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GioiaMia
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Re: Illegal Apartment
For those that think it lowers property value, is it better to have a house on your block foreclose bc the owners can't make mortgage payments without the help of a renter?
ETA: I just reread this question and it sounds snarky, I am honestly asking it because I don't know the answer, lol.
Message edited 9/23/2008 8:31:29 AM.
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SerraMaMa
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Re: Illegal Apartment
In my opinion there is nothing wrong with this...My friend is a stay at home mom and uses the rent so that she can be home with her child. You may be ruining someone else's life by being petty and selfish. ( My Opinion)
There is always a nice way to fix things, maybe have a talk with whomever. I think calling the town should be a last resort.
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| Posted 9/23/08 8:34 AM |
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Goobster
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Re: Illegal Apartment
Posted by SerraMaMa
In my opinion there is nothing wrong with this...My friend is a stay at home mom and uses the rent so that she can be home with her child. You may be ruining someone else's life by being petty and selfish. ( My Opinion)
There is always a nice way to fix things, maybe have a talk with whomever. I think calling the town should be a last resort.
Calling the town should be the FIRST resort. This is a legal issue above and beyond the scope of what neighbors could kindly "nicely" discuss among each other. I don't see why anyone would recommend "talking" to the neighbor. As if the neighbor will care what you think. He apparently doesn't care about doing the "RIGHT" thing or he wouldn't be doing the illegal renting (even worse, to various people) in the first place.
Being direct with the neighbor will only alert them that YOU are the one who reported him/her when the town comes knocking (since it will HAVE to come to that b/c even if you did try talking to the neighbor, they would care less about what YOU want, obviously they don't care about the law even) and doing this would only cause larger tensions, there is no doubt about that.
Call the town and don't think twice about it. Various people coming and going is a huge issue that needs to be addressed.
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| Posted 9/23/08 9:06 AM |
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Goobster
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Re: Illegal Apartment
Posted by Tilde
For those that think it lowers property value, is it better to have a house on your block foreclose bc the owners can't make mortgage payments without the help of a renter?
ETA: I just reread this question and it sounds snarky, I am honestly asking it because I don't know the answer, lol.
I would go for the foreclosure, esp over the situation the OP described about various renters coming and going. Eventually someone who COULD afford the home would buy it.
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| Posted 9/23/08 9:14 AM |
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isabelle2137
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Re: Illegal Apartment
Posted by SerraMaMa
In my opinion there is nothing wrong with this...My friend is a stay at home mom and uses the rent so that she can be home with her child. You may be ruining someone else's life by being petty and selfish. ( My Opinion)
There is always a nice way to fix things, maybe have a talk with whomever. I think calling the town should be a last resort.
I think it's pretty selfish to put your self and your desire to stay home with your children above what is right for your community and neighbors who are playing by the rules.
Times are tough and taxes stink, but that doesn't mean it's a valid reason.
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| Posted 9/23/08 9:50 AM |
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EJCLJ01
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Re: Illegal Apartment
Posted by MeeshMosh
Posted by namechange
did you JUST buy a home.. (maybe your tune will change when you get your taxes  j/k)
i know what we pay in taxes & yes, of course i would like it to be cheaper... but by reporting illegal apartments or not, there are always going to be things that i cannot control that go into owning a home that really pisss me off
i just dont think that reporting illegal apartments are going to make that big of a difference... b/c if its not taxes, its something else with a house... plus like i said, i lived i one with DH - there were horrible circumstances why we could only afford to live there & it would have pretty much ruined our lives at that time to be kicked out...so i know how those ppl feel & like i said before, uness there were scketchy things going on, i wouldnt report them
ETS: the illegal apartment i lived in was reported a few years before we moved in... that obviously didnt do ANYTHING b/c we lived there for a year and a half and there are different tenants living there now
I agree, I live in Queens, NY and there are plenty of illegal apts. They get reported and within a few weeks they are renting again. So it seems getting caught only causes a minor hiccup.
One other negative aspect of illegal dwellings I haven't seen anyone mention was the fire hazards. I have heard that it is difficult for firefighters to properly clear a house or fight the fires because there are walls or blocked entrances where there shouldn't be. Maybe more of a problem in Queens, where the basement is normally the illegal APT.
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| Posted 9/24/08 8:10 AM |
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EJCLJ01
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Re: Illegal Apartment
What about this scenario which I often see in Queens.
Someone buys a 2 family house with basement.
They rent the 2 legal apartments and they themselves stay in the basement. Would this now be considered an illegal apt, since no income is taken in, and its the homeowner living there?
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| Posted 9/24/08 8:19 AM |
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MrsERod
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Re: Illegal Apartment
Posted by Goobster
Calling the town should be the FIRST resort. This is a legal issue above and beyond the scope of what neighbors could kindly "nicely" discuss among each other. I don't see why anyone would recommend "talking" to the neighbor. As if the neighbor will care what you think. He apparently doesn't care about doing the "RIGHT" thing or he wouldn't be doing the illegal renting (even worse, to various people) in the first place.
Being direct with the neighbor will only alert them that YOU are the one who reported him/her when the town comes knocking (since it will HAVE to come to that b/c even if you did try talking to the neighbor, they would care less about what YOU want, obviously they don't care about the law even) and doing this would only cause larger tensions, there is no doubt about that.
Call the town and don't think twice about it. Various people coming and going is a huge issue that needs to be addressed.
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| Posted 9/24/08 9:39 AM |
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ave1024
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Re: Illegal Apartment
Posted by EJCLJ01
They rent the 2 legal apartments and they themselves stay in the basement. Would this now be considered an illegal apt, since no income is taken in, and its the homeowner living there?
If there is a stove and bathroom/kitchen in the basement it's probably illegal regardless of who's living or renting there.
So I would guess to say yes. But at least that family is paying taxes on two apartments.
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| Posted 9/24/08 9:55 AM |
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tourist
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Re: Illegal Apartment
Posted by EJCLJ01
What about this scenario which I often see in Queens.
Someone buys a 2 family house with basement.
They rent the 2 legal apartments and they themselves stay in the basement. Would this now be considered an illegal apt, since no income is taken in, and its the homeowner living there?
That was sort of what was going on in the building I lived in. It didn't occur to me at the time, but I'm not sure if it was all legal. The house was owned by a man & his 2 adult sons. The owner & his wife & 1 son lived in the basement.
The other son & his wife & baby loved in the small 1st floor apt & then the 2nd & 3rd floors were each rented out.
The set up seemed legit--the 2nd & 3rd floors were big & defitnely designed to be seperate livign areas. It was rented through a realtor, there were seperate meters, but the basement apt was proabaly illegal, and we didn't have a lease, and payed cash, so taxes may not have been reported correctly.
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| Posted 9/24/08 10:08 AM |
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DmarieK
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Re: Illegal Apartment
I have nothing against illegal apartments...I would rent one out if I had one and would rent one if I needed one.
With that said I am dying to call the town on my neighbors. There was a husband wife and child...the wife and child left for some reason. The husband now rents out the illegal apartment in the garage and all of the bedrooms to a bunch of young dirtbags. We and other neighbors have had to call the cops numerous times. Cars constantly pulling up and leaving...about 15 kids hanging out in the driveway smoking pot...fighting like you wouldn't believe...dogs running into our yard...including a doberman. There was actually a time I literally had to toss my sons infant carrier into the car because it came running at me. Last week we called the cops because there was a brawl with about 30 kids...metal pipes and all. We live on what was a quiet dead end block with alot of small children...there is no need for this to be going on.
I feel we have every right to call and won't feel an ounce of guilt
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4PsInaPod
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Re: Illegal Apartment
you know what annoys me about illegal apartments.....when their tenants constantly park in front of my house and block my vision up the hill & almost cause me to get into accidents while pulling out of my driveway.....& sometimes it's two cars!!!
Good thing I like my neighbors! (they've had 3 tenants in one year...annoying)
I see both sides of this story!
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| Posted 9/25/08 2:18 PM |
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Ambersmom
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Re: Illegal Apartment
Posted by DmarieK
I have nothing against illegal apartments...I would rent one out if I had one and would rent one if I needed one.
With that said I am dying to call the town on my neighbors. There was a husband wife and child...the wife and child left for some reason. The husband now rents out the illegal apartment in the garage and all of the bedrooms to a bunch of young dirtbags. We and other neighbors have had to call the cops numerous times. Cars constantly pulling up and leaving...about 15 kids hanging out in the driveway smoking pot...fighting like you wouldn't believe...dogs running into our yard...including a doberman. There was actually a time I literally had to toss my sons infant carrier into the car because it came running at me. Last week we called the cops because there was a brawl with about 30 kids...metal pipes and all. We live on what was a quiet dead end block with alot of small children...there is no need for this to be going on.
I feel we have every right to call and won't feel an ounce of guilt
Ooohhh, but you are invading the homeowners rights to have these derilicts live in their home. SHAME ON YOU!!
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Hi-Fi55
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Re: Illegal Apartment
As long as the tenant is not causing a nuisance of any type you may do what you please with your home. When NY comes up with a better system for AFFORDABLE housing then maybe I will take a different stance on illegal apts.
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MrsRivera
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Re: Illegal Apartment
Posted by Hi-Fi55
As long as the tenant is not causing a nuisance of any type you may do what you please with your home. When NY comes up with a better system for AFFORDABLE housing then maybe I will take a different stance on illegal apts.
THANK YOU!!!!!!!
The ONLY reason we were able to stay on LI as long as we did was because of the illegal apartment we were renting. We were there for 2 years. Yes, we parked on the street.
It was the ONLY place we could afford as a newlywed couple, and I thank God every day that people were a little nicer and never reported us. They definitely could have. But they didn't.
That said--now that I'm a homeowner, if I knew my neighbor had an illegal apartment, I would NOT report them unless, as one of the other posters said, it was clear that some sort of dangerous activity were taking place there.
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| Posted 9/25/08 4:07 PM |
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MrsRJP
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Re: Illegal Apartment
Posted by june262004
Posted by ave1024
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Well like I said in my posts Levittown doesn't allow apartments unless it's a mother/daughter.
How does a mother/daughter compare to a regular apartment?
I hear M/D tossed around on MLS but never bothered to figure out what it was. I just figured it was some sort of legal apartment.
It means just that. Its a legal apt for a family to live together. Like a mother main floor daughter in apartment.
Or son in apt. My MIL lives in Levittown and she was going to make a M/D out of her house since we could not afford LI house prices but we moved to FL 3 years ago instead. She was told that they were cracking down on illegal apts in the Town of Hempstead so she was told if she was going through with it to make sure she had all paperwork if she was going to do it or she would be fined per day.
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Sneezy
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Re: Illegal Apartment
Is renting an illegal apartment really any different than being a prostitute?
*Both are illegal.
*Both ways you are "renting" out something you own.
*In both ways it can be viewed as though you are helping someone who can't make it on their own.
*Both things lower the property values of the neighborhoods they operate in.
*If I am renting out MY body, it isn't your business.
*You have no right to decide who I rent my body to and if you don't like the transient element it brings, tough.
*Living here IS expensive, this brings in a little extra money, tax-free, and it helps me make ends meet.
Illegal is illegal. Will the people who have illegal apartments kindly post their addresses so I can come and work your street? I am looking for a new corner.
Yep, go ahead, start flaming me for this post. I can take it.
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CroatianBride
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Re: Illegal Apartment
Posted by Sneezy
Is renting an illegal apartment really any different than being a prostitute?
*Both are illegal.
*Both ways you are "renting" out something you own.
*In both ways it can be viewed as though you are helping someone who can't make it on their own.
*Both things lower the property values of the neighborhoods they operate in.
*If I am renting out MY body, it isn't your business.
*You have no right to decide who I rent my body to and if you don't like the transient element it brings, tough.
*Living here IS expensive, this brings in a little extra money, tax-free, and it helps me make ends meet.
Illegal is illegal. Will the people who have illegal apartments kindly post their addresses so I can come and work your street? I am looking for a new corner.
Yep, go ahead, start flaming me for this post. I can take it.
thats great!
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| Posted 9/26/08 2:38 PM |
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Teri
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Re: Illegal Apartment
I cannot believe this thread is still alive but I had to say, this cracks me up!!
Posted by Sneezy
Is renting an illegal apartment really any different than being a prostitute?
*Both are illegal.
*Both ways you are "renting" out something you own.
*In both ways it can be viewed as though you are helping someone who can't make it on their own.
*Both things lower the property values of the neighborhoods they operate in.
*If I am renting out MY body, it isn't your business.
*You have no right to decide who I rent my body to and if you don't like the transient element it brings, tough.
*Living here IS expensive, this brings in a little extra money, tax-free, and it helps me make ends meet.
Illegal is illegal. Will the people who have illegal apartments kindly post their addresses so I can come and work your street? I am looking for a new corner.
Yep, go ahead, start flaming me for this post. I can take it.
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| Posted 9/26/08 2:48 PM |
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CaseyGirl
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Re: Illegal Apartment
I think people should mind their own business. Plain and simple.
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Re: Illegal Apartment
Posted by june262004
Posted by ave1024
Posted by melijane
I was under the impresson LI taxes were high due to school districts.
ZING!
Do tenants in illegal apartments send their kids to the local school and utilize the school resources? Yup.
Do they pay their share of school taxes for their children that are utilizing the school system? Nope.
Is the Landlord paying the taxes for his rental? Nope.
Do you see the problem here?
Ya I understand that.... but at the same time I know 2 families on my block that have family who live in not so nice areas and use the address here to send the kids to school. That annoys me to
I think that is illegal too. If the school district found out they would not allow that. That is why some districts require tons of paperwork when you enroll your child.
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| Posted 9/26/08 8:32 PM |
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SweetestOfPeas
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Re: Illegal Apartment
Posted by Sneezy
Is renting an illegal apartment really any different than being a prostitute?
*Both are illegal.
*Both ways you are "renting" out something you own.
*In both ways it can be viewed as though you are helping someone who can't make it on their own.
*Both things lower the property values of the neighborhoods they operate in.
*If I am renting out MY body, it isn't your business.
*You have no right to decide who I rent my body to and if you don't like the transient element it brings, tough.
*Living here IS expensive, this brings in a little extra money, tax-free, and it helps me make ends meet.
Illegal is illegal. Will the people who have illegal apartments kindly post their addresses so I can come and work your street? I am looking for a new corner.
Yep, go ahead, start flaming me for this post. I can take it.
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MissJones
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Re: Illegal Apartment
For everyone who is so against them...you are blessed. May you and your loved ones never have to fall so low that you have to call one home. But I'm sure many of these apartments have helped many people get back on their feet again.
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| Posted 9/26/08 10:04 PM |
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littlejoy06
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Re: Illegal Apartment
I have NO problem with illegal renters BUT, I had to report my neighbor.
This is why...
They parked their rusty disgusting van in front of my house EVERY DAY for 2 years and it leaked oil everywhere (it wasn't even registered). I would have to fight to park in front of my house and if we backed up so they couldn't park there, they would park in front of me. THEY HAVE A DOUBLE CAR DRIVEWAY!!!
They had disgusting crap in their backyard and every time I had a bbq, the guy would work on his snow blower or dirt bike and blow all of the smoke in my backyard. It was the summer, do you really think he needed to do that in June? 
I'm sorry, I rented too and I tried to be as invisible as possible. If you don't respect me (the one who is paying all of the taxes) then you will be reported!!!
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| Posted 9/26/08 10:26 PM |
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johnsae
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Re: Illegal Apartment
Posted by CaseyGirl
I think people should mind their own business. Plain and simple.
Seriously.
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