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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
Posted by KarenK122
As usual this thread turned into something ridiculous. Every single child has been affected by Covid. From the youngest who have missed out on the basic social skills learning that Pre-K, K and 1st Grade which is important for development. To the children in the middle who are missing out on learning how to work with others and social skills as well. Older children have missed out on completing their coursework, proms, graduations, parties, etc. Even if someone thinks their child has gone through this pandemic unscathed, there are still going to be long term issues. If you do not think so then that is very naïve. Kids are afraid. At first they were afraid of killing their grandparents if they saw them. Now they are afraid of life never turning back to normal. Whether your district had in school learning or remote, everyone is behind with something. Academically I think it was less damaging to the younger children as they have plenty of time to catch up. High School students, not so much. Nothing was normal the last two years and while some children may have preferred online learning and being home, the vast majority did not and these two years will affect everyone for a long time.
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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
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Posted by KarenK122
As usual this thread turned into something ridiculous. Every single child has been affected by Covid. From the youngest who have missed out on the basic social skills learning that Pre-K, K and 1st Grade which is important for development. To the children in the middle who are missing out on learning how to work with others and social skills as well. Older children have missed out on completing their coursework, proms, graduations, parties, etc. Even if someone thinks their child has gone through this pandemic unscathed, there are still going to be long term issues. If you do not think so then that is very naïve. Kids are afraid. At first they were afraid of killing their grandparents if they saw them. Now they are afraid of life never turning back to normal. Whether your district had in school learning or remote, everyone is behind with something. Academically I think it was less damaging to the younger children as they have plenty of time to catch up. High School students, not so much. Nothing was normal the last two years and while some children may have preferred online learning and being home, the vast majority did not and these two years will affect everyone for a long time.
I don’t doubt that a lot of kids will have lasting negative effects from the pandemic but I’m not naive to think that my own will probably not. And I can assure you my kids never thought they were going to kill grandma or grandpa. Two out of three of my kids have been back at school full time since Sept 2020. I don’t know maybe I have a different perspective. I went to Catholic school where recess was forced organized sports in a parking lot and nuns still found it okay to slap students. Even with covid restrictions my kids still have it better than I did. Lol
ITA
At this point I don't see any issues with my own kids, they are really no different now than they were pre-COVID. Early on they struggled but as soon as school got back to normal at the end of 2020, so did they.
At far as being fearful, they really don't give COVID a passing thought anymore. They have had it, they don't fear getting it again and they most definitely never worried about giving it to anyone else. They are back to being happy, well adjusted kids who love school and have adjusted to wearing a mask every day.
Like I've said, kids are resilient, even more than we give them credit for.
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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
Definitely. We are away with friends - and their daughter who is with us is a senior in college. She has friends here as well and my almost 10 year old and her friends were reminiscing their March 2020 birthdays today and it made me so sad - especially how they just left college one day and never went back except to get their stuff.
We’ve lived a pretty normal life since May 2020 (other than school which didn’t return to normal until April 2021). We still did sports, travel, play dates, etc. But it’s still not normal. And it bothers me that some people feel that we should stay this way.!
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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
Posted by lululu
Posted by KarenK122
As usual this thread turned into something ridiculous. Every single child has been affected by Covid. From the youngest who have missed out on the basic social skills learning that Pre-K, K and 1st Grade which is important for development. To the children in the middle who are missing out on learning how to work with others and social skills as well. Older children have missed out on completing their coursework, proms, graduations, parties, etc. Even if someone thinks their child has gone through this pandemic unscathed, there are still going to be long term issues. If you do not think so then that is very naïve. Kids are afraid. At first they were afraid of killing their grandparents if they saw them. Now they are afraid of life never turning back to normal. Whether your district had in school learning or remote, everyone is behind with something. Academically I think it was less damaging to the younger children as they have plenty of time to catch up. High School students, not so much. Nothing was normal the last two years and while some children may have preferred online learning and being home, the vast majority did not and these two years will affect everyone for a long time.
I don’t doubt that a lot of kids will have lasting negative effects from the pandemic but I’m not naive to think that my own will probably not. And I can assure you my kids never thought they were going to kill grandma or grandpa. Two out of three of my kids have been back at school full time since Sept 2020. I don’t know maybe I have a different perspective. I went to Catholic school where recess was forced organized sports in a parking lot and nuns still found it okay to slap students. Even with covid restrictions my kids still have it better than I did. Lol
Omg lol, I was just telling my DH about my Catholic school experiences. In first grade my teacher was a nun who looped me onto her cane and dragged me out of the bathroom when I was caught playing in the sink with my friend. 
I think as with anything, some people will handle this better than others. I don't think anyone should be telling someone else that their kids are not ok- you don't know their own personal experiences, home life, personalities, etc. Same goes for the other side- don't say all kids are fine, because again, how do we know?
I am only speaking for MY family when I say my children are fine. They never feared killing their grandparents, never feared getting COVID, they don't freak out about how long masks will last- they are very go with the flow. But that is my family- my family's truth is not everyone else's truth.
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I feel very badly for my students (college). Aside from the seniors, none of them have ever had a full normal year of college. We are largely back in person, but there are still some restrictions in place, masks, random testing, etc.
It was great to see them back in person this past fall semester. They were clearly so happy to be in a classroom with other students. I would say I usually have pretty good participation levels in my classes, but it was extra stellar in the fall.
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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
Posted by oldtimerocknroll
I feel very badly for my students (college). Aside from the seniors, none of them have ever had a full normal year of college. We are largely back in person, but there are still some restrictions in place, masks, random testing, etc.
It was great to see them back in person this past fall semester. They were clearly so happy to be in a classroom with other students. I would say I usually have pretty good participation levels in my classes, but it was extra stellar in the fall.
IME college kids had it bad too. It wasn't JUST the younger kids who were affected as some might think. Even now many classes are still remote which doesn't give them the college experience either which they are losing out on.
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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by lululu
Posted by KarenK122
As usual this thread turned into something ridiculous. Every single child has been affected by Covid. From the youngest who have missed out on the basic social skills learning that Pre-K, K and 1st Grade which is important for development. To the children in the middle who are missing out on learning how to work with others and social skills as well. Older children have missed out on completing their coursework, proms, graduations, parties, etc. Even if someone thinks their child has gone through this pandemic unscathed, there are still going to be long term issues. If you do not think so then that is very naïve. Kids are afraid. At first they were afraid of killing their grandparents if they saw them. Now they are afraid of life never turning back to normal. Whether your district had in school learning or remote, everyone is behind with something. Academically I think it was less damaging to the younger children as they have plenty of time to catch up. High School students, not so much. Nothing was normal the last two years and while some children may have preferred online learning and being home, the vast majority did not and these two years will affect everyone for a long time.
I don’t doubt that a lot of kids will have lasting negative effects from the pandemic but I’m not naive to think that my own will probably not. And I can assure you my kids never thought they were going to kill grandma or grandpa. Two out of three of my kids have been back at school full time since Sept 2020. I don’t know maybe I have a different perspective. I went to Catholic school where recess was forced organized sports in a parking lot and nuns still found it okay to slap students. Even with covid restrictions my kids still have it better than I did. Lol
ITA
At this point I don't see any issues with my own kids, they are really no different now than they were pre-COVID. Early on they struggled but as soon as school got back to normal at the end of 2020, so did they.
At far as being fearful, they really don't give COVID a passing thought anymore. They have had it, they don't fear getting it again and they most definitely never worried about giving it to anyone else. They are back to being happy, well adjusted kids who love school and have adjusted to wearing a mask every day.
Like I've said, kids are resilient, even more than we give them credit for.
They do realize they CAN get it again though, right, even if they are vaccinated?
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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
Posted by lululu
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Is this the world’s saddest contest? Which age group had it worst?
I think it's safe to say that everyone, at every age, has been miserable in some capacity these last two years.
Here's hoping that at some point we are past all of this insanity.
I have to be honest. I haven’t been miserable and neither have my kids. I was miserable for the first couple months and I made changes in my life to combat that. I realize I am lucky that I was able to make changes but honestly I’ve been through a lot worse than this in my life. I lost my dad when I was only 22 and that helped put a lot of subsequent events in my life into perspective.
As far as the kids and masks, I do believe they work and so I just tell my kids they are helping prevent others from getting sick. They are more than happy to wear them. I don’t think that will make them spineless. I think it will make them compassionate.
To each his own. I’m glad my children have been affected very little by the whole thing. Any academic deficiencies have been made up already. Like many have said, kids are resilient.
I strongly agree with a lot of this.
Covid and masking has absolutely reinforced the idea of compassion. DS understands that a mask is not fun or ideal but it helps keep others from getting sick during a pandemic and sometimes we have to wear them. It's not the end of the world.
I also lost a parent young - during HS actually - and it absolutely affects my daily worldview in terms of keeping things in perspective. For all my railing about large scale social ills, my bar for day to day happiness is actually very low. If I can physically get out of bed and my loved ones and I are healthy, it's a great day. That doesn't mean I'm in a good mood all the time but I shake most things off quickly.
Like others have said, privilege has an incalculable impact on how people have experienced the pandemic (I've been talking about privilege on here for years, way before Covid.) Children of color and children in poverty are way more likely to experience sub par school environments with poor ventilation, prolonged closures, absent teachers, etc. They are much more likely to have a parent unable to work from home who couldn't afford childcare and tutors to help their child catch up. More likely to have lost a parent from Covid as well (something I really haven't seen mentioned on here but which is as traumatic as it gets for children and happened to many.) Etc. etc. My point is that like many on here I was lucky and I wish we could see some large scale social change to ameliorate this but we never seem to learn our lesson in the US.
I definitely see how the long term school closures can be very difficult for kids. Hopefully we've seen the end of that.
ETA I definitely think certain things like kids not being able to get touch based therapies is bullsh!t. Common sense needs to be applied to get children what they need.
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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
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Posted by oldtimerocknroll
I feel very badly for my students (college). Aside from the seniors, none of them have ever had a full normal year of college. We are largely back in person, but there are still some restrictions in place, masks, random testing, etc.
It was great to see them back in person this past fall semester. They were clearly so happy to be in a classroom with other students. I would say I usually have pretty good participation levels in my classes, but it was extra stellar in the fall.
IME college kids had it bad too. It wasn't JUST the younger kids who were affected as some might think. Even now many classes are still remote which doesn't give them the college experience either which they are losing out on.
I actually feel really bad for the 16-22 crowd. I feel like all the things you worked towards - high school graduation, college, college graduation, study abroad, etc. was all tainted. That is irreplaceable. College is such an important time as far as gaining independence, figuring out what you want to do with your life, networking.... I don't really know how you recover from having all of that taken away.
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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
Posted by JennP
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Posted by LuckyStar
Is this the world’s saddest contest? Which age group had it worst?
I think it's safe to say that everyone, at every age, has been miserable in some capacity these last two years.
Here's hoping that at some point we are past all of this insanity.
I have to be honest. I haven’t been miserable and neither have my kids. I was miserable for the first couple months and I made changes in my life to combat that. I realize I am lucky that I was able to make changes but honestly I’ve been through a lot worse than this in my life. I lost my dad when I was only 22 and that helped put a lot of subsequent events in my life into perspective.
As far as the kids and masks, I do believe they work and so I just tell my kids they are helping prevent others from getting sick. They are more than happy to wear them. I don’t think that will make them spineless. I think it will make them compassionate.
To each his own. I’m glad my children have been affected very little by the whole thing. Any academic deficiencies have been made up already. Like many have said, kids are resilient.
I strongly agree with a lot of this.
Covid and masking has absolutely reinforced the idea of compassion. DS understands that a mask is not fun or ideal but it helps keep others from getting sick during a pandemic and sometimes we have to wear them. It's not the end of the world.
I also lost a parent young - during HS actually - and it absolutely affects my daily worldview in terms of keeping things in perspective. For all my railing about large scale social ills, my bar for day to day happiness is actually very low. If I can physically get out of bed and my loved ones and I are healthy, it's a great day. That doesn't mean I'm in a good mood all the time but I shake most things off quickly.
Like others have said, privilege has an incalculable impact on how people have experienced the pandemic (I've been talking about privilege on here for years, way before Covid.) Children of color and children in poverty are way more likely to experience sub par school environments with poor ventilation, prolonged closures, absent teachers, etc. They are much more likely to have a parent unable to work from home who couldn't afford childcare and tutors to help their child catch up. More likely to have lost a parent from Covid as well (something I really haven't seen mentioned on here but which is as traumatic as it gets for children and happened to many.) Etc. etc. My point is that like many on here I was lucky and I wish we could see some large scale social change to ameliorate this but we never seem to learn our lesson in the US.
I definitely see how the long term school closures can be very difficult for kids. Hopefully we've seen the end of that.
ETA I definitely think certain things like kids not being able to get touch based therapies is bullsh!t. Common sense needs to be applied to get children what they need.
I also think that for all the adversity I had during my childhood (and I did have plenty which I would rather not get into!), it really made me the person that I am today. Because of certain things that happened to my family I became a strong, independent self advocate at a very young age. I think that if we look at the big picture, this experience in the long run will serve to make our children survivors.
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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
Posted by lululu
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by oldtimerocknroll
I feel very badly for my students (college). Aside from the seniors, none of them have ever had a full normal year of college. We are largely back in person, but there are still some restrictions in place, masks, random testing, etc.
It was great to see them back in person this past fall semester. They were clearly so happy to be in a classroom with other students. I would say I usually have pretty good participation levels in my classes, but it was extra stellar in the fall.
IME college kids had it bad too. It wasn't JUST the younger kids who were affected as some might think. Even now many classes are still remote which doesn't give them the college experience either which they are losing out on.
I actually feel really bad for the 16-22 crowd. I feel like all the things you worked towards - high school graduation, college, college graduation, study abroad, etc. was all tainted. That is irreplaceable. College is such an important time as far as gaining independence, figuring out what you want to do with your life, networking.... I don't really know how you recover from having all of that taken away.
My boss's son was so excited that he got accepted to Fordham, was excited to meet people, live there have the whole college experience. When they went remote he was so upset.
Then he finally went back in person last semester, love it, , leased an apartment nearby to campus for this semester and they are threatening remote again after he just signed the lease.
He is ready to just pull out and look at other options but now he's stuck in a lease for an apartment he doesn't even need.
It's really, really sad.
And unnecessary! All these schools require vaccines. Let them have a normal experience already.
Enough of this nonsense.
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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
Posted by lululu
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Posted by oldtimerocknroll
I feel very badly for my students (college). Aside from the seniors, none of them have ever had a full normal year of college. We are largely back in person, but there are still some restrictions in place, masks, random testing, etc.
It was great to see them back in person this past fall semester. They were clearly so happy to be in a classroom with other students. I would say I usually have pretty good participation levels in my classes, but it was extra stellar in the fall.
IME college kids had it bad too. It wasn't JUST the younger kids who were affected as some might think. Even now many classes are still remote which doesn't give them the college experience either which they are losing out on.
I actually feel really bad for the 16-22 crowd. I feel like all the things you worked towards - high school graduation, college, college graduation, study abroad, etc. was all tainted. That is irreplaceable. College is such an important time as far as gaining independence, figuring out what you want to do with your life, networking.... I don't really know how you recover from having all of that taken away.
Agreed and maybe because that was the age group I was most familiar with (even though I know younger kids too so I am well aware of what they have gone through) but I found it very sad of all they were losing out on. Some more than others, some didn't care of things they lost out on. My youngest was not as interested in some things that were not done or lesser while my oldest would have missed them more. Still these kids don't have a "normal" school setting and now the vaccinated college kids have to have THREE shots just to go to school to get an education. Something they need to get decent jobs in the future. It is all very sad.
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How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
I think its tough on everyone in some way wether we realize it or not. My granddaughter has missed a total of 4 weeks of daycare with the holiday and 2 times having to quarantine for 10 days do to an "exposure" she was a mess when she had to go back today It's hard enough for kids on a Monday after being with family for 2 days but 4 weeks was torture for her to go back
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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
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I think its tough on everyone in some way wether we realize it or not. My granddaughter has missed a total of 4 weeks of daycare with the holiday and 2 times having to quarantine for 10 days do to an "exposure" she was a mess when she had to go back today It's hard enough for kids on a Monday after being with family for 2 days but 4 weeks was torture for her to go back
It's so sad and now its like, oh you only need 5 days. Ummm... you couldn't have figured that out a year ago after making people lose finances and their mind? 
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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
Posted by JennP
Posted by lululu
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by LuckyStar
Is this the world’s saddest contest? Which age group had it worst?
I think it's safe to say that everyone, at every age, has been miserable in some capacity these last two years.
Here's hoping that at some point we are past all of this insanity.
I have to be honest. I haven’t been miserable and neither have my kids. I was miserable for the first couple months and I made changes in my life to combat that. I realize I am lucky that I was able to make changes but honestly I’ve been through a lot worse than this in my life. I lost my dad when I was only 22 and that helped put a lot of subsequent events in my life into perspective.
As far as the kids and masks, I do believe they work and so I just tell my kids they are helping prevent others from getting sick. They are more than happy to wear them. I don’t think that will make them spineless. I think it will make them compassionate.
To each his own. I’m glad my children have been affected very little by the whole thing. Any academic deficiencies have been made up already. Like many have said, kids are resilient.
I strongly agree with a lot of this.
Covid and masking has absolutely reinforced the idea of compassion. DS understands that a mask is not fun or ideal but it helps keep others from getting sick during a pandemic and sometimes we have to wear them. It's not the end of the world.
I also lost a parent young - during HS actually - and it absolutely affects my daily worldview in terms of keeping things in perspective. For all my railing about large scale social ills, my bar for day to day happiness is actually very low. If I can physically get out of bed and my loved ones and I are healthy, it's a great day. That doesn't mean I'm in a good mood all the time but I shake most things off quickly.
Like others have said, privilege has an incalculable impact on how people have experienced the pandemic (I've been talking about privilege on here for years, way before Covid.) Children of color and children in poverty are way more likely to experience sub par school environments with poor ventilation, prolonged closures, absent teachers, etc. They are much more likely to have a parent unable to work from home who couldn't afford childcare and tutors to help their child catch up. More likely to have lost a parent from Covid as well (something I really haven't seen mentioned on here but which is as traumatic as it gets for children and happened to many.) Etc. etc. My point is that like many on here I was lucky and I wish we could see some large scale social change to ameliorate this but we never seem to learn our lesson in the US.
I definitely see how the long term school closures can be very difficult for kids. Hopefully we've seen the end of that.
ETA I definitely think certain things like kids not being able to get touch based therapies is bullsh!t. Common sense needs to be applied to get children what they need.
ITA.
I think many of us are very fortunate and as such, incredibly grateful to have gone through this pandemic from a place of privilege. I truly feel for the kids (of all ages) who have had to go through this crazy experience in environments where they are lacking resources and support both at school and at home.
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How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
To argue that most or even many kids are fine ignores the data. Kids are largely not fine. Your kid might be “fine” and my kid might be “fine,” but research is showing that’s not the case for a huge number of kids.
The idea that a young child who is left home alone or facing abuse or watching a parent die will come out a better person on the other side is absolutely disgusting.
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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
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The idea that a young child who is left home alone or facing abuse or watching a parent die will come out a better person on the other side is absolutely disgusting.
Who would EVER think that?
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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
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The idea that a young child who is left home alone or facing abuse or watching a parent die will come out a better person on the other side is absolutely disgusting.
Who would EVER think that?
Are you reading these posts?
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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
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The idea that a young child who is left home alone or facing abuse or watching a parent die will come out a better person on the other side is absolutely disgusting.
Who would EVER think that?
Are you reading these posts?
I don't think ANYONE on this thread would look at a child of any age in an extreme situation such as poverty, abuse or losing a parent and think for even a minute that they will "come out better on the other side". I'm not sure where you would even get that idea from the comments made on here. ANY child in a situation like that will no doubt have a tougher path in life and undoubtedly suffer from the trauma of it all.
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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
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The idea that a young child who is left home alone or facing abuse or watching a parent die will come out a better person on the other side is absolutely disgusting.
Who would EVER think that?
Are you reading these posts?
I don't think ANYONE on this thread would look at a child of any age in an extreme situation such as poverty, abuse or losing a parent and think for even a minute that they will "come out better on the other side". I'm not sure where you would even get that idea from the comments made on here. ANY child in a situation like that will no doubt have a tougher path in life and undoubtedly suffer from the trauma of it all.
Are you moderating the board? Posters are saying they have overcome adversity (which is great) and likening it to what these kids are going through now. That’s absurd to me.
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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
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Posted by LuckyStar
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by LuckyStar
The idea that a young child who is left home alone or facing abuse or watching a parent die will come out a better person on the other side is absolutely disgusting.
Who would EVER think that?
Are you reading these posts?
I don't think ANYONE on this thread would look at a child of any age in an extreme situation such as poverty, abuse or losing a parent and think for even a minute that they will "come out better on the other side". I'm not sure where you would even get that idea from the comments made on here. ANY child in a situation like that will no doubt have a tougher path in life and undoubtedly suffer from the trauma of it all.
Are you moderating the board? Posters are saying they have overcome adversity (which is great) and likening it to what these kids are going through now. That’s absurd to me.
I think perhaps you're missing their point but that's fine, I'm not going to argue with you over it.
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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
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I think the kids are more affected by their parents reaction to the pandemic, mask mandates and virtual learning.
The more parents rant and rave about the situation, the more kids get stressed out.
Funny I find the kids who parents run around double masking, not socializing and fearful are the ones who are stressed out and afraid.
DD has a friend who lives in an apartment complex and who to THIS day won't go to the playground area there Because she says it's "full of covid"
Who do you think put that nonsense in her head at the beginning of the pandemic?
My daughter isn't stressed out at all, isn't afraid, because we aren't
She hates wearing a mask because she knows it's useless, like we do. Not because we "rant about it".
She hates virtual learning because it sucks ass and she learns nothing and it's NOT normal.
Any kid who thinks it is....well THEY are the issue and I feel bad that they were never taught this is NOT ok.
Interesting. I have thankfully never encountered a child or parent that has conveyed that they have gotten through the pandemic by pretending all of the mandates and routines are the new permanent normal. That would be a reckless way to cope. I’m not sure how the children in this situation would be “the issue” for others though outside of their own personal growing pains. If anything, they would need our support for the transitions going forwards( is that’s what you mean by “issue”).
What I meant was...that poster was implying that the only reason kids are having any issues with these past 2 years os because of their parents making a big deal about masks, quarantines and shut downs
My point was I WANT my child to make a big deal about this nonsense. I WANT her to know this is most certainly NOT ok. I don't want to quietly put my useless mask back on every time our governor decides to fart in the wind and have my daughter think...oh well this is life. Don't question it. Live in fear forever of germs or ever getting sick.
My point is if you're raising your kid to just quietly comply forever and think masks and shutdowns and being scared of family gatherings are the norm...THAT is the problem.
I totally agree. There are many kids who are going to grow up to be spineless and will go with anything anyone tells them to do with no argument. Its a real shame that parents don't allow their children to voice that alot of this is wrong and not comply, not sit there and say oh well i guess its what we have to do because they will punish us if we don't go along with them.
I also do think many parents are the cause of childrens depression and stress. I see it at school pick up with the parents who wear their masks outdoors to pick up their child, and when they see you maskless they dart the other direction. Or the parents that wont let their child go to a birthday party because its indoors. Or the parent who is constantly sanitizing their kids hands. All this damages their minds and they become scared of alot of things they should have never been scared of.
Maybe there are going to be spineless kids.
But I look at it as I taught my daughter that there are things in life that aren't going to make sense, that aren't going to be fair, that are going to be hard to get through- but we WILL get through it. We made the most of the quarantine time- spending time together and riding bikes, cooking together, gardening,etc. When things opened back up, we made the most of what we could do, when we could. We enjoyed things more, things we had taken for granted, like going out to eat on Friday nights.
I'm not telling my daughter to ignore rules or mandates, but I'm telling her to be aware and be safe. To think for herself, but also to be mindful of others, as we don't know what they are dealing with.
So, yes, the way a parent reacts will have some effect on their kids, but it works both ways. It's not just be scared and wear a mask and stay home or go out and get covid- I never said that to my daughter. I may have been more cautious than some others, but I had my reasons and they were rationally discussed with my child. She doens't live in fear. It doesn't always have to be one extreme or the other.
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| Posted 1/18/22 9:39 AM |
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LuckyStar
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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
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The idea that a young child who is left home alone or facing abuse or watching a parent die will come out a better person on the other side is absolutely disgusting.
Who would EVER think that?
Are you reading these posts?
I don't think ANYONE on this thread would look at a child of any age in an extreme situation such as poverty, abuse or losing a parent and think for even a minute that they will "come out better on the other side". I'm not sure where you would even get that idea from the comments made on here. ANY child in a situation like that will no doubt have a tougher path in life and undoubtedly suffer from the trauma of it all.
Are you moderating the board? Posters are saying they have overcome adversity (which is great) and likening it to what these kids are going through now. That’s absurd to me.
I think perhaps you're missing their point but that's fine, I'm not going to argue with you over it.
It’s entirely possible that I am.
One of the questions the OP posed was how we thought it could be fixed. Admittedly, I did not offer a solution. But I think that’s a really good question and one that can only be considered by someone who can see past themselves and their own families to recognize the problem at hand. I see such a lack of empathy and self awareness on these boards and I don’t understand it.
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| Posted 1/18/22 9:42 AM |
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soontobemommyof2
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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
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I feel very badly for my students (college). Aside from the seniors, none of them have ever had a full normal year of college. We are largely back in person, but there are still some restrictions in place, masks, random testing, etc.
It was great to see them back in person this past fall semester. They were clearly so happy to be in a classroom with other students. I would say I usually have pretty good participation levels in my classes, but it was extra stellar in the fall.
IME college kids had it bad too. It wasn't JUST the younger kids who were affected as some might think. Even now many classes are still remote which doesn't give them the college experience either which they are losing out on.
I actually feel really bad for the 16-22 crowd. I feel like all the things you worked towards - high school graduation, college, college graduation, study abroad, etc. was all tainted. That is irreplaceable. College is such an important time as far as gaining independence, figuring out what you want to do with your life, networking.... I don't really know how you recover from having all of that taken away.
Agreed and maybe because that was the age group I was most familiar with (even though I know younger kids too so I am well aware of what they have gone through) but I found it very sad of all they were losing out on. Some more than others, some didn't care of things they lost out on. My youngest was not as interested in some things that were not done or lesser while my oldest would have missed them more. Still these kids don't have a "normal" school setting and now the vaccinated college kids have to have THREE shots just to go to school to get an education. Something they need to get decent jobs in the future. It is all very sad.
Although I believe in education and will encourage my kids to go to college if that’s what they want, u don’t need to have a degree to have decent, and very lucrative jobs.
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| Posted 1/18/22 9:53 AM |
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lululu
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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
Posted by LuckyStar
Posted by Hofstra26
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Posted by LuckyStar
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by LuckyStar
The idea that a young child who is left home alone or facing abuse or watching a parent die will come out a better person on the other side is absolutely disgusting.
Who would EVER think that?
Are you reading these posts?
I don't think ANYONE on this thread would look at a child of any age in an extreme situation such as poverty, abuse or losing a parent and think for even a minute that they will "come out better on the other side". I'm not sure where you would even get that idea from the comments made on here. ANY child in a situation like that will no doubt have a tougher path in life and undoubtedly suffer from the trauma of it all.
Are you moderating the board? Posters are saying they have overcome adversity (which is great) and likening it to what these kids are going through now. That’s absurd to me.
I think perhaps you're missing their point but that's fine, I'm not going to argue with you over it.
It’s entirely possible that I am.
One of the questions the OP posed was how we thought it could be fixed. Admittedly, I did not offer a solution. But I think that’s a really good question and one that can only be considered by someone who can see past themselves and their own families to recognize the problem at hand. I see such a lack of empathy and self awareness on these boards and I don’t understand it.
Why don't you go back and read what I actually wrote? I was talking about my own experience and yes, unfortunately having to face adversity can have some benefits. I never brought up children facing abuse or watching a parent die (which btw I did have to do at a pretty young age but not as a child). I am referring to learning to cope with unexpected things like remote learning, social distancing and having to wear a mask to school.
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