism and have relied on unemployment. It was your comment about "capitalists ready to get our check when unemployment hits" that struck a nerve and that was what my "rant" was aimed at. But then again being a conservative in NY i don't expect many people to agree with my opinion, and that is fine...that is what makes America great! I am just happy that i have the right to express it!
Your DH didn't contribute one dime to his unemployment benefits. Taxes from his employer paid for it.
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