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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
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I feel very badly for my students (college). Aside from the seniors, none of them have ever had a full normal year of college. We are largely back in person, but there are still some restrictions in place, masks, random testing, etc.
It was great to see them back in person this past fall semester. They were clearly so happy to be in a classroom with other students. I would say I usually have pretty good participation levels in my classes, but it was extra stellar in the fall.
IME college kids had it bad too. It wasn't JUST the younger kids who were affected as some might think. Even now many classes are still remote which doesn't give them the college experience either which they are losing out on.
I actually feel really bad for the 16-22 crowd. I feel like all the things you worked towards - high school graduation, college, college graduation, study abroad, etc. was all tainted. That is irreplaceable. College is such an important time as far as gaining independence, figuring out what you want to do with your life, networking.... I don't really know how you recover from having all of that taken away.
Agreed and maybe because that was the age group I was most familiar with (even though I know younger kids too so I am well aware of what they have gone through) but I found it very sad of all they were losing out on. Some more than others, some didn't care of things they lost out on. My youngest was not as interested in some things that were not done or lesser while my oldest would have missed them more. Still these kids don't have a "normal" school setting and now the vaccinated college kids have to have THREE shots just to go to school to get an education. Something they need to get decent jobs in the future. It is all very sad.
Although I believe in education and will encourage my kids to go to college if that’s what they want, u don’t need to have a degree to have decent, and very lucrative jobs.
I agree but for those that want to have the college experience, it's a tough pill to swallow that you will never get a normal college experience in the current environment. And once that opportunity is gone, it's gone. Not the end of the world obviously but I can understand why it would be extremely disappointing.
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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
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The idea that a young child who is left home alone or facing abuse or watching a parent die will come out a better person on the other side is absolutely disgusting.
Who would EVER think that?
Are you reading these posts?
I don't think ANYONE on this thread would look at a child of any age in an extreme situation such as poverty, abuse or losing a parent and think for even a minute that they will "come out better on the other side". I'm not sure where you would even get that idea from the comments made on here. ANY child in a situation like that will no doubt have a tougher path in life and undoubtedly suffer from the trauma of it all.
Are you moderating the board? Posters are saying they have overcome adversity (which is great) and likening it to what these kids are going through now. That’s absurd to me.
I think perhaps you're missing their point but that's fine, I'm not going to argue with you over it.
It’s entirely possible that I am.
One of the questions the OP posed was how we thought it could be fixed. Admittedly, I did not offer a solution. But I think that’s a really good question and one that can only be considered by someone who can see past themselves and their own families to recognize the problem at hand. I see such a lack of empathy and self awareness on these boards and I don’t understand it.
I am not sure how it can be fixed. I know a lot of schools are starting to focus more on social emotional well being as that needs to be fixed before kids can be appropriately educated.
I just think we have a long road ahead as people are still scared to have their kids in school - there were people in my district lying and saying their kids had Covid when we went back after Christmas break to keep them remote (even though the incidence of spread in our district is so low!)
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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
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The idea that a young child who is left home alone or facing abuse or watching a parent die will come out a better person on the other side is absolutely disgusting.
Who would EVER think that?
Are you reading these posts?
I don't think ANYONE on this thread would look at a child of any age in an extreme situation such as poverty, abuse or losing a parent and think for even a minute that they will "come out better on the other side". I'm not sure where you would even get that idea from the comments made on here. ANY child in a situation like that will no doubt have a tougher path in life and undoubtedly suffer from the trauma of it all.
Are you moderating the board? Posters are saying they have overcome adversity (which is great) and likening it to what these kids are going through now. That’s absurd to me.
I think perhaps you're missing their point but that's fine, I'm not going to argue with you over it.
It’s entirely possible that I am.
One of the questions the OP posed was how we thought it could be fixed. Admittedly, I did not offer a solution. But I think that’s a really good question and one that can only be considered by someone who can see past themselves and their own families to recognize the problem at hand. I see such a lack of empathy and self awareness on these boards and I don’t understand it.
I am not sure how it can be fixed. I know a lot of schools are starting to focus more on social emotional well being as that needs to be fixed before kids can be appropriately educated.
I just think we have a long road ahead as people are still scared to have their kids in school - there were people in my district lying and saying their kids had Covid when we went back after Christmas break to keep them remote (even though the incidence of spread in our district is so low!)
I would think numbers would show that those people are a small minority. I think most people want their kids in school.
As far as solutions go, as long as we as a country have politicians beholden to corporations, dark money in politics, barriers to voting, and a nihilist sense that "I've got mine so screw everyone else" we will never solve this problem or any other large scale problem in American society.
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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
Posted by JennP
Posted by ali120206
Posted by LuckyStar
Posted by Hofstra26
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Posted by LuckyStar
The idea that a young child who is left home alone or facing abuse or watching a parent die will come out a better person on the other side is absolutely disgusting.
Who would EVER think that?
Are you reading these posts?
I don't think ANYONE on this thread would look at a child of any age in an extreme situation such as poverty, abuse or losing a parent and think for even a minute that they will "come out better on the other side". I'm not sure where you would even get that idea from the comments made on here. ANY child in a situation like that will no doubt have a tougher path in life and undoubtedly suffer from the trauma of it all.
Are you moderating the board? Posters are saying they have overcome adversity (which is great) and likening it to what these kids are going through now. That’s absurd to me.
I think perhaps you're missing their point but that's fine, I'm not going to argue with you over it.
It’s entirely possible that I am.
One of the questions the OP posed was how we thought it could be fixed. Admittedly, I did not offer a solution. But I think that’s a really good question and one that can only be considered by someone who can see past themselves and their own families to recognize the problem at hand. I see such a lack of empathy and self awareness on these boards and I don’t understand it.
I am not sure how it can be fixed. I know a lot of schools are starting to focus more on social emotional well being as that needs to be fixed before kids can be appropriately educated.
I just think we have a long road ahead as people are still scared to have their kids in school - there were people in my district lying and saying their kids had Covid when we went back after Christmas break to keep them remote (even though the incidence of spread in our district is so low!)
I would think numbers would show that those people are a small minority. I think most people want their kids in school.
As far as solutions go, as long as we as a country have politicians beholden to corporations, dark money in politics, barriers to voting, and a nihilist sense that "I've got mine so screw everyone else" we will never solve this problem or any other large scale problem in American society.
I agree with you.
We also had blow back over sending kids to school after break. It was the minority, yes, but more than I would have thought (I don’t have an exact number). I understand this is a LI message board and perhaps Ali and I should take our conversation elsewhere but based on what I hear from my friends on LI, the overall idea toward school is very different on LI vs. north of the city.
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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
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I think the kids are more affected by their parents reaction to the pandemic, mask mandates and virtual learning.
The more parents rant and rave about the situation, the more kids get stressed out.
Funny I find the kids who parents run around double masking, not socializing and fearful are the ones who are stressed out and afraid.
DD has a friend who lives in an apartment complex and who to THIS day won't go to the playground area there Because she says it's "full of covid"
Who do you think put that nonsense in her head at the beginning of the pandemic?
My daughter isn't stressed out at all, isn't afraid, because we aren't
She hates wearing a mask because she knows it's useless, like we do. Not because we "rant about it".
She hates virtual learning because it sucks ass and she learns nothing and it's NOT normal.
Any kid who thinks it is....well THEY are the issue and I feel bad that they were never taught this is NOT ok.
Interesting. I have thankfully never encountered a child or parent that has conveyed that they have gotten through the pandemic by pretending all of the mandates and routines are the new permanent normal. That would be a reckless way to cope. I’m not sure how the children in this situation would be “the issue” for others though outside of their own personal growing pains. If anything, they would need our support for the transitions going forwards( is that’s what you mean by “issue”).
What I meant was...that poster was implying that the only reason kids are having any issues with these past 2 years os because of their parents making a big deal about masks, quarantines and shut downs
My point was I WANT my child to make a big deal about this nonsense. I WANT her to know this is most certainly NOT ok. I don't want to quietly put my useless mask back on every time our governor decides to fart in the wind and have my daughter think...oh well this is life. Don't question it. Live in fear forever of germs or ever getting sick.
My point is if you're raising your kid to just quietly comply forever and think masks and shutdowns and being scared of family gatherings are the norm...THAT is the problem.
I totally agree. There are many kids who are going to grow up to be spineless and will go with anything anyone tells them to do with no argument. Its a real shame that parents don't allow their children to voice that alot of this is wrong and not comply, not sit there and say oh well i guess its what we have to do because they will punish us if we don't go along with them.
I also do think many parents are the cause of childrens depression and stress. I see it at school pick up with the parents who wear their masks outdoors to pick up their child, and when they see you maskless they dart the other direction. Or the parents that wont let their child go to a birthday party because its indoors. Or the parent who is constantly sanitizing their kids hands. All this damages their minds and they become scared of alot of things they should have never been scared of.
Maybe there are going to be spineless kids.
But I look at it as I taught my daughter that there are things in life that aren't going to make sense, that aren't going to be fair, that are going to be hard to get through- but we WILL get through it. We made the most of the quarantine time- spending time together and riding bikes, cooking together, gardening,etc. When things opened back up, we made the most of what we could do, when we could. We enjoyed things more, things we had taken for granted, like going out to eat on Friday nights.
I'm not telling my daughter to ignore rules or mandates, but I'm telling her to be aware and be safe. To think for herself, but also to be mindful of others, as we don't know what they are dealing with.
So, yes, the way a parent reacts will have some effect on their kids, but it works both ways. It's not just be scared and wear a mask and stay home or go out and get covid- I never said that to my daughter. I may have been more cautious than some others, but I had my reasons and they were rationally discussed with my child. She doens't live in fear. It doesn't always have to be one extreme or the other.
Kids want to please their parents too and the younger they are the more they listen to them and what they are told and how their parents feel about certain things. As they get older they might have more of an opinion but your home environment means a lot of how you determine what you do in life, at least when you are young. Like I said before, if I was a kid right now, I probably would be more paranoid as the things my mother tells me now, that I just shake my head at, would have ingrained in me. I still remember things she said when I was a kid and now realize how silly they were and I tell her now lol
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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by windyweather21
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Posted by oldtimerocknroll
I feel very badly for my students (college). Aside from the seniors, none of them have ever had a full normal year of college. We are largely back in person, but there are still some restrictions in place, masks, random testing, etc.
It was great to see them back in person this past fall semester. They were clearly so happy to be in a classroom with other students. I would say I usually have pretty good participation levels in my classes, but it was extra stellar in the fall.
IME college kids had it bad too. It wasn't JUST the younger kids who were affected as some might think. Even now many classes are still remote which doesn't give them the college experience either which they are losing out on.
I actually feel really bad for the 16-22 crowd. I feel like all the things you worked towards - high school graduation, college, college graduation, study abroad, etc. was all tainted. That is irreplaceable. College is such an important time as far as gaining independence, figuring out what you want to do with your life, networking.... I don't really know how you recover from having all of that taken away.
Agreed and maybe because that was the age group I was most familiar with (even though I know younger kids too so I am well aware of what they have gone through) but I found it very sad of all they were losing out on. Some more than others, some didn't care of things they lost out on. My youngest was not as interested in some things that were not done or lesser while my oldest would have missed them more. Still these kids don't have a "normal" school setting and now the vaccinated college kids have to have THREE shots just to go to school to get an education. Something they need to get decent jobs in the future. It is all very sad.
Although I believe in education and will encourage my kids to go to college if that’s what they want, u don’t need to have a degree to have decent, and very lucrative jobs.
ITA with that. I think that kids who want to go to college and pursue that should not be forced to get 3 vaccines that are obviously not even working.
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ali120206
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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
Posted by LuckyStar
Posted by JennP
Posted by ali120206
Posted by LuckyStar
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by LuckyStar
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by LuckyStar
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by LuckyStar
The idea that a young child who is left home alone or facing abuse or watching a parent die will come out a better person on the other side is absolutely disgusting.
Who would EVER think that?
Are you reading these posts?
I don't think ANYONE on this thread would look at a child of any age in an extreme situation such as poverty, abuse or losing a parent and think for even a minute that they will "come out better on the other side". I'm not sure where you would even get that idea from the comments made on here. ANY child in a situation like that will no doubt have a tougher path in life and undoubtedly suffer from the trauma of it all.
Are you moderating the board? Posters are saying they have overcome adversity (which is great) and likening it to what these kids are going through now. That’s absurd to me.
I think perhaps you're missing their point but that's fine, I'm not going to argue with you over it.
It’s entirely possible that I am.
One of the questions the OP posed was how we thought it could be fixed. Admittedly, I did not offer a solution. But I think that’s a really good question and one that can only be considered by someone who can see past themselves and their own families to recognize the problem at hand. I see such a lack of empathy and self awareness on these boards and I don’t understand it.
I am not sure how it can be fixed. I know a lot of schools are starting to focus more on social emotional well being as that needs to be fixed before kids can be appropriately educated.
I just think we have a long road ahead as people are still scared to have their kids in school - there were people in my district lying and saying their kids had Covid when we went back after Christmas break to keep them remote (even though the incidence of spread in our district is so low!)
I would think numbers would show that those people are a small minority. I think most people want their kids in school.
As far as solutions go, as long as we as a country have politicians beholden to corporations, dark money in politics, barriers to voting, and a nihilist sense that "I've got mine so screw everyone else" we will never solve this problem or any other large scale problem in American society.
I agree with you.
We also had blow back over sending kids to school after break. It was the minority, yes, but more than I would have thought (I don’t have an exact number). I understand this is a LI message board and perhaps Ali and I should take our conversation elsewhere but based on what I hear from my friends on LI, the overall idea toward school is very different on LI vs. north of the city.
Yes - maybe since we didn’t go as much as LI did last year people are still nervous but like you, it was more than I would’ve thought. And it’s funny as it wasn’t the people I would think would be that way.
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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
Posted by LuckyStar
Posted by JennP
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Posted by Hofstra26
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Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by LuckyStar
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by LuckyStar
The idea that a young child who is left home alone or facing abuse or watching a parent die will come out a better person on the other side is absolutely disgusting.
Who would EVER think that?
Are you reading these posts?
I don't think ANYONE on this thread would look at a child of any age in an extreme situation such as poverty, abuse or losing a parent and think for even a minute that they will "come out better on the other side". I'm not sure where you would even get that idea from the comments made on here. ANY child in a situation like that will no doubt have a tougher path in life and undoubtedly suffer from the trauma of it all.
Are you moderating the board? Posters are saying they have overcome adversity (which is great) and likening it to what these kids are going through now. That’s absurd to me.
I think perhaps you're missing their point but that's fine, I'm not going to argue with you over it.
It’s entirely possible that I am.
One of the questions the OP posed was how we thought it could be fixed. Admittedly, I did not offer a solution. But I think that’s a really good question and one that can only be considered by someone who can see past themselves and their own families to recognize the problem at hand. I see such a lack of empathy and self awareness on these boards and I don’t understand it.
I am not sure how it can be fixed. I know a lot of schools are starting to focus more on social emotional well being as that needs to be fixed before kids can be appropriately educated.
I just think we have a long road ahead as people are still scared to have their kids in school - there were people in my district lying and saying their kids had Covid when we went back after Christmas break to keep them remote (even though the incidence of spread in our district is so low!)
I would think numbers would show that those people are a small minority. I think most people want their kids in school.
As far as solutions go, as long as we as a country have politicians beholden to corporations, dark money in politics, barriers to voting, and a nihilist sense that "I've got mine so screw everyone else" we will never solve this problem or any other large scale problem in American society.
I agree with you.
We also had blow back over sending kids to school after break. It was the minority, yes, but more than I would have thought (I don’t have an exact number). I understand this is a LI message board and perhaps Ali and I should take our conversation elsewhere but based on what I hear from my friends on LI, the overall idea toward school is very different on LI vs. north of the city.
I hope you don't take the conversation elsewhere. It's interesting to hear that there is a different vibe north of the city. I never lived up there and am not closely familiar with the communities and culture so I simply don't know.
I'm genuinely curious as to what you think that's about.
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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
Posted by JennP
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Posted by LuckyStar
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Posted by LuckyStar
The idea that a young child who is left home alone or facing abuse or watching a parent die will come out a better person on the other side is absolutely disgusting.
Who would EVER think that?
Are you reading these posts?
I don't think ANYONE on this thread would look at a child of any age in an extreme situation such as poverty, abuse or losing a parent and think for even a minute that they will "come out better on the other side". I'm not sure where you would even get that idea from the comments made on here. ANY child in a situation like that will no doubt have a tougher path in life and undoubtedly suffer from the trauma of it all.
Are you moderating the board? Posters are saying they have overcome adversity (which is great) and likening it to what these kids are going through now. That’s absurd to me.
I think perhaps you're missing their point but that's fine, I'm not going to argue with you over it.
It’s entirely possible that I am.
One of the questions the OP posed was how we thought it could be fixed. Admittedly, I did not offer a solution. But I think that’s a really good question and one that can only be considered by someone who can see past themselves and their own families to recognize the problem at hand. I see such a lack of empathy and self awareness on these boards and I don’t understand it.
I am not sure how it can be fixed. I know a lot of schools are starting to focus more on social emotional well being as that needs to be fixed before kids can be appropriately educated.
I just think we have a long road ahead as people are still scared to have their kids in school - there were people in my district lying and saying their kids had Covid when we went back after Christmas break to keep them remote (even though the incidence of spread in our district is so low!)
I would think numbers would show that those people are a small minority. I think most people want their kids in school.
As far as solutions go, as long as we as a country have politicians beholden to corporations, dark money in politics, barriers to voting, and a nihilist sense that "I've got mine so screw everyone else" we will never solve this problem or any other large scale problem in American society.
I agree with you.
We also had blow back over sending kids to school after break. It was the minority, yes, but more than I would have thought (I don’t have an exact number). I understand this is a LI message board and perhaps Ali and I should take our conversation elsewhere but based on what I hear from my friends on LI, the overall idea toward school is very different on LI vs. north of the city.
I hope you don't take the conversation elsewhere. It's interesting to hear that there is a different vibe north of the city. I never lived up there and am not closely familiar with the communities and culture so I simply don't know.
I'm genuinely curious as to what you think that's about.
I’m in “real” upstate NY and everyone I know - teachers, parents and students - wants kids in school full time.
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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
Posted by lululu
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by lululu
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by oldtimerocknroll
I feel very badly for my students (college). Aside from the seniors, none of them have ever had a full normal year of college. We are largely back in person, but there are still some restrictions in place, masks, random testing, etc.
It was great to see them back in person this past fall semester. They were clearly so happy to be in a classroom with other students. I would say I usually have pretty good participation levels in my classes, but it was extra stellar in the fall.
IME college kids had it bad too. It wasn't JUST the younger kids who were affected as some might think. Even now many classes are still remote which doesn't give them the college experience either which they are losing out on.
I actually feel really bad for the 16-22 crowd. I feel like all the things you worked towards - high school graduation, college, college graduation, study abroad, etc. was all tainted. That is irreplaceable. College is such an important time as far as gaining independence, figuring out what you want to do with your life, networking.... I don't really know how you recover from having all of that taken away.
Agreed and maybe because that was the age group I was most familiar with (even though I know younger kids too so I am well aware of what they have gone through) but I found it very sad of all they were losing out on. Some more than others, some didn't care of things they lost out on. My youngest was not as interested in some things that were not done or lesser while my oldest would have missed them more. Still these kids don't have a "normal" school setting and now the vaccinated college kids have to have THREE shots just to go to school to get an education. Something they need to get decent jobs in the future. It is all very sad.
Although I believe in education and will encourage my kids to go to college if that’s what they want, u don’t need to have a degree to have decent, and very lucrative jobs.
I agree but for those that want to have the college experience, it's a tough pill to swallow that you will never get a normal college experience in the current environment. And once that opportunity is gone, it's gone. Not the end of the world obviously but I can understand why it would be extremely disappointing.
Oh I’m completely with u on that. I just didn’t agree with what was said...”Something -a degree- they need to get decent jobs in the future”.
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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
I really think the outcome of children is multifactorial as many of you have said but largely it stems from home IMO. I think age is also a major factor.
These are just some observations I have made:
If the parents are on the side of super cautious and have kept their kids sheltered, those children have been socially stunted.
If the news is on in the house 24/7, the children are being exposed to far more information than they are mature enough to handle.
They, too, are being brainwashed much like their parents and are largely effected by this.
I am a far cry from a perfect parent but I can honestly say my kids are not affected by this. I have not let on how scary this virus can be. I have told them the reason we wear masks and that's the rule. They don't question it and they don't complain. I have kept my kids social in any way that I can without being stupid about it. We have yet to miss a birthday party or any other social function. My school district has done a tremendous job about keeping the kids in school. They have re-opened sports and the arts. They do not kowtow at all to parents in either extremis which I highly respect.
2/3 of my kids are young so they fall into that "they don't know any better group". They also fall into the group with the parents screaming they can't learn to read facial expressions, etc. with the masks on. It is so dumb. They wear masks at school but they barely wear them anywhere else so how is it they can't learn to read facial expressions and learn proper articulation at home, at playdates, at sports, etc? School is a big part of their life but it is not all there is.
My oldest is 10 and he is entirely unaffected. He is business as usual.
But how are the adults doing? I have friends who have turned into paranoid, terrified almost dysfunctional humans. And wait until we see what happens with the "Covid babies". The ones I know have been severely socially set-back.
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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
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I really think the outcome of children is multifactorial as many of you have said but largely it stems from home IMO. I think age is also a major factor.
These are just some observations I have made:
If the parents are on the side of super cautious and have kept their kids sheltered, those children have been socially stunted.
If the news is on in the house 24/7, the children are being exposed to far more information than they are mature enough to handle.
They, too, are being brainwashed much like their parents and are largely effected by this.
I am a far cry from a perfect parent but I can honestly say my kids are not affected by this. I have not let on how scary this virus can be. I have told them the reason we wear masks and that's the rule. They don't question it and they don't complain. I have kept my kids social in any way that I can without being stupid about it. We have yet to miss a birthday party or any other social function. My school district has done a tremendous job about keeping the kids in school. They have re-opened sports and the arts. They do not kowtow at all to parents in either extremis which I highly respect.
2/3 of my kids are young so they fall into that "they don't know any better group". They also fall into the group with the parents screaming they can't learn to read facial expressions, etc. with the masks on. It is so dumb. They wear masks at school but they barely wear them anywhere else so how is it they can't learn to read facial expressions and learn proper articulation at home, at playdates, at sports, etc? School is a big part of their life but it is not all there is.
My oldest is 10 and he is entirely unaffected. He is business as usual.
But how are the adults doing? I have friends who have turned into paranoid, terrified almost dysfunctional humans. And wait until we see what happens with the "Covid babies". The ones I know have been severely socially set-back.
"But how are the adults doing? I have friends who have turned into paranoid, terrified almost dysfunctional humans. "
AB.SO.LU.TELY.
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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
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I really think the outcome of children is multifactorial as many of you have said but largely it stems from home IMO. I think age is also a major factor.
These are just some observations I have made:
If the parents are on the side of super cautious and have kept their kids sheltered, those children have been socially stunted.
If the news is on in the house 24/7, the children are being exposed to far more information than they are mature enough to handle.
They, too, are being brainwashed much like their parents and are largely effected by this.
I am a far cry from a perfect parent but I can honestly say my kids are not affected by this. I have not let on how scary this virus can be. I have told them the reason we wear masks and that's the rule. They don't question it and they don't complain. I have kept my kids social in any way that I can without being stupid about it. We have yet to miss a birthday party or any other social function. My school district has done a tremendous job about keeping the kids in school. They have re-opened sports and the arts. They do not kowtow at all to parents in either extremis which I highly respect.
2/3 of my kids are young so they fall into that "they don't know any better group". They also fall into the group with the parents screaming they can't learn to read facial expressions, etc. with the masks on. It is so dumb. They wear masks at school but they barely wear them anywhere else so how is it they can't learn to read facial expressions and learn proper articulation at home, at playdates, at sports, etc? School is a big part of their life but it is not all there is.
My oldest is 10 and he is entirely unaffected. He is business as usual.
But how are the adults doing? I have friends who have turned into paranoid, terrified almost dysfunctional humans. And wait until we see what happens with the "Covid babies". The ones I know have been severely socially set-back.
I 1000% agree with all of this. I am far more worried about the adults than the children.
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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
Posted by Naturalmama
Posted by FirstMate
I really think the outcome of children is multifactorial as many of you have said but largely it stems from home IMO. I think age is also a major factor.
These are just some observations I have made:
If the parents are on the side of super cautious and have kept their kids sheltered, those children have been socially stunted.
If the news is on in the house 24/7, the children are being exposed to far more information than they are mature enough to handle.
They, too, are being brainwashed much like their parents and are largely effected by this.
I am a far cry from a perfect parent but I can honestly say my kids are not affected by this. I have not let on how scary this virus can be. I have told them the reason we wear masks and that's the rule. They don't question it and they don't complain. I have kept my kids social in any way that I can without being stupid about it. We have yet to miss a birthday party or any other social function. My school district has done a tremendous job about keeping the kids in school. They have re-opened sports and the arts. They do not kowtow at all to parents in either extremis which I highly respect.
2/3 of my kids are young so they fall into that "they don't know any better group". They also fall into the group with the parents screaming they can't learn to read facial expressions, etc. with the masks on. It is so dumb. They wear masks at school but they barely wear them anywhere else so how is it they can't learn to read facial expressions and learn proper articulation at home, at playdates, at sports, etc? School is a big part of their life but it is not all there is.
My oldest is 10 and he is entirely unaffected. He is business as usual.
But how are the adults doing? I have friends who have turned into paranoid, terrified almost dysfunctional humans. And wait until we see what happens with the "Covid babies". The ones I know have been severely socially set-back.
I 1000% agree with all of this. I am far more worried about the adults than the children.
Agree. This is the worst mental health I've had in my life. I don't see myself coming back from it either in terms of my anxiety, etc
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MrsA1012
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How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
My DD has been fine because we’ve lived life normally since June 2020. She was due to start k that fall but I’ve homeschooled her and continue to do so so she’s never dealt with all the crazy school related covid restrictions or mandatory masking. I don’t enroll her in extra curriculars where masks are required. I don’t want her to participate in that or think it’s normal. I know many other kids and teens who have been affected to different degrees depending on their circumstances.
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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
Posted by MrsA1012
My DD has been fine because we’ve lived life normally since June 2020. She was due to start k that fall but I’ve homeschooled her and continue to do so so she’s never dealt with all the crazy school related covid restrictions or mandatory masking. I don’t enroll her in extra curriculars where masks are required. I don’t want her to participate in that or think it’s normal. I know many other kids and teens who have been affected to different degrees depending on their circumstances.
This was my daughter last year. I kept her remote last year, but this year wasn't an option. She does not like the masks but basically only has to dal with them when at school. They have a band trip in the Spring that we opted out of because of the Covid protocol that was put in place. Hopefully next year it will be different
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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by FirstMate
"But how are the adults doing? I have friends who have turned into paranoid, terrified almost dysfunctional humans. "
AB.SO.LU.TELY.
I’ve definitely fallen into a hoarding space.
I’m not a crazy hoarder lol but it’s changed how I shop.
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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
Posted by MissJones
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by FirstMate
"But how are the adults doing? I have friends who have turned into paranoid, terrified almost dysfunctional humans. "
AB.SO.LU.TELY.
I’ve definitely fallen into a hoarding space.
I’m not a crazy hoarder lol but it’s changed how I shop.
2020 was the hardest year.
We had just moved into a new house in a new town and had no chance to meet anyone yet before the world shut down.
I also like routines and having time to myself to get things done. Having the kids home 24/7 with nowhere to go and also having to be their teacher for chunks of the day was difficult. It was also frustrating always having the kids with me whether I had a doctor appointment or had to go food shopping. I enjoy the break when they are at school so once school went back to normal in the fall of 2020, I was much better.
Even though life isn't exactly the same for the most part, our home life is normal again. The kids are in school, I have my routines back, we're social, we have traveled, etc etc. Thankfully any stress I had that was associated with COVID went away once things started to return to something resembling normal.
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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by MissJones
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by FirstMate
"But how are the adults doing? I have friends who have turned into paranoid, terrified almost dysfunctional humans. "
AB.SO.LU.TELY.
I’ve definitely fallen into a hoarding space.
I’m not a crazy hoarder lol but it’s changed how I shop.
2020 was the hardest year.
We had just moved into a new house in a new town and had no chance to meet anyone yet before the world shut down.
I also like routines and having time to myself to get things done. Having the kids home 24/7 with nowhere to go and also having to be their teacher for chunks of the day was difficult. It was also frustrating always having the kids with me whether I had a doctor appointment or had to go food shopping. I enjoy the break when they are at school so once school went back to normal in the fall of 2020, I was much better.
Even though life isn't exactly the same for the most part, our home life is normal again. The kids are in school, I have my routines back, we're social, we have traveled, etc etc. Thankfully any stress I had that was associated with COVID went away once things started to return to something resembling normal.
Wow, but just wow. This is actually a huge SLAP in the face of every working mom who has NO "me" time and no breaks in life but MAYBE a lunch break.
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Hofstra26
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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
No, it's not. $hit stirrer.
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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
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No, it's not. $hit stirrer.
You are truly clueless. You get 7 'ME" hour breaks everyday they are in school and you still complain that you couldn't have free time while they were home during the pandemic, for what, 4 months?
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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
Posted by MissJones
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by FirstMate
"But how are the adults doing? I have friends who have turned into paranoid, terrified almost dysfunctional humans. "
AB.SO.LU.TELY.
I’ve definitely fallen into a hoarding space.
I’m not a crazy hoarder lol but it’s changed how I shop.
I agree that I think this whole thing has negatively affected me the most. Not my kids and not my husband. That is not to say that they did not nor have not experienced adverse affects.
Like Hofstra said later in this post - I am never alone and have not been alone since 2019 unless you consider my commute.
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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
Posted by CookiePuss
Posted by MissJones
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by FirstMate
"But how are the adults doing? I have friends who have turned into paranoid, terrified almost dysfunctional humans. "
AB.SO.LU.TELY.
I’ve definitely fallen into a hoarding space.
I’m not a crazy hoarder lol but it’s changed how I shop.
I agree that I think this whole thing has negatively affected me the most. Not my kids and not my husband. That is not to say that they did not nor have not experienced adverse affects.
Like Hofstra said later in this post - I am never alone and have not been alone since 2019 unless you consider my commute.
Your kids don't go to school? Your husband doesn't go to work?
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Hofstra26
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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
Posted by CookiePuss
Posted by MissJones
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by FirstMate
"But how are the adults doing? I have friends who have turned into paranoid, terrified almost dysfunctional humans. "
AB.SO.LU.TELY.
I’ve definitely fallen into a hoarding space.
I’m not a crazy hoarder lol but it’s changed how I shop.
I agree that I think this whole thing has negatively affected me the most. Not my kids and not my husband. That is not to say that they did not nor have not experienced adverse affects.
Like Hofstra said later in this post - I am never alone and have not been alone since 2019 unless you consider my commute.
It's definitely hard when you go from having uninterrupted time to get things done in your day to always having your kids in your face. It wasn't good for either of us, especially when we were in lockdown. Like I said, I enjoy my routines and having everyone home all the time just threw me off. I'm so glad to be past 2020. I'm enjoying the return to normalacy and everyone is doing better having our routines and normal life back.
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Re: How are the kids doing almost 2 years later
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by CookiePuss
Posted by MissJones
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by FirstMate
"But how are the adults doing? I have friends who have turned into paranoid, terrified almost dysfunctional humans. "
AB.SO.LU.TELY.
I’ve definitely fallen into a hoarding space.
I’m not a crazy hoarder lol but it’s changed how I shop.
I agree that I think this whole thing has negatively affected me the most. Not my kids and not my husband. That is not to say that they did not nor have not experienced adverse affects.
Like Hofstra said later in this post - I am never alone and have not been alone since 2019 unless you consider my commute.
It's definitely hard when you go from having uninterrupted time to get things done in your day to always having your kids in your face. It wasn't good for either of us, especially when we were in lockdown. Like I said, I enjoy my routines and having everyone home all the time just threw me off. I'm so glad to be past 2020. I'm enjoying the return to normalacy and everyone is doing better having our routines and normal life back.
What do you do in the summer? Aren't they always there in your FACE then?
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